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Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 08:50 AM
I Have to finally let the cat out of the bag and report that Blackmobile has gone to Marauder heaven. Just before the holidays, while coming from a friend’s house, control was lost and it spun out, off the road and into a tree. I find it very hard to write this but because of all the help I've had from members here I feel it's best to step up and clear the air rather than just hiding in the background. I've heard it stated, it is just a car, but to me if felt more like loosing a very close friend, and the loss has left a seriously big hole in my heart. The good news is the Marauder let me walk away with virtually no injuries, but at the cost of almost every body panel being twisted.
Ed
SC Cheesehead
01-06-2009, 08:54 AM
I Have to finally let the cat out of the bag and report that Blackmobile has gone to Marauder heaven. Just before the holidays, while coming from a friend’s house, control was lost and it spun out, off the road and into a tree. I find it very hard to write this but because of all the help I've had from members here I feel it's best to step up and clear the air rather than just hiding in the background. I've heard it stated, it is just a car, but to me if felt more like loosing a very close friend, and the loss has left a seriously big hole in my heart. The good news is the Marauder let me walk away with virtually no injuries, but at the cost of almost every body panel being twisted.
Ed
Dang, Eddie, that sucks!
Glad to hear you're okay; another example of the strength and integrity of the Panther platform.
Sorry to hear about Blackmobile, glad to hear your OK. Well, with the settlement money you may wish to shop the Marauder "for sale" forum(s) and acquire a replacement.
Good luck,
Bluerauder
01-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Sorry to hear this. :o Glad that you came out of this OK. :up: Now go out and get another one.
O's Fan Rich
01-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Dang, that is a real shame. Glad everyone was ok.
You just got the new motor and all, too.
Look for another one to "adopt".... like Rich's, maybe?
Not to be morbid, but if the motor is available.... please let me/us know.
scoutrjp
01-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Sorry to hear this Ed. I know you put alot of time & heart into that car. You WILL get another & your world will be right again.
Thunderace
01-06-2009, 09:05 AM
sorry to hear of your loss,glad your ok,are you going to look for another mm?
jgc61sr2002
01-06-2009, 09:07 AM
Ed - Sorry about your Marauder. :( Glad you are OK.:D
Sorry tp hear about this Ed! Glad you are OK. Good luck with the future decisions you need to make. I know it will not be easy to decide what to do!
John :)
Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 09:19 AM
Dang, that is a real shame. Glad everyone was ok.
You just got the new motor and all, too.
Look for another one to "adopt".... like Rich's, maybe?
Not to be morbid, but if the motor is available.... please let me/us know.
To get the motor I have to buy back the corpse, but I have no place to store it, so I'll have to let it go. :bigcry:
a_d_a_m
01-06-2009, 09:19 AM
sorry to hear about this.
+1 on "any thought on buying another one?"
bigmerc2003
01-06-2009, 09:21 AM
Glad to hear you are OK, our cars our like our body-guards, it is sad to see them when they have to take a bullet for us and not make it.
Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 09:23 AM
sorry to hear of your loss,glad your ok,are you going to look for another mm?
Undesided!!!
Sorry tp hear about this Ed! Glad you are OK. Good luck with the future decisions you need to make. I know it will not be easy to decide what to do!
John :)
You hit the nail on the head John, thanks.
Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 09:26 AM
Crazy thing is, After the impact I tried to start it back up, but it wouldn't. Then I jumped out popped the trunk and reset the fuel modual, and then started it, but it wouldn't move. Then I got back out and went to the passenger side and said......D#$*....it's toast.
MM03MOK
01-06-2009, 09:27 AM
My heart skipped a beat in reading this, Ed. I'm so glad Blackmobile did her job in protecting you from harm. She will always be in your heart.
offroadkarter
01-06-2009, 09:29 AM
To get the motor I have to buy back the corpse, but I have no place to store it, so I'll have to let it go. :bigcry:
oh no no no keep it in the garage for a few days or something but don't lose all your hard work
Embassy
01-06-2009, 09:31 AM
Glad to hear you are OK, our cars our like our body-guards, it is sad to see them when they have to take a bullet for us and not make it.
Well said.
Glad you are ok.
RoyLPita
01-06-2009, 09:40 AM
As long as you made it out of this unscathed, it is all that matters. Now see what is available for to buy and have as "Blackmobile 2".
Blown3.8
01-06-2009, 09:42 AM
Dude, sorry to hear this. Glad your ok! They hold up well in a crash.
Do not let the engine go, buy it back if you have the money. Someone has got to have a place you can keep it for awhile.
Thunderace
01-06-2009, 09:43 AM
i hate to admit of the thought of selling our '03 mm we love it,but i really want a new bike next year,us keep us posted if you start looking.also did your ins.company treat you fair?
Dragcity
01-06-2009, 09:51 AM
My condolences. Glad you are in good health though.
What a pisser.
Dr Caleb
01-06-2009, 10:00 AM
Duude! Sorry to hear of this. At least it was an honourable death.
