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J D

12-30-2008, 12:24 AM

bashing? More like correct, the 4.6 is way to small and a 3spd w/ overdrive is just dumb.

Ford failed yet again

That's probably why he said hammered . . . its not bashing if its true . . . and isn't it a 4speed or is that where the O/D comes in? That would explain why my parent's honda goes 1 2 D(3) D(4).

SID210SA

12-30-2008, 06:35 AM

bashing? More like correct, the 4.6 is way to small and a 3spd w/ overdrive is just dumb.

Ford failed yet again

If you think the Marauder is such a failure, then why do you have one....I believe it could have been better designed....had more options....but I dont think by any stretch of the imagination that this car is a failure....

just my .02

Egon Spengler

12-30-2008, 06:57 AM

SC Cheesehead

12-30-2008, 07:05 AM

I hate to agree... but then again, looking underneath my car and hearing the stories of how these chassis have saved so many lives... I would rather have a fairly quick car that is a tank than a really quick car that I could die in... especially the way I drive!!!!

+1 on that!

Ms. CH is still around thanks to the strength and design of the "aged" Panther platform of our DTR.

Marauders aren't the cars for everybody, but those that have them certainly appreciate them for what the are, big, comfortable, and fast for their size.

Aren Jay

12-30-2008, 07:55 AM

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Joe Walsh

12-30-2008, 08:09 AM

I liked, and would want to own, most of the vehicles that they had listed.

They are almost all SLEEPERS!
If you don't like the deficiencies that each vehicle has, then you MOD it!

BTW: I raced a Shelby GLHS on the DC Beltway 'back in the day' and those little Omnis could MOVE!
My 85 GT did 138 mph, that GLHS did @ 137 mph...as I slowwwwwwly pulled him in 5th gear.
The loudest noise in my Mustang at WOT/138 mph was my girlfriend SCREAMING at me to STOP!....:D

O's Fan Rich

12-30-2008, 08:22 AM

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The loudest noise in my Mustang at WOT/138 mph was my girlfriend SCREAMING at me to STOP!....:D

Yeah, she did like to scream......:banana::banana::b anana:

Joe Walsh

12-30-2008, 08:23 AM

Yeah, she did like to scream......:banana::banana::b anana:

"STOP!".....The car that is....:o

Stranger in the Black Sedan

12-30-2008, 08:27 AM

I wonder if the photo comment for the MM is someone from this site

Vortech347

12-30-2008, 08:30 AM

And you can fit you're mustangs SBF in the trunk if you need too. I couldn't do that with an M5. :)

dpotter

12-30-2008, 08:31 AM

I still think the MM should have used the 03-04 forged Cobra motor with the blower from the factory. Minor suspension mods would have been good too.

Black Dynamite

12-30-2008, 09:12 AM

There are a lot of "woulda-coulda-shouldas" with the MM. We all have a list of things we would have changed with the car. I think overall the car came out great however.

You know what I hate about these kinds of lists? If you don't like it, don't buy it. There's no need to fault someone who who did buy it because they liked it.

RF Overlord

12-30-2008, 09:17 AM

and isn't it a 4speed or is that where the O/D comes in?To be hyper-technical and OCD, the 4R70W is a 3-speed with overdrive because "3rd" is 1:1 and "4th" is 0.7:1. To be truly a 4-speed, "4th" would be 1:1 and there would be 3 higher ratios.

Unfortunately marketing wonks have played with semantics for so long that the true definitions have become blurred.

J D

12-30-2008, 01:31 PM

To be hyper-technical and OCD, the 4R70W is a 3-speed with overdrive because "3rd" is 1:1 and "4th" is 0.7:1. To be truly a 4-speed, "4th" would be 1:1 and there would be 3 higher ratios.

Unfortunately marketing wonks have played with semantics for so long that the true definitions have become blurred.

THANK you, I always wondered how it worked exactly.

Also there's a difference between blindly loving your car, and understanding it for its strengths and weaknesses, its beauty and its ugliness. And it seems that every time our car makes a list 4 out of 5 times its probably going to be because of the negatives.

Aren Jay

12-30-2008, 01:35 PM

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offroadkarter

12-30-2008, 07:00 PM

If you think the Marauder is such a failure, then why do you have one....I believe it could have been better designed....had more options....but I dont think by any stretch of the imagination that this car is a failure....

just my .02

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

TAKEDOWN

12-30-2008, 07:01 PM

I say again... SCREW HIM!

DOOM

12-30-2008, 07:14 PM

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

Sell your car then.

DOOM

12-30-2008, 07:16 PM

I say again... SCREW HIM!

