'Twas the night before elections.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

No sense of humor!!!

[Blackened300a]

Just sucks my vote dont count since NY is a democratic state.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

Just because you live in NY doesn't mean that you can't vote for the other guy...:D

[oldekid]

I Saw this, and had to share . . .

'Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!

I, in my bathrobe
With a dog in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.

When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
And saw Obama and his boys

They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give it to the others
Who had not worked a day!

He snatched up my money
And quick as a flash
Jumped back on his bandwagon
With all of my stash

He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!

'On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!

They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
That wouldn't stand up and fight!

So I leave you to think
On this one final note-

IF YOU DON'T WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!I'm pretty sure that this violates the rules. We don't discuss religion or politics on this forum. But, if I am wrong, then, you sucK!

[03SILVERSTREAK]

No sense of humor!!!

[twin03]

The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!

[J D]

I'm pretty sure that this violates the rules. We don't discuss religion or politics on this forum. But, if I am wrong, then, you sucK!
Yeah, and with a capitol S


The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!
Woo!

[03SILVERSTREAK]

No sense of humor!!!

[Aren Jay]

It is funny how you Americans hold elections.

We Canadians have started and finish an election just last month. We elected the same guy, my MP, again and again he doesn't have any power to do anything much.

We go into vote they give us a piece of paper and a pencil and we X the person we want, in the circle provided. We then pop the X'ed ballot into a box and after poll closes they count them up and usually within 4 hours we know who won, occasionally we get a surprise and one seat changes from announced person to other person and then we go back to our lives. Yes this is a relatively expensive thing to do, cost $300,000,000.00 each time and generally we follow the rules, watch the funny attack cartoon ads, and pretty much know who we are not going to vote for based on an issue or two close to our hearts.

The night before the year of counting you should call this.

[twin03]

What has a beginning, must have an end. I put my life, and protected life in Iraq. When the war first kick off, my unit protected the oil fields in Iraq. For the whole year that I was over in that hell hole I protected the oil fields.............

[twin03]

**** Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[03SILVERSTREAK]

I'm pretty sure that this violates the rules. We don't discuss religion or politics on this forum. But, if I am wrong, then, you sucK!

Again No sense of humor!!!!

[twin03]

Canada do not want us to flex our musales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[03SILVERSTREAK]

Yeah, and with a capitol S

Again No sense of humor!!!

[TAKEDOWN]

Again No sense of humor!!!

That's because he's hardcore 2pac, no laughing allowed.

[knine]

'Nuff said.
VVVVVVV

[Shora]

'Nuff said.
VVVVVVV

Maybe he was not at a "pro America" part of the Country?

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/18/sarah-palin-gop-decide-whos-pro-american/

[Leadfoot281]

I've been following this election for about 4 years now.... (for real.. ouch) and I still haven't heard the Dims explain why the debt is MY problem. :confused: Maybe I'll go buy a Ferrari tomorrow and see if any of you libs here will help me pay for it.

Here's my favorite part; Obamas election strategy.

Step1. BHO wants votes. He offers you a $1,000 bribe ("tax break") to get that vote. Stupid people fill stadiums in favor of his vote buying scheme.

Step 2. BHO then charges Exxon with "windfall profits tax" since, according to him, they made "too much money". Exxon then charges YOU more for gas. Exxon loses nothing. YOU get screwed a little more at the pump.

Step 3. As a direct result of this socialist style hatred of hard work and success, BHO gets the White House. The Dims continue to amass power by enslaving people with hand-outs and Government cheese until they can no longer live without the Government. They'll continue to die by the thousands waiting for their checks while standing in front of Cat 5 hurricanes.


Oh well, at least the White House will be safe. I doubt Bill Ayers will try to blow it up (again) once his buddy is living there.

[Shora]

...I still haven't heard the Dims explain why the debt is MY problem. :confused: Maybe I'll go buy a Ferrari tomorrow and see if any of you libs here will help me pay for it.


