... Shopping for Nitto 420's ...

[Marauder386]

Okay, I am going to go with these on the rear in 255/55 ... So down here in the Dirty South, what would be the high and low prices for these ... and good reputable distributors for them ?

And post up with your pics and comments if you have had long term use of them ... please ?



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[Blackened300a]

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/DSCN0412.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/DSCN0410.jpg

You cant go wrong with these tires, they hook up great on the street and the track, plus you can do lots of burnouts and not wear them down. Best bang for the buck as far as tires are concerned.

[CRUZTAKER]

Tire Rack.

36 hours later they were at my back door, $120 each and $10 shipping.

[SID210SA]

Will a spare Nitto 420 fit on the shelf? I have also been thinking about getting these but wasnt sure if it would fit on the shelf.

[huot5]

Tire Rack.

36 hours later they were at my back door, $120 each and $10 shipping.
I didn't see them on tire rack, but discount tire has them for $120.

[Mest30]

Are these tires a direct fit? How many miles are they good for?

[huot5]

quite a few guys are running 255/55/18's and Blackened300a gave a thumbs up to the Nittos 420S. so did gmtech. the tire itself is 0.43" taller ( 29.04 for 255 vs 28.61 for 245's), so it will throw off the speedo by just a fraction. I like the current oem setup, but when the time comes for replacing the rears, I gotta make a decision.

I just checked 1010tire.com to do comparisons
http://http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp


these are calculations, so some tires pry aren't made by manufacturers.....

[gmtech]

they wear like iron..ive had them for 10k now on my Daily Driver..no handling issues at all
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/0/6/2/3-12-08021.jpg

[gmtech]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/0/6/2/3-12-08002.jpg

[gmtech]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/0/6/2/3-12-08023.jpg

[gmtech]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/6/0/6/2/truckcar005.jpg

[huot5]

thanks for those sweet pics, gm.

[Mest30]

Maybe I'm stupid, but how do they fit the stock rims if they are a different size tire?

[SID210SA]

Will a spare Nitto 420 fit on the shelf? I have also been thinking about getting these but wasnt sure if it would fit on the shelf.


Anyone know?

Anyone? Anyone? (Ferris Buelers Day Off)

[huot5]

Anyone know?

Anyone? Anyone? (Ferris Buelers Day Off)
you mean the spare tire shelf in the trunk? . :sleepy: maybe gmtech can check it out for ya.

and Cruztaker can possibly also chime in....

[SID210SA]

you mean the spare tire shelf in the trunk? . :sleepy: maybe gmtech can check it out for ya.

and Cruztaker can possibly also chime in....

Yes...that one.....

[gmtech]

not really sure if a 255/55 would fit but i would imagine it would..my full size spare (235/50) has a lot of room after its installed on the shelf..but ive never tried the 255/55 on the shelf

[Blackened300a]

Maybe I'm stupid, but how do they fit the stock rims if they are a different size tire?

They are just a little taller and slightly wider. My rims are stock and they mounted perfectly.

[CRUZTAKER]

I didn't see them on tire rack, but discount tire has them for $120.


Dude...!

I forgot. I order so much from the rack.

Your'e correct.

Discount Tire was my source.

[Mest30]

They are just a little taller and slightly wider. My rims are stock and they mounted perfectly.


Good to know. Any tuning needed for them for the speedo? What are you running in the front?

[CRUZTAKER]

No corrections needed what-so-ever.;)

[Mest30]

Cool, thanks. I know what tires I'll be getting when it's time for new ones. Luckily, there are several discount tires locations very close to me, too.

[Blackened300a]

Good to know. Any tuning needed for them for the speedo? What are you running in the front?

No corrections needed for the speedo and Im running the stock BFG's on the front but I plan to find a alternative for those.

[Taemian]

Tire Rack.

36 hours later they were at my back door, $120 each and $10 shipping.

Have they sold out? I can't find them on the DT site.

