View Full Version : Good-bye Aren Jay
Haggis
01-28-2009, 09:10 AM
I really did enjoy you threads, I found them entertaining.
To those of you that bullied him off .net....:razz:
How many Marauder related Threads/posts have I made in the 5yrs I have been here?
Dr Caleb
01-28-2009, 09:19 AM
I really did enjoy you threads, I found them entertaining.
To those of you that bullied him off .net....:razz:
How many Marauder related Threads/posts have I made in the 5yrs I have been here?
++1
If you don't believe in freedom of speech for your own worst enemy, you don't believe in it at all.
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/download/file.php?id=11826
rayjay
01-28-2009, 09:35 AM
Hmm, missed something again???
Embassy
01-28-2009, 09:47 AM
Hmm, missed something again???
That makes two of us.
LordVader
01-28-2009, 09:51 AM
Once again over my head...zoooom!
duhtroll
01-28-2009, 09:52 AM
Oh, he'll be back.
He'll just use a different screen name again.
:P
Vortech347
01-28-2009, 09:52 AM
There are some good people on here. But then there are some real effin aholes too. If you have an issue with someones posts or threads.... don't read em.
Rocknthehawk
01-28-2009, 10:27 AM
+1 to that ^^
I enjoyed his threads (for the most part). If it didn't interest me, I didn't open the thread, or didn't reply.
Sad to see some of the long time members act they way they did.
AJ, if you read this, I'll donate the $$ for you to be a contributing member, so then the flags can't whine about bandwith you consume.
Dr Caleb
01-28-2009, 10:48 AM
Hmm, missed something again???
That makes two of us.
See for yourselves.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2206212
Blk Mamba
01-28-2009, 11:03 AM
nothing there, I'm not a contributing member either, (PM me I'll tell you why), if you would rather I leave, just ask.
rayjay
01-28-2009, 11:15 AM
See for yourselves.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/search.php?searchid=2206212
Doc, link not working.
Dr Caleb
01-28-2009, 11:29 AM
Doc, link not working.
Dang. It was a link to his recently started threads (still works for me).
Of the last 25, 6 are locked.
Here are links to the last 5 threads he started, see if you can spot a trend:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50676
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50241
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47788
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50718
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50661
And a couple of his 'locked' threads.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50517
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50557
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50688
ctrlraven
01-28-2009, 11:47 AM
So he went back and edited all of his recent post with ......... ? lol
Peace, love and chicken grease our northern person.
tjg442
01-28-2009, 11:49 AM
ok, maybe he has a lot of "posts", so if their thinking of removeing him, why not put it up for a vote with all of us.? Don't want to go there, but what the heck, maybe i'm next ? So i'll say goodby now too all, if so,? "we all have enough goverment trying too run our lives" this site shows, common sence, granted, sometimes ? However we all have the right too "free speach", never saw anything on this site i would not let my "granchildren" see or read ! Makes me wonder ? Don't know about the rest of you, but i said it....ted goshen jr.
How many Marauder related Threads/posts have I made in the 5yrs I have been here?
let me think,... 5,615. What did I win? That's about 2 thousand more then me. So now what does that mean again.
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 11:56 AM
ok, maybe he has a lot of "posts", so if their thinking of removeing him, why not put it up for a vote with all of us.? Don't want to go there, but what the heck, maybe i'm next ? So i'll say goodby now too all, if so,? "we all have enough goverment trying too run our lives" this site shows, common sence, granted, sometimes ? However we all have the right too "free speach", never saw anything on this site i would not let my "granchildren" see or read ! Makes me wonder ? Don't know about the rest of you, but i said it....ted goshen jr.
I think he removed himself, and I believe he deleted out his own posts, the admins. didn't.
I think he removed himself, and I believe he deleted out his own posts, the admins. didn't.
He pushed the button http://www.coolthings.com.au/images/self_destruct_medium.jpg
Dr Caleb
01-28-2009, 12:06 PM
So he went back and edited all of his recent post with ......... ? lol
Yes, he deleted all his stuff, after the hard trolling that went on last evening. It's all the other stuff that is missing that says the most. The attached images calling him names and threating him violence (not from last evening, but over the last week or so).
I really liked the thread he started on "What's the difference between a Short block and Long block" where people started referring to him in 'prison terms' and suggesting and even mildly threatening "Pre-consensual surprise prison style sex" to put it simply. Of course, the whole thread was his own fault, for being a troll, right?
I too was unsure the difference between a long and short block, and the question is seems was never answered. But I'd never start such a thread now. Who knows what threats may arise?
tjg442
01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
i think he removed himself, and i believe he deleted out his own posts, the admins. Didn't.
not sold on that,? Too complete, and too fast !
2ndMDRebel
01-28-2009, 12:13 PM
I've thought about walking into traffic now that he's not around. I just don't know how to live anymore.
Brian H
01-28-2009, 12:23 PM
It's a shame the same people who are smart enuff to buy the last of a dieing breed, aren't smart enuff to answer a simple quest. without turning it into, what ultimetaly caused a member to leave, an answer! I would answr the quest., but i don't even no whats going on, or why another member would be treated as such. Overall, IT'S JUST A CAR!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!!! If you can answer the question, great, if not someone eventualy will! But don't run off a MEMBER just because he asked, or respondes with unusuall dialog!!!. And again i don't no why he left!!! But he did, and for those who caused him to leave.... i hope ya feel better. Why did he leave anyway?
Blackened300a
01-28-2009, 12:26 PM
I've thought about walking into traffic now that he's not around. I just don't know how to live anymore.
I'm on a hunger strike til he return's.:rolleyes:
Embassy
01-28-2009, 12:38 PM
I've thought about walking into traffic now that he's not around. I just don't know how to live anymore.
No! Don't do it!
However, if you do...............may I have your DTR and P74? :D
2ndMDRebel
01-28-2009, 12:40 PM
It's a shame the same people who are smart enuff to buy the last of a dieing breed, aren't smart enuff to answer a simple quest. without turning it into, what ultimetaly caused a member to leave, an answer! I would answr the quest., but i don't even no whats going on, or why another member would be treated as such. Overall, IT'S JUST A CAR!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!!! If you can answer the question, great, if not someone eventualy will! But don't run off a MEMBER just because he asked, or respondes with unusuall dialog!!!. And again i don't no why he left!!! But he did, and for those who caused him to leave.... i hope ya feel better. Why did he leave anyway?
Because he had the spelling ability of a fifth grader... errr...
hot-rauder
01-28-2009, 12:45 PM
I am the only oneon his friends list.... and i have spoken to him through PMs. He simply said he is removing his words of wisdom and moving on.
thanks guys! Now we can concetrate on threads about midget porn and male shrinkage.... funny huh? the ones calling him the troll do the same thing he does.
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 12:58 PM
....I really liked the thread he started on "What's the difference between a Short block and Long block".... I too was unsure the difference between a long and short block, and the question is seems was never answered. But I'd never start such a thread now. Who knows what threats may arise?
Actually, the question was answered by several of the members, and with straightforward, reasonable answers. Others chimed in after that and hijacked the thread, but the initial question was answered. I think part of the problem with a lot of his posts was that you really didn'y know if he was asking a serious question or if he was just trying to be glib.
It's a shame the same people who are smart enuff to buy the last of a dieing breed, aren't smart enuff to answer a simple quest. without turning it into, what ultimetaly caused a member to leave, an answer! I would answr the quest., but i don't even no whats going on, or why another member would be treated as such. Overall, IT'S JUST A CAR!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!!! If you can answer the question, great, if not someone eventualy will! But don't run off a MEMBER just because he asked, or respondes with unusuall dialog!!!. And again i don't no why he left!!! But he did, and for those who caused him to leave.... i hope ya feel better. Why did he leave anyway?
Brian, we could (and maybe will) debate this question at length. AJ could be really annoying at times, and didn't seem to be very good at taking hints, judging by the volume of the threads he started over the past few weeks.
He also said some stuff awhile back about one of our members that didn't sit too well with some folks (and I'm the first to admit I was one of them). Shortly after that I put him on my "Ignore" list, so I didn't really follow most of the stuff up until the past couple of days.
O's Fan Rich
01-28-2009, 01:06 PM
It's a shame the same people who are smart enuff to buy the last of a dieing breed, aren't smart enuff to answer a simple quest. without turning it into, what ultimetaly caused a member to leave, an answer! I would answr the quest., but i don't even no whats going on, or why another member would be treated as such. Overall, IT'S JUST A CAR!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!!! If you can answer the question, great, if not someone eventualy will! But don't run off a MEMBER just because he asked, or respondes with unusuall dialog!!!. And again i don't no why he left!!! But he did, and for those who caused him to leave.... i hope ya feel better. Why did he leave anyway?
The funny thing is, Brian, now that he has replaced the majority of his "questions" with" .................. " no one can see what he was posting and why the response he got were given!
Pretty slick move on his part. Now he can sit back and smile.
Of course he won't see this post, as I have been on his ignore list ( yes he proudly posted it) along with many others who "trolled" him.... so could those ignored posts really had an effect on him?
Hey it was fun, but when you can't stand the heat, can only dish it out, you gotta boogie on down the road I suppose.
Raudermaster
01-28-2009, 01:11 PM
I have no comment on the situation. But I do have to say most of his posts were useless.
Brian H
01-28-2009, 01:14 PM
Oh,.................. Just wunnerin'.............. My 2 cents may have cost me 5 cents................ How 'bout that Kentucky Speedway Thang...........
Brian H
01-28-2009, 01:15 PM
Anybody....................... ...........
Embassy
01-28-2009, 01:22 PM
Oh,.................. Just wunnerin'.............. My 2 cents may have cost me 5 cents................ How 'bout that Kentucky Speedway Thang...........
Weather-permitting, I plan to be there.
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 01:33 PM
Oh,.................. Just wunnerin'.............. My 2 cents may have cost me 5 cents................ How 'bout that Kentucky Speedway Thang...........
Not to worry, legit questions usually receive a legit response.
So, are you wondering about the doing the Louisville Meet as well as the deal out at the Speedway?
RF Overlord
01-28-2009, 01:35 PM
FWIW, Aren Jay was NOT asked to leave, nor was his account closed, by the owners. Everything he changed or deleted he did himself.
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 01:37 PM
FWIW, Aren Jay was NOT asked to leave, nor was his account closed, by the owners. Everything he changed or deleted he did himself.
Bob,
Thanks for the clarification/verification.
Hacklemerc
01-28-2009, 01:40 PM
I am completely lost as to whats going on... Guess thats the price I pay for not reading any of his posts. He and I did not see eye to eye on alot of things and to be quite frank I found his posts to be annoying.
Its a shame that he was run off. (wow never thought I would say that) It seems like we have members leaving left and right becuase we can't get along and are badmouthing each other. Its just a shame that we can't stick with the car thing and move on.
sd8683
01-28-2009, 01:54 PM
I do feel bad for Aren Jay..... But that being said I didn't read most of his threads. I only read his threads when I was extremely board and read EVERYTHING else!
a_d_a_m
01-28-2009, 02:03 PM
too much drama for my sister's llama.
Rocknthehawk
01-28-2009, 02:06 PM
I see another thread hijack. Maybe we should start a "MM.net whore thread" where the rediculous banter can take place.
Oh? there is one of those? It's called shoutbox? weird....
I've got to give it to AJ, aside from some of his stupid comments, oddball questions, and insane threads, i don't think I ever saw him once purposely bash on a member. Maybe his comments in some threads were hurtful to some, but I don't think he ever trolled or bullied any members, even after some hardcore bashing the flags did to him.
Is there a hitlist of who's next to be bullied off?
Bluerauder
01-28-2009, 02:11 PM
It's a shame the same people who are smart enuff to buy the last of a dieing breed, aren't smart enuff to answer a simple quest. without turning it into, what ultimetaly caused a member to leave, an answer! I would answr the quest., but i don't even no whats going on, or why another member would be treated as such. Overall, IT'S JUST A CAR!! IT'S JUST A QUESTION!!! If you can answer the question, great, if not someone eventualy will! But don't run off a MEMBER just because he asked, or respondes with unusuall dialog!!!. And again i don't no why he left!!! But he did, and for those who caused him to leave.... i hope ya feel better. Why did he leave anyway?
I suspect that he left because so many of the longer term members stopped feeding his constant troll-like questions.
For 21 months, he had saturated this site with nothing but odd questions, comments and polls of one strange kind or another such as Do the Marauder mirrors rotate? Should I buy a Smart Car or a VW Phaeton? Buy a house or a condo? Will my MM fit into the garage? Looking at a 106' Luxury Yacht? Do you have a lifesized statue of yourself? Every morning there were 5 more inane threads from Mr. Jay and few were car related -- even less were Marauder related. Many members just tolerated his posts for months/years. Recently he seemed to increase his irrelevant posting as a game
When I had had enough -- I just put him on my Ignore List. I no longer was interested in ANYTHING he had to say about any subject. 21 months of :bs: was reason enough for me.
As to his status as a Member here .... I don't think that I ever considered him a "real" member. He was just a long term "Guest" with a screen name and a high post count. Real members attempt to contribute in some way, they participate positively, they ask relevant questions, they provide pertinent information & answers, they attend events if they are fortunate enough to have them within reasonable distance. Mr. Jay just seemed to want to be different and thrive on responses to his off-the-wall questions and comments. No -- I don't consider him a member and I seriously doubt whether he even owned a Marauder (or Panther) at all.
IMHO his presence was disruptive and annoying. I for one won't miss him.
Freedom of Speech works both ways. He posted. Folks responded or ignored him. He decided to leave. Bye Bye.
Can't say that I feel "Better". But I ain't losing any sleep over the loss of his "wisdom".
a_d_a_m
01-28-2009, 02:15 PM
bluerauder:
http://www.murderoncue.com/Images/Applause.gif
nomad
01-28-2009, 02:21 PM
I was one of the "trolls" playing on DCCAJ/whomever.
It's winter, it's snowing, it's short daylight and long work hours.
Not an apology, just my reason.
Why AJDCC/whomever?
He seemed to like to post outlandish, non-sensical threads, I thought I would just "flavor" them up with words of wisdom.
Such as: Coca-Cola was originally green.
Or: Did you know that there are coffee flavored PEZ?
Seemed harmless to me, but so be it.
I just assumed{yes, I know what assumed can mean}, that with his 4 wheel drive Marauder L, 165ft boat,$24 million house,coffee stains,helicopters circling,Phaeton,Subaru,Masera ti,Porsches,and his multi-million dollar home business,,,, he could laugh at a few harmless jabs.
I don't believe I ever posted ANYTHING derogatory about him? If I did, I apologize.
With everything else happening today, I can still sleep at night.
Thanks for listening,AJDCC/whomever
Sincerely, John Easton:beer:
Dr Caleb
01-28-2009, 02:28 PM
Why did he leave anyway?
Odds are, he realized the deck was stacked against him.
thanks guys! Now we can concetrate on threads about midget porn and male shrinkage.... funny huh? the ones calling him the troll do the same thing he does.
Don't forget American Idol and other such Marauder related . . .oops.
Actually, the question was answered by several of the members, and with straightforward, reasonable answers. Others chimed in after that and hijacked the thread, but the initial question was answered. I think part of the problem with a lot of his posts was that you really didn'y know if he was asking a serious question or if he was just trying to be glib.
Ahh, I guess I missed that part of the thread. I mainly remember him being the target of some pretty nasty attacks, then getting blamed for those attacks just for starting the thread. And no one getting a 'holiday', let alone a public warning.
I suppose it doesn't really matter what his intentions were. Even if he posted in the TEST FORUM, his trolls arrived in short order. But. . .he was the troll.
Hence, the deck was stacked against him because "everyone's" interests were different than his. No matter what he posted, someone would post in the thread to complain about him wasting their time. But, he was just 'padding' his post count. And it was clear that nothing would be done to those attacking him.
Somehow, the act of him starting a thread caused people to be forced into opening his threads and wasting a tiny fraction of the unlimited bandwidth they pay for monthly. My thread in the Test Forum is a prime example. So is Tito's.
I almost think that his posting in the last week or so was simply to highlight that he could do no right in anyone's eyes. Even if he was doing the exact same thing as everyone else. He still got run out of town on a rail.
Way to go. :up: Mission accomplished. :shake:
Blackened300a
01-28-2009, 02:45 PM
I agree wih Charlie 100% and feel the same. His thread's and post's seemed more like a game then actually trying to gain any knowledge. Also if you noticed, no matter what you had or what you did, he had to chime in and say he had something better or had a better experience or knew someone in the same situation. That's a cry for attention and it worked. We gave him our full attention by posting useless fact's in his useless thread's and he couldn't handle it.
If he want's to take his ball and go home then so be it. Maybe taking a hint and improving his image by actually keeping topic's somewhat marauder related or keeping obvious question's like if your mirror's fold in when you claim to own a Marauder to himself, then it wouldn't have been a issue.
Many member's ask question's which may seem simple to most of us, but they don't have a clue about it. We have alway's provided answer's or gave advice where to find it. That's the way it's alway's been and that same formula was used for almost all of AJ's thread's until it got out of hand.
Like RF said, he wasn't tossed off the site nor were his post's deleted. AJ himself couldn't take his thread's being hijacked with our crap just like we couldn't stand our forum's being polluted with his. He himself admitted to being tossed off site's and just coming back with another name. That's proof that we aren't the only group that found him to be annoying.
I'll miss 'em, even though many of his threads were off topic, they were put, where? In the lounge! All those who bashed him coulda just put him on ignore and be rid of him.
I for one like the way he broke up the monotony of posts with the occasional insightful post that made people talk and brought a bit of levity to a forum deticated to a relatively dead topic. I've seen a lotta decent, older, long time members being razzed out of the club for BS reasons, by a few from the old guard, that everyone just jumps on the bandwagon with. Its been said before and I'll say it again. I love my flags and I love this place but I think its on the decline with member on member fighting, and so many lines in the sand that every thread is a battleground! I'll be here with my MM till it goes down, but I just didn't think it'd go out like this!
Now we can concetrate on threads about midget porn and male shrinkage....
Oddly, one could compare his threads with those 2 topics. All three can be funny. All three are best viewed when bored. All three scream for comments to be made after viewing.
I'm a big fan of humor, some of his posts were just plain funny in thier outlandishness. (Is that a word? If not, I claim it on behalf of myself and midget porn stars everywhere.)
Treating him badly enough to make him leave is pretty low, just ignore the guy. 10 times a day someone asks a tire question, do you read them all and then threaten to bend each guy over and make his belly button an outtie instead of an innie because, to you, it is a waste of bandwidth? No. Althought that would be funny. I may do that to the very next time someone complains that BFG's are sold out.....
Maybe taking a hint and improving his image by actually keeping topic's somewhat marauder related or keeping obvious question's like if your mirror's fold in when you claim to own a Marauder to himself, then it wouldn't have been a issue.
Will you all stop using that example! Being ignorant of how our cars work is what brings many of us here! You yourself were not aware that the mirrors folded, after all the years you have had your MM, till that time my underdrives were being installed and I showed you!
Yeah the guy posted a lot of inane stuff but to a lot of people, it kept us entertained during lulls in actual important MM related stuff.
Blackened300a
01-28-2009, 03:01 PM
You yourself were not aware that the mirrors folded, after all the years you have had your MM, till that time my underdrives were being installed and I showed you!
If you recall, I wasn't aware of the mirrors folding forward. Every car I owned, the mirror's folded back not forward.
If you recall, I wasn't aware of the mirrors folding forward. Every car I owned, the mirror's folded back not forward.
Yes, but still you did not know that fact, and did I raz you? No, you live and learn.
But all in all I will miss DCC/AJ what what he did.
Blackened300a
01-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Yes, but still you did not know that fact, and did I raz you? No, you live and learn.
Its a irrelavant question. If I smacked the mirror and it folded forward then wow, the mirror fold's forward. If I wanted to know if it folded forward then I walk up to my car and find out personally. Its not like asking how to remove the intake manifold or doing a pulley install. For that you would absolutely start a thread asking for advice if the search didnt help.
O's Fan Rich
01-28-2009, 03:22 PM
"James" is the most popular given name in the USA according to the 1990 census data.
O's Fan Rich
01-28-2009, 03:22 PM
:lol:
hehehehhehehehhhehhheheheheh!
"James" is the most popular given name in the USA according to the 1990 census data.
Looks like you could make a good replacement Rich!:flamer:
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 03:26 PM
Yes, but still you did not know that fact, and did I raz you? No, you live and learn.
But all in all I will miss DCC/AJ what what he did.
Actually, there are a bunch of guys here that raz each other pretty regularly, and some times they jab pretty hard. :fishslap:
But those guys know each other, either as long-time posters or as folks who've met face to face and have learned what they can and can't say without taking offense. Some of that understanding came through admonishments, a few apologies, and lots give and take. I'm not sure that AJ ever tried to do that. The couple tongue in cheek jabs I gave him early on were met with caustic replies, and a calling out that would have been much better done via a PM.
But like you say, live and learn.
O's Fan Rich
01-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Looks like you could make a good replacement Rich!:flamer:
That could be fun, John.
And Rex was just talking about us taking jabs at each other. Now if Mr. Ribs would show his smiling teeth back here! How do they feel about midgets on the other side Rich!:D
O's Fan Rich
01-28-2009, 03:38 PM
And Rex was just talking about us taking jabs at each other. Now if Mr. Ribs would show his smiling teeth back here! How do they feel about midgets on the other side Rich!:D
We shall see...... we shall see.....
Vortex
01-28-2009, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlFh7P4MvU
justbob
01-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Ever since i joined i occassionally poked at Aren with never once meaning harm and he knew it. First i'd poke then he'd poke and always ended in a:beer: or a :D. Matter of fact i'd usually tell him that i was just messin with him, but he already knew it. Do i feel quilty the slightest bit???? Not one ounce. There was never bad blood between us and there won't be when he comes back, no matter what screen name he uses.
I still haven't received his autograph he promissed.
And hot-rauder, was that shrinkage directed at me? If so i wasn't rambling or joking, it is very cold here. Thats factional material there.
rayjay
01-28-2009, 04:47 PM
This guy is off the wall with some of his comments, but I support his right to make them provided he follows the site's rules. As stated by others I simply do not read most of his posts. I take notice when they start getting large and then give myself a headache reading them. It was still my choice to read it, I could/should have avoided it. :twocents:
ctrlraven
01-28-2009, 05:09 PM
I never had a problem with him besides his off the wall threads. Even Dom's threads were more of interest to peak into and see what they were about.
It's like the concept of trying to grasp thin air with your bare hand.
I agree with what BlueRauder said but I don't blame AJ for posting all of them....he was probably bored to death while being snowed in and all.
Black_Noise
01-28-2009, 05:39 PM
oh well........
blackrauder
01-28-2009, 06:05 PM
:shake: I find it funny that someone new to the site can make their first post on the site and see the HATRED between some members on the site, I think people should be concerned about this type of stuff instead of someone posting anything to get what he or she. If he wasted your time or anyones time you chose to click it, he did not force you. If you dont like it, dont left click it.:shake:
Black_Noise
01-28-2009, 06:16 PM
:shake: I find it funny that someone new to the site can make their first post on the site and see the HATRED between some members on the site, I think people should be concerned about this type of stuff instead of someone posting anything to get what he or she. If he wasted your time or anyones time you chose to click it, he did not force you. If you dont like it, dont right click it.:shake:
i usually left click things
:lol:
FordNut
01-28-2009, 06:43 PM
Seems like he was gaming us. First he was Diabolical, then when enough people started to ignore the nonsensical threads he changed names to Aren, got back into the limelight for awhile. MCM will welcome him with open arms!
hot-rauder
01-28-2009, 06:51 PM
And hot-rauder, was that shrinkage directed at me? If so i wasn't rambling or joking, it is very cold here. Thats factional material there.
Not directed toward you directly Bob. I just noticed a real boost in posts about male shrinkage and midget porn.... personally this is what turns me off to this site. Although we have a section for off topic threads, which Diabolical Jay used to his advantage, there is no need for these topics. I ouldnt mind as much, but since they were being mentioned in almost every thread, it got REALLY old.
Krytin
01-28-2009, 07:12 PM
I suspect that he left because so many of the longer term members stopped feeding his constant troll-like questions.
For 21 months, he had saturated this site with nothing but odd questions, comments and polls of one strange kind or another such as Do the Marauder mirrors rotate? Should I buy a Smart Car or a VW Phaeton? Buy a house or a condo? Will my MM fit into the garage? Looking at a 106' Luxury Yacht? Do you have a lifesized statue of yourself? Every morning there were 5 more inane threads from Mr. Jay and few were car related -- even less were Marauder related. Many members just tolerated his posts for months/years. Recently he seemed to increase his irrelevant posting as a game
When I had had enough -- I just put him on my Ignore List. I no longer was interested in ANYTHING he had to say about any subject. 21 months of :bs: was reason enough for me.
As to his status as a Member here .... I don't think that I ever considered him a "real" member. He was just a long term "Guest" with a screen name and a high post count. Real members attempt to contribute in some way, they participate positively, they ask relevant questions, they provide pertinent information & answers, they attend events if they are fortunate enough to have them within reasonable distance. Mr. Jay just seemed to want to be different and thrive on responses to his off-the-wall questions and comments. No -- I don't consider him a member and I seriously doubt whether he even owned a Marauder (or Panther) at all.
IMHO his presence was disruptive and annoying. I for one won't miss him.
Freedom of Speech works both ways. He posted. Folks responded or ignored him. He decided to leave. Bye Bye.
Can't say that I feel "Better". But I ain't losing any sleep over the loss of his "wisdom".
Thank you Charlie - that's it in a nutshell (no pun intended)!
Black_Noise
01-28-2009, 07:19 PM
Seems like he was gaming us. First he was Diabolical, then when enough people started to ignore the nonsensical threads he changed names to Aren, got back into the limelight for awhile. MCM will welcome him with open arms!
wouldnt last 5 mins.
stryker
01-28-2009, 07:52 PM
I really did enjoy you threads, I found them entertaining.
To those of you that bullied him off .net....:razz:
How many Marauder related Threads/posts have I made in the 5yrs I have been here?:confused: HAGGIS, What happenned to AREN JAY ?
STRYKER. :confused:
SC Cheesehead
01-28-2009, 08:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlFh7P4MvU
:D
Via con Dios AJ :wave:
Vortech347
01-28-2009, 08:24 PM
I've thought about walking into traffic now that he's not around. I just don't know how to live anymore.
Hey you stole my line! LOL
Joe Walsh
01-28-2009, 08:42 PM
I suspect that he left because so many of the longer term members stopped feeding his constant troll-like questions.
For 21 months, he had saturated this site with nothing but odd questions, comments and polls of one strange kind or another such as Do the Marauder mirrors rotate? Should I buy a Smart Car or a VW Phaeton? Buy a house or a condo? Will my MM fit into the garage? Looking at a 106' Luxury Yacht? Do you have a lifesized statue of yourself? Every morning there were 5 more inane threads from Mr. Jay and few were car related -- even less were Marauder related. Many members just tolerated his posts for months/years. Recently he seemed to increase his irrelevant posting as a game
When I had had enough -- I just put him on my Ignore List. I no longer was interested in ANYTHING he had to say about any subject. 21 months of :bs: was reason enough for me.
As to his status as a Member here .... I don't think that I ever considered him a "real" member. He was just a long term "Guest" with a screen name and a high post count. Real members attempt to contribute in some way, they participate positively, they ask relevant questions, they provide pertinent information & answers, they attend events if they are fortunate enough to have them within reasonable distance. Mr. Jay just seemed to want to be different and thrive on responses to his off-the-wall questions and comments. No -- I don't consider him a member and I seriously doubt whether he even owned a Marauder (or Panther) at all.
IMHO his presence was disruptive and annoying. I for one won't miss him.
Freedom of Speech works both ways. He posted. Folks responded or ignored him. He decided to leave. Bye Bye.
Can't say that I feel "Better". But I ain't losing any sleep over the loss of his "wisdom".
I couldn't agree more Charlie!
Odds are, he realized the deck was stacked against him.
Don't forget American Idol and other such Marauder related . . .oops.
Ahh, I guess I missed that part of the thread. I mainly remember him being the target of some pretty nasty attacks, then getting blamed for those attacks just for starting the thread. And no one getting a 'holiday', let alone a public warning.
I suppose it doesn't really matter what his intentions were. Even if he posted in the TEST FORUM, his trolls arrived in short order. But. . .he was the troll.
Hence, the deck was stacked against him because "everyone's" interests were different than his. No matter what he posted, someone would post in the thread to complain about him wasting their time. But, he was just 'padding' his post count. And it was clear that nothing would be done to those attacking him.
Somehow, the act of him starting a thread caused people to be forced into opening his threads and wasting a tiny fraction of the unlimited bandwidth they pay for monthly. My thread in the Test Forum is a prime example. So is Tito's.
I almost think that his posting in the last week or so was simply to highlight that he could do no right in anyone's eyes. Even if he was doing the exact same thing as everyone else. He still got run out of town on a rail.
Baloney!
As Rich said:
He couldn't handle the heat...so he got out of the kitchen.
Way to go. :up: Mission accomplished. :shake:
I agree wih Charlie 100% and feel the same. His thread's and post's seemed more like a game then actually trying to gain any knowledge. Also if you noticed, no matter what you had or what you did, he had to chime in and say he had something better or had a better experience or knew someone in the same situation. That's a cry for attention and it worked. We gave him our full attention by posting useless fact's in his useless thread's and he couldn't handle it.
YEP!
If he want's to take his ball and go home then so be it. Maybe taking a hint and improving his image by actually keeping topic's somewhat marauder related or keeping obvious question's like if your mirror's fold in when you claim to own a Marauder to himself, then it wouldn't have been a issue.
Many member's ask question's which may seem simple to most of us, but they don't have a clue about it. We have alway's provided answer's or gave advice where to find it. That's the way it's alway's been and that same formula was used for almost all of AJ's thread's until it got out of hand.
Like RF said, he wasn't tossed off the site nor were his post's deleted. AJ himself couldn't take his thread's being hijacked with our crap just like we couldn't stand our forum's being polluted with his. He himself admitted to being tossed off site's and just coming back with another name. That's proof that we aren't the only group that found him to be annoying.
Yep! again.
Oddly, one could compare his threads with those 2 topics. All three can be funny. All three are best viewed when bored. All three scream for comments to be made after viewing.
I'm a big fan of humor, some of his posts were just plain funny in thier outlandishness. (Is that a word? If not, I claim it on behalf of myself and midget porn stars everywhere.)
Treating him badly enough to make him leave is pretty low, just ignore the guy. 10 times a day someone asks a tire question, do you read them all and then threaten to bend each guy over and make his belly button an outtie instead of an innie because, to you, it is a waste of bandwidth? No. Althought that would be funny. I may do that to the very next time someone complains that BFG's are sold out.....
I, and many other members, DID ignore him.
That is what he dreaded most!..Not getting a response to his posts/threads!
Its a irrelavant question. If I smacked the mirror and it folded forward then wow, the mirror fold's forward. If I wanted to know if it folded forward then I walk up to my car and find out personally. Its not like asking how to remove the intake manifold or doing a pulley install. For that you would absolutely start a thread asking for advice if the search didnt help.
BINGO!
God bless the VW forums!
BTW: You just KNOW that he is reading this thread and LOVING all the attention.
TAKEDOWN
01-28-2009, 10:57 PM
I found Aren entertaining and whatever I found not interesting I simply skimmed and ignored. Life is too short to let him get under our skins, but just my opinion.
Windsor58
01-29-2009, 12:56 AM
I haven't had enough time to keep up on here lately, but am saddened to see another "issue" come to this.
Is it possible he traded his MM on that Phaeton he was wanting?
Vortech347
01-29-2009, 01:58 AM
People take this stuff way to seriously. This is 5 pages of proof.
hahahaha
Haggis
01-29-2009, 04:58 AM
People take this stuff way to seriously. This is 5 pages of proof.
hahahaha
Exactly...you people think to highly of yourselves.
If you don't like someone...ignore them. You don't like a thread...don't read it.
Now grow up and get a life, this is just a website where we go to communicate with our friends.
This is also an ADULT website focused around the Mercury Marauder automobile. This is not a place for minors whether they are our grandchildren or not, if you want to talk to the grandkids use the phone. And seeing that this is an ADULT site we should be able to use off colour humor and comments.
Marauderjack
01-29-2009, 05:07 AM
The cars are gettin' old.....not much to talk about anymore except a few guys shootin' for the 9's??!!:burnout:
Too bad a few ruin it for us ALL!!!:shake:
freakstatus
01-29-2009, 06:28 AM
Yeah, its funny how people get upset over posts they don't have to read in the the first place....
Master
01-29-2009, 07:11 AM
Yup. However, if someone would change the name of this thread to "Our mirros DO fold", it might become useful again. Honest to god, I had no idea our mirrors folded and would never have "just gone out and found out" because they simply don't look like they would. So, here is an example of a really dumb thread providing some interesting (to me, at least) information.
BTW: What the heck is a troll, anyway? Am I being one now? I have no idea.
duhtroll
01-29-2009, 07:31 AM
On this, we agree. If you're not old enough to drive a car, why be on a car-related site? Especially a car that fit the demographic of people older than myself, and that's old...
The reasoning that "young kids read this site so we have to be more Catholic than Catholic" is for the most part bogus, #1, and downright silly, #2, as I am certain nothing on here is going to corrupt anyone. If someone is smart enough to find this site, they have seen/heard far worse than anything here.
Exactly...you people think to highly of yourselves.
If you don't like someone...ignore them. You don't like a thread...don't read it.
Now grow up and get a life, this is just a website where we go to communicate with our friends.
This is also an ADULT website focused around the Mercury Marauder automobile. This is not a place for minors whether they are our grandchildren or not, if you want to talk to the grandkids use the phone. And seeing that this is an ADULT site we should be able to use off colour humor and comments.
RF Overlord
01-29-2009, 08:32 AM
I'll try to explain it again:
It has NOTHING to do with grandchildren or religion. It has EVERYTHING to do with this being our home and the fact that we don't want stories about male shrinkage, midget porn, or gigantic breasts. There are MILLIONS of web sites out there that specialise in that sort of thing. If you want to talk about that stuff, go to one of them.
When I'm in someone's home, I respect their wishes. All we're asking here is to keep conversations clean and civil. Is it REALLY so hard?
duhtroll
01-29-2009, 09:25 AM
No, it's not difficult for me at all since I don't feel the need to post that type of stuff and personally I don't care for it on this site. In other words, on the morality issue, we agree.
On the other hand, using the midget porn and gigantic breasts examples is not a fair indication of the censorship that has gone on at this site. Those incidents are rare at best.
This "our house, our rules" stuff has gone too far in some cases. And yes, the reason of children reading this site has been given on more than one occasion.
This is not anyone's home. It is an internet forum. Having rules is fine. Having rules that are more strict than what can be seen on prime time network TV, regardless of one's personal views, is simply unrealistic.
I'll try to explain it again:
It has NOTHING to do with grandchildren or religion. It has EVERYTHING to do with this being our home and the fact that we don't want stories about male shrinkage, midget porn, or gigantic breasts. There are MILLIONS of web sites out there that specialise in that sort of thing. If you want to talk about that stuff, go to one of them.
When I'm in someone's home, I respect their wishes. All we're asking here is to keep conversations clean and civil. Is it REALLY so hard?
Haggis
01-29-2009, 10:22 AM
The reasoning that "young kids read this site so we have to be more Catholic than Catholic" is for the most part bogus, #1, and downright silly, #2, as I am certain nothing on here is going to corrupt anyone. If someone is smart enough to find this site, they have seen/heard far worse than anything here.
I do not think religion has anything to do with it, but I believe the censorship is too strong.
I'll try to explain it again:
It has NOTHING to do with grandchildren or religion. It has EVERYTHING to do with this being our home and the fact that we don't want stories about male shrinkage, midget porn, or gigantic breasts. There are MILLIONS of web sites out there that specialise in that sort of thing. If you want to talk about that stuff, go to one of them.
When I'm in someone's home, I respect their wishes. All we're asking here is to keep conversations clean and civil. Is it REALLY so hard?
I don't need to curse here or anywhere else, but it does slip from time to time and to give someone a vacation because of it is silly.
No, it's not difficult for me at all since I don't feel the need to post that type of stuff and personally I don't care for it on this site. In other words, on the morality issue, we agree.
On the other hand, using the midget porn and gigantic breasts examples is not a fair indication of the censorship that has gone on at this site. Those incidents are rare at best.
This "our house, our rules" stuff has gone too far in some cases. And yes, the reason of children reading this site has been given on more than one occasion.
This is not anyone's home. It is an internet forum. Having rules is fine. Having rules that are more strict than what can be seen on prime time network TV, regardless of one's personal views, is simply unrealistic.
Yes, keep the porno off of here and if you want to see scantly clothed women go to another site. BUT, if someone provides a link do not censor it due to content or delete their post because they said a bad word.
ParkRanger
01-29-2009, 10:22 AM
I'll try to explain it again:
It has NOTHING to do with grandchildren or religion. It has EVERYTHING to do with this being our home and the fact that we don't want stories about male shrinkage, midget porn, or gigantic breasts. There are MILLIONS of web sites out there that specialise in that sort of thing. If you want to talk about that stuff, go to one of them.
When I'm in someone's home, I respect their wishes. All we're asking here is to keep conversations clean and civil. Is it REALLY so hard?
Who are you speaking for when you say 'we'? This is also my home and I don't agree with you. I enjoy reading threads that are way off topic as it gives balance to members like me who are not so mechanical/tech savvy. I enjoy reading the threads of others when discussing specific mechanical issues and have learned much from it. But if only these threads were allowed I fear they would become very dry and repititive. This forum is just not only about our cars but I believe also about the individuals who give them life. It has been a pleasure for me over the last 5 yrs to see into the personalities of our members which were revealed mostly through the freedom of the off topic threads. To all my fellow members = :beer:
Mike Poore
01-29-2009, 10:44 AM
Yeah, its funny how people get upset over posts they don't have to read in the the first place....
Since Gordon's one of my pals, I'd like to address this.
It was me who brought up the grandchildren issue, when, in fact, I don't believe my grandchildren have ever logged on to this site, them being 13, 10 and 01, respectively. I made the point about them illustratively to include my household. Barbara reads many of the posts and although not a prude, by any stretch, smut is simply not welcome in my home. Gentlemanly humor is one thing while graphic descriptions or crude language are a different matter altogether.
So far as reading all the posts, unfortunately, it's part and parcel of the job I signed up to do when I became an owner of this website. I don't have the luxury of an ignore filter, although, admittedly, some threads and posts get read very quickly. ;)
And lastly, to address Gordon's contention that this is an adult site. This is NOT an adult site, it's a family site and we are involved on promotion of family gatherings and family events. Gordon, do you want to expose your niece or Chris to in depth discussions concerning donkey flagellation? That's where we were headed, y'know ..until the vicious rabbit from the north started swinging her mighty axe.
Let's put this issue to bed, once and for all. You come in to our home with potty mouth and it's gonna get a virtual washing out with soap.
Haggis
01-29-2009, 11:17 AM
Since Gordon's one of my pals, I'd like to address this.
It was me who brought up the grandchildren issue, when, in fact, I don't believe my grandchildren have ever logged on to this site, them being 13, 10 and 01, respectively. You did write that your Grandkids were log on here, I just can not find it now. I made the point about them illustratively to include my household. Barbara reads many of the posts and although not a prude, by any stretch, smut is simply not welcome in my home. Gentlemanly humor is one thing while graphic descriptions or crude language are a different matter altogether. Correct, but sometimes the censorship is too much and I was a member here before you were even members or owner here.
So far as reading all the posts, unfortunately, it's part and parcel of the job I signed up to do when I became an owner of this website. I don't have the luxury of an ignore filter, although, admittedly, some threads and posts get read very quickly. ;) I do not have anyone on my 'Ignore list'; if someone posts something I don't want to read I don't, like most of the stuff in the garage section. I leave the oil threads to Guido.
And lastly, to address Gordon's contention that this is an adult site. This is NOT an adult site, it's a family site and we are involved on promotion of family gatherings and family events. Gordon, do you want to expose your niece or Chris to in depth discussions concerning donkey flagellation? That's where we were headed, y'know ..until the vicious rabbit from the north started swinging her mighty axe. This is not a site for minors and even though we do not need to post porno nor should it be posted here this is an adult site. I will not let Rachel be a member here, she has 'Myspace' and 'Facebook' if she wants to be online with her friends.
Let's put this issue to bed, once and for all. You come in to our home with potty mouth and it's gonna get a virtual washing out with soap.
Words slip occassionaly ease up.
Vortech347
01-29-2009, 11:21 AM
Oh and my space is even better?! Ever since my wife made an account there she's had dozens of "hey want to swing" e-mails. Yea talk about a positive place for kids. I have single friends that use that place as a "booty call directory"
Haggis: I definatly agree with your comments.
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 11:32 AM
Words slip occassionaly ease up.
Gordon,
While I agree on the occasional slip (had my share of those for sure :o), there are some guys here that go out of their way to include four-letter words in almost all their posts. IMO, that gets a bit tiresome, and really isn't necessary.
Anyway, back to the original theme of your thread, wadda you think, maybe we oughta to ask him to come back?
Seems like now that he's gone, there's some folks that miss him.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
duhtroll
01-29-2009, 12:04 PM
Once again, please stop referring to mm.net as anyone's "home."
It's not.
IF it is, folks have some serious RL issues.
Carry on.
ParkRanger
01-29-2009, 12:08 PM
Once again, please stop referring to mm.net as anyone's "home."
Carry on.
Please stop telling people to please stop.
Fourth Horseman
01-29-2009, 12:12 PM
So... no more big boob threads, then? :bigcry:
Posting to state my agreement with Haggis and duhtroll.
This whole my home, my grandkids crap is ridiculous.
With proper moderation comes respect from the members I GUARANTEE you wont have to ask for.
As I suggested in the past, appoint a member to be a moderator; one that the entire community respects and looks up to. This will prove to be far more effective than 6 owners jumping in randomly to handle a situation.
Maybe its how the owners are viewed in relation to their Marauders:
Mike Poore: Doensnt have a MM
MM2004, Mercman, BigDogJim: Seldom take their cars out, little to no mods, rarely on the site.
Bunny and RF: Great people, dont start many topics, NEVER have their car out at a meet.
Either get involved more, cut back the ownership, or appoint someone else to moderate.
I want to like this place again, but a lot of work needs to be done.
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 12:47 PM
ZACK IS BACK!!! :bounce:
RF Overlord
01-29-2009, 12:54 PM
Bunny and RF: Great people, dont start many topics, NEVER have their car out at a meet.Come on, dude, you KNOW that's not true. You DROVE our car in Cleveland at Dragway 42.
(13.2...thank you very much :D )
MM03MOK
01-29-2009, 01:07 PM
Bunny and RF: Great people, dont start many topics, NEVER have their car out at a meet.
We dare to travel to meet our friends across the country and attend more out-of-area meets than most because we don't let distance and 2 day road trips each way hinder our enjoyment of the car and all our friends. We spend thousands of dollars a year on travel expenses alone just to keep involved with this car and more importantly, our friends. If we could get our act together in New England, we would have more opportunity to travel a reasonable distance. God Bless those that can drive 600 miles in a day, but with bad backs, that's just not in the cards for us.
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 01:17 PM
Zack would make a great Moderator here.....
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 01:20 PM
Zack would make a great Moderator here.....
Things would be interesting, for sure! :D
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 01:24 PM
God Bless those that can drive 600 miles in a day, but with bad backs, that's just not in the cards for us.
600?
Heck, that's a cake walk.....
Get some sheepskins for your ride.... pm me and I'll tell you where I got mine... they have the Marauder measurements and a wide selection!
We dare to travel to meet our friends across the country and attend more out-of-area meets than most because we don't let distance and 2 day road trips each way hinder our enjoyment of the car and all our friends. We spend thousands of dollars a year on travel expenses alone just to keep involved with this car and more importantly, our friends. If we could get our act together in New England, we would have more opportunity to travel a reasonable distance. God Bless those that can drive 600 miles in a day, but with bad backs, that's just not in the cards for us.
I have to add to this that I did not bring my GM to a meet last year. The planes and other more comfortable transportation are nice. As time goes on you will see fewer of the cars at the meets. When racing more will be trailered in! The 600 miles plus driving in a day is a lot for some of us. If the New England people would have some meets I would make it to one! I am on Marys side on this one! :)
sd8683
01-29-2009, 01:34 PM
If we could get our act together in New England, we would have more opportunity to travel a reasonable distance. God Bless those that can drive 600 miles in a day.
Mary..... We had more then a few meet's lastyear, and not once did I see anyone form the cape:( Correction..... I met Burt Ragio at one meet:D
a_d_a_m
01-29-2009, 02:00 PM
With proper moderation comes respect from the members I GUARANTEE you wont have to ask for. well said, and that can pretty much be said for almost any website.
Mike Poore: Doensnt have a MM
MM2004, Mercman, BigDogJim: Seldom take their cars out, little to no mods, rarely on the site.
Bunny and RF: Great people, dont start many topics, NEVER have their car out at a meet.
Either get involved more, cut back the ownership, or appoint someone else to moderate.
I want to like this place again, but a lot of work needs to be done.
Come on, dude, you KNOW that's not true. You DROVE our car in Cleveland at Dragway 42.
(13.2...thank you very much :D )
I have to add to this that I did not bring my GM to a meet last year. The planes and other more comfortable transportation are nice.
Look at these quotes ^^^^ Then look at the fast pace changing environment in the MM world.
Here we have, and I say this politely: "Old" owners with bad backs and a mulititude of 'mature' thinking, biblical references, grandkids, no potty mouth stuff.
But has anyone noticed the average age of Marauder owners? I hate to tell you, but the average age is not 50+ anymore. Its between 20-35 id say.
You cant run a website with 1940's ideals and expect a young crowd to relate.
There is a happy medium to all this, it just hasnt been discovered or applied yet.
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 02:06 PM
Methinks this thread is going waaaaaay:Offtopic:
It's Gordon's thread, wadda ya think, bubba; time to close?
a_d_a_m
01-29-2009, 02:13 PM
why is it, that whenever someone brings up a point that's even remotely off-topic, someone raises a motion to close the thread? (not ONLY on this site, but i have noticed it here on occasion)
good dialogue never hurt anyone.
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 02:15 PM
What do ya mean Rex? Aren Jay would be proud!!!
He's such a wonderful guy, I wish he'd post some more.....Too bad he can't see my posts.
sd8683
01-29-2009, 02:16 PM
Look at these quotes ^^^^ Then look at the fast pace changing environment in the MM world.
Here we have, and I say this politely: "Old" owners with bad backs and a mulititude of 'mature' thinking, biblical references, grandkids, no potty mouth stuff.
But has anyone noticed the average age of Marauder owners? I hate to tell you, but the average age is not 50+ anymore. Its between 20-35 id say.
You cant run a website with 1940's ideals and expect a young crowd to relate.
There is a happy medium to all this, it just hasnt been discovered or applied yet.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g171/boloboffin2/nailonhead.jpg
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 02:17 PM
But has anyone noticed the average age of Marauder owners? I hate to tell you, but the average age is not 50+ anymore. Its between 20-35 id say.
You cant run a website with 1940's ideals and expect a young crowd to relate.
There is a happy medium to all this, it just hasnt been discovered or applied yet.
And Red Sox fans.......:D
TAKEDOWN
01-29-2009, 02:22 PM
Who would you suggest as a model moderator?
sd8683
01-29-2009, 02:24 PM
And Red Sox fans.......:D
I see you've had a full glass od HATERADE today Rich...:D
Dr Caleb
01-29-2009, 02:25 PM
Exactly...you people think to highly of yourselves.
If you don't like someone...ignore them. You don't like a thread...don't read it.
Now grow up and get a life, this is just a website where we go to communicate with our friends.
:up: :up:
BTW: What the heck is a troll, anyway? Am I being one now? I have no idea.
Whadday talking about buddy? Bay man likes you!
Bait a hook, drop it in the bay - and troll to see what bites. That is a 'Troll' in the original sense. Someone posting completely absurd or incorrect things, just to see if they get a rise out of people.
Some confuse it with an ugly thing that lives under bridges in faerie tales. Which makes no sense if you think about it.
Rocknthehawk
01-29-2009, 02:29 PM
Sean, I'll agree on the new england meets.
maybe this year we'll have to plan something bigger than the cookout from last year?
and a correction, Mary along with 6 or 7 others came to a meet at the 99 in Marlborough before you were a member. There was a group from CT that made the drive, and i believe 1 from rhode island?
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 02:32 PM
I see you've had a full glass od HATERADE today Rich...:D
It's getting close Sean! Pitchers and Catchers in a couple of weeks!!!
Go O's!!!!
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 02:35 PM
why is it, that whenever someone brings up a point that's even remotely off-topic, someone raises a motion to close the thread? (not ONLY on this site, but i have noticed it here on occasion)
good dialogue never hurt anyone.
Ahhhhhh, maybe cause it might be time to start a new thead relating to the "off-topic" discussion? :dunno:
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Is this the shoutbox? Uhoh...I think I am in the wrong place... :run:
hot-rauder
01-29-2009, 02:52 PM
Zack said it right.....
GLAD TO HAVE YOU SPEAKING YOUR MIND!!! Afterall, you do, and I say this with no shame, know much more than many of us here, including me.
MM03MOK
01-29-2009, 03:01 PM
Mary..... We had more then a few meet's lastyear, and not once did I see anyone form the cape:( Correction..... I met Burt Ragio at one meet:D
Sean, I'll agree on the new england meets.
maybe this year we'll have to plan something bigger than the cookout from last year?
and a correction, Mary along with 6 or 7 others came to a meet at the 99 in Marlborough before you were a member. There was a group from CT that made the drive, and i believe 1 from rhode island?
I'll never be able to make a Sunday morning meet. Church comes first. Spring and Fall are best....I'm sure you've seen the Saturday morning and Sunday evening traffic over the bridges in prime Summer time! :D Broke bread with MarauderTJA, Paul Casey and Raudermaster this summer. That must count for something!
Rocknthehawk
01-29-2009, 03:06 PM
I almost think that his posting in the last week or so was simply to highlight that he could do no right in anyone's eyes. Even if he was doing the exact same thing as everyone else. He still got run out of town on a rail.
Way to go. :up: Mission accomplished. :shake:
Dr. Caleb nailed it. Even a test thread was trolled out.
I've read some wise words from AJ. I'm hoping he'll return to post them, or possibly the pm i read will be posted.
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 03:12 PM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50362
This was in the test forum.....
Blackened300a
01-29-2009, 03:14 PM
I've read some wise words from AJ. I'm hoping he'll return to post them, or possibly the pm i read will be posted.
Don't worry, you have 5000+ post's in the archive to re-live the wonder that was AJ. :rolleyes:
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 03:17 PM
Some one mentioned my name for posting in the test forum...I was testing my signature...after I saw it...I just deleted the signature because I didnt like it...I dont think anyone had saw it before I removed so the thread looked like a complete waste after a while....Other then that...continue on...:D
sd8683
01-29-2009, 03:24 PM
It's getting close Sean! Pitchers and Catchers in a couple of weeks!!!
Go O's!!!!
Yes sir!! I can't wait! Allthough the golden boy (Theo Epstein) really dropped the ball this winter, so I'm a little worried:(
hot-rauder
01-29-2009, 03:25 PM
Yes sir!! I can't wait! Allthough the golden boy (Theo Epstein) really dropped the ball this winter, so I'm a little worried:(
No he hasnt.... as he said to Lydon Byers last year and the year before....
"Leave it to the best team in baseball, Leave it to the number one team..."
hot-rauder
01-29-2009, 03:31 PM
Don't worry, you have 5000+ post's in the archive to re-live the wonder that was AJ. :rolleyes:
No he doesnt Paul..... Diablolic Jay has deleted almost all of them, and unless someone quotes him, we do not know what was said.
It is interesting though.... Go look at some of his recent threads. We all know without a doubt that he has never been an a-hole or made threats to anyone. He made ONE post about a members situation that got tempers flaring, mine too. But he did not mean it malicously, he did it from an outside point of view.... which no one had.
Look at the threads now without his posts. You notice VERY SELDOMLY do any members actually treat him in a decent fashion.... He was never illhearted toward any of you...
Diablolic Jay has deleted almost all of them, and unless someone quotes him, we do not know what was said.
"Coconut. Is it more coco, or more nut?"
I miss him.:rolleyes:
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 03:50 PM
Yes sir!! I can't wait! Allthough the golden boy (Theo Epstein) really dropped the ball this winter, so I'm a little worried:(
They'll be fine....
Yankees fans should be concerned.... how they gonna get tickets?:D
Dr Caleb
01-29-2009, 03:54 PM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50362
This was in the test forum.....
Exactly. And look at post #5.
Ms. Denmark
01-29-2009, 04:02 PM
Seems like he was gaming us. First he was Diabolical, then when enough people started to ignore the nonsensical threads he changed names to Aren, got back into the limelight for awhile. MCM will welcome him with open arms!
Um...............No they won't. That is one intolerant and often really nasty crowd and they will not appreciate his pearls of wisdom. :)
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 04:12 PM
Exactly. And look at post #5.
Yeah... the B slap pics....
not really "nice" but wouldn't have driven me off. The younger guys ( and gals) post stuff like that a lot in different forums.
I liked your post in that thread.
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Um...............No they won't. That is one intolerant and often really nasty crowd and they will not appreciate his pearls of wisdom. :)
you should spend some time on www.svtperformance.com that'll open your eyes to intolerance and nastiness!
Next time we see each other remind me to talk with you ( invite some other "old timers" to join in) about how MCM came to be. A few of us have lived it.
Ms. Denmark
01-29-2009, 04:19 PM
After wading through all the wringing of hands about his departure I'll just ask the obvious. Where were all of you? I don't recall a rally to his defence when it might have made some difference. :confused:
Spectragod
01-29-2009, 04:19 PM
God Bless those that can drive 600 miles in a day, but with bad backs, that's just not in the cards for us.
600? I drove from Dayton to Port Charlotte and back in 28 hours... could've done better if we didn't stop to eat and get a few hours of sleep. I might add it did feel like a bad beating afterwards, but I did it for the love of the Marauder..........:D
Dr Caleb
01-29-2009, 04:29 PM
Yeah... the B slap pics....
not really "nice" but wouldn't have driven me off. The younger guys ( and gals) post stuff like that a lot in different forums.
I liked your post in that thread.
Everyone kind of needed a time out on that thread, especially for being a TEST.
The b-slaps were the hight of rude, IMHO. Which is why I dug up that link. (Thanks, BTW). The younglings might think they are being funny, but they really aren't.
I guess it all depends on where you're from as to how you react to that pic. If someone came in my living room, slapped me openhanded and called me that - the first time, I might let it pass. The second, you would lose teeth, if not consciousness. The third, double tap right in the chest. Yes, that might seem a bit over the top.
At that point they would have questioned my manhood beyond the point of it being a joke anymore. It might help you to think of Alberta as 'Texas North'. We like to think about the harm our actions might cause before we act and we are a pretty tolerant bunch, but when action comes it will be swift and hard. That sort of a 'joke' just doesn't fly here. And how many times did that image appear in threads?
I can only imagine how Aren took it, as I took it as quite an insult and it wasn't even directed at me.
knine
01-29-2009, 04:30 PM
"Coconut. Is it more coco, or more nut?"
I miss him.:rolleyes:
I'm guessing it's more coCONut.
P.S., welcome back Zack. Dissapear like that again, and I'll disown ya'. ;)
Dr Caleb
01-29-2009, 04:35 PM
After wading through all the wringing of hands about his departure I'll just ask the obvious. Where were all of you? I don't recall a rally to his defence when it might have made some difference. :confused:
Not that he asked for it, but:
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50481
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50436
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=50362
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39428&page=3
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 04:44 PM
Everyone kind of needed a time out on that thread, especially for being a TEST.
The b-slaps were the hight of rude, IMHO. Which is why I dug up that link. (Thanks, BTW). The younglings might think they are being funny, but they really aren't.
I guess it all depends on where you're from as to how you react to that pic. If someone came in my living room, slapped me openhanded and called me that - the first time, I might let it pass. The second, you would lose teeth, if not consciousness. The third, double tap right in the chest. Yes, that might seem a bit over the top.
At that point they would have questioned my manhood beyond the point of it being a joke anymore. It might help you to think of Alberta as 'Texas North'. We like to think about the harm our actions might cause before we act and we are a pretty tolerant bunch, but when action comes it will be swift and hard. That sort of a 'joke' just doesn't fly here. And how many times did that image appear in threads?
I can only imagine how Aren took it, as I took it as quite an insult and it wasn't even directed at me.
That pic was NOT the first time it was replied to in one of his post though...
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 04:53 PM
After wading through all the wringing of hands about his departure I'll just ask the obvious. Where were all of you? I don't recall a rally to his defence when it might have made some difference. :confused:
Please be sure not to put me in with the handwringers.... I was on his ignore list, as he could not deal with my sense of humor and way of agitating... colour ( the U is for U DiabolicalCC/Aren Jay!! wait he won't see this as he ignores me!) color me "apathetic" . I'll miss the free posts for a spell.
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Wow, won't be long and I'll hit 4000... not bad for 6 plus years here.
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 04:56 PM
I dont recall saying much to him....i wonder why i was on his ignore list :dunno:
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
I dont recall saying much to him....i wonder why i was on his ignore list :dunno:
Us formerly active "CAM Box" (RIP) users seem to have all been on it...
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 05:11 PM
Us formerly active "CAM Box" (RIP) users seem to have all been on it...
LoL...yea I saw...was he singling us out?
Ms. Denmark
01-29-2009, 05:11 PM
you should spend some time on www.svtperformance.com (http://www.svtperformance.com) that'll open your eyes to intolerance and nastiness!
Next time we see each other remind me to talk with you ( invite some other "old timers" to join in) about how MCM came to be. A few of us have lived it.Look forward to seeing you.:)
Please be sure not to put me in with the handwringers.... I was on his ignore list, as he could not deal with my sense of humor and way of agitating... colour ( the U is for U DiabolicalCC/Aren Jay!! wait he won't see this as he ignores me!) color me "apathetic" . I'll miss the free posts for a spell.
Present company excepted, Rich. ;)
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 05:12 PM
Knows whats even more amazing...this thread...its kinda ironic...we fussed at him for his posts...but this thread AND alot of others are one in the same... :twocents:
Ms. Denmark
01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
Can't argue with you, TiTo.:cool4: Not that I'd ever want to. :smile:
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 05:15 PM
Can't argue with you, TiTo.:cool4: Not that I'd ever want to. :smile:
You'd better not...:nono: :laugh:
Ms. Denmark
01-29-2009, 05:17 PM
I miss the Shoutbox Mr. T.:P
TiTo35
01-29-2009, 05:20 PM
:alone: It looks like every thread is turning into a makeshift shoutbout now... :shake:
:alone: It looks like every thread is turning into a makeshift shoutbout now... :shake:
We are using more bandwidth with no shout box. Wish it would come back! :D
hot-rauder
01-29-2009, 06:11 PM
Dr. Clabe please dont include me in the younglings that are rude. I have messaged AJ back and forth and I have explained when I do call him out, I want to see his logic in his posts, which he always justifies.
Vortech347
01-29-2009, 06:14 PM
MM.net "We know Drama"
hot-rauder
01-29-2009, 06:15 PM
MM.net "We know Drama"
Nice TNT quote.... :rofl:
Blackened300a
01-29-2009, 06:22 PM
Exactly. And look at post #5.
Yeah and? I guess you rate that the same as threatening his life, finding his address and posting it on various website's, getting his phone number and harassing him, etc.....
If he's so clever and brilliant and if he didnt like my post's, then let him fire back at me or ignore me. Not pack up and leave.
Vortech347
01-29-2009, 06:24 PM
Exactly....
SC Cheesehead
01-29-2009, 07:14 PM
MM.net "We know Drama"
:popcorn:.......:popcorn:
Joe Walsh
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Post count +1
:woohoo:
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Knows whats even more amazing...this thread...its kinda ironic...we fussed at him for his posts...but this thread AND alot of others are one in the same... :twocents:
Deep down... there's a little "DiabolicalCC/Aren Jay" in all of us.........
:lol:
O's Fan Rich
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
I GOTTA do something real special for #4000
Spectragod
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
Post count +1
:woohoo:
I'll see ya, and raise you.....;) :banana:
Bradley G
01-29-2009, 09:25 PM
I miss the lil' lad :depress:
Dr Caleb
01-29-2009, 09:54 PM
That pic was NOT the first time it was replied to in one of his post though...
I know, it wasn't the first time I saw that image. It's also nothing to be proud of.
If he's so clever and brilliant and if he didnt like my post's, then let him fire back at me or ignore me. Not pack up and leave.
So what, "Shut up B-" is like a mating call or something for you? That's just the way you roll? Tourettes common in your neck of the woods?
Perhaps he would rather be the bigger man, decide he doesn't care for the attitude and put you on 'ignore'. Which, of course worked both ways.
He packed up and left, and for his own reasons. I have stayed, for my own. I doubt you factored very deeply into ether decision.
Dr. Clabe please dont include me in the younglings that are rude. I have messaged AJ back and forth and I have explained when I do call him out, I want to see his logic in his posts, which he always justifies.
I'm not naming names. That would be rude. ;) Besides, I know you had a soft spot for old 'random numbers'. Hehe.
Blackened