View Full Version : Cleaned my air filter and maf (more trouble now)
MarauderMark
03-23-2008, 01:21 PM
yes i was having problems with the car stalling and a light sometimes and when backing up so i decided to clean the air cone (K&n) filter with the k&n filter cleaning kit and CRC maf cleaner. while doing this procedure i found when i pulled the plug apart from the maf to get it out one of the connections was green (corrosion) the one marked "E" so i cleaned the best i could put everythin back and started the car 1st 2 minutes it ran nice and smooth and then the idle goes up and down and shuts off. so i had to start it and hold the gas pedal to keep it from stallingfor a few seconds then it was ok after 2 minutes of running it did it again . so i decided to take it on the highway maybe dry it out or something (runs great now) exit the highway to light and it stalls . made it home took this video it and now it won't stop stalling ...Please tell me what did i do?
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Local Boy
03-23-2008, 01:49 PM
Check your IAC...It might be stuck closed...
ALOHA
Black_Noise
03-23-2008, 02:10 PM
ckean the corrosion out with some electric connections cleaner (sorry forgot the brand, its in a spray bottle) and a small wire brush or screwdriver.
if you are sure that is clean do like localboy said.
do you have a check engine light on?
ImpalaSlayer
03-23-2008, 02:39 PM
the vid says no longer available
Black_Noise
03-23-2008, 02:52 PM
i would say that you have blown the cobs out.(from the look of the video). and i dont think that is your problem.
MarauderMark
03-23-2008, 02:55 PM
Check your IAC...It might be stuck closed...
ALOHA
Is this this little thing inside the maf?
ckean the corrosion out with some electric connections cleaner (sorry forgot the brand, its in a spray bottle) and a small wire brush or screwdriver.
if you are sure that is clean do like localboy said.
do you have a check engine light on?
i couldn't really get anything in there but one of those poity screwdrivers and i sprayed with the maf cleaner to.. No check engine light.
the vid says no longer available
Fixed i don't know why it did that?
Thank you for your replies fellas:up:
ImpalaSlayer
03-23-2008, 02:58 PM
well i have no clue whats wrong by the vid but you sure did make me want a SC even more now
Black_Noise
03-23-2008, 03:01 PM
the IAC valve should be right by the throttle bodie, it goes in and out to restrick air flow (i think im right on the function)
Local Boy
03-23-2008, 03:22 PM
The IAC is separate from the Maf...
It is located just below the TPS...on the throttle body...Take it off and spray the inside of it, with the proper cleaner...
IAC...controls the idle function...
ALOHA
MarauderMark
03-23-2008, 04:23 PM
the car seems to run alot better under wot but without gas and brake at idle it will shut off.
Also the proper cleaner would be crc maf cleaner too?
offroadkarter
03-23-2008, 04:29 PM
That video is awesome!
Good luck on solving your problem, ive got no help towards that :(
Local Boy
03-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Sorry, my friend...didn't mean to be vague...
Yes, I used the MAF cleaner for the IAC as well..
BTW: What color was the wire, going to the corroded connector?
Gray with brown strip? Brown?
ALOHA
The stalling is correctly remedied by adjusting the IAC transfer function in the tune.
Did you plug the MAF back in? (Had to ask)
If you have a low mounted MAF, its hard to get at
MarauderMark
03-23-2008, 05:42 PM
Sorry, my friend...didn't mean to be vague...
Yes, I used the MAF cleaner for the IAC as well..
BTW: What color was the wire, going to the corroded connector?
Gray with brown strip? Brown?
ALOHA
I didn't see the color but they use letters from a to f and the one on mine was "E".but i won't have any time during the week to get under the car but will most certaily be under it saturday or sunday and will find out. Thanks for all replies..
Is this this little thing inside the maf?
i couldn't really get anything in there but one of those poity screwdrivers and i sprayed with the maf cleaner to.. No check engine light.
If I understand you correctly you used a tool on the inside of the MAF?
In there is a hair fine wire that may now be broken and causing your problem. Also the corroded and broken connection may no longer be conductive to small signals even though you cleaned it and reconnected the wire.
You may need a new MAF, stay open to that possibility. Cost = 200.00 +/-.
