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bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 12:36 AM
I have had my 03 black marauder almost a year now. ( 50k) I love everything about it. I am a college student and money is tight but I have been saving and just did my first small mod. I did the JLT intake. I love it sounds awesome when you get on it. I think after doing it I caught the bug everyone talks about. Wanting to more and more.! :) I just ordered the standard tune from Mr. Reinhart the Dynotech Driveshaft and the Pro Guard rear skid plate (http://reinhartautomotive.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=12345&Product_Code=MM-Proguard&Category_Code=9) just to be safe. I cant wait to get all my goodies in the mail and see how much the tune will make a difference.
O by the way :bows: Mr. Reinhart is awesome I talked to him on the phone and he knows everything there is to no about the Marauder. Great guy…!

What do you guys think I should do next..???

gmtech
03-19-2008, 05:11 AM
the tune will really wake the car up and you will be pleased but the gears seem to be the next most standard mod...mine wiil be going in this spring sometime

fastblackmerc
03-19-2008, 05:56 AM
Do the 4.10's next

Then the swaybars and rear control arms.

ckadiddle
03-19-2008, 06:16 AM
You will love the change in driveability the tune makes.

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 08:24 AM
I was thinking about either doing the 4.10’S first or the KOOKS headers CAT back system first. I live right next to KOOKS. They said the Factory Tailpipe:Headers,X Pipe with Cats and Mufflers with the install would be $2200. What do you think??

http://reinhartautomotive.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Kooks%20Exhaust.jpg

Paul T. Casey
03-19-2008, 09:18 AM
Do the Kooks!!

offroadkarter
03-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Kooks, minus there cats. Plenty of people here have had problems with kooks cats not lasting as long as they should.

Blk Mamba
03-19-2008, 03:25 PM
Need to think about a brake up grade, fast, and no stop is No Good!

jdando
03-19-2008, 03:50 PM
S/c Ftw :)

Blackened300a
03-19-2008, 04:25 PM
I was thinking about either doing the 4.10’S first or the KOOKS headers CAT back system first. I live right next to KOOKS. They said the Factory Tailpipe:Headers,X Pipe with Cats and Mufflers with the install would be $2200. What do you think??

Thats the same price they quoted me as well and Im not too far from them. I want the headers but thats quite costly considering how much less it is for any other car.

Raudermaster
03-19-2008, 04:43 PM
Thats the same price they quoted me as well and Im not too far from them. I want the headers but thats quite costly considering how much less it is for any other car.

Remember we drive MM's, parts are specific!

KillJoy
03-19-2008, 04:46 PM
Get a Poor Man's Supercharger (PMS) next.

:D

That would be 4.10's!!!

:rofl:

Sorry... I kill me!

But seriously.... get gears. Then looking into Rear Control Arms. Zacks are good, as are the PHP and Metcos.

After those, think of the direction you want the car to go in, Boost, Nitrous or Naturally Aspirated.

:up:

KillJoy

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 07:29 PM
It seems that everyone loves doing 4.10s and its not that expensive to do compared to the headers. I saw the gears for $260.00 on Reinhart. My mechanic down the road said he would install them for 200.00. Is that a reasonable price ?

Mr. Reinhart said he would send me an email to download into the tuner for the 4.10s. So the car will recognize them. ( Speedometer reading and all )

Does this all sound right to you guys??

THANKS for the Advice,, this forum is the best thing that ever happened to me and my baby!! :)

KillJoy
03-19-2008, 07:33 PM
$200 Install = Good Price!!!!

:up:

A Tune + 4.10's = HOW the MM SHOULD HAVE been shipped from the Factory!!!

:beer:

KillJoy

J D
03-19-2008, 09:15 PM
I have had my 03 black marauder almost a year now. ( 50k) I love everything about it. I am a college student and money is tight but I have been saving and just did my first small mod. I did the JLT intake. I love it sounds awesome when you get on it. I think after doing it I caught the bug everyone talks about. Wanting to more and more.! :) I just ordered the standard tune from Mr. Reinhart the Dynotech Driveshaft and the Pro Guard rear skid plate (http://reinhartautomotive.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=12345&Product_Code=MM-Proguard&Category_Code=9) just to be safe. I cant wait to get all my goodies in the mail and see how much the tune will make a difference.
O by the way :bows: Mr. Reinhart is awesome I talked to him on the phone and he knows everything there is to no about the Marauder. Great guy…!

What do you guys think I should do next..???


Enjoy it man, and take pictures, as a college student with low funds I feel ya. I bolted on my JLT and the bug itches me when ever I get a moment to think.


Need to think about a brake up grade, fast, and no stop is No Good!

Indeed I heard and seen willwoods and they look and must feel awesome.


S/c Ftw :)
Like me, I doubt that he's got the 5K bankroll to fund such a project.


Thats the same price they quoted me as well and Im not too far from them. I want the headers but thats quite costly considering how much less it is for any other car.

Wow, they're in NY! I never knew! Its going on my list for stuff to acquire since they're relatively close and can do the welding work, though it'll take me a while to gather the cash to put it on.

And as for the next mod, a tune or 4.10s are popular, but as I wanna get back on the engine, I'm going for UDs and a water pump.

sailsmen
03-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Keep your OEM mufflers.

Kooks is charging full list.

Keep an eye out for a group buy where you can save some.

DOOM
03-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Do whatever you like. You cant go wrong when it comes to modding the mm.

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 09:44 PM
Nope don’t have (5k) I have just enough for the 4.10s and almost there for the headers a few more months.,,
Hopefully by the middle of the summer ill have enough for them.
I would love to have the exhaust for the car shows..! :)

Yea JD there in Bay Shore. >>
200 Candlewood road Bay Shore, NY 11706

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 10:04 PM
SOME PICS

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/hppeople123/DSC02323.jpg?t=1205989451

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/hppeople123/DSC02321.jpg?t=1205989562

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 10:12 PM
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/hppeople123/l_ebb81b7002d5c2f4ff0ddb91ebad 82-1.jpg?t=1205989937

freakstatus
03-19-2008, 10:15 PM
Very, very nice. Looks like mine shined up.:D

dankwun
03-19-2008, 10:42 PM
damnnn.. i'm jealous.. wish i didnt jump on the first mm i saw. i ended up gettin a mm with a rebuilt title and the paint is really startin to piss me off. also the bondo is crackin in spot cause of the 13.5 JL W7 and 1000 to one amp that rattles the car... anyways yea all i got is a k&n intake, i am going for the 4.10's and posi traction and a tune. not sure what tune i wanna get though. what would you guys suggest?

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 11:01 PM
I wanted a Marauder so bad I drove from Long Island to Massachusetts
to look at one. I jumped on mine right away. It was the second one I looked at.

Your Pic of your car looks AWSOME I love the headlights, they look bad ass.! Where did you get them??

I just got my TUNE in the mail from Reinhart. https://www.reinhartautomotive.com/index.htm (https://www.reinhartautomotive.com/index.htm).

I am tuning it tomorrow morning and putting in the Dynotech Driveshaft. Ill let you no how the tune is once its in.

J D
03-19-2008, 11:15 PM
Nope don’t have (5k) I have just enough for the 4.10s and almost there for the headers a few more months.,,
Hopefully by the middle of the summer ill have enough for them.
I would love to have the exhaust for the car shows..! :)

Yea JD there in Bay Shore. >>
200 Candlewood road Bay Shore, NY 11706

Only 50 driving miles and an hour away!
speaking of car shows, I hope ya can come to the big Marauder meet out in Carlise PA in June, the more NY license plates the better!


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/hppeople123/l_ebb81b7002d5c2f4ff0ddb91ebad 82-1.jpg?t=1205989937

heh, the caption here should read, "puttin' the squeeze on Pontiac"


damnnn.. I'm jealous.. wish i didn't jump on the first mm i saw. i ended up getting a mm with a rebuilt title and the paint is really starting to piss me off. also the bondo is cracking in spot cause of the 13.5 JL W7 and 1000 to one amp that rattles the car... anyways yea all i got is a k&n intake, i am going for the 4.10's and posi traction and a tune. not sure what tune i wanna get though. what would you guys suggest?

You can't go wrong with either, both Lidio and Reinhart. They are great tuners for MM, though I've been leaning towards going with Lidio, and hey, since Billy's already got Reinhart and is stock save for the JLT like me, maybe we can finally have it out on what tune goes best.


I wanted a Marauder so bad I drove from Long Island to Masochists to look at one. I jumped on mine right away. It was the second one I looked at.

Your Pic of your car looks AWSOME I love the headlights, they look bad ass.! Where did you get them??

I just got my TUNE in the mail from Reinhart. https://www.reinhartautomotive.com/index.htm (https://www.reinhartautomotive.com/index.htm).

I am tuning it tomorrow morning and putting in the Dynotech Driveshaft. Ill let you no how the tune is once its in.

I take it you mean Massachusetts, but hey, I went all the way to North East Penn. to get mine, after the couple MM's I saw in NYC were beat to hell, and the one MM that I had gone a good ways up the Hudson to check out and buy was sold out under me, I jumped on my 03 and never looked back, seems I lucked out when compared to dankwun.

Also you get any driveshaft loops to go with that new shiny drive shaft of yours?

mmssdriver
03-19-2008, 11:27 PM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c72/Demonkid180/DSCN5676.jpg

mmmmmm just stirring the pot a little.. :burnout:

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 11:30 PM
I got the JLT ..
It was way up Massachusetts it took 3 and half hours to get there that was with taking the Orient Point ferry .
I didn’t get any driveshaft loops. Should I have got them ???

How many miles do you have JD? You got any pics?