Tell me that you are joking so that we may laugh with you.

You do know that the bailout plan came out of the executive? You do know that many conservatives voted for the plan that was originally written by conservatives?

You do know that the "conservative" running for President voted for the bailout?

Following the election for 4 yrs. and you "only" blame the libs for this?

Unbelievable.

[Zack]

Im just glad black people will finally have someone like themselves to blame for everything they say they dont get, which is everything.

[SC Cheesehead]

Tell me that you are joking so that we may laugh with you.

You do know that the bailout plan came out of the executive? You do know that many conservatives voted for the plan that was originally written by conservatives?

You do know that the "conservative" running for President voted for the bailout?

Following the election for 4 yrs. and you "only" blame the libs for this?

Unbelievable.

NOT!

http://www.mortgagelawnetwork.com/origins-of-the-fannie-maefreddie-mac-crisis/

You want to argue this one, there are dozens more links that will tell you the same thing.

Problem actually goes back to the Carter administration, has continued on since then.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

NOT!

http://www.mortgagelawnetwork.com/origins-of-the-fannie-maefreddie-mac-crisis/

You want to argue this one, there are dozens more links that will tell you the same thing.

Problem actually goes back to the Carter administration, has continued on since then.

Thank you ,thank you ,thank you :cheer::trophy::2thumbs:

[Master]

Just because a problem is pre-existing does not mean that a current administration can't break the cycle, or at least die trying. They voted for the bailout, thus perpetuating the cycle. That much is clear.
The idea of Obama being socialist because he takes big donations from FannyMae et.al. is odd. It is about as capitolist as you can get. Line yer pockets while ya can. Yup. That's capitolism. Sure, it happens even in communist regimes, but when they get outed for the practice they are usually hanged or shot publicly to let the world know they are "serious" about their political beliefs (even if it is just for show). Here in the West (and yes, I'm including Canada), when graft, bribes, etc are uncovered, the scoundrels are at worst fired and go on to great carreers in the private sector and generally never have to repay any of the money that was garnered illegally.
How sad is that? And it hardly speaks to socialism, just plain greed.
(PS And if at all possible, these things are legalized so that no one ever has to lose their job for it - political donations, I think they call 'em)

[SC Cheesehead]

Thank you ,thank you ,thank you :cheer::trophy::2thumbs:

Here's a couple more links, for those who still "skeptical":


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153E F933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0


Oh, and here's an intersting "coincidence":

http://hispanicpundit.com/2008/09/10/top-recipients-of-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-campaign-contributions/


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423701,00.html


http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama-contributions-2.htm

I could go on and on.......

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07/top-senate-recipients-of-fanni.html



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123B F932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print


http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,432501,00.html

[Leadfoot281]

Tell me that you are joking so that we may laugh with you.

You do know that the bailout plan came out of the executive? You do know that many conservatives voted for the plan that was originally written by conservatives?

You do know that the "conservative" running for President voted for the bailout?

Following the election for 4 yrs. and you "only" blame the libs for this?

Unbelievable.

Yep. It's the libs fault 100%. I can say that because they're ALL libs.

McCain, Bush, all of 'em. Libs and Rinos. The only conservative running is Palin and she has her own socialist leanings. Especially with her "profit sharing" with the people of Alaska and big oil.

In her defense though, Alaskans have a very scenic state. Big oil didn't help them in that regard. I consider the profit sharing that went on there a form of compensation for their loss. Let's face it, would you allow a rusty old oil rig to be placed on your lawn permanently without any compensation? Unfortunately tax payers paid for it through higher oil prices.

This election ought to be a liberal paradise. This year you can choose between left and extreme far left.

It wasn't until McCain ended up running against BHO did the media start giving him a hard time.

[Shora]

Tell me that you are joking so that we may laugh with you.

You do know that the bailout plan came out of the executive? You do know that many conservatives voted for the plan that was originally written by conservatives?

