View Full Version : The Israeli Air Force
Mike Poore
05-31-2008, 11:02 AM
No comment necessary ....just watch ...and understand.
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4048756n
B.C. Bake
05-31-2008, 11:42 AM
Good story!! Who knows what the future might hold with those crazy leaders in the middle east. :dunno: The world is a small place, everyone will be affected when nuclear bombs start going off. :uzi:
I don't think the Israelis will ever let any of those crazies actually field a system that could be a threat to them. They won't debate it... just act in their best interest. And their interest is our interest.
bigdaddygangsta
05-31-2008, 02:42 PM
After that! will be paying $100 a gallon.. This could be the prelude To WWIII
Blk Mamba
05-31-2008, 02:56 PM
We have Hugo Chavez to worry about also.
Glenn
05-31-2008, 03:34 PM
Thanks for sharing that video with us - very impressive. One out of 40 trainees are selected for the Air Force. Iran will be bombed, it just is a question of what coutnry will do it first??
Glenn :burnout:
sailsmen
05-31-2008, 07:12 PM
In many ways we are quickly becoming Israel. It has already started in England and Denmark.
glassman99
05-31-2008, 07:49 PM
Israel has more balls than we now have. Pretty sad and devistating to us in the long run.
rayjay
06-01-2008, 07:33 AM
Isreal has more balls than we now have. Pretty sad and devistating to us in the long run.
Sadly I must agree. It will only get worse when a ultra left wing socialist is in the White House next January.
Glenn
06-01-2008, 08:45 AM
For the first time in our over 230 years as a nation we may well have our first American dictator, not President but a dictator. If the democrats control congress and win the presidency our country will never be the same again. It will be a dictatorship. Whatever laws or changes they want they will enact. We are headed for changes in our country that our founding fathers would never support. "Change" - will have a new definition and not what people thought when they voted.
Glenn
Aren Jay
06-01-2008, 08:47 AM
Yeah for Morris Fletcher, all the Morris Fletcher's.
sweetair
06-01-2008, 06:51 PM
Israel did this bombing in Iraq in 1981 and the US was silently most pleased. Israel has gotten in Syria's hair as well and it has been in out best interest as well. They will do it again if needed to Iran, and we will be their biggest supporters again. They are saving the US from doing it.
Gas will not hit 100.00 a gal. That is rediculous. Israel takes no BS, they can't afford to. We have no idea what it is like to live in a region of the world that is so volatile. And most of us here don't know what it is to be discriminated against on their level. Jews still take a lot of flack today.
I take pride in my Jewish ancestery and have family living in Israel today. Israel's fight is our fight and the US will ALWAYS support her.
That was a great 12 min clip of the strength that the Israeli Air Force has. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Shora
06-01-2008, 10:59 PM
Guys...can we please spell her name properly? It's Israel.
If you think that's a good clip (which it was), then wait for the one I will post tomorrow. It gives me goose bumps everytime I see it.
Shora
06-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Guys...can we please spell her name properly? It's Israel.
If you think that's a good clip (which it was), then wait for the one I will post tomorrow. It gives me goose bumps everytime I see it.
Here is the video guys. A letter to world from Jerusalem. My father and most of my uncles fought in both the 1968 and 1973 wars. Both my older brothers also went to Israel to serve in the IDF in the late 90's.
http://www.aish.com/movies/jerusalem.asp
ParkRanger
06-03-2008, 09:45 AM
Sadly I must agree. It will only get worse when a ultra left wing socialist is in the White House next January.
How can it get possibly worse than the last 7 yrs???!!! :eek: :mad2:
ParkRanger
06-03-2008, 09:48 AM
For the first time in our over 230 years as a nation we may well have our first American dictator, not President but a dictator. If the democrats control congress and win the presidency our country will never be the same again. It will be a dictatorship. Whatever laws or changes they want they will enact. We are headed for changes in our country that our founding fathers would never support. "Change" - will have a new definition and not what people thought when they voted.
Glenn
Hey Glenn,
Look into your crystal ball again and let me know who will win the NBA Finals so I can place a bet? :confused:
Glenn
06-03-2008, 10:04 AM
No terriorist attacks in the USA since 9/11. I would say that is a great accomplishment. Just one major attack would put our economy into a tail spin that would affect our country for years. Obama or the democrats do not understand a President's one major and most important role is to defend this country not tax the middle class and give away billions of dollars to special interest groups or tell us we have to ride bikes to work while they fly in their jets. This is a dangerous world and I want a President that understand this and works to protect me not tax me. A democratic president would be this country's first dictator, free to pass any law they want of any kind. If you wish for "Change" you may get something that you did not expect - change for the worse.