Hope you decide to get back in the saddle again.
FordNut
01-06-2009, 10:25 AM
Bummer. Sorry to hear of another SSM Marauder loss. Glad you're ok.
ImpalaSlayer
01-06-2009, 10:33 AM
i know im all the way on the up in DE, but i have 300 acres i could store it no problem
Vortech347
01-06-2009, 10:41 AM
No worries!!! You have your health. I'm sure your family is greatful.
Marauder values have tanked lately so you should be able to get a replacement pretty cheap. Infact you may find something better. :) Selling my first MM was really hard because as much as I hated the paint it was one car I truely loved. But the new one I got was better and love it more.
You should find it at steal the wheels if they are in good shape. LOL
Hotrauder
01-06-2009, 10:41 AM
Ed, I am really sorry to read this as I know how much you loved the Blackmobile. It is comforting to know that you are ok and she did her job. How much do they want for the corpse? I believe with Rich and the others that it well worth salvaging. Hang in there, Ed. When it is time you will know what to do. Dennis
Embassy
01-06-2009, 10:51 AM
As long as you made it out of this unscathed, it is all that matters. Now see what is available for to buy and have as "Blackmobile 2".
Have you added the VIN to the KIA list?
Dennis Reinhart
01-06-2009, 10:52 AM
To get the motor I have to buy back the corpse, but I have no place to store it, so I'll have to let it go. :bigcry:
I will have the car sent here and strip it for you
Marylandrauder
01-06-2009, 11:04 AM
:(Sorry for your loss-perhaps the strength of the Panther platform is why you see our $50 billion crook riding around in a silver MGM! He may be reading our posts?
O's Fan Rich
01-06-2009, 11:30 AM
I will have the car sent here and strip it for you
Now that's a good idea, Eddie!
Then you've got the motor and stuff for "future use".
NATEHAWK
01-06-2009, 11:35 AM
Sorry for your loss man I been there before with my first MM. I wasn't even driving it but I watched from my other car as it spun and went into a tree in a ditch. It's not a pretty site. But I got another and this one is bigger blacker and better. Get another one man.
Local Boy
01-06-2009, 11:39 AM
Sorry to hear Ed...
Glad YOU are OK!
Let DR help...Hope you can save some of her...
ALOHA
MMMAN
01-06-2009, 11:42 AM
Ed everything happens for a reason and I know you have been down on luck lately. Perhaps you will find another MM that you'll like better, but please go with another Rauder. remember it's more than just owning a car.
MarauderTJA
01-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Good to talk to you today Ed. Most important is you are OK. We'll figure something out for you I'm sure. Your too important to the Marauder community.
TiTo35
01-06-2009, 12:37 PM
As long you are ok...thats MOST that matters... :hmmm: Isn't imagindat car still for sale???
Glad to hear this was something you could walk away from.
ckadiddle
01-06-2009, 01:21 PM
Sorry to hear it. I remember how I felt when Blue Thunder attempted to mate with the rear end of a Ford Explorer.
Apparently the two species are NOT compatible.
It still makes me kind of sick to remember how it looked.
Glad you came out of it OK, that's why I drive this platform even in the face of four dollar gasoline. You cannot put a dollar price on your life and limbs.
Blackened300a
01-06-2009, 01:21 PM
Awwwwwww after just getting the engine and putting it back on the road. Glad you are in one piece to post about it.
Black_Noise
01-06-2009, 04:55 PM
screw "close friend" its like loosing a child
sorry to hear about it
Cobra25
01-06-2009, 04:56 PM
ED you know how I feel about what happened. The main thing is that no one got hurt. You made alot of friends here within the group and outside the group who truly care and that will not change. What ever you do at this point we will respect, nothing change's.
airborne_mp84
01-06-2009, 04:57 PM
sorry to here that bud, its time to start looking for another MM man
gonzo50
01-06-2009, 05:21 PM
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate accident and lost,:( all that matters is that you're doing fine and in good health.;) Stay safe.
Take some time to think things over, it's your decision on what happens next. "Good Luck".:)
94_302
01-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Sorry to hear that, but glad you are ok.
:( Truly a crappy deal, except for the part about you being okay.
ChiTownMaraud3r
01-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Horrible tragedy. Glad to hear it did a fine job protecting you upon impact.
Does this mean I don't get to stare at your sig anymore? :depress:
n00bkiller944
01-06-2009, 06:09 PM
Sorry to hear about this man!!! You really should buy it back to get your engine and maybe make some money off the parts... How much do they want for you to buy it back?
As if you don't mind me asking what were the conditions like that caused the accident? And i find it amazing that it kept you so safe that you can climb out and be absolutely fine! What a great car!
whd507
01-06-2009, 06:26 PM
in a wreck like that would a WRX have done as well? nope. glad your OK, it was decided when you first bought her. she did her job, but its not over yet. In a car like this you will almost always be dollars ahead buying it back and selling it on this site, or to your area buddies.
