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Master
08-14-2008, 10:53 AM
Just wondering if anyone has an opinion of these new cars? Are they based on the 500 (er, I mean "Taurus") platform? On the Lincoln site there is no mention of the Towncar anymore. I really like the MK-S (I sat in it, front and back and it actually has head room, even with the sun roof - amazing), the engine, fit, finish, even the look, but it sure doesn't have the room of a TownCar "L".
Thoughts? Comments? I didn't know the Towncar was finished to start with. This surely means the demise of all Ford RWD full size cars. What will the cops do?

1of327
08-14-2008, 11:03 AM
It is a completely new platform...No 500/Taurus refresh...and yes the Towncar is done. We have a couple on the lot and they do get alot of attention. the interior is like a living room sofa... Love that S$%T!!! So far...good reviews, and recieved very well by the public.

STLR FN
08-14-2008, 11:20 AM
Just wondering if anyone has an opinion of these new cars? Are they based on the 500 (er, I mean "Taurus") platform? On the Lincoln site there is no mention of the Towncar anymore. I really like the MK-S (I sat in it, front and back and it actually has head room, even with the sun roof - amazing), the engine, fit, finish, even the look, but it sure doesn't have the room of a TownCar "L".
Thoughts? Comments? I didn't know the Towncar was finished to start with. This surely means the demise of all Ford RWD full size cars. What will the cops do?
Nice car. Can be well optioned. I think it will do well.
The MKS is based off the D3 platform as is the Taurus, Sable and Tarus X. It's built right along side the Taurus, Sable and Tarus X. Ford made sure that the MKS had enough body panels that were different so it didn't look like a badge engineered Ford/Mercury.

As for the it Town Car isn't dead, yet. It has to be ordered through the dealer. It was moved to ST. thomas Assembly when Wixom was closed down. Will continue with the rest of the Panthers till at least 2010.

Marawder
08-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Actually, it is off the same platform (CD if I recall) that the Taurus is on. It actually came from the Volvo S80/XC90 originally. Sit in a Taurus and you'll find the same roominess, just not the upscale quality as on the Lincoln. Softest leather you'll find, great dynamics for a Lincoln and surefootedness with the all-wheel drive. One of the quietest cars I've been in. Town Car is still around although only in livery edition (i.e. fleet purchase, limo, rentals, etc) and the Crown Vic is still around for our boys (and girls) in blue, again only for fleet (in Canada here anyway). Same for the Grand Marquis (fleet only).

Master
08-14-2008, 11:45 AM
Thanks for all of the info. Very informative. I've built about 3 of them on the website now. Crawled all over it at the dealership. Even though I shouldn't I think I'll take one for a drive. Hoever: Someone with an MM should NOT be thinking seriously about another car. However, in two years when they've depriciated but still have warranty...

sicilianmarquis
08-14-2008, 11:49 AM
it uses one of the volvo platforms, when i test drove one at work, it wasnt anything special to me, just another mk z was more like it, but im sure when they release the AWD and different engine in it, it will be sick

Bradley G
08-14-2008, 12:22 PM
The 2009 TC & 2009 GMQ LS are not dead yet.
The MKS is a very nice ride, the slap stick is a blast too!
That car with TT v-6 ECO boost ?
Hot Rod Lincoln he he

Master
08-14-2008, 12:32 PM
Put the CVT or Manual gearbox on it. Autos with a "Jeez look at me - I can drive a standard" stick are a waste of time, space and money. The dumbest thing ever invented.

JAYSILVER04
08-14-2008, 01:38 PM
Its a shame its a puller and not a pusher!! Thats the only reason I would not buy that car no matter how much it depreciates!

Raudermaster
08-14-2008, 02:30 PM
It won't have Eco-boost until late '09. I did test drive a new one and they are quite nice, a bit on the high side though $ wise.

Marawder
08-14-2008, 03:37 PM
When you compare the MKS to its' competition, it is actually less $ (at least here in Canada). Lexus ES330, Acura RL, C-Class (although size is E-Class). I do agree that while most sport-sedans are RWD, some of the premium brands are still FWD or have the option of AWD (Acura, Lexus). Remember, MKS is a LUXURY Sedan first and foremost, not a SPORT Sedan. Take it this way and the MKS is a VERY FINE automobile. Add the AWD option and it is an ALL-WEATHER LUXURY Sedan - especially important for those people living in the snow-belt areas (and pretty well most of civilized Canada for that matter!:D)

Mike Poore
08-14-2008, 03:59 PM
We saw/examined an MKS in black at our dealer's when we turned the Aviator in for the Navigator. In my opinion the MKS, especially in Black, is drop dead gorgeous. It's roomy comfortable and nicely appointed. I think it's gonna be a hit.