You do know that the "conservative" running for President voted for the bailout?

Following the election for 4 yrs. and you "only" blame the libs for this?

Unbelievable.


NOT!

http://www.mortgagelawnetwork.com/origins-of-the-fannie-maefreddie-mac-crisis/

You want to argue this one, there are dozens more links that will tell you the same thing.

Problem actually goes back to the Carter administration, has continued on since then.


Hello???

Can you not see that I was talking about the bailout???? The $750 Billion+ conservatives wanted to give to those who made bad financial decisions.

I was NOT talking about the plan of getting poor people into homes because even though it did "begin" under Carter's Admin, the program was allowed to continue AND even expand under a number of Republican Administrations.

[Shora]

Thank you ,thank you ,thank you :cheer::trophy::2thumbs:


I am glad to see you are so very thankful.

Do point out how any republican or "conservative" did indeed do anything "conservative" in addressing this matter.

THE BAILOUT PLAN (a socialism plan) was written by conservatives and passed by McCain and many other "conservatives."

You're very VERY welcome buddy!!!

[OneBADLsE]

The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!


Great. :rolleyes:

[OneBADLsE]

I am glad to see you are so very thankful.

Do point out how any republican or "conservative" did indeed do anything "conservative" in addressing this matter.

THE BAILOUT PLAN (a socialism plan) was written by conservatives and passed by McCain and many other "conservatives."

You're very VERY welcome buddy!!!


They are not conservatives. BUSH, is NOT A CONSERVATIVE. No self respecting conservative would have voted for this bailout. NOT A ONE.

Let them burn, and reorganize. That would have been the route i took.

[OneBADLsE]

Just sucks my vote dont count since NY is a democratic state.


+1 :bs::bs::bs:

[Leadfoot281]

They are not conservatives. BUSH, is NOT A CONSERVATIVE. No self respecting conservative would have voted for this bailout. NOT A ONE.

Let them burn, and reorganize. That would have been the route i took.


+1!!!!

It's unfair and inaccurate to call any of these Republicans "conservatives". Ronald Reagon would have let them fail and we'd all have been much better off if they did.

It's been said that "Pain is just weakness leaving the body". Today those weaknessses get propped up when they should be allowed to fail.

[SC Cheesehead]

Hello???

Can you not see that I was talking about the bailout???? The $750 Billion+ conservatives wanted to give to those who made bad financial decisions.

I was NOT talking about the plan of getting poor people into homes because even though it did "begin" under Carter's Admin, the program was allowed to continue AND even expand under a number of Republican Administrations.

Wrong again, my friend.
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/09/27/2008-09-27_congress_leaders_announce_t entative_700_.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/congress-white-house-reac_n_129964.html


http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/29/news/economy/bailout/index.htm?cnn=yes


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26953481/

If you'll recall, the HR orignally defeated the bailout bill, due to the efforts of Republican Representatives and a few Democrats that were able to come to their senses, ""No" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill."

Oh, and Barney Frank (D-Mass) was one of the lead negotiators on crafting the compromise bill. This is the same Barney Frank that insisted there was "nothing wrong" at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac in 2004.

by the way, his boyfriend was an executive at Fannie Mae at the time, but of course, that's mere coincidence.........yeah right.:rolleyes:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/29/video-democrats-insist-nothing-wrong-at-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-in-2004/

http://crystalclearconservative.wordp ress.com/2008/10/06/barney-franks-boyfriend-was-executive-fannie-mae/

[Aren Jay]

One wonders why Politics is banned here?

[SC Cheesehead]

One wonders why Politics is banned here?


:D Excellent point! I'd rather talk car stuff, it has much less effect on my blood pressure!;)

[TiTo35]

One wonders why Politics is banned here?