I hope you get back in the saddle soon...
frdwrnch
01-06-2009, 06:27 PM
I had a similar incident (acccident) recently and know how you feel. I am glad you were relatively unscathed. These are very safe cars and I hope you consider that when evaluating a replacement. I drove a new Mustang and it just did not feel right. I lucked out and bought Bootlegger's car. I think I made the right choice for me. Good luck to you.
Master
01-06-2009, 06:28 PM
Boy, I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune. Condolences from Canada, Sir. I'm with the collective, though. Let DR salvage and part her for you. She should go to the family and not some rat who just wants bits and pieces without ever knowing the glory of her life.
Yeah, melodramatic, but you get the idea.
PS
I can't get to Florida to pick up my car till the end of March now, so there may be a Black MM at DRs shop that you can go drive now and then just to remind yourself what you are missing. Maybe coax you back into the saddle. Oh, can you drive a stick? :)
rayjay
01-06-2009, 06:31 PM
Glad to hear you are physically ok. I was sick last summer when I hit a deer and saw the damage. I can only imagine what I'd felt if it was totalled. :(
TAKEDOWN
01-06-2009, 07:14 PM
Well... I'm glad you're okay, but I can't even imagine how you feel! Is there a new one in the future?
Aren Jay
01-06-2009, 07:21 PM
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BigCars4Ever
01-06-2009, 07:26 PM
Been there, did that, have the T-shirt!
1stMerc
01-06-2009, 07:58 PM
Sorry to get the news Ed, but glad you're okay. Between you and Dennis you can work something out so the insurance company doesn't get all your hard work.
Way to go Dennis.
Rocknthehawk
01-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Sorry to get the news Ed, but glad you're okay. Between you and Dennis you can work something out so the insurance company doesn't get all your hard work.
Way to go Dennis.
Big :thumbsup: to DR.
You know...if you felt like changing your username....there's a BLUESMOBILE for sale in Massachusetts....
I'll be first to volunteer a personal inspection/report if you wanted to go that route.
Wow...................Is this a bad dream?
Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 09:11 PM
Thanks for the Condolences, and the kind words, but it appears I'm SOL about buying the car back from the insurance co. because it had a lienholder and they payed them off already. If I had owned the car out right then I would have had the ability to buy it back right away. So now it must go to auction and to buy it there. But I can't because it won't be a public auction,you must be a dealer. So I'm looking into contacting a dealer known to a friend here, to be able to buy it at the auction for me. This will take about 3 weeks or so as what I've been told.
Ed
Blown3.8
01-06-2009, 09:18 PM
Hope it works out for you.
Aren Jay
01-06-2009, 09:48 PM
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Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 09:53 PM
:beatnik: I did but I couldn't meet his time line, because I haven't been paid my equity in the vehicle yet.
Blackmobile
01-06-2009, 10:17 PM
I know these the last shot at the yard needed to be seen.
It looks worse in person. :bigcry:This isn't just an icon, it DID happen :bigcry:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=288
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=287
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=286
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=285
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=46&pictureid=284
hot-rauder
01-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Wow Ed!!
Those pics are not easy to look at, especially because we all know how much you love the Blackmobile.....
Best of luck to you in your venture for another ride, no matter what it may be. ( New G8 is purrdy ;) )
Is that you CV sport next to your MM in the pics?
holidays, while coming from a friend’s house, control was lost and it spun out, off the road and into a tree.
This scenario has played out many times as reported by Marauder owners.
I know of at least two parties here in my small town that have said they suddenly lost control, spun out and crashed into trees, embankments or other immovable objects and totaled the car.
I wondering what is it that causes this phenomena? One party was an LEO with plenty of high speed driving experience. We don't have snow, just rain.
Thus far my driving experience has been conservative and the car hasn't exhibited any tendencies to get "loose", always felt rock solid even in the rain.
Marauderjack
01-07-2009, 05:11 AM
This scenario has played out many times as reported by Marauder owners.
I know of at least two parties here in my small town that have said they suddenly lost control, spun out and crashed into trees, embankments or other immovable objects and totaled the car.
I wondering what is it that causes this phenomena? One party was an LEO with plenty of high speed driving experience. We don't have snow, just rain.
Thus far my driving experience has been conservative and the car hasn't exhibited any tendencies to get "loose", always felt rock solid even in the rain.
Blower + speed + unpredictable up/down shifts + rain has caused me to "Get Outta Shape" on several occasions!!!:eek::shake: I've been lucky in that I have recovered it each time AND swear I will be more careful but it's tough to remember until ya start sliding again!!!:cool:
Glad you are OK "blackmobile" and hope you can get her back.....the engine and drive train will be worth a lot to ya!!:beer:
Marauderjack:burnout:
Raudermaster
01-07-2009, 09:09 AM
Wow Ed sorry to hear! I can't believe that. After all the work that was put into that thing too. Can you at least pull the motor/blower?