We gave it = :2thumbs:

Master
08-14-2008, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I really did like it. Q'est que c'est "EcoBoost"?

Vortex
08-14-2008, 07:24 PM
Its based on the same car as my 05 Montego and I have to say my car has been pretty good so far. I think the Lincoln does away with the glass in the C pillar which I think is an improvement. Actually coming out with a v6 luxury car is pretty smart right now considering the price of gas, Lincoln may accidently have a hit.

Marawder
08-15-2008, 06:33 AM
Yeah, I really did like it. Q'est que c'est "EcoBoost"?

EcoBoost is the formal name for Ford's new family of highly-efficient engines. The first will be the 3.7 Ecoboost for the Lincoln MKS, a twin-turbo with an estimated 340hp. It will then go to the Flex. Different engine sizes are in the works to go eventually in almost every Ford vehicle, including a different 6-cyl. for the new F-series in '10 or '11. Rumour has the Mustang getting it in place of the 4L, which should propel the V8 into the high 300/low400hp range to provide a power gap. I haven't yet, but I'm sure if you google'd EcoBoost you'd find a ton more info than what can go here.

de minimus
08-15-2008, 08:09 AM
I was at the dealership looking at one of these the other day. Fantastic car - great looks and impecable fit and finish. The only problem? @ 6'5", 320 lbs I couldn't fit in it. The dead pedal takes away the leg room and the B pillar rests uncomfortably against my shoulder. The lat support on the seats are made for much skinnier people. I guess I'm spolied with my Town car and Marauder.
This car should be a hit for FOMOCO.

Peter
08-15-2008, 08:13 AM
I wish Ford built this instead:

http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=16 655

Marawder
08-15-2008, 02:29 PM
MKR anyone? Stay tuned......

quota
08-15-2008, 07:14 PM
I saw one on the road today and I went all around with my MGM.

I am not impressed while I know that its platform (VOLVO - Taurus - Sable) is a good one. As all cars built on that platform, the MKS looks...bulky but not gracious. Further, it is a FWD or an AWD, and it seems that it will not be powered by any V8.

I am intending to change my daily driver (my MGM LSE) after the coming winter. After having seen what I saw today, I will not look for an MKS. I will rather go for another MGM or for a TC. After 1 year and a few miles, they sell for half the price and they are so funny to drive !

JP

pantheroc
08-17-2008, 11:35 AM
I like the MKS. However the price displayed on this weekends Motortrend show, killed my enthusiasm. I'd also prefer the twin-turbo next year.

whd507
08-17-2008, 02:01 PM
I drove a rental one a month ago, its allright, but too small, and I'm only 6,0 280lbs

a taurus with a really, really nice interior.

we are waiting a little longer until after the election to see which way the economy is likley to go, then we will likely buy three grand marquis during their final run. (saving one for later, and his/hers for now.

AWD may help, but I've never liked FWD even here in the snowbelt and when I lived above the snowline in the sierras.

rayjay
08-17-2008, 06:02 PM
What will the cops do?

Drive Dodges :rolleyes: I hope their consumer cars are better than their police cars. Does not ride very well.

whd507
08-17-2008, 06:42 PM
our local agencies are selling the chargers, they dont hold up as well, and go through brakes and front end components very quickliy. and not enough room for prisoners. they are very fast though.

rayjay
08-17-2008, 06:50 PM
our local agencies are selling the chargers, they dont hold up as well, and go through brakes and front end components very quickliy. and not enough room for prisoners. they are very fast though.

Haven't had ours long enough for it start that yet. Our Impalas are in the shop every other day. The Boss hates Fords. We're getting a Chevr Tahoe Hybrid next, :shake: oh I can't wait... Hope I'm gone before it arrives.

whd507
08-18-2008, 04:44 AM
ford is throwing away this market (its most profitable by far)

but it has a history of throwing away profitable markets that they own (medium duty trucks under nasser)

the panther platform is new as of 03, and works great, but they refuse to update, and continue to screw the fleet markets that have heavily depended on them for years. I assume they will discontinue the econoline next, so there wont be any ambulances...