Takedown :high5:

jvillerauder

12-30-2008, 07:22 PM

before you go and blame ford for not going for the marauders full potential due to the cafe standards that regulate mpg for all american made cars and i believe had an impact on the bean counters .the suv was so popular with the auto company was in part due to the unregulated truck fuel economy laws and were profitable for automobile manufacturers to produce untill fuel prices rose and demand fell

offroadkarter

12-30-2008, 07:30 PM

Sell your car then.

and loose 10 grand? no thanks, ill just wait for a certain used roots blower to become available

Peter

12-30-2008, 08:51 PM

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

‘Cause Elana Ford thought it had to much testosterone for the Mercury line.

Fourth Horseman

12-30-2008, 09:11 PM

From the very beginning, and for me that was in 1999 when I read in Hot Rod magazine about the possibility of Ford building this car, I saw it as a platform to build what I wanted. I don't think you'll find too many people that think 281ci is enough displacement for such a heavy car, but with the DOHC heads it was a good candidate for forced induction. There's lots of things like that which make it a really good base to build upon, in my opinion. And let's face it, with as long as Ford has been hemorrhaging money I think it's a small miracle the car got produced at all.

larryo340

12-30-2008, 09:41 PM

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

:dunno: maybe very poor to non existent marketing.

252life

12-30-2008, 11:12 PM

:dunno: maybe very poor to non existent marketing.

That's true and the fact that it was only sold in North America. Judging buy the positive reaction I get from my car here, Ford could have sold many Marauders here.

There actually are many people like me over here that prefer an "old school" uncomplicated and strong car, and the Marauder is built like a tank compared to most cars.
For example that it has a 3-speed plus overdrive. It can take a lot of miles and abuse, and if necessary it's cheap to replace or rebuild.
If you have a BMW then you better get ready to take out a bank loan if the gearbox breaks.

Or think off the horror if Ford hadn't used the "aging Panther platform"
Maybe we have a Marauder with a V6 and front wheel drive...

Pat

12-31-2008, 02:23 AM

Your Marauder story can be as positive as you make it.

I accomplished my goal of overcoming the low end limitations of this car through the efforts of a small, dedicated group of men who found or invented the products and tuning that make the Marauder a truly high performance machine that glorifies it's namesake.

I drive a big, powerful, agressive, Marauder.

Joe Walsh

12-31-2008, 05:11 AM

That's true and the fact that it was only sold in North America. Judging buy the positive reaction I get from my car here, Ford could have sold many Marauders here.

There actually are many people like me over here that prefer an "old school" uncomplicated and strong car, and the Marauder is built like a tank compared to most cars.
For example that it has a 3-speed plus overdrive. It can take a lot of miles and abuse, and if necessary it's cheap to replace or rebuild.
If you have a BMW then you better get ready to take out a bank loan if the gearbox breaks.

Or think off the horror if Ford hadn't used the "aging Panther platform"
Maybe we have a Marauder with a V6 and front wheel drive...

I agree, To me, a Big body-on-frame platform is a PLUS....not a negative!
That review is by, and for, wimps & weenies who love their Honda Civics and Toyota Prius'....:puke:

"Oh dear Biff!!!! That car SPUN his tires in a retched display of power and gasoline waste!"

SID210SA

12-31-2008, 06:30 AM

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

Look....we can go at this all day....the car was not a failure....the advertising was...most people dont even know about the car....but when they see it they are like "wow....where can I get one" or "awesome car" Stuff like that is all I have ever heard.....I haven't heard anything like damn that car sucks or it a POS.....maybe you have....but my question still stands....if you so believe that the Marauder is such a failure, then why do you have one?

DTRMiguel

12-31-2008, 06:35 AM

If its a failure.. the question is not why dont u sell it the question is why did u ever buy it? :confused:. Who buys a car they do not like??????:help:

offroadkarter

12-31-2008, 06:41 AM

if you so believe that the Marauder is such a failure, then why do you have one?

im not to sure why i did anymore :confused::(

SID210SA

12-31-2008, 07:12 AM

im not to sure why i did anymore :confused::(

Honest question: Did you research the car before you bought it....you did buy it used, correct? I am just guessing, but it looks like you bought the car 3 years after they stopped production....plenty of time figure out the car was a failure before you bought it I think....and why put more money into such a failure of a car (ie...adding a certain used roots blower)? Wouldnt you want to cut your losses? And yet you seem to be so proud of your car with you pics and sig....what gives???

Joe Walsh

12-31-2008, 07:32 AM

Me thinks that offroadkarter is 'baiting' you....

SID210SA

12-31-2008, 08:53 AM

Me thinks that offroadkarter is 'baiting' you....