TAKEDOWN
01-07-2009, 10:16 AM
OuCh! Wow I'm getting dizzy looking at those pictures, more important is that you're alive and well. Will you be purchasing another MARAUDER in the future?
Local Boy
01-07-2009, 11:05 AM
Marauderjack just nailed it on the head!...Quote:
Originally Posted by pat http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=701146#post70 1146)
This scenario has played out many times as reported by Marauder owners.
I know of at least two parties here in my small town that have said they suddenly lost control, spun out and crashed into trees, embankments or other immovable objects and totaled the car.
I wondering what is it that causes this phenomena? One party was an LEO with plenty of high speed driving experience. We don't have snow, just rain.
Thus far my driving experience has been conservative and the car hasn't exhibited any tendencies to get "loose", always felt rock solid even in the rain.
Blower + speed + unpredictable up/down shifts + rain has caused me to "Get Outta Shape" on several occasions!!!:eek::shake: I've been lucky in that I have recovered it each time AND swear I will be more careful but it's tough to remember until ya start sliding again!!!:cool:
That's IT... in a nut shell right there!
For me, I would add un-even road surfaces to that equation...I've found this to be the most prevalent factor in most of my Side-ways Adventures!
ALOHA
Marauderjack
01-07-2009, 03:57 PM
Marauderjack just nailed it on the head!...Quote:
Originally Posted by pat http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=701146#post70 1146)
This scenario has played out many times as reported by Marauder owners.
I know of at least two parties here in my small town that have said they suddenly lost control, spun out and crashed into trees, embankments or other immovable objects and totaled the car.
I wondering what is it that causes this phenomena? One party was an LEO with plenty of high speed driving experience. We don't have snow, just rain.
Thus far my driving experience has been conservative and the car hasn't exhibited any tendencies to get "loose", always felt rock solid even in the rain.
Blower + speed + unpredictable up/down shifts + rain has caused me to "Get Outta Shape" on several occasions!!!:eek::shake: I've been lucky in that I have recovered it each time AND swear I will be more careful but it's tough to remember until ya start sliding again!!!:cool:
That's IT... in a nut shell right there!
For me, I would add un-even road surfaces to that equation...I've found this to be the most prevalent factor in most of my Side-ways Adventures!
ALOHA
Amen Brutha.....ALOHA!!!:D
TAKEDOWN
01-07-2009, 04:02 PM
Marauderjack just nailed it on the head!...Quote:
Originally Posted by pat http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=701146#post70 1146)
This scenario has played out many times as reported by Marauder owners.
I know of at least two parties here in my small town that have said they suddenly lost control, spun out and crashed into trees, embankments or other immovable objects and totaled the car.
I wondering what is it that causes this phenomena? One party was an LEO with plenty of high speed driving experience. We don't have snow, just rain.
Thus far my driving experience has been conservative and the car hasn't exhibited any tendencies to get "loose", always felt rock solid even in the rain.
Blower + speed + unpredictable up/down shifts + rain has caused me to "Get Outta Shape" on several occasions!!!:eek::shake: I've been lucky in that I have recovered it each time AND swear I will be more careful but it's tough to remember until ya start sliding again!!!:cool:
That's IT... in a nut shell right there!
For me, I would add un-even road surfaces to that equation...I've found this to be the most prevalent factor in most of my Side-ways Adventures!
ALOHA
Localboy your problem is confusing driving with surfing! LOL... I've heard your stories, you be safe out there!
Blackened300a
01-07-2009, 05:05 PM
OUCH!!! Thats totalled. Hope you get a chance to pull the blower off.
Raudermaster
01-07-2009, 06:04 PM
OUCH!!! Thats totalled. Hope you get a chance to pull the blower off.
And motor! I believe he now has an Al Pappito block in it.
Raudermaster
01-07-2009, 06:07 PM
Not so side track or anything, but Paul how is the Cobra VIII doing?
Blackmobile
01-07-2009, 06:10 PM
Wow Ed sorry to hear! I can't believe that. After all the work that was put into that thing too. Can you at least pull the motor/blower?
The engine I couldn't do much about, but the blower and the Majority of the parts are here next to me in the dinning room. It wasn't easy to get then to let me take it off though, but I got it.
Raudermaster
01-07-2009, 07:09 PM
That's too bad. Do you plan to buy another MM?
justbob
01-07-2009, 07:25 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss. They actually let you take some parts off?
Blackmobile
01-07-2009, 07:59 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss. They actually let you take some parts off?
I just kept telling the adjuster I'll leave all the parts on, just cut me a check for 5G's more. they then let me take the parts off.
TAKEDOWN
01-07-2009, 08:01 PM
Are we gonna get another Marauder?
Dark_Knight7096
01-07-2009, 09:26 PM
Dude, I'm sorry man, I know how much this sucks. All the best for you.
Blackmobile
01-07-2009, 09:30 PM
Are we gonna get another Marauder?
Undecided??????????