I am just waiting for this thread to magically disappear...:shake:

[OneBADLsE]

Its healthy to educate...as well as annihilate (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=annihilate&spell=1) when the opportunity arrises....(my favorite quote)

[offroadkarter]

Haha thats funny as hell!

Nobama 08'!

[Master]

So far, I find very little offensive here that could be targeted for removal - everyone seems pretty civil. Apart from the fact that we do seem to be breaking the rules a tad bit, that is.

[SC Cheesehead]

More quotes:

A prince never lacks legitimate reasons to break his promise.

I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it.

Men are so simple and so much inclined to obey immediate needs that a deceiver will never lack victims for his deceptions.

Men are so simple and yield so readily to the desires of the moment that he who will trick will always find another who will suffer to be tricked.

One change always leaves the way open for the establishment of others.

Princes and governments are far more dangerous than other elements within society.

and finally...

Politics have no relation to morals.

All of the above are from Niccolò Machiavelli, 1469 - 1527

[CBT]

For someone who promises change, he should have started with corrupt politics in Chicago. I guess he was busy writing 2 memoirs...

[Zack]

Anyone heard what C.H.A.N.G.E. really stands for? :rofl:

[CBT]

Anyone heard what C.H.A.N.G.E. really stands for? :rofl:

Casey Has A Nice Gigantic ...Election?

[Shora]

They are not conservatives. BUSH, is NOT A CONSERVATIVE. No self respecting conservative would have voted for this bailout. NOT A ONE.

Let them burn, and reorganize. That would have been the route i took.


Gotta love it.

Conservatives vote for Bush (twice) and all the while preaching that he shares their (conservative) values. Then, on his way out they call him a lib while VOTING FOR McCain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

ROTFLMAO :lol:

I needed that.

[OneBADLsE]

Gotta love it.

Conservatives vote for Bush (twice) and all the while preaching that he shares their (conservative) values. Then, on his way out they call him a lib while VOTING FOR McCain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

ROTFLMAO :lol:

I needed that.



Shora, he *(MCCAIN) IS the lesser of two evils. BUSH shared the same fate. BEING ELECTED AS A LESSER OF TWO EVILS!!!

One could say the same about McCain....we could talk about his dealings with the Kennedys all day long.

[Leadfoot281]

Gotta love it.

Conservatives vote for Bush (twice) and all the while preaching that he shares their (conservative) values. Then, on his way out they call him a lib while VOTING FOR McCain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

ROTFLMAO :lol:

I needed that.

And just who SHOULD we have voted for? Kerry? Gore?

Sheesh...:shake:

What's it like to have the absolutely PERFECT candidate EVERYTIME you go to the polls? How does that even happen? Do you get a chance to hand-select your candidates views/positions before voting?

It was a big $h1t sandwich and we all had to take a bite.

Just out of curiosity, since BHO was both for and against the D.C hand gun ban, do you also agree with BOTH of his views? (this I've got to hear!)

Also, I know you just love E-85 (LOL!). Still voting for Obama and his E-85 plan?

[Bluerauder]

The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!
So this is the "Change" that you were looking for? Dayum shame that it couldn't be about the issues and who is best for all of America. That I could understand. I can even appreciate the passionate arguments -- on the issues -- of those who have differing opinions. That is how we learn to understand each other. But the above ^^^^ comment is :bs: I hope that America wakes up in time before it finds that it screwed the pooch on this one. :woof:

IBTL

[OneBADLsE]

So this is the "Change" that you were looking for? Dayum shame that it couldn't be about the issues and who is best for all of America. That I could understand. I can even appreciate the passionate arguments -- on the issues -- of those who have differing opinions. That is how we learn to understand each other. But the above ^^^^ comment is :bs: I hope that America wakes up in time before it finds that it screwed the pooch on this one. :woof:

IBTL


HE represents the ignorance voting for Mr. Husein Obama.

[Shora]

And just who SHOULD we have voted for? Kerry? Gore?