Glenn
ParkRanger
06-03-2008, 10:11 AM
No terriorist attacks in the USA since 9/11. I would say that is a great accomplishment. Just one major attack would put our economy into a tail spin that would affect our country for years. Obama or the democrats do not understand a President's one major and most important role is to defend this country not tax the middle class and give away billions of dollars to special interest groups or tell us we have to ride bikes to work while they fly in their jets. This is a dangerous world and I want a President that understand this and works to protect me not tax me. A democratic president would be this country's first dictator, free to pass any law they want of any kind. If you wish for "Change" you may give something that you did not expect - change for the worse.
Glenn
You still haven't told me who will win the NBA! :bs:
sailsmen
06-03-2008, 04:05 PM
How can it get possibly worse than the last 7 yrs???!!! :eek: :mad2:
What has been so worse? Worse than the President Carter years?
I don't view the past 7 years as being so worse and I have lived thru the greatest disaster this Nation has ever experienced.
My experience has only reinforced on what I already knew, do not rely on government, any government for your well being.
In the average lifetime 55,000 new laws are passed. Soon it will be easier for "Big Gov't" to tell us what to do instead of what not to do.
ParkRanger
06-03-2008, 04:29 PM
What has been so worse? Worse than the President Carter years?
I don't view the past 7 years as being so worse and I have lived thru the greatest disaster this Nation has ever experienced.
My experience has only reinforced on what I already knew, do not rely on government, any government for your well being.
In the average lifetime 55,000 new laws are passed. Soon it will be easier for "Big Gov't" to tell us what to do instead of what not to do.
Please disregard my post. It was meant for members with a clear and objective sense of reality.:revenge:
Bobmiddle
06-03-2008, 04:35 PM
You still haven't told me who will win the NBA! :bs:
Come on your in Ca. I'm in Las Vegas just let me know how much you want on the Lakers.
Sorry if it is off topic But I try not to discuss politics on a fourm. In the end I have my wife and my health and thats all I really need.
sailsmen
06-03-2008, 04:35 PM
Park Ranger - Keep posting your personal attacks it reveals your character.:D
Vortex
06-05-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.gtr5.com/
Im not going to forget.
sailsmen
06-05-2008, 10:55 PM
How can it get possibly worse than the last 7 yrs???!!! :eek: :mad2:
Heres reality;
President Time Period Average Misery Index
Jimmy Carter 1977 - 1980 16.27
Gerald Ford 1974 - 1976 15.93
Ronald Reagan 1981 - 1988 12.19
George H.W. Bush 1989 - 1992 10.68
Richard Nixon 1969 - 1973 9.98
George W. Bush 2001 - 2007 7.89
Harry Truman 1948 - 1952 7.87
William J. Clinton 1993 - 2000 7.80
John F. Kennedy 1961 - 1962 7.27
Lyndon Johnson 1963 - 1968 6.78
Dwight Eisenhower 1953 - 1960 6.26
My personal opinon is Carville coined the phrase, "it's the economy stupid" as in the electorate is too stupid to know that a sitting President can do very little to influence the economy. Carville's Mantra We will blame the sitting President for the economy since we know he cannot change it and beat him at the polls.
"Congress controls the purse strings because "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law;" (Art 1 Sec 9). This means Congress must pass appropriation bills in order for the Executive Branch to spend any money. The Congress must also pass revenue bills to raise the money for the appropriations.
Taken together, the taxing and spending decisions of the Congress are referred to as fiscal policy."
The President has very little influence over the economy. If the President could control the economy we would always have a great economy. President Roosevelt who was elected to office for 12 years could not control the economy. Bush asked the Congress to allow drilling in only one small area ANWAR and Congress ignored his request.
The President is the Executor of the Executive Branch.
The Presidents primary responsibility is Commander in Chief.
When you go into the voting booth your pick will be for who you will want to follow into battle;
A) A man who regularly councels w/ a selfconfessed unrepentant terrorist and who wants to counsel w/ men who speak of our demise
B) A man who is a decorated veteran and POW.
By medeling in the economy Congress artificially prevents recessions. In doing so "inefficiencies in the market" continue causing friction for efficient growth. The result is the realestate debacle which has been repeated twice in 20 years. Better to have several minor recessions than one big depression that we cannot influence.
Park Ranger - it's impossible for anyone to have an "objective sense of reality".
sailsmen
06-14-2008, 05:54 AM
For the ignorant news media controlled drones free yourselves from the bondage of liberalism;
Life Is Good, So Why Do We Feel So Bad?