Georges93LX
01-07-2009, 10:58 PM
Sorry for loss. That's a crying shame. I have to ask. What did you hit that would rip out the front suspension?
the_pack_rat
01-07-2009, 11:13 PM
Sorry to hear about this Ed.
Glad to see the car did its job in protecting you tho.
knine
01-07-2009, 11:58 PM
Undecided??????????
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48378
Blackmobile
01-08-2009, 09:52 AM
Sorry for loss. That's a crying shame. I have to ask. What did you hit that would rip out the front suspension?
My mother told me a story years ago about how a tree jumped out in front of her and then dragged the car all the way back to the ditch........When I explained my incident to her, I told her the tree is still out there doing the same think. LOL
Caught a curb with both passenger wheels going sideways, and was stopped by a tree. The curb took out the wheels and momentum carried me into the tree. The end result shifted the body from the frame.
Ed
Blackened300a
01-08-2009, 09:57 AM
Not so side track or anything, but Paul how is the Cobra VIII doing?
Slow! MY friend went on vacation so I dont have the computer to get it running. Right now the airbags have been the biggest headache. We are trying to figure out how to get the car off the ground to put it on the lift.
Plus its been nasty weather out here so working outside has been out of the question.
Yo Vic
01-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Get up, stand tall, brush the dirt of your shoulders, salute it to Marauder heaven and rebirth another Marauder needing a home! Batman had more than one Batmobile...... so can the Blackmobile!
P.S. Glad you are safe.
SC Cheesehead
01-08-2009, 11:44 AM
Get up, stand tall, brush the dirt of your shoulders, salute it to Marauder heaven and rebirth another Marauder needing a home! Batman had more than one Batmobile...... so can the Blackmobile!
P.S. Glad you are safe.
:hijack:Sorry to hijack the thread, Eddie, but need to do a shout-out to Yo Vic. Hey, you coming to Louisville in April?
sweetair
01-08-2009, 12:12 PM
just saw this. So sorry. Go look on the MCM site. There is a 2003 B w/5054 miles for sale there. 21K is the asking price.
Ms. Denmark
01-08-2009, 05:36 PM
As long as you made it out of this unscathed, it is all that matters. Now see what is available for to buy and have as "Blackmobile 2"...... Or SilverBirchmobile ;) My heart goes out to you over this tragic loss of your beloved car. I truly can imagine how you must feel. I think almost every member here can. As all have said, thank goodness the car spared you from injury. A true friend to the very end.
cougar9150
01-08-2009, 07:07 PM
My condolences on your loss.
It doesn't even take the SC to get the rear end out. I have 4.10s w/a tune and I almost did it a few time.
Good luck with whatever you plan on doing in the future, Marauder or not I'm sure you will have another beast soon enough.
ImpalaSlayer
01-08-2009, 08:19 PM
im sure he coulda stored it for ya!
here (http://www.jonesbigasstruckrentalands torage.com/)
:rofl: :laugh:
Blackmobile
01-08-2009, 09:26 PM
im sure he coulda stored it for ya!
here (http://www.jonesbigasstruckrentalands torage.com/)
:rofl: :laugh:
Now THAT was funny! :up:
arejayesss
01-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Ed, I just saw this and cannot believe this. All the work you put into it!! OMG Well, as everyone has said, your well-being is the most important thing. Eddie can get another Marauder, but we can't get another Eddie!! See you soon.
cvpiftw
01-10-2009, 11:33 PM
A marauder can be found again, born, rehabed, whatever need be, no matter what shape, someone will have one. We cant replace you. The car did a great job keeping you in one peice my friend, and i wish the best of luck for the next car.
TooManyFords
01-11-2009, 08:45 AM
We're all glad you're ok.
But what's the REAL story on how you lost it?
JohnPPD
01-11-2009, 09:59 AM
just saw this. So sorry. Go look on the MCM site. There is a 2003 B w/5054 miles for sale there. 21K is the asking price.
Got another '03 with 5k miles for under $17k.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-%7cE-%7cM-_32_%7cD-_3758_%7cN-N%7cR-30%7cI-1%2c7%7cP-PRICE+descending%7cQ-descending%7cZ-19154&aff=national&paId=299031548&recnum=1&leadExists=true
Blackmobile
01-11-2009, 10:22 AM
We're all glad you're ok.
But what's the REAL story on how you lost it?
I know what you're looking for but it isn't all that complicated. Made a right turn from a light and the rear tires broke loose to the left and grabbed, then broke loose to the right and never grabbed. If you need more of a visual, let me drive yours and I'll show you. :eek:
TooManyFords
01-11-2009, 10:52 AM
I know what you're looking for but it isn't all that complicated. Made a right turn from a light and the rear tires broke loose to the left and grabbed, then broke loose to the right and never grabbed. If you need more of a visual, let me drive yours and I'll show you. :eek:
You don't know what I'm looking for because I'm not looking for anything. But you don't make a right-turn from a stop light and total a car. How fast were you going through that intersection to cause a simple spin-out to total a car?!?
But if you do happen to get that car back, I could use/buy that piece of plastic that is the cup-holders and goes around the shifter.
:D
Hope you can get it back to build another.
Cheers
John
Blackmobile
01-11-2009, 11:23 AM
You don't know what I'm looking for because I'm not looking for anything. But you don't make a right-turn from a stop light and total a car. How fast were you going through that intersection to cause a simple spin-out to total a car?!?
But if you do happen to get that car back, I could use/buy that piece of plastic that is the cup-holders and goes around the shifter.
:D
Hope you can get it back to build another.
Cheers
John
I'll try to answer you as intelligently as possible....You don't have a speed going thru an intersection after stopping at a STOP light, that's why there was no one around me to hit, thank goodness. And as for what speed I was going upon impact, well I was too busy to look down, while I was trying to straighten the MM out and bracing for impact. The proper question would be how much were you accelerating, and for that answer I'll say "A BIT". And to use the term "A simple spinnout" take yours into a tree right at the A pillar and see how much is rebuildable, but you also have to take out both passenger tires with a curb to prevent any resistance to momentum. As I said before, let me use yours to show you exactly what transpired if you are that curious.
But I digress.
Ed
TooManyFords
01-11-2009, 11:45 AM
Ed, don't take this too personal, but there is no way you're ever going to drive my car when it is clear you can't handle one of your own.
This is my personal opinion, just mine, but there is more to this story than you are telling. Either you had a seizure or you were showing off. If it was the former, then I apologize. Otherwise you got what you deserved. Nobody floors it from a stop light making a right turn and expects everything to be "cool". What did you expect was going to happen? Why did you feel the need to accelerate "a BIT" while turning enough to break the rear tires loose?
Nevermind, don't anwer this. Just be happy nobody was injured in your spectacular display of a total loss of judgment and reason. I might recommend a refresher course in drivers ed....
Blackmobile
01-11-2009, 12:02 PM
Ed, don't take this too personal, but there is no way you're ever going to drive my car when it is clear you can't handle one of your own.
This is my personal opinion, just mine, but there is more to this story than you are telling. Either you had a seizure or you were showing off. If it was the former, then I apologize. Otherwise you got what you deserved. Nobody floors it from a stop light making a right turn and expects everything to be "cool". What did you expect was going to happen? Why did you feel the need to accelerate "a BIT" while turning enough to break the rear tires loose?
Nevermind, don't anwer this. Just be happy nobody was injured in your spectacular display of a total loss of judgment and reason. I might recommend a refresher course in drivers ed....
As for your personal opinion, everybody has one, just like a certain part of the human anatomy.....As for your recomendation...I think you know where you can put that...As for more to the story, THAT is what you want to hear...... I'll make something up and email it to you for a good nights reading. Good day Sir.
P.S. if you ever lost your marauder in any fashion, I would still be very sorry for your lose, for I could not wish this on even my enemies.
n3fvg
01-11-2009, 12:09 PM
My 2004 Black Crown Vic P.I. is for sale! Check out the For Sale section on the forum!
hot-rauder
01-11-2009, 05:47 PM
As for your personal opinion, everybody has one, just like a certain part of the human anatomy.....As for your recomendation...I think you know where you can put that...As for more to the story, THAT is what you want to hear...... I'll make something up and email it to you for a good nights reading. Good day Sir.
P.S. if you ever lost your marauder in any fashion, I would still be very sorry for your lose, for I could not wish this on even my enemies.
Well said Ed.
My MM had only an intake and mufflers. The KDW2s were hell to drive on though. Once the broke loose they did not grab, and many times they would slide accelerating. What tires were you running?
Blackmobile
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Well said Ed.
My MM had only an intake and mufflers. The KDW2s were hell to drive on though. Once the broke loose they did not grab, and many times they would slide accelerating. What tires were you running?
YOU JUST MENTIONED THEM!!!! and I didn't have to go anywhere near the floor, for them to break loose. Now I see why they don't make them anymore.........another what if, I got a million of um.
Beamer
01-11-2009, 07:18 PM
sorry to hear about the loss, least you are ok but it does suck a great car past on.
hot-rauder
01-11-2009, 07:39 PM
YOU JUST MENTIONED THEM!!!! and I didn't have to go anywhere near the floor, for them to break loose. Now I see why they don't make them anymore.........another what if, I got a million of um.
I hated them but I got mine for $20.
I have no doubt it had to do with the tires. Jarod had the same problem even before he s/c his car.
Kennyrauder
01-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Ed, I have a 2003 Canadian 300 A .I was talking to Gregg on Thursday & he told me about your accident. If the insurance claim is half decent let me Know . I will deliver my Marauder to you for 19US. My car is pristine with a Reinhart Vortech with many other adds The car has 72K Kilometers which is about 42 K miles.
Blackmobile
01-11-2009, 09:14 PM
Ed, I have a 2003 Canadian 300 A .I was talking to Gregg on Thursday & he told me about your accident. If the insurance claim is half decent let me Know . I will deliver my Marauder to you for 19US. My car is pristine with a Reinhart Vortech with many other adds The car has 72K Kilometers which is about 42 K miles.
That is seriously temping, I'll keep that in mind!
Ed
Motorhead350
01-12-2009, 11:21 AM
I am very sorry for your loss. Mine was crashed three times and "totalled" twice.
1st time I ran over some black ice while doing 60mph on I-94 and ran into a guardrail at 60mph in reverse after the ice spun me around.
2nd time I really cannot get into detail, but let's just say my dad was driving and the car merged with a telephone pole.
3rd time someone rear ended me at a red light, but that was nothing more than a scratch.
Everything will workout and guess what? It already did! You are fine and making decisions. ;)
cvpiftw
01-13-2009, 03:31 AM
lets stop arguing and I think we can all agree that we ae glad that the man is safe. Honestly, think about how bad this could have turned out. We all have done stupid **** in our cars no doubt, but **** happens. If ya don't have something nice to say, don't say it.
Blackmobile
01-29-2009, 03:53 PM
The Ghostrider of Blackmobile may one day rise again. :hide:
Rocknthehawk
01-29-2009, 04:14 PM
oohhhh.....sneaky....
Blackmobile
01-29-2009, 04:24 PM
oohhhh.....sneaky....
Not really, just determined, I just bought the Marauder back (Or what's left of it) at the auction.
1stMerc
01-29-2009, 05:29 PM
Oh, does that mean we'll soon have three 1 off color Marauders in our ranks?
stryker
01-29-2009, 05:49 PM
:( ED, am sorry for the terrible loss of your cared M-Panther I pass the same in jan 15 2009 but my Panther could be restored even the front was totaled it can be healed but it accomplish his mission it protect me from being severily injured and your Panther do it as well but with the tragedy that he died but you're lucky to tell Mang I wish you a speed recovery so you can look and adopt another lonely M-Panther we will remember your Panther.
STRYKER.
rauder775
01-29-2009, 06:39 PM
May I add my sympathies as well. Though, like others, makes me feel even better about the structural qualities of these beasts.
I too vote for another MM for you...once you have had time to mourn. What better way to honor Blackmobile then to create Blackmobile ll ??
stryker
01-29-2009, 06:42 PM
May I add my sympathies as well. Though, like others, makes me feel even better about the structural qualities of these beasts.
I too vote for another MM for you...once you have had time to mourn. What better way to honor Blackmobile then to create Blackmobile ll ??:cool: I second that and even third that.
STRYKER. :burnout:
Blackmobile
02-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Well Mourning time is over and time marches on. Here's the resting place for the time being until I can weigh out all the options. But I will say some of the parts will be going up for sale soon.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/showcase/files/3/9/6/9/photo0003.jpg
FordNut
02-05-2009, 06:19 PM
Good move keeping it and parting out. Pull the motor with blower and find another Marauder with a blown engine. It may take awhile but they come around occasionally.
Blackmobile
02-05-2009, 06:45 PM
That's option #1, and my favorite.:D
a_d_a_m
02-05-2009, 06:50 PM
what about that 200k mile marauder for 6k? drop your motor in that one...
FordNut
02-05-2009, 06:55 PM
And almost anything else on the high mileage car that needs replaced would be handy too!
Bulten Rauder
02-08-2009, 08:13 AM
Ed, don't take this too personal, but there is no way you're ever going to drive my car when it is clear you can't handle one of your own.
This is my personal opinion, just mine, but there is more to this story than you are telling. Either you had a seizure or you were showing off. If it was the former, then I apologize. Otherwise you got what you deserved. Nobody floors it from a stop light making a right turn and expects everything to be "cool". What did you expect was going to happen? Why did you feel the need to accelerate "a BIT" while turning enough to break the rear tires loose?
Nevermind, don't anwer this. Just be happy nobody was injured in your spectacular display of a total loss of judgment and reason. I might recommend a refresher course in drivers ed....
WHAT A COMPLETE KNOB!!!:mad2:
I can't believe anyone would be this ignorant. Keep your opinions to yourself Jack.$$.:mad2::mad2:
It is sad to see anyone wipe out and it happens to the best of us.
WHAT A COMPLETE KNOB!!!:mad2:
I can't believe anyone would be this ignorant. Keep your opinions to yourself Jack.$$.:mad2::mad2:
It is sad to see anyone wipe out and it happens to the best of us.
I took a curve at WOT going 80+ mph, 40 degrees outside with snow tires on. Not a good move.
Car went back and forth about 5 times but I got it back.
Its all in the wrist. :eek:
a_d_a_m
02-08-2009, 08:28 AM
Its all in the wrist.
http://www.dailyredundancy.com/images/freddie_mercury.jpg
(sorry)
TooManyFords
02-08-2009, 08:35 AM
WHAT A COMPLETE KNOB!!!:mad2:
I've been called worse by better, but I respect your opinion. You should do the same.
Glenn
02-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Blackmobile:
Here you go 3 blown motor MMs in Phila. waiting for engines. Go get one!
Glenn
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Sorry to say
I am a senior master tech, who works at Chapman Ford in Philadelphia. I have recently come accross 3 mm's that need motors. All 3 are still sitting in our service lot due to the fact that FOMOCO has a national back order on these RMP motors. Which is not good news. I looked into the reson of why there is a back order and the tech hotline told me that there are so few 4.6L 4v out there that RMP does not get any cores for them. So there is a list of who they go to. The problem with us as a dealer rebuilding them is that you lose the 6yr 100,000 mile warranty you get from RMP, as you do if you buy one from FPG. 3 motors with 3 different problems. 1 has a low end knock, 2nd is locked up, and 3rd the guy drove it overheating so much that he blew the head gaskets and warped the block. All vech are over 100,000 miles and 2 of the have salvaged titles. Most 4.6L 4v and 5.4L 3v engine problems come from the neglect of oil changes, also ford has a TSB stating the fact that aftermarket oil filters are not recomended for these engines and could cause problems due to the very tight clearances, in which it will void your engine warranty. I also have 3 5.4L 3v that I am in the middle of repairing which are all sluged. The moral of my story is change your oil very often and use a motorcraft filter. To save money and not having your mm down in the shop for months. I have some cool pictures of me lifting bodys off the f-series to do motor work and will post them soon.
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Blackmobile
02-08-2009, 03:43 PM
Blackmobile:
Here you go 3 blown motor MMs in Phila. waiting for engines. Go get one!
Glenn
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 4
Sorry to say
I am a senior master tech, who works at Chapman Ford in Philadelphia. I have recently come accross 3 mm's that need motors. All 3 are still sitting in our service lot due to the fact that FOMOCO has a national back order on these RMP motors. Which is not good news. I looked into the reson of why there is a back order and the tech hotline told me that there are so few 4.6L 4v out there that RMP does not get any cores for them. So there is a list of who they go to. The problem with us as a dealer rebuilding them is that you lose the 6yr 100,000 mile warranty you get from RMP, as you do if you buy one from FPG. 3 motors with 3 different problems. 1 has a low end knock, 2nd is locked up, and 3rd the guy drove it overheating so much that he blew the head gaskets and warped the block. All vech are over 100,000 miles and 2 of the have salvaged titles. Most 4.6L 4v and 5.4L 3v engine problems come from the neglect of oil changes, also ford has a TSB stating the fact that aftermarket oil filters are not recomended for these engines and could cause problems due to the very tight clearances, in which it will void your engine warranty. I also have 3 5.4L 3v that I am in the middle of repairing which are all sluged. The moral of my story is change your oil very often and use a motorcraft filter. To save money and not having your mm down in the shop for months. I have some cool pictures of me lifting bodys off the f-series to do motor work and will post them soon.
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Now that is Interesting!!!!!!
rayjay
02-08-2009, 04:03 PM
Now that is Interesting!!!!!!
Go for it!
a_d_a_m
02-08-2009, 04:57 PM
do eeeeeeeeeeet.
RoyLPita
02-10-2009, 11:14 AM
Blackmobile:
Here you go 3 blown motor MMs in Phila. waiting for engines. Go get one!
Glenn
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 4
Sorry to say
I am a senior master tech, who works at Chapman Ford in Philadelphia. I have recently come accross 3 mm's that need motors. All 3 are still sitting in our service lot due to the fact that FOMOCO has a national back order on these RMP motors. Which is not good news. I looked into the reson of why there is a back order and the tech hotline told me that there are so few 4.6L 4v out there that RMP does not get any cores for them. So there is a list of who they go to. The problem with us as a dealer rebuilding them is that you lose the 6yr 100,000 mile warranty you get from RMP, as you do if you buy one from FPG. 3 motors with 3 different problems. 1 has a low end knock, 2nd is locked up, and 3rd the guy drove it overheating so much that he blew the head gaskets and warped the block. All vech are over 100,000 miles and 2 of the have salvaged titles. Most 4.6L 4v and 5.4L 3v engine problems come from the neglect of oil changes, also ford has a TSB stating the fact that aftermarket oil filters are not recomended for these engines and could cause problems due to the very tight clearances, in which it will void your engine warranty. I also have 3 5.4L 3v that I am in the middle of repairing which are all sluged. The moral of my story is change your oil very often and use a motorcraft filter. To save money and not having your mm down in the shop for months. I have some cool pictures of me lifting bodys off the f-series to do motor work and will post them soon.
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Just because they are awaiting motors, it does not mean that they are for sale unless you give them the right price.
ctrlraven
02-10-2009, 11:52 AM
Wow I can't believe I missed this thread, glad to hear you're ok and you got the car back. Hope everything works out!
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