[huot5]

wrong numbers here, too. refer to my last post. thanks

[Taemian]

Ebay has these Nitto 420S among others. the size is 255/50/18 they show as 28.03 " tall, one inch taller than oem BFG rears
http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__4-NITTO-NT420S-255-50R18-255-50-18-2555018-TIRE-420S_W0QQitemZ160215053387QQad nZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20 Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQc mdZViewItem?_trksid=p3756.m20. l1116

Not much of a deal from these guys, costwise anyways. I'll keep looking, but thanks for the link!

[huot5]

Not much of a deal from these guys, costwise anyways. I'll keep looking, but thanks for the link!
shipping is steeper than DT, but it doesn't mean you can't give him an offer like DT's and see if the seller bites.

[dpotter]

I can't find them on DT's site either...

[dpotter]

I called DT and they said $144/ea, $340 out the door for the pair mounted, balanced, hazard.

[Seneca]

420's Mess with the Traction control on a 04 dont they?

[huot5]

cruztaker and gmtech haven't mentioned anything of the sort....

[gmtech]

found them at the DT site for 120 each
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?c=1&sw=false&cs=255&pc=40263&rd=18&ar=55

[Seneca]

cruztaker and gmtech haven't mentioned anything of the sort....
Correct me if i'm wrong I believe they both have 03's.

[huot5]

Correct me if i'm wrong I believe they both have 03's.
as in ...no TC button to worry about ..:confused:

[gmtech]

no TC here. but i dont think its enough tire to cause a TC issue:confused:

[huot5]

deleted due to error.........

[red]

quite a few guys are running 255/55/18's and Blackened300a gave a thumbs up to the Nittos 420S. so did gmtech. the tire itself is 2" taller ( 29.04 for 255 vs 27.03 for 245's), so it will throw off the speedo. I like the current oem setup, but when the time comes for replacing the rears, I gotta make a decision.


that's what I'm thinking since the 255/55 are two inches taller. I'm looking at 275/40's. they are 0.37" inches shorter than oem but I'm going back to 3.55's. does anyone know if this will set off the TC?

I call bad math. How are you calculating 255/55R18 tires to be 2" taller than 245/55R18 tires? See here (https://www.mymarauder.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tires).

245/55R18 tires have an approximate hanging diameter of 28.61 inches and an approximate loaded diameter of 27.75 inches.

255/55R18 tires have an approximate hanging diameter of 29.04 inches and an approximate loaded diameter of 28.17 inches.

This yields a height difference of less than 0.5".

The speedometer error will only be approximately 0.89 MPH at 60 MPH, which is perfectly acceptable.

[huot5]

245/55R18 tires have an approximate hanging diameter of 28.61 inches and an approximate loaded diameter of 27.75 inches.

255/55R18 tires have an approximate hanging diameter of 29.04 inches and an approximate loaded diameter of 28.17 inches.

This yields a height difference of less than 0.5".

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My profound apologies to everyone that read thru this thread. :bigcry: I will correct the other posts...

I obviously reversed the aspect ratio w/ diameter #'s....I have been calculating the oem's as 255/45's instead of 245/55's

the 255/45's are 27.03" tall. that's where I was getting the 2" difference.

you are correct, sir...operator error....:lol:

I have been miscalculating this whole time and I'm glad i didn't buy the Michelins I've been watching on ebay. :shake:

[CRUZTAKER]

Wow...you guys are stilll discussing driving and fit compatibility of these tires...:shake:

The difference is so minimal it doesn't affect ANYTHING.
Wider doesn't change runout booya.:P

Wait for a sale.

[ledzilla]

Saw the 420's on Discount Tire for $120 ea, about $11.75 ea for shipping, about 5 minutes ago. If they stay at a good price, I'll pick up a pair when my BFG's wear out on me next spring (two springs in a row, had to replace the rears, chances are these won't last the winter either).

[Pops]

How are they in the Rain?

[gmtech]

How are they in the Rain?
they are great..no complaints here...pretty good wet weather traction

[ledzilla]

What about snow? Mine's a dd that sees snow. From experience I know the oem's do ok in snow... When they still have tread, at least.

[CRUZTAKER]

What about snow? Mine's a dd that sees snow. From experience I know the oem's do ok in snow... When they still have tread, at least.

Snow tires work best on a Marauder in the snow...not as good as seasonal storage...but close.:D

[ledzilla]

Swapping back and forth between summer and snow tires regrettably is not an option (can't afford two sets of tires or two sets of wheels... no space either). Need something that'll be relatively decent in the snow as well as on dry pavement. So all seasons are my only choice currently.

[ts-pa]

...can't afford two sets of tires or two sets of wheels... no space either...

Some have bought steel wheels for winter setups to keep the costs low.

Buying snow tires (all around!) was the best decision I ever made for my car. It drove better than many FWD cars and some SUV with all season tires. As for storage; find a relative or friend with room in a garage or basement corner. Maybe offer them $10 a month for the spot. Some repair shops have storage space, make them a similar offer.

[ts-pa]

Back on topic of Nitto's, What is the largest tire size that will fit a widened Maurauder wheel?

[red]

Back on topic of Nitto's, What is the largest tire size that will fit a widened Maurauder wheel?
I would not go wider than 295, though there are those that go to 305. You could space it and possibly squeeze more, but I do not recommended it.

[rayjay]

What about snow? Mine's a dd that sees snow. From experience I know the oem's do ok in snow... When they still have tread, at least.

Based on tread pattern I would not drive these in snow.

[MTAMERC9]

Are you guys running the 255/55/18 Nitto 420s on all four wheels? I saw a couple of good deals around on them and debating on pulling the trigger on it. Does it affect the "rake" look of our vehicles running the same size all around?

[red]

Does it affect the "rake" look of our vehicles running the same size all around?
Stock fronts are about 1.3 inches shorter. So, you'll probably notice a difference with a same-sized setup.

[Marauder386]

Good lawdy , I have created a monster ! Excellent banter on these tires from everyone ! Anyway.... I am still going to go this route for the rears but have had some setbacks like an A/c unit that crapped itself all over my backyard ( condensor did an imitation of 4th of July ) and then a washer that damn near caused a Class Charlie fire in my laundryroom...those two first then I can slap the new feet on RoadPig...



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[CRUZTAKER]

Are you guys running the 255/55/18 Nitto 420s on all four wheels?

No way man...they're too tall...it would look like ass.

[MTAMERC9]

I thought it might look a little "assy" with the same size all around. Any other suggestions of both front and rear tires that would look good, perform well, and are AFFORDABLE? Lol. With the prices of everything these days going up I am trying to be practical and not spend an arm and a leg. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank!:beer:

[Krytin]

Nitto 255 45's.
I'm running on all four but the car is a 300A - no TC and it's lowered all the way front and back.
Where are you in Sufolk? We can do a drive by this weekend.

[MTAMERC9]

Im out in Mastic right off 68S of LIE. I would love to check out those tires sometime soon. Thanks for the offer!

[96DiamondVIII]

So I'm currently running stock tires all 'round ('03 300B)...replaced the fronts this spring, but the backs are dangerously low (I scared the hell out of myself driving in a rainstorm last week). Tire Rack is backordered on the 245/55, so I was considering other options, likely going with the 255/55 in back (minimal speedo error, and if I have to change the back size I want taller rather than shorter).

Of the common replacement options, the Eagle F1 DS-03 is damn expensive, the KDW2 is no longer made in 255/55, and the reviews on the Falken Ziex S/T Z03 seem mixed (plus I'm slightly uncomfortable that it's considered a light truck tire on principle). Which leaves me with the Nitto 420, but I'm concerned that it's not all-season. We usually only see a few, maybe 3 to 14, snowy/icy days each year here in NC, so it's not practical to own a set of snow tires, plus storage and cost issues. With that small amount of wintry weather, what do y'all think as far as using these year-round?

My other concern is with the traction control. Since these are *just* within the T/C's tolerance range (something like .29 according to the tire size app), and my front tires probably have at least 5K miles on them, how likely is it that I will piss off the T/C before the fronts have reached their wear limit? Right now I can't afford to spend another $300 to replace all 4 tires at once...plus they're showing up on discount tire's site at $160 per, not $120.

I think this can be summed up by "ARRRRGH!" Thanks in advance for any help...