I definitely want to go.!! Remind me when it gets closer I have a few locals with marauders that will probably go.. We can get a group together to drive to the meet in June…

bigbillybbs
03-19-2008, 11:39 PM
WOW posting that Impala Pic. might not of been a good idea.. I think you did a little more than stir the pot.. This should get interesting!
HAHAHAHA


http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p116/hppeople123/l_ebc20cd419ffa96c9af02af42d32 8bf6.jpg

J D
03-20-2008, 12:08 AM
I got the JLT ..
It was way up Massachusetts it took 3 and half hours to get there that was with taking the Orient Point ferry .
I didn’t get any driveshaft loops. Should I have got them ???

How many miles do you have JD? You got any pics?

I definitely want to go.!! Remind me when it gets closer I have a few locals with marauders that will probably go.. We can get a group together to drive to the meet in June…

Got plenty of pics in my gallery in the photo section (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/browseimages.php?c=3&userid=8203) and hey see if you can find any of the factory rubber bands still on the engine, I found two and heard that there may be three. And bought 'er with 28,773 on the clock, and when I changed the oil sat, it had 29,777.

Oh, and I guess you may have me on distance, 133 miles and 2 and half of driving for me. But at least we both had to traverse the curvature of the earth to get to our MMs. And I've never seen some many state police with radar in my life on my way back and forth.

And not sure if they are necessary but I remember hearing they were good for stabilizing the huge chunk of metal churning under the floor panels when at high speeds.

And yeah the more the merrier at the All Ford Nationals (June 4th - 6th). I thought I'd have only have Blackened from queens to convoy with. Make sure when you register, you register with "mercurymarauder.net" as the group. We have a tent this year. And drop a line in the registration thread here too. Don't know where they put it though, I remember it being moved around, and it might be in the upcoming events forum.

J D
03-20-2008, 12:13 AM
mmmmmm just stirring the pot a little.. :burnout:

heh, I like and respect the mid 90s impala SS, and had it been in my time I might be driving IT instead of the MM, as I like the similar lines, stance, power and rarity. But I think you might be out gunned in here buddy, especially the Imp-stomping members if they see that.

mmssdriver
03-20-2008, 08:41 AM
haha im sure, and believe me I love the marauders, but I also love to see the reactions of the imp-stompers, the rivalry between the cars is amusing

and its hard to stomp things like this..

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c72/Demonkid180/2e5a99f14d.jpg


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c72/Demonkid180/263923_95_full.jpg

J D
03-20-2008, 08:49 AM
heh, now That's a built motor!

And nice launch, that thing must really slam ya into the back of the seat.

PhastPhil
03-20-2008, 12:54 PM
Wow, we've got a bunch of young New York members here. How come you guys never came out to any of the local meets we've had? Haven't you discovered the Northeast section of this site ?
Will you guys be hitting the local cruise spots this summer?

DOOM
03-20-2008, 01:14 PM
sorry dude thats just ugly :puke: :flamer: :argue:

bigbillybbs
03-20-2008, 02:24 PM
Wow, we've got a bunch of young New York members here. How come you guys never came out to any of the local meets we've had? Haven't you discovered the Northeast section of this site ?
Will you guys be hitting the local cruise spots this summer?


Yea MOST definitely… Ill see you guys there

bigbillybbs
03-20-2008, 02:33 PM
So today I just finished installing the new drive shaft and the tune from Reinhart. ( x CAL 3 ) With the tune I didn’t see a crazy amount of power out of it but the shifts were MUCH, much FERMER. I would say a LIL faster. The revs are a lot higher. He tuned it for the JLT intake. I think ill see more power gains when I get the KOOKS installed. But overall I like the way the tune is set up.. :)

4.10s I am doing when i get back from vacation the end of next week.

Johns_goat
03-20-2008, 03:32 PM
Wow, we've got a bunch of young New York members here. How come you guys never came out to any of the local meets we've had? Haven't you discovered the Northeast section of this site ?
Will you guys be hitting the local cruise spots this summer?You guys usually have meets on weekend days which is usually a must work for me. Retail sucks!

bigbillybbs
03-21-2008, 11:30 AM
The harder you work the more you can put into the Marauder. lol

Blackened300a
03-21-2008, 01:31 PM
The harder you work the more you can put into the Marauder. lol

Thats why I work 11 hour days. I want the headers but the cost is a bit out of reach at this moment. I have too many events coming up this year for me to swing it.
Looking forward to Carlisle!

bigbillybbs
03-21-2008, 02:01 PM
I would never be able to afford the KOOKS headers but this year I got a good tax return so the state and federal government are giving me my money back to buy the KOOKS.. LOL :)

thespanishtaco
03-22-2008, 08:32 PM
How badly do the 4:10's kill your guys' mileage? Almost all of you recommend it, but is it really practical for a daily driver?

Blackened300a
03-23-2008, 09:00 AM
How badly do the 4:10's kill your guys' mileage? Almost all of you recommend it, but is it really practical for a daily driver?

My marauder was a daily driver with 4.10s and a convertor and I didnt notice much of a difference in mileage. Im figuring that you may loose 3mpg with those mods.
I didnt buy this car for gas economy.