Seneca
03-23-2008, 06:11 PM
what a sweet burn, didnt even have to power brake. lol.. Nice MARK! Hey if you need a hand with anything Gimmie a holler. Seneca
sailsmen
03-23-2008, 07:20 PM
My best advice to you is to have professionals and only professionals do all the work on your car including cleaning the engine or related components.;)
Spectragod
03-23-2008, 07:27 PM
ckean the corrosion out with some electric connections cleaner (sorry forgot the brand, its in a spray bottle)
Deoxit is the name, MCM electronics sells it.
SG
Black_Noise
03-23-2008, 08:05 PM
i might not have read everything right, but if you were cleaning the MAF sensor with anything but some spray, then you probably did screw it up, they are very very touchy!!
MarauderMark
03-24-2008, 04:46 AM
The stalling is correctly remedied by adjusting the IAC transfer function in the tune.
Did you plug the MAF back in? (Had to ask)
If you have a low mounted MAF, its hard to get at
I have excal 2 but the only thing i know how to do with it is read and delete codes.(afraid i may mess something up) .
Yes i did plug it back in and when i started it up the 1st time it started and ran great(thought i did something good).
Its under the pass side front behind the fog light..
Was hoping you wouldv'e chimed in:up:
If I understand you correctly you used a tool on the inside of the MAF?
In there is a hair fine wire that may now be broken and causing your problem. Also the corroded and broken connection may no longer be conductive to small signals even though you cleaned it and reconnected the wire.
You may need a new MAF, stay open to that possibility. Cost = 200.00 +/-.
Not inside the MAF only inside the connecter where it was green .
what a sweet burn, didnt even have to power brake. lol.. Nice MARK! Hey if you need a hand with anything Gimmie a holler. Seneca
Thanks Buddy other than the stalling the car runs great:dunno:
My best advice to you is to have professionals and only professionals do all the work on your car including cleaning the engine or related components.;)
I haven't cleaned under the hood in a long time (looks like poo under there). I think it from going through the car wash.
Deoxit is the name, MCM electronics sells it.
SG
Thank you Sir will check into it..:up:
Thank you everyone:up:
If your connector is green, that is most likely the problem.
Pull it off and clean it real good with an old toothbrush and a pick to get to the connections.
Then use silicone dielectric during the reinstall.
ctrlraven
03-24-2008, 07:01 AM
Awesome video Make! Hope you figure out the problem soon. I clean my filter and MAF every 6 months. I use CRC Electronics Cleaner, same thing as the MAF Cleaner but like a buck cheaper, only problem I have had was one time I forgot to plug it back in like a dummy but didn't throw on CEL codes or anything.
MarauderMark
03-24-2008, 02:57 PM
If your connector is green, that is most likely the problem.
Pull it off and clean it real good with an old toothbrush and a pick to get to the connections.
Then use silicone dielectric during the reinstall.
Whata ya think about using one of those little brass brushes or is that to harsh?
Also do you think it may have gone bad?
Better yet i'll get a pic of it:up:
Awesome video Make! Hope you figure out the problem soon. I clean my filter and MAF every 6 months. I use CRC Electronics Cleaner, same thing as the MAF Cleaner but like a buck cheaper, only problem I have had was one time I forgot to plug it back in like a dummy but didn't throw on CEL codes or anything.
Neither the air filter nor the maf had been cleaned since i had it.
Glad my son bought a video camara with sound that can upload.
Dennis Reinhart
03-25-2008, 04:23 PM
[quote=MarauderMark;597500]yes i was having problems with the car stalling and a light sometimes and when backing up so i decided to clean the air cone (K&n) filter with the k&n filter cleaning kit and CRC maf cleaner. while doing this procedure i found when i pulled the plug apart from the maf to get it out one of the connections was green (corrosion) the one marked "E" so i cleaned the best i could put everythin back and started the car 1st 2 minutes it ran nice and smooth and then the idle goes up and down and shuts off. so i had to start it and hold the gas pedal to keep it from stallingfor a few seconds then it was ok after 2 minutes of running it did it again . so i decided to take it on the highway maybe dry it out or something (runs great now) exit the highway to light and it stalls . made it home took this video it and now it won't stop stalling ...Please tell me what did i do?
I would look for a air leak on one of the pipes, it could be a bad bypass, or yes it could be a bad maf, you can data log maf voltage and load and maf counts to determine if the maf is acting right.
sailsmen
03-25-2008, 05:06 PM
Looked at the video. Man that is an awesome display of power.
What RWHP did you Dyno 550?
Smoking the tires from a roll.:D
MarauderMark
03-25-2008, 07:26 PM
I would look for a air leak on one of the pipes, it could be a bad bypass, or yes it could be a bad maf, you can data log maf voltage and load and maf counts to determine if the maf is acting right.