[rayjay]

So I'm currently running stock tires all 'round ('03 300B)...replaced the fronts this spring, but the backs are dangerously low (I scared the hell out of myself driving in a rainstorm last week). Tire Rack is backordered on the 245/55, so I was considering other options, likely going with the 255/55 in back (minimal speedo error, and if I have to change the back size I want taller rather than shorter).

Of the common replacement options, the Eagle F1 DS-03 is damn expensive, the KDW2 is no longer made in 255/55, and the reviews on the Falken Ziex S/T Z03 seem mixed (plus I'm slightly uncomfortable that it's considered a light truck tire on principle). Which leaves me with the Nitto 420, but I'm concerned that it's not all-season. We usually only see a few, maybe 3 to 14, snowy/icy days each year here in NC, so it's not practical to own a set of snow tires, plus storage and cost issues. With that small amount of wintry weather, what do y'all think as far as using these year-round?

My other concern is with the traction control. Since these are *just* within the T/C's tolerance range (something like .29 according to the tire size app), and my front tires probably have at least 5K miles on them, how likely is it that I will piss off the T/C before the fronts have reached their wear limit? Right now I can't afford to spend another $300 to replace all 4 tires at once...plus they're showing up on discount tire's site at $160 per, not $120.

I think this can be summed up by "ARRRRGH!" Thanks in advance for any help...

I've had mine on now for probably 9k with no TC issues. As far as snow goes, if you know how to drive in it and there is minimal accumulation, the 420's should be ok. I wouldn't even consider them for where I live. I have had no issues with these tires, they handle great, wet or dry.

[red]

So I'm currently running stock tires all 'round ('03 300B)...replaced the fronts this spring, but the backs are dangerously low (I scared the hell out of myself driving in a rainstorm last week). Tire Rack is backordered on the 245/55, so I was considering other options, likely going with the 255/55 in back (minimal speedo error, and if I have to change the back size I want taller rather than shorter).
The 255/55's are a common option. I'd recommend matching speed rating and as closely as possible the tread design. See here (https://www.mymarauder.com/wiki/index.php?title=Tires) or here (http://www.tiresafety.com/images/Tire%20Replacement%20Manual.pd f) for some more information.


Of the common replacement options, the Eagle F1 DS-03 is damn expensive, the KDW2 is no longer made in 255/55, and the reviews on the Falken Ziex S/T Z03 seem mixed (plus I'm slightly uncomfortable that it's considered a light truck tire on principle).
The GS-D3s are well worth the money (safety and performance). Ask anyone who has installed them. Plus they are the top consumer rated max performance Summer and wet traction tire on TireRack (see here (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP)), with over 21 million miles reported. The Falken Ziex that are being used are Z01s. Most of the 255/55s will be SUV tires as it is a common SUV size.


Which leaves me with the Nitto 420, but I'm concerned that it's not all-season. We usually only see a few, maybe 3 to 14, snowy/icy days each year here in NC, so it's not practical to own a set of snow tires, plus storage and cost issues. With that small amount of wintry weather, what do y'all think as far as using these year-round?

If you want all season, you'll have to accept a lesser performance tire.


My other concern is with the traction control. Since these are *just* within the T/C's tolerance range (something like .29 according to the tire size app), and my front tires probably have at least 5K miles on them, how likely is it that I will piss off the T/C before the fronts have reached their wear limit? Right now I can't afford to spend another $300 to replace all 4 tires at once...plus they're showing up on discount tire's site at $160 per, not $120.

The 255/55s will not affect the traction control.

[CRC]

Nitto 255 45's.
I'm running on all four but the car is a 300A - no TC and it's lowered all the way front and back.
Where are you in Sufolk? We can do a drive by this weekend.
Got any pix?

Also here is a really good tire size calculator...I like it because you can change the wheel offset. I found this several years ago and have had it saved for a long time. With 5 cars I use it ALOT.
LINKY LINKY:http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

[Marauder386]

Okay .... RoadPig #1 now has new Nitto 420s 255/55/18's on her sexy azz ... paid a total of 345 dollars for both tires and the full monty ... Wooo ! Tire Kingdom rocks ! :burnout::burnout::burnout::bu rnout:


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