By GREGG EASTERBROOK
June 13, 2008; Page A15
The Democratic National Committee recently ran an ad blasting John McCain for saying the country is "better off" than in 2000. Yet, arguably, except as regards the Iraq war, Mr. McCain's statement is true. In turn, Mr. McCain is blasting Barack Obama for suggesting that international tensions are not as bad as they've been made to seem. Yet, arguably, Mr. Obama is right.
Democratic attacks on Mr. McCain and Republican attacks on Mr. Obama both seek to punish impermissibly positive thoughts. At a time when there exists a sense of crisis over the economy, fuel prices and many other issues, this reinforces the odd, two realities of life in the United States today: The way we are, and the way we think we are. The way we are could use some work, but overall, is pretty good. The way we think we are is terrible, horrible, awful. Possibly worse.
The case that things are basically pretty good? Unemployment is 5.5%, low by historical standards; income is rising slightly ahead of inflation; housing prices are down, but the typical house is still worth a third more than in 2000; 94% of Americans do not have threatened mortgages, and of those who do, most will keep their homes.
Inflation was up in 2007, but this stands out because the 16 previous years were close to inflation-free; living standards are the highest they have ever been, including living standards for the middle class and for the poor.
All forms of pollution other than greenhouse gases are in decline; cancer, heart disease and stroke incidence are declining; crime is in a long-term cycle of significant decline; education levels are at all-time highs.
Sure, gas prices are up, the dollar is weak and credit is tight – but these are complaints at the margin of a mainly healthy society.
Yet the mood of public discourse is four-alarm panic. A recent CBS News/New York Times poll showed "Americans' views on the economy and the general state of the country have hit an all-time low," with 81% saying the nation is on the "wrong track" – the worst-ever number for this barometer. Some 78% told pollsters the U.S. is worse off today than five years ago, the highest percentage to say this since the CBS News/New York Times survey began tracking the question in 1986. Watch any news channel, listen to any political debate, read any pundit. The consensus is we're headed to hell in a handbasket.
Campaigning in Pennsylvania in April, Hillary Clinton said "We need to go back to the prosperity of the 1990s," a comment that drew loud, enthusiastic applause. Converted to today's dollars, per-capita income in the Keystone State is 23% higher than in 1990. People may think Pennsylvania was more prosperous in the past, but the state is better off today. The same can be said for most (needless to say, not all) parts of the country and most demographics. Most are, right now, the best-off they have ever been.
Some of the current gloom-and-doom may be explained by the human propensity to romanticize the past. Just what past would we return to, anyway? The 1950s, when there was systemic prejudice against African-Americans, women and gays? The 1960s, when inflation-adjusted per capita income was far lower than today? The 1970s, when high inflation rates wiped out paychecks and high interest rates made home buying difficult? The 1980s, when investors and people with pension funds were rooting for the Dow Jones to break 2000?
Of course a long, bloody and costly war being fought for no clear purpose depresses the national mood – as it should. The rest of the negativity is hard to fathom. Economic growth is slow, but even if a recession has begun, occasional cycles of slow or no growth are the price we pay for the much longer cycles of boom. Since 1992, the percentage of Americans who tell pollsters of the Pew Research Center they "can afford what they want" has risen steadily – from 39% in 1992 to 52% today, the highest ever. So why do we think the economy is failing?
Increasing pessimism from the news media is surely a factor – and the media grow ever-better at giving negative impressions. Now we don't just hear about threats or natural disasters, we see immediate live footage, creating the impression that threats and disasters are everywhere.
Whatever goes wrong in the country or around the world is telecast 24/7, making us think the world is falling to pieces – even when most things are getting better for most people, even in developing nations. If a factory closes, that's news. If a factory opens, that's not a story. You've heard about the factories Ford and General Motors have closed in this decade. Have you heard about the factories Toyota, Honda and other automakers opened in the U.S. in the same period? The jobs there have solid, long-term prospects.
The relentlessly negative impressions of American life presented by the media, including the entertainment media, explain something otherwise puzzling that shows up in psychological data. When asked about the country's economy, schools, health care or community spirit, Americans tell pollsters the situation is dreadful. But when asked about their own jobs, schools, doctors and communities, people tell pollsters the situation is good. Our impressions of ourselves and our neighbors come from personal experience. Our impressions of the nation as a whole come from the media and from political blather, which both exaggerate the negative.
The latter has never been thicker. Democrats insist Republicans are ruining domestic policy, Republicans insist Democrats are ruining foreign policy. Neither claim is true, but both reflect what we've been conditioned to believe: that America is in much worse circumstances than it actually is.
Mr. Easterbrook, a fellow at the Brookings Institution, is author, most recently, of "The Progress Paradox: How Life Gets Better While People Feel Worse" (Random House, 2004).
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