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jaywish
08-21-2003, 03:32 PM
This is a current Ebay auction with no reserve so far it looks like a good deal is being had.

//cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=6882&item=2428163934 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=6882&item=2428163934)
Logan
08-21-2003, 04:08 PM
Sigh... Dang nab it... About a week and a half too late..
TAF
08-21-2003, 04:25 PM
That could end up being the "deal of the year"!

Man...If my wife didn't hate this first one so much...

Hey "moneybags"...Uh...I mean marty...ship this one back with yours next month:D
Bigdogjim
08-21-2003, 04:37 PM
Too bad I just put a GM in to limo service...
I would have jumped on this one and few to the round up and drove it home.......................... ........
martyo
08-21-2003, 04:42 PM
OK, go get me a good deal.
duhtroll
08-21-2003, 04:46 PM
Just one thing -

We don't know what the final price was - the auction ended early.

It could have ended up being $30K (though I doubt it) or it could have been sold locally (my guess).

I like how he described it as a Ford Super Sport Sedan. :P

-A
TAF
08-21-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by martyo
OK, go get me a good deal.

You bought it...didn't you!!
martyo
08-21-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by TAF
You bought it...didn't you!!

Shhhhhh!!!!!
jaywish
08-22-2003, 06:33 AM
The price was at $21,005 with 2hrs 45min left.

The auction was closed about 1/2 hour later.
martyo
08-22-2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by jaywish
The price was at $21,005 with 2hrs 45min left.

The auction was closed about 1/2 hour later.

Isn't that against e-bay policy?
TAF
08-22-2003, 07:15 AM
Alright...so I'm not an "ebayer"...so what does this mean? I have been on there enough as an observer to see that if you bid on something, it is a legal contract for you to buy it. Does the same hold true (rules/regulations/legalities) for a seller? What I mean is...if you put something on there with no reserve to sell, are you obligated to sell to the highest bidder?

Sorry if this is a dumb question.
martyo
08-22-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by TAF
I have been on there enough as an observer to see that if you bid on something, it is a legal contract for you to buy it. Does the same hold true (rules/regulations/legalities) for a seller? What I mean is...if you put something on there with no reserve to sell, are you obligated to sell to the highest bidder?

For what it's worth, I think you are right, although I have never read the terms and conditions of e-bay which may speak to this.



Originally posted by TAF
Sorry if this is a dumb question.

"res ipsa loquitor"
Logan
08-22-2003, 07:28 AM
There are valid reasons for ending the auction early that aren't against ebays rules, they include:

The item is no longer available for sale.
There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
There was an error in the listing.
The item was lost or broken.

Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

Although there are legitimate reasons for ending a listing early, abuse of this option is generally investigated.
martyo
08-22-2003, 07:32 AM
Then, this is not what I would call a "true" no reserve auction.

Now I am curious and I will have to go get a look at the e-bay terms and conditions. Geez, who am I gonna bill for that??
Logan
08-22-2003, 07:40 AM
Marty... I edited my comments after looking up the real deal on Ebay's policies... :)
martyo
08-22-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Logan
There are valid reasons for ending the auction early that aren't against ebays rules, they include:

The item is no longer available for sale.
There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.
There was an error in the listing.
The item was lost or broken.

Sellers are not permitted to cancel bids and end listings early in order to avoid selling an item that did not meet the desired sale price. This is considered to be reserve fee circumvention.

Although there are legitimate reasons for ending a listing early, abuse of this option is generally investigated.


After reading this, as an attorney, I can only say that these rules are made to be broken....
TAF
08-22-2003, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by martyo
"res ipsa loquitor"

My dumb question may "speak for itself"...but NOW^^^who's the one that's confused, counselor?
TAF
08-22-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by martyo
After reading this, as an attorney, I can only say that these rules are made to be broken....


I'm NOT an attorney (though I did play one on T.V. before the game show gig)...

Seems to me "The item is no longer available for sale." Reason by the seller is VERY vague and could be used as an "out" by the seller anytime without challenge.

BUZZ!!! - "I'm sorry, but thank you for playing"
"Now tell them what they've won, Johnny!!!"
martyo
08-22-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by TAF
My dumb question may "speak for itself"...but NOW^^^who's the one that's confused, counselor?

Huh, whut???
MAD-3R
08-22-2003, 08:45 AM
I think the latin referance was lost on him.
TAF
08-22-2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by MAD-3R
I think the latin referance was lost on him.

I might be wrong...but I thought Res Ipsa Loquitur=The Thing Speaks For Itself