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BruteForce
03-22-2008, 09:40 AM
Video runs about 45 minutes. Not being a financial guru, I'd like to get others thoughts on this.

Money As Debt (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279)

duhtroll
03-22-2008, 10:40 AM
47 minutes?!?

Holy asscrackers, man! I have stuff to shop for!

;)

shodude
03-22-2008, 10:43 AM
thats about right. but i'm not liking the socialistic ideas at the end.. it only take the powers from the banks and gives it to the government. the banks can be destroyed if needed; people sent to jail,, ect... but the government can not be removed without total population upheaval.

SILVERSURFER03
03-22-2008, 10:44 AM
asscrakers ??????? hahaha thats funny

Blk Mamba
03-22-2008, 12:17 PM
thats about right. but i'm not liking the socialistic ideas at the end.. it only take the powers from the banks and gives it to the government. the banks can be destroyed if needed; people sent to jail,, ect... but the government can not be removed without total population upheaval.

I doubt that there was total population upheaval in the 1770's, but yes there was a majority that saw a different direction. After that the direction changed, and it is no longer a government by the people, of the people, nor for the people, which has become more evident in the last few years. Maybe it is now the time to take our government back. No thats not treason, I fought for my right to free speech, and I use it. It is only after I start to plan an overthrow that it becomes treason.

Dr Caleb
03-22-2008, 12:30 PM
It is only after I start to plan an overthrow that it becomes treason.

It's only if you lose it becomes treason. If you win, it's 'revolution'.

The Boston tea party was about taxation without representation. To the King of England, it was treason. 'Freedom and Justice for all' was a concept that could get you hung by the neck (without a trial) in the village square back in the day, should you speak it aloud in the wrong company.

People have forgotten that.

Blk Mamba
03-22-2008, 01:23 PM
It's only if you lose it becomes treason. If you win, it's 'revolution'.

The Boston tea party was about taxation without representation. To the King of England, it was treason. 'Freedom and Justice for all' was a concept that could get you hung by the neck (without a trial) in the village square back in the day, should you speak it aloud in the wrong company.

People have forgotten that.

I appreciate what you say and feel that you and I share a viewpoint. I will only say that I feel we are living in a time of taxation without proper representation Now, and would like to see that changed in my lifetime, for my grandchildren.

Dr Caleb
03-24-2008, 12:46 PM
I appreciate what you say and feel that you and I share a viewpoint. I will only say that I feel we are living in a time of taxation without proper representation Now, and would like to see that changed in my lifetime, for my grandchildren.

Indeed we do. I am reminded of a quote - "My country, right or wrong.." but they always forget the last part - "if right to be commended, if wrong to be corrected."

Here's some food for thought (pun intended):

"The average brain is naturally lazy and tends to take the line of least resistance. The mental world of the ordinary man consists of beliefs which he has accepted without questioning and to which he is firmly attached; he is instinctively hostile to anything which would upset the established order of this familiar world. A new idea, inconsistent with some of the beliefs which he holds, means the necessity of rearranging his mind; and this process is laborious, requiring a painful expenditure of brain-energy. To him and his fellows, who form the vast majority, new ideas, and opinions which cast doubt on established beliefs and institutions, seem evil because they are disagreeable."

http://www.criticalthinking.org/articles/history_freedom_of_thought.cfm

BruteForce
03-24-2008, 01:08 PM
"The average brain is naturally lazy and tends to take the line of least resistance..."
Now that's just crazy talk. :P

Blk Mamba
03-24-2008, 03:21 PM
Indeed we do. I am reminded of a quote - "My country, right or wrong.." but they always forget the last part - "if right to be commended, if wrong to be corrected."

Here's some food for thought (pun intended):

"The average brain is naturally lazy and tends to take the line of least resistance. The mental world of the ordinary man consists of beliefs which he has accepted without questioning and to which he is firmly attached; he is instinctively hostile to anything which would upset the established order of this familiar world. A new idea, inconsistent with some of the beliefs which he holds, means the necessity of rearranging his mind; and this process is laborious, requiring a painful expenditure of brain-energy. To him and his fellows, who form the vast majority, new ideas, and opinions which cast doubt on established beliefs and institutions, seem evil because they are disagreeable."

http://www.criticalthinking.org/articles/history_freedom_of_thought.cfm


Aint that the truth.