Sheesh...:shake:

What's it like to have the absolutely PERFECT candidate EVERYTIME you go to the polls? How does that even happen? Do you get a chance to hand-select your candidates views/positions before voting?

It was a big $h1t sandwich and we all had to take a bite.

Just out of curiosity, since BHO was both for and against the D.C hand gun ban, do you also agree with BOTH of his views? (this I've got to hear!)

Also, I know you just love E-85 (LOL!). Still voting for Obama and his E-85 plan?

There is a lot I don't like about Obama. I was a H. Clinton Dem.. I also voted for Bush in 04 after almost crying when he was elected in 2000.

I don't follow party lines.

I don't like how the Republicans are calling the Dems Socialist and Marxists even though they do the same thing.

-The Bailout!

-Sarah's oil money for Alaskan Residents.

-McCain's Bad Mortgage buy back program.

-McCain's Health Care Subsidy.

-McCain talking about "cutting out the pork" yet picks a V-P who's residents received more ear mark "pork" per capita than those in any other State.

-Socialism at it's best (or worst).

[Blackened300a]

The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!

I dont know what you guys expect to happen if he gets in? Reperations?? Racism ends if he gets elected, Nobody is holding you down anymore, If you put your mind to it and stay out of trouble you can become the president of the United States! All bets are off!!!


Anyone heard what C.H.A.N.G.E. really stands for? :rofl:

Yes I have and we would earn a long vacation if we came out with it. :lol:

[OneBADLsE]

looks like its over. Mccain is dyin out there...(no pun intended)

Unreal.

[Zack]

Obama is gonna get shot in the head, most likely by a black guy.
It will be blamed on white people.
End post.

[OneBADLsE]

obama is gonna get shot in the head, most likely by a black guy.
It will be blamed on white people.
End post.



+1...........

[KillJoy]

Ohio is "official" for Obama.

No Republican has won the Office w/o winning OH.

KillJoy

[Blackened300a]

Ohio is "official" for Obama.

No Republican has won the Office w/o winning OH.

KillJoy

Yeah its looking like the end is near. Lets sit back and watch the world go to hell in a handbasket.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

I am glad to see you are so very thankful.

Do point out how any republican or "conservative" did indeed do anything "conservative" in addressing this matter.

THE BAILOUT PLAN (a socialism plan) was written by conservatives and passed by McCain and many other "conservatives."

You're very VERY welcome buddy!!!

I am very thankful that many people out there does see the truth and its in black and white (no pun intended) on the internet and news article written by investigate reporters from numerious news bureau. but still many don't want to know the truth and choose to ignore it because they want a radical change in government.

I hope you are ready to pay more in taxes to the croonies in washington that were involved in this 20 + year Fanie Mae/Freddie Mac scheme because in my view ,I just didn't want to reward them with the keys to the white house.

[Zack]

Lets all thank the mods for taking a vacation on this thread.
This is fun!

[Hacklemerc]

Maybe they are too busy watching the results?

[KillJoy]

Today is important to all Americans. This thread is needed for this forum, at least for tonight and the next day or two. You cannot bury your head in the sand to WORLD MATTERS.

KillJoy

[SC Cheesehead]

There is a lot I don't like about Obama. I was a H. Clinton Dem.. I also voted for Bush in 04 after almost crying when he was elected in 2000.

I don't follow party lines.

I don't like how the Republicans are calling the Dems Socialist and Marxists even though they do the same thing.

-The Bailout!

-Sarah's oil money for Alaskan Residents.

-McCain's Bad Mortgage buy back program.

-McCain's Health Care Subsidy.

-McCain talking about "cutting out the pork" yet picks a V-P who's residents received more ear mark "pork" per capita than those in any other State.

-Socialism at it's best (or worst).

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" - Karl Marx, 1875

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." - Barack Obama, 2008

Obama openly promotes Marxist philosophy and conservatives are accused of name calling?