Gotcha!!:cool:

offroadkarter

12-31-2008, 10:03 AM

Me thinks that offroadkarter is 'baiting' you....

Im just in one of those stupid pick a interweb fight moods again :o

SID210SA

12-31-2008, 10:09 AM

Is that why you have public enemy #1 under your user name???:D

Fourth Horseman

12-31-2008, 01:14 PM

im not to sure why i did anymore :confused::(

I promise to give your car a good home and take really good care of it. I mean, since you don't really like it and all. ;)

offroadkarter

12-31-2008, 01:45 PM

Is that why you have public enemy #1 under your user name???:D

Well partly, i also did ruin zack's trilogy 33 raffle by telling everyone someone was buying the car. :o

rumble

01-03-2009, 08:37 PM

If it werent a failure, why isnt it still produced and sold today :confused:

Thought so

Mercury was all set to price the car at $29,995 but then they got a bunch of greedy dumb azz dealers together who said "lets sell it for $35K". Steve Babcock said at MV1 that at $35K they should have sold it with a super charger. Actually in 04 they did have it slated to come with the S/C (0-60 in 5.5 seconds stock) but good ole Elena killed it off.

Does anyone doubt that a $35K super charged MM wouldn't have sold like whisky in Ireland?

Dragcity

01-03-2009, 08:59 PM

I like that it FAILED and I own one.

* . * . *. * . those who don't feel that way. 'Cause that is the way I feel!

DOOM

01-03-2009, 09:14 PM

I like that it FAILED and I own one.

* . * . *. * . those who don't feel that way. 'Cause that is the way I feel!

Well said :up:

MM03MOK

01-03-2009, 09:32 PM

Please!! You've all been asked to stop swearing and trying to sidestep the censor. Just stop it, please??? Find another word. Learn to better express yourself.

Master

01-03-2009, 10:00 PM

I bought it because it was most like my all time favourite car, my 86 Mustang. Crude, Rude and Fun, with a dash of sloppy quality control; only bigger.

I love the wording here - sloppy quality control. At first, I had about 3 or 4 things go wrong with the car. In each case, though, Ford fixed the offending item immediately and without question. Each fix was effective and permanent. Since then, I've done a lot to the car that would / should have voided the warranty, and yet it still runs without so much as a hiccup.

My opinion is that for the money I paid, I was given a super tough car with all the parts needed to make it whatever each individual purchaser wanted. All-engine 500hp car, supercharged 700hp car, stock car with handling mods, braking mods, dress-up bits and so on.

We bought a platform, not a finished product. I got exactly what I expected and have been having a blast ever since!

Robert 96

01-04-2009, 05:47 AM

I liked the car from the start because it reminded me of the big old muscle cars of years gone by. Back in the glory days most of the muscle cars were pretty big by todays standards. Sure they could have done some things to spice it up a bit, but I'll take that big old Panther platform anyday. I had a 1970 Dodge Super Bee 440/six pack 4spd. car, and it was a pretty darn big car.

Ms. Denmark

01-04-2009, 08:21 AM

Mercury was all set to price the car at $29,995 but then they got a bunch of greedy dumb azz dealers together who said "lets sell it for $35K". Steve Babcock said at MV1 that at $35K they should have sold it with a super charger. Actually in 04 they did have it slated to come with the S/C (0-60 in 5.5 seconds stock) but good ole Elena killed it off.

Does anyone doubt that a $35K super charged MM wouldn't have sold like whisky in Ireland?I was holding out for the super charged version! Would have traded mine in a heart beat if they had produced one. Ford didn't market this car. Even our L/M dealer knew almost nothing about it. We basically educated him. Ours was the only one ordered/sold from that dealership.

james79stang

01-04-2009, 09:59 AM

I watched as this car was referenced as a car they were going to produced... i sent a e-mail off that I would be in line if they did the 4.6 DOHC S/C... they didn't so i waited a little to buy... (as like most car I did buy).. I didn't like it just as it came.. as for the owner's of other HP models and brands.. like the 8 different mustang's I have owned.. most did something to enhance performance and looks.. well i did a little tune and a hood... (As a side note.. I do keep a eye out with the ones offering to sell there's.. incase of a situation that that requires a replacement...)

rumble

01-06-2009, 08:53 PM

I was holding out for the super charged version! Would have traded mine in a heart beat if they had produced one.

Steve Babcock also said at that time "that FMC engineers said that the cylinders wouldn't hold a supercharger but of course we found out later that was wrong"

The man definitely had the right idea. A big black aggressive ride with gobs of horsepower.
What's not to like?