Thank you Dennis.I know i don't have any air leaks also
I don't have anyone around here to show how to data log.
i will try to remedy this if not i will call as soon as i can for a MAF.
Looked at the video. Man that is an awesome display of power.
What RWHP did you Dyno 550?
Smoking the tires from a roll.:D
Yeah mine get hard too. :D
you can hear right at the begining of the video the car was trying to stall and i had to gas and brake it to keep it running.:mad:
Dennis Reinhart
03-27-2008, 08:57 AM
Call me Mark
RocsMerc
03-27-2008, 09:43 AM
Did you try disconnecting the battery for a while and reconnecting it. Maybe it's reading differently now that it's been cleaned. My friend had a similar problem with his 02 mustang and this fixed it.
MarauderMark
03-27-2008, 11:09 AM
Call me Mark
Thank you obbi won :nworthy:
Did you try disconnecting the battery for a while and reconnecting it. Maybe it's reading differently now that it's been cleaned. My friend had a similar problem with his 02 mustang and this fixed it.
I just found out its the connections and the Dr gave me a prescription to fix er.:up:
Thank you for your reply:up:
Dennis Reinhart
03-28-2008, 08:12 AM
Thank you obbi won :nworthy:
I just found out its the connections and the Dr gave me a prescription to fix er.:up:
Thank you for your reply:up:
No problem, will convert to a blow through when you come up, the water to air kit has a long maf extention wire, and the terminals became corroded, they need to be cleaned and then apply dielectric grease to prevent it from coming back.:beer:
Marauder386
03-28-2008, 08:26 AM
No problem, will convert to a blow through when you come up, the water to air kit has a long maf extention wire, and the terminals became corroded, they need to be cleaned and then apply dielectric grease to prevent it from coming back.:beer:
... ONe very notorious criminal that gets water in there is the infamous "No-Touch" drive-thru carwash. This monster of advanced technology WILL put water in the low mounted A/W MAF location...
What I do as a routine after using the carwash is park the car nose down on a incline for a few minutes. Usually the length of time it takes me to check and wipe down any puddled water in the engine bay.
Hope this also is some help !
:cool:
Or you can wrap the filter with a pre-filter that is water resistant.
sailsmen
03-28-2008, 08:58 AM
Where can you purchase a prefilter?
I did a search and could not find any.
K&N says they are about to release them.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294925239 +4294925170+115+4294865052
Stranger in the Black Sedan
03-28-2008, 10:50 AM
ONe very notorious criminal that gets water in there is the infamous "No-Touch" drive-thru carwash. This monster of advanced technology WILL put water in the low mounted A/W MAF location...
Nobody should be taking an MM through a car wash...
MarauderMark
03-28-2008, 04:42 PM
Or you can wrap the filter with a pre-filter that is water resistant.
The problem is the water going into the filter or into the connections? Cause i was thinking of wrapping the connetions with water tite and tape.
Nobody should be taking an MM through a car wash...
I love my car but i'm not standing outside getting sick to hand wash it.Now that the warmer days are comming i hand wash it.
Dennis Reinhart
03-29-2008, 09:10 AM
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294925239 +4294925170+115+4294865052
I think Trojan makes them to.:flamer:
Dennis only in the helmut division!
MarauderMark
03-29-2008, 10:44 AM
ok well i took the MAF off again it it seemed to be a little wet inside so i did as advised by the Dr(Electric parts cleaner and a little brss brush then used the leaf blower to dry it off then squrited the silicone inside & put it back together) and it does not stall anymore but there is definatly a loss of power takes alotta pedal to put em down it backfired once and bucking in 3rd and 4th gears. while all this was going on it threw 4 codes , P0102 , P1000 , P2196 , P2198 this happened after about 20 mins of farting(driving) around with the car then the codes so in the garage it goes till the Dr says what to do.
below are some pics of what i used and hoe they looked.
MarauderMark
03-29-2008, 10:46 AM
More pics.........
MarauderMark
03-29-2008, 04:03 PM
Well i took it out again and only got a few yards when it threw 5 codes 4 of the same and P0191 so i dorve it 3 miles with lose of some power. made my pick up and when i started it it stalled 2 times and was allright got 2 1/2 miles away and it threw 2 codes P1000 , P0102 . so it is in the garage until tomorrow. Weather permitting i'll clean er up a bit.
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