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merc
08-24-2003, 06:11 AM
It’s a Cool Saturday morning with a strong breeze indicating a good Dyno Jet day. The normal line up of Fast Fords was waiting to blast off. To start the day a Kenny Bell supercharged Lighting set the standard for all others to chase. This truck exhibited 425 rwhp, plus 500 pounds torque. What was amazing , this supercharger stayed considerably cooler then OEM units between runs. Next was my Marauder (MIB II), I admit running behind a fast Lighting deflated my ego a couple of niches, but I was determined to get some respect for the big four door from this bunch.

The first run was less then stiller. Chris was not able to find the sweet point and at 4000 rpms the car down shifted. A second later the left front frame strap fell to the floor, but not withstanding the car completed the first run.

Dynorun .073 Max Power 270.1 Max Torque = 304.1

This was a bad pulled and everyone had better expectations for the second and final run. After a fifteen-minute cool down period and some strap adjusting, we were going to find out what this motor had to give. Note: This is my second motor and I only have 768 miles on this engine and 11,000 miles on the car.

Dynorun .074 Max Power= 276.9 Max Torque= 311.7

I was very happy about this pull but was not sure if I had the right stuff to take on the next contender, the 2003 Mach 1 Mustang. According to everything I have read, this car should post better numbers and she didn’t disappoint.

Dynorun .074 Max Power 283.2 Max Touque 316.0

After a long day and few bottles of water I left wondering what would be my next modification. I had my crosshairs set on the Mach 1 and missed. Maybe, just maybe, I could get Mad 3R and his VT engine on the Dyno for a shootout? You know he is just 13 miles away, hint…hint….




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JET
08-24-2003, 07:07 AM
Merc,
I must have missed some of your post. I know you had engine problems and I assume you got a new motor.
*What was the problem & the cause?
**Who paid for the new motor, you or Ford?
***What mods do you have on the new motor to pull those kind of numbers?
Sorry for all the questions.

Marauder57
08-24-2003, 07:08 AM
Merc,

Do you have any mods on the MM? If so what?

merc
08-24-2003, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by marauder2306
Merc,
I must have missed some of your post. I know you had engine problems and I assume you got a new motor.
*What was the problem & the cause?
**Who paid for the new motor, you or Ford?
***What mods do you have on the new motor to pull those kind of numbers?
Sorry for all the questions.

The problem was a broken cam chain, and the cause is a pair of oil-starved cams. Ford paid for the new motor. The new Motor is stock and I only have the assistance of a performance chip. The engine code it’s a 300B (3G-120-AB) model with a computer code of BMDO, the only computer engine combination on this board. The service manager stated my engine is an early 2004, but this claim has not been verified. One thing I can tell you for sure, my original motor never had the zip this engine has, and this measurement comes from the set of my pants and now the Dyno jet.

The comparison Dyno Jet results was using the standard formula measurements. The SAE corrects were slightly lower as seen below for my Maruader.

Dynorun .070 Max Power 262.8 Max Torque =292.0
Dynorun .073 Max Power 270.1 Max Torque= 304.1

Logan
08-24-2003, 11:47 AM
Eh? My first 300A was a BMD0 car.

DetGeno
08-24-2003, 12:00 PM
Could of been the "Dual Knock Sensors?" that Ford is stating on the implements in the 2004?????? Anyone???

merc
08-24-2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Logan
Eh? My first 300A was a BMD0 car.

but your first engine was a 3R-120-AA

merc
08-24-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by DetGeno
Could of been the "Dual Knock Sensors?" that Ford is stating on the implements in the 2004?????? Anyone???

In modern electronic engine-management systems, especially those in which electronic ignition and fuel injection are integrated, a device that detects actual or incipient detonation and so signals the system's central processing unit to make appropriate adjustments (typically, retarding the spark) to restore smooth engine running and forestall the damage that would result from prolonged knocking. In so doing, they allow use of a higher compression ratio, greater turbocharger boost and/or more advanced ignition timing than would otherwise be possible, thus increasing engine efficiency in a variety of operating conditions. Most knock sensors are mounted on the engine block and sense the sharp vibration set off by knock, generating by piezoelectric means an electrical signal. I have seem this on import cars but I don't know the location of the ford implementation. It’s my understanding that the Lincoln division has been using dual knock sensors in the Continental and Town car since 1996. This is a new offering for Mercury and the Marauder, but the technology has been around for some time.

RCSignals
08-24-2003, 09:37 PM
My car is a 300B with computer code of BMD0

UncleLar
08-25-2003, 06:58 PM
Was the Mach 1 a stick or automatic? If a stick that might be the reason he's got a few ponies more than you,along with the fresh air intake.

merc
08-25-2003, 07:17 PM
The Mach 1 was a Stick and you are correct in assuming that the drive train would account for the difference. Although I lost the shootout with the owner of the Mach 1 he felt his car should have performed better. I personally feel the dealer and performance measurements were overstated misled him. After seeing a 03 Cobra turn plus 400 RWHP that day he must have reconsidered his investment. Beating a Marauder is one thing, but being smoked by a Cobra, that’s priceless.

In my area some dealers are asking 5,000 in additional markup. When you add that to the base price of a Mach you should consider a 03 Cobra.

RCSignals
08-25-2003, 08:59 PM
In my area some dealers are asking 5,000 in additional markup.

Dealers get so greedy. Then they complain about having a car around for too long.

prchrman
08-26-2003, 03:29 AM
Cobra's are $100 over invoice here...don't know about the Mach 1...