Republicans have done a bunch of dumb azz things over the past 8 years, but promoting socialism ain't one of 'em.:rolleyes:

In any event, "the Chosen One" appears to well on his way to being our next President. :shake:

Maybe it's time for me to relocate to the Cayman Islands..."The Cayman Islands' political system is very stable, bolstered by a tradition of restrained civil governance, sustained economic prosperity, and its relative isolation from foreign policy concerns by virtue of its colonial relationship with the United Kingdom. Public discussion revolves around public sector expenditure and social services, the pace of additional economic development, and the status of the large foreign national community on the islands...the Cayman Islands ' main appeal as a financial center is the absence of all major direct taxes, free capital movement, a minimum of government regulations, and a well-developed financial infrastructure."

Sounds like my kinda place. I wonder if they sell 93 octane down there? :coolman:

[Zack]

Blues brothers in the Caymans?
I like it!

[KillJoy]

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" - Karl Marx, 1875

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." - Barack Obama, 2008

Obama openly promotes Marxist philosophy and conservatives are accused of name calling?

Republicans have done a bunch of dumb azz things over the past 8 years, but promoting socialism ain't one of 'em.:rolleyes:

In any event, "the Chosen One" appears to well on his way to being our next President. :shake:

Maybe it's time for me to relocate to the Cayman Islands..."The Cayman Islands' political system is very stable, bolstered by a tradition of restrained civil governance, sustained economic prosperity, and its relative isolation from foreign policy concerns by virtue of its colonial relationship with the United Kingdom. Public discussion revolves around public sector expenditure and social services, the pace of additional economic development, and the status of the large foreign national community on the islands...the Cayman Islands ' main appeal as a financial center is the absence of all major direct taxes, free capital movement, a minimum of government regulations, and a well-developed financial infrastructure."

Sounds like my kinda place. I wonder if they sell 93 octane down there? :coolman:


Blues brothers in the Caymans?
I like it!


So.... where can I pick up a Blue for Cheap?

:dunno:

KillJoy

[Zack]

So.... where can I pick up a Blue for Cheap?

:dunno:

KillJoy

In the tampon aisle

[KillJoy]

In the tampon aisle


Ahhhh... THAT is why I have never seen one....


:coolman:

KillJoy

[knine]

So.... where can I pick up a Blue for Cheap?

:dunno:

KillJoy
Hey hey hey hey hey.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

This is something I read and food for thought:


Five Election Myths



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By Anne Applebaum (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/anne+applebaum/)
Tuesday, November 4, 2008; Page A17


Election Day, as always, is fraught with peril. Beware the seductiveness of opinion polls, which can mislead badly; beware the even greater attraction of exit polls, which have so often been wrong. Beware the too-early commentary, the too-swift judgment; and, above all, beware the hopeful, reassuring cliches that will be passed around today and tomorrow, giving false succor to winners and losers alike. Among the most dangerous:




<SCRIPT><!--var rn = ( Math.round( Math.random()*10000000000 ) );document.write('<s\cript src="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110302610_StoryJs.js?'+r n+'"></s\cript>') ;// --></SCRIPT><SCRIPT src="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/03/AR2008110302610_StoryJs.js?913 9877886"></SCRIPT>The Republican Party will benefit from some time out of office. Not necessarily. Those Republicans who comfort themselves with this argument should remember the example of the British Conservative Party, which was ejected from power by Tony Blair (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Tony+Blair?tid=informline) in 1997 and spent the next decade tearing itself to shreds. Spared the time-consuming business of governing, the Tories had more time to argue with one another about basic principles and split themselves into warring factions. As a result, they have nominated one unelectable leader after another and have remained out of power.


The Democratic Party (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/U.S.+Democratic+Party?tid=info rmline) will become more thoughtful and responsible when in power. History tells a different story here, too: After decades in opposition, the Republicans took control of the House in 1994, vowing to reform Congress. For a while, they tried. Then they gave up. If anything, the subsequent Republican Congresses proved to be bigger spenders and more avid consumers of pork than their predecessors had been. More to the point: The current Democratic Congress is, so far, no better.


