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Marauderjack
07-05-2008, 02:04 PM
Anyone have any experience with the SS mesh "cleanable" filters??:confused:
I have been doing some reading and the paper ones I have used (FL-820S, FL1-A) simply don't filter all of the oil.......they BYPASS as much as 90% allowing unfiltered oil back through the engine over and over again!!!!!:eek:
Ideas and input please.:bandit:
Marauderjack:burnout:
Marauderjack
07-06-2008, 06:01 AM
Bumpity....Bump....Bump??? :confused:
finster101
07-06-2008, 06:47 AM
My only use for one would be as a paper weight. If the paper ones are so lousey how do we have so many high mileage cars on the road? I have had an 87 IROC 350 go 150K, an Olds Aurora 120K and currently have an STS with 105K and running fine. If it ain't broke don't fix it. JMO.
Marauderjack
07-06-2008, 07:01 AM
I didn't ask you for a tongue lashing and my Marauder has over 172K miles on it with almost 90K on the blower WITH paper filters!!!:rolleyes:
My understanding is the bypass opens at about 6 PSI and only a small % of the oil actually goes through the filter media......which tells me oil ain't too contaminated by a "Healthy" engine anyway??:beer:
Most of what I have seen, the reusables have no bypass or much higher bypass pressure to force most or all of the oil through the media!!
Also, the reusable filter seems like a good idea from the disposal side!!:beer:
BTW, if it ain't broke.....I usually BREAK it!!:D
Marauderjack
fastblackmerc
07-06-2008, 08:25 AM
Get an oil analysis done after using a paper filter then after using a non-paper filter and let us know the results.
finster101
07-06-2008, 08:49 AM
I was't flaming you just stating my opinion. I am an ASE Master Tech and have seen a lot of cars. I have never seen anything to suggest that when proper service intervals are followed that paper filters are not doing the job. As with anything there are quality filters and junk filters. Most will tell the micron size on the box. At the Caddy dealership where I work we are using the Mobile 1 filters now since almost all of our new cars call for synthetic. I can also see a problem of cleaning the reusable filter. What do you clean it with? If it has to dry how long? Where do you dispose of the material cleaned from it. I guess I just don't see the real benefit to it. Again I wasn't trying to give you a hard time. If you should decide to use one I would be interested in hearing your impression of it afterwards. :beer:
Marauderjack
07-06-2008, 12:42 PM
I was't flaming you just stating my opinion. I am an ASE Master Tech and have seen a lot of cars. I have never seen anything to suggest that when proper service intervals are followed that paper filters are not doing the job. As with anything there are quality filters and junk filters. Most will tell the micron size on the box. At the Caddy dealership where I work we are using the Mobile 1 filters now since almost all of our new cars call for synthetic. I can also see a problem of cleaning the reusable filter. What do you clean it with? If it has to dry how long? Where do you dispose of the material cleaned from it. I guess I just don't see the real benefit to it. Again I wasn't trying to give you a hard time. If you should decide to use one I would be interested in hearing your impression of it afterwards. :beer:
No harm done.....I just wanted to find out if anyone here has ever used one or knows someone who has??:confused:
One company has replaceable elements and others have washable ones......they say any solvent and blow it with air.....reinstall and go again!!:beer:
One site says paper elements are only good own to 35 microns while SS mesh will trap smaller particles....down to 10-20 microns.....all state that any debris above 35 microns is destructive!!:shake:
My real question is........What about the 90% plus that bypasses the paper filters and how much damage, if any, that does??:cool:
Most enthusiasts tear engines up and hardly ever just wear one out....so anything to improve wear characteristics would be a plus to me since I pile the miles on!!
I'll contact Blackstone's and see if they have any input??:confused:
Once again, I am not unhappy with how far I've gone with OEM filters.....just curious whether or not I can do better!!:D
Marauderjack:burnout:
jfclancy
07-09-2008, 05:21 AM
Some on here are using these or something simular.
http://www.amsoil.com/bypassfilters/applicationguide.aspx
The best of both worlds bypass and full flow together takes it way down as far as microns are concerned. maintains full flow thru engine and within 5 mins filters all of the oil down LOW.
Joe Clancy:beer::beer:
cougar9150
07-12-2008, 07:36 AM
Does anyone know which kit they are using? Or is it just pieced together parts? I'm interested in this just to get the filter moved for easier removal but might as well improve while your at it. I was thinking something consiting of this: http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=22-626 with the dual filter mount BK-309 and plugs BP-191 then supply your own filters, fittings, and hoses. If you were looking for the full-flow(EaO-26)/bypass(EaBP-100) filter combo setup you woud probably have to buy the Amsoil parts listed above or find equivalent filters.
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