PDA

View Full Version : My (not so) lighly used 32k 03's dirty secret. A comedy.



Odinson
01-09-2009, 05:02 PM
Hi

A couple people have contacted me about the crazy taxi project. Well I haven't had the car for part of that time! Turns out my car had a little more history than I thought. The dealers did a stand up job of making it right, I thought this was the most appropriate place to share it.

To whom it may concern,

It is with great satisfaction that I report that I have had an excellent service experience with my recently purchased Mercury Marauder. I recently purchased this model used car and an a accompanying warranty only to find that it had been in an unreported accident before I purchased it. If it where not for the swift and responsible actions of both Hasset Lincoln Mercury of Wantagh, NY and Webster Dudley Lincoln Mercury of Webster, MA, I would be stuck with a large bank loan on large 8 cylinder breakdown lane time bomb.

I had been looking for a fairly priced used Marauder for some time when I came across the listing for a Marauder with 32,697 miles. Carfax comes back clean. I contacted Tim Eldredge of Webster Dudley LM after asking some questions and negotiating a price, we agreed I would drive up to Webster and purchase the car after an in person inspection and test drive. I drove my aging but dependable 129k 1999 Grand Marquis GS up there with the intent of trading it in for a break on the price.

I inspected the car and test drove it and all seemed well. I signed over the bank check, settled on a 3 year 36k premium care warranty, turned over the keys for 99 (bought from Hasset, BTW) and drove the Marauder home. I mailed Webster the final paperwork and completed the NY registration. I then brought the car to Hasset for NYS inspection. They discovered a leaky shock and rear end seal, but nothing that was beyond the pale for a five year old car.

A month and a half passed. The MM sees use a daily driver. One day in late November I get a check engine light. I am due to go to Hasset anyway to take care of the shock and rear. I schedule an appointment and drop the car off.

I get a call back a day and a half later. It's Ken from Hasset. "Mr Newhall, this car has been in an accident."

Oh God.

The mechanic (I don't know his name) was certain this car has been in an accident. The front bumper and drivers side fender has been replaced. No damage to the frame or engine. The bad part is, main wiring harness had been spliced back together, badly, and needed to be replaced. Hasset (or any other dealer for that matter) won't fix it this way. So I ask, "It's covered under warranty, right?" After all, other than the engine, the catastrophic cost of the main wiring harness is reason why you buy a warranty.

"I'm sorry this is a broken repair from an accident."

Oh God.

It does make perfect sense that this is not Hasset's responsibility. Lets just step back from the fear for a second an look at this situation. I bought this car from a Ford dealer who themselves bought the car at a dealer Ford auction. I, nor Hasset, Nor Webster Dudley, even noticed anything seriously wrong till now. Something is broken inside Fords certification process. I can't start at the beginning, but I could start at my beginning.


I ask them to hold off on repairs, and I call Tim from Webster Dudley. I can hear his jaw drop when I explain this to him. He tells me he is going to try to "make it right" and will get back to me.

So I'm a paranoid chap. I do some digging while I wait. Turns out Mass has an aggressive Lemon law. If a dealer sold car has a safety related failure in the first 90 days or 3k after purchase the consumer has many options. This definitely qualifies.

Tim calls me back. They'll fix it and give me a loaner. I just have to get it to Mass. The next day I limp it up there (there is a bogus overdrive deactivation ghost that required restarting the car to eliminate.) They gave me a Ford Focus for two weeks while they replace the main wiring harness for free. I return the Focus and the Marauder has been trouble free for about two weeks.

Why did I spell this process out like this? I wanted to point out how easy it would have been to let me flap in the breeze.

Hasset diagnosed my electrical problem by tracing it out (standard fare) but then went the next step and documented the splicing and the fact that the splicing had been done as part of a repair as evidenced by the replaced body panels.

Webster stood behind their product and repaired it with few questions asked and a loaner for my trouble. I realize that Mass law was in my favor,, but I never even had to mention it. They didn't have to give me a loaner, had three opportunities to attempt repairs (at 800 miles round trip for me) and could have dragged things out through arbitration.

Someone inside a Ford organization failed to recognize or document the accident, but both dealers did a good job of working together to make sure that was not MY problem.

This is not my first positive experience with a Lincoln Mercury dealer. The infrequent repairs and service on the 99 Grand Marquis have also been very positive. In my limited experience, it looks like the entire dealer network is fairly awesome. These businesses certainly stand out. I will seriously consider a Mercury or Lincoln for the next family car.

Thanks for standing behind your products.

Matthew Newhall

Rocknthehawk
01-09-2009, 06:02 PM
+1 for Massachusetts....

My brother had a similar repair issue with his marauder, being carfax certified, but being a lemon.

I think a few members saw your MM when it was on the lot...Tom? Dave?

It's good to hear you got great service and everything fixed CORRECTLY!

I'm curious....wouldn't carfax buy the car back 110% or something if it has in fact been hit?

Raudermaster
01-09-2009, 06:11 PM
I don't trust CarFax at all. I've heard too many horror stories from them. There are tons of dealer's who don't even update/use CarFax so you would have no way of knowing what the hell it went through.

jgc61sr2002
01-09-2009, 07:08 PM
Glad it worked out for you.:D

Odinson
01-10-2009, 03:15 AM
"I'm curious....wouldn't carfax buy the car back 110% or something if it has in fact been hit?"

I don't know, but I know at least in the letter of the law Mass mandates that the dealer would have to cut me a check and take the car back if they wouldn't/couldn't repair it after 3 attempts or 11 business days.

I'm a little hazy on the details. *thankfully*

I have a feeling whoever owned it before actually hit a pole or building and simply had it towed to the lowest bidder. The mystery knock off rim, the shabby splice, and now the clearcoat on the front bumper ripped where someone bumped me when parking. Even the turn signal bulb on the drivers side has it's yellow film peeling where the passenger's side is normal. The original owner was probably strapped for cash doing an off the books repair on a car he couldn't really afford. All this stuff is subtle. Since I didn't notice and my dealer didn't notice anything wrong at first, I'm going to give Webster the benifit of the doubt.

I bought the wheel already, I'll find out about repairing the bumper clearcoat one of these days.

Robert 96
01-10-2009, 04:47 AM
Wow! that's great that they made everything right for you. I don't think that's something that would happen too often.

larryo340
01-10-2009, 07:02 AM
It's always good to hear a story with a positive ending. Plus it shows that not all dealers are out to screw you especially in your case as you were 400 miles away, and it would've been easy to give you a hard time. Buying a used car with having to trust people you don't know is not an easy thing to do especially long distance. I'm personally glad it all worked out for you, and the Marauder gives you many smiles.

As far as Carfax is concerned if it was an accident that was never reported to anyone, and car was fixed on the owners dime then Carfax's liability is zero.

Taken from the Carfax site:

CARFAX receives information from more than 20,000 data sources (http://www.carfax.com/data_sources.cfx) including every U.S. and Canadian provincial motor vehicle agency plus many auto auctions, fire and police departments, collision repair facilities, fleet management and rental agencies, and more.
The exclusive CARFAX Buyback Guarantee (http://javascript<b></b>:MM_openBrWindow('/guarantee/hctermsanddef.cfm','','scrollb ars=yes,resizable=yes,width=71 5,height=550')) reduces the risk involved in buying a used car. If the CARFAX Report fails to include a DMV-issued branded title(such as salvage, fire or flood damage, and odometer problems), CARFAX may buy the vehicle back for the full purchase price*.
In addition to getting a CARFAX Report, before you buy a vehicle we recommend taking a test drive and having the vehicle inspected by a qualified mechanic.

TAKEDOWN
01-10-2009, 08:31 AM
Now that's a story I like to hear!

SC Cheesehead
01-10-2009, 08:57 AM
WOW!

Interesting story, and glad to hear that things worked out for you.

Davesvt2000
01-10-2009, 09:08 AM
Webster Dudley LM has been around forever, and while I haven't personally done any business with them, I have over the years heard good stories about them and their reputation.

Maybe you could alert the service manager about this thread/site, and let him know you are signing their praise. :beer:

Odinson
01-10-2009, 06:06 PM
"Maybe you could alert the service manager about this thread/site, and let him know you are signing their praise."

I just did exactly that. I have had enough mediocre service experiences to know a good one when I see it. :)