A Congress and White House (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+White+House?tid=informline ) under the control of a single party will function more efficiently. This, as Bill Clinton (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Bill+Clinton?tid=informline) can tell you, is manifestly not always the case. To cite another cliche: power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Without the need to make cross-aisle deals, the temptation to make bad decisions is great. Also, if and when the president becomes unpopular, Congress has an incentive to defy him, regardless of his party -- and vice versa.


If Barack Obama (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Barack+Obama?tid=informline) wins, our standing in the world will improve immediately, just because he's "different." There will, I am sure, be a brief moment of shock and surprise when the rest of the world learns that one of its most treasured beliefs -- "whatever happens, the Americans are always more racist than we are" -- is untrue. There will also be a good deal of rejoicing at the passing of the hated Bush administration. But reality will set in quickly as foreigners discover, along with American voters, that the American president isn't as powerful as they think, can't change everything immediately and won't be able to change some things at all. A President Obama would not be able to end the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, he would not be able to make the stock exchanges rise, and he would not be able to halt the recession right away. And that's only the short-term disappointment. In the long term, foreigners, along with American voters, will also discover that America is not about to give up on global capitalism and start "redistributing" the nation's wealth to others. Kenyans in particular will be disappointed.


After the election, we can finally stop talking about politics. No! This interminable political season will not, I'm afraid, be over so quickly. If Obama wins, every single one of his first moves will touch off debate: Not only will he be the first black president, the first post-boomer president and the first Democrat in eight years, he will be the first Democrat in office after Sept. 11, which makes all of his early security decisions crucial. By contrast, if John McCain (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/John+McCain?tid=informline) wins, every U.S. polling organization -- along with the entire American political commentariat, as Slate's John Dickerson (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/John+Dickerson?tid=informline) has observed -- will be utterly discredited. A lot of explanations will be required.
Whoever wins, the assessment of who's in and who's out of Congress, who's been appointed to what in the apres-Bush White House, and what it all means will take weeks and weeks. And yes, as my Post colleague Jackson Diehl (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Jackson+Diehl?tid=informline) notes (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/02/AR2008110201722.html), the new president will be very quickly tested, if not by Iraq then by Iran, if not by North Korea then by Syria: Joe Biden (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Joseph+Biden?tid=informline), at least on this single point, is correct. Alas, for those who liked the world better when there was nothing on television but Paris Hilton (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Paris+Hilton?tid=informline): It's not over till it's over -- and even then it's not over, not for a long, long time.

[Leadfoot281]

Obama is gonna get shot in the head, most likely by a black guy.
It will be blamed on white people.
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Ummmm... You just wanna get a little closer look at those CV's the Feds drive. Right? :lol:

[JVJ]

WE ARE DOOMED!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/4/1/0/0/GrimReaper021.jpg

[Bluerauder]

They just called Virginia for Obama. Its BOHICA time.

[Speed]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but some of the comments here really don’t seem to be politically driven but actually shows another side………….Hmmm?

[Aren Jay]

Time to close this thread.

[rayjay]

He has four years to prove us all wrong. I pray he can do it. Exactly what he is going to do remains to be seen. I just listened to a economist who says the honeymoon is over by the end of his 1st month in office as it becomes evident he can not fix the economy quickly. If he acutally turns communist on us were screwed...

[rayjay]

The White house is going to be renamed the "black house".......Go Obama!!!!!!

Considering that BHO is only 12.5% black African, this statement is erroneous.

[03SILVERSTREAK]

I only hope that we all can move foward and can put our diffrences aside and hope that the decission made yesterday is the right one.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! :flag:

[SC Cheesehead]

Blues brothers in the Caymans?
I like it!

Hey, c'mon down, we'll start our own taxi company.:lol: