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lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 01:47 PM
OK, so I'm new to MM, but not to Ford in any way. I WILL be install a supercharger into this Marauder!!! Even with all my research I am still baffled at which on to go with. We need the car somewhat still streetable, and are not interested in doing any lower engine mods.

PLEASE advise me????

In supercharger hazeeeeeee......


lincolnpimp:argue:

ImpalaSlayer
10-22-2008, 01:49 PM
trilogy hands down

sd8683
10-22-2008, 01:59 PM
Get a trilogy twin screw

Zack
10-22-2008, 02:06 PM
Buy a Trilogy

chader
10-22-2008, 02:11 PM
sounds pretty straight forward!!!!

2ndMDRebel
10-22-2008, 02:17 PM
Use the SEARCH function available on this site... then buy a Trilogy! :D

My advice comes from driving and racing a centrifugal (Vortech) for 21k miles and now a Trilogy Lysholm twinscrew for a little over 1500 miles so its strictly my humble opinion.

lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 02:20 PM
Well it seems like we all love the Trilogy, I hear there are 2 different models available. Which one, (or either) can I put on a stock engine?

Pops
10-22-2008, 02:22 PM
You need the smaller one unless you are going to build a motor.

lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 02:25 PM
not lookin to do major motormods,,,, but not completely out of question..... rather start with above the block mods,,,if u know what i mean

Pops
10-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Then do the smaller one that is 5995.00 if you do a Trilogy.

freakstatus
10-22-2008, 04:58 PM
not lookin to do major motormods,,,, but not completely out of question..... rather start with above the block mods,,,if u know what i mean

Whats more major than installing a supercharger...:)

lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 05:17 PM
oh i dont know,,,,,forged crank,,,,rods,,,forged pistons...u know stuff like that. and the trilogy sc looks well engineered and is in my opinion less intrusive than a complete lower end rebuilt/redesign....

MarauderTJA
10-22-2008, 05:26 PM
For the basic street Marauder with a stock block, the Trilogy is the way to go. Best bang for the buck, no question. Looks OEM with plenty of down low torque. The best overall street SC.

For built motors, the are other options to consider.

johnnyrauder
10-22-2008, 05:35 PM
i got a vortech v3 for $4500 has 453rwhp thats pleny ofbang for your buck

lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 05:39 PM
johnny, how is your sc? any problems? i very much want to make the right choice....

johnnyrauder
10-22-2008, 05:58 PM
ive had it about 2mo. no problems just
plenty of power at at both hi & low end
im not sure what kind of #s the trilogy puts out
but i feel for the $$ i couldnt have done better

johnnyrauder
10-22-2008, 06:04 PM
no prob. had it a 2 mo. pleny of power at both low & hi end i dont know what kind of nubers the trilogy puts out but i dont think i could have done
better for the $$

MarauderTJA
10-22-2008, 06:06 PM
i got a vortech v3 for $4500 has 453rwhp thats pleny ofbang for your buck

Granted other blowers offer plenty of power. I am pushing 641 RWHP with a 93 octane tune with my D1SC Procharger. My C16 race far more. But for a great street car SC with plenty of torque without a high speed stall converter, the Trilogy is a great choice. It is all in what you want to do with your car.

DOOM
10-22-2008, 06:09 PM
trilogy bro. You don't need the twin screw on a stock motor.

justbob
10-22-2008, 06:27 PM
After exhausting research of my own i chose the trilogy for long term reliabilty, stock appearance and feel (when not in boost). This out of the box is a complete kit for the car, nothing else is needed. I suggest the eaton (orignal) version for what you want.

lincolnpimp
10-22-2008, 07:13 PM
Thanks for all the great info. I can't wait to have the project completed!

Bradley G
10-23-2008, 04:27 AM
Do you want to be the first one off the line?
How much are you willing to spend?

Trilogy has sold 200 Marauder supercharger kits, that far out paces all the other forced induction power adders combined.

The customer service Trilogy Motorsports gives is a 10 out of 10.
I was sold on my first ride.

ctrlraven
10-23-2008, 06:42 AM
trilogy hands down

And yet your not buying one? lol

magindat
10-23-2008, 06:45 AM
Get a NOVI kit and don't look back. Set it up for your current mods and as you mmod more - returne. When you get the motor built drop the pulley size. Best for now, best fro growth.

I'm not sure Procharger kits are still available from FIT, but if they are - I'm super happy with mine!

252life
10-23-2008, 08:21 AM
If you already have an Eaton upgrading to a twin screw is probably not necessary, if your not going for bigger boost.

But if you don't already have an Eaton, get the twin screw right from the start.
It's cheaper to get the best right from the start in the long run.

And if I'm not mistaking the twin screw has more low end power and makes about 40-50rwhp more then the stock EATON kit.

Plus the sound alone is a big reason to get a twin screw, trust me:D

lincolnpimp
10-23-2008, 01:10 PM
I was under the impression that the twin screw would be too much boost for a stock engine. Is this true? Can I simply change the pulley on the twin screw model and bring down the boost, so to not cause any engine damage, but still have the future avalibility to utilize the full boost of the twin screw?

BAD MERC
10-23-2008, 01:14 PM
You won't cause engine damage with a Trilogy and stock pulley. You will cause damage to your tires and driving record.

Motorhead350
10-23-2008, 03:00 PM
Procharger has been great to me and it's quiet compared to the Trilogy. Trilogy is still a great buy, but Procharger has been great to me and I wouldn't have done it any other way.

I have 15,000 miles on my blower and it has been trouble free except for a few belts that were all (except one) my fault.

nonstick
10-26-2008, 07:44 PM
Has anyone made a turbo kit yet???

offroadkarter
10-26-2008, 10:51 PM
Has anyone made a turbo kit yet???



http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Another-PTK-Marauder_20684.htm

TAKEDOWN
10-26-2008, 11:03 PM
Does any out there like vortec?

Fourth Horseman
10-27-2008, 09:13 AM
Does any out there like vortec?

Loving mine. Probably not the right choice for everyone, but was perfect for me. Mine is the new V3 (self lubed) s-trim.

http://www.fourthhorseman.net/horsemans_marauder/Images/42.jpg

252life
10-27-2008, 11:19 AM
I was under the impression that the twin screw would be too much boost for a stock engine. Is this true? Can I simply change the pulley on the twin screw model and bring down the boost, so to not cause any engine damage, but still have the future avalibility to utilize the full boost of the twin screw?

The Twin Screw kit has been tuned using a big 3.75 pulley to 422 RWHP & 426 RWTQ.
And that is considered by Trilogy to be safe and reliable for a stock engine.

scruff
10-27-2008, 05:18 PM
i to have the new V3 Vortech and am happy with it , only draw back about the vortech is haveing to remove the whole unit just to change drive belt not much fun when your on the side of the road in crappy weather lol

red
10-27-2008, 06:36 PM
Has anyone made a turbo kit yet???
Before they skipped town, PTK made a single turbo kit. Todd and Juno have them installed. Kariamack supposedly has one in a box. We are seriously lacking turbo options.

red
10-27-2008, 06:38 PM
lincolnpimp, I have to agree with the majority on going with a roots style blower on this car. As others have said, Trilogy makes a great kit and offers great customer service (I'm not even a customer, and Jerry's always taken time to answer my questions).

Windsor58
10-27-2008, 07:11 PM
+1 on vortech. 22k+ with no problems. From what I have read, (and compared to my 03 Cobra), the Trilogy should make a little better power at lower rpm, while the vortech should make a little more at the top end. Mine was making 445 rwhp with 8 lbs of boost (belt was slipping - it has a 10 lb pulley). The belt isn't slipping, now, but I don't know what it is making with the higher boost, but it sure is fun!
The vortech does make more noise than my Cobra. It only makes noise when you get on it, so it is more stealthy. I assume the trilogy would be similar noise to the Cobra's Eaton. I love both, though. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. I would recommend a good experienced shop to do the install and tune, though.

Marauder131
10-30-2008, 08:44 AM
One will find there is a wealth of information with regard to the supercharger offerings for the Marauder, with each having its own characteristics. No matter which choice one goes with, it will result in a substantial increase in power. I personally own a Vortech and do like many of its features. That being said, I believe that if I were to go back and do things over again the Trilogy would be my preferred choice, for its great bottom end power, fit and finish, not to mention customer service.

im4darush
10-30-2008, 09:00 AM
Twin screw will offer much more tire frying torque in the lower rpm range. A cent. blower like the vortech will be softer down low but pull harder in the upper rpm range. A higher stall converter and gears will eat up a good amount of that torque lag. So its all a matter of which way you want to go. A vortech car can be set up to fry the tires just like a twin screw and have a strong top end as well.

Blackmobile
10-30-2008, 09:12 AM
Twin screw will offer much more tire frying torque in the lower rpm range. A cent. blower like the vortech will be softer down low but pull harder in the upper rpm range. A higher stall converter and gears will eat up a good amount of that torque lag. So its all a matter of which way you want to go. A vortech car can be set up to fry the tires just like a twin screw and have a strong top end as well.

I totally agree on that one. I have the 3500 stall TC, added to a Vortech T Trim, and I'm having to relearn launching because my tires just light up upon very little go peddle. On street tires i have to wait til 2nd gear before I light them up, otherwise I'll just sit there and spin um.

Ed

MMMAN
10-30-2008, 11:51 AM
I have driven two Trilogy cars and I like them, however I prefer the smooth drivability and performance of the Procharger better. I think the Trilogy looks better. The bottom line is they all have there pro's and cons.

At the end of the day you will smile more when you are supercharged!:)

im4darush
10-30-2008, 12:17 PM
Exactly right! I have a 3000 PI with 4:30 gears and it shoots out of the hole pretty good, and pulls hard all the way to 6k where it is tuned to shift. I see no real drivability issues with the converter, but do have higher revs on the freeway with the 4:30 gears.

It really is a matter of preference. There is absolutely no way a twin screw will hook out of the hole if you put your foot in it from a dig. You either have to have some pretty sticky drag radials, or baby it out. A vortech car is a bit different as you have a canvas to work with. My torque number is 397, and that is pretty much what others see on a vortech car. With the stock converter and 3:55 gears, the car will be a bit soft on the bottom and will not fry the tires. I did not really want a car that would 'smoke show' every time you got on it as that is just a waste of usable power. With a 3000 stall and 4:30's it will still light up the 305 nittos when they are cold, but I can get it to stick pretty good once they are warm. So....a lower torque number and some minor mods equals a car that can be set up to hook pretty good out of the hole and pull like a sob up top.

Marauder131
10-31-2008, 06:16 AM
I would agree that the addition of a high stall converter and gears can somewhat level the playing field down low, as I have both on my car. And one still gets the top end pull of the centrifugal to enjoy to boot. That is certainly one way to go. That being said, if one were strictly comparing blowers without additional mods like converters or gears, I would lean heavily towards the Trilogy. It's a personal preference, however.

bigmerc'03
10-31-2008, 09:00 PM
Ok in my oppinion this is what u should think about 1st is what do u want... bottom end,Trilogy (take off) or top end, procharger or vortech (no top on power) and are u gonna do any more mods if no mods go trilogy and stay stock....with the others and to be on the safe side u have to do the tranny, rear end, driveshaft, torque conv and brakes

offroadkarter
10-31-2008, 09:49 PM
We are seriously lacking turbo options.


Which really sucks, ive seen TT kits for the b body impala SS, we cant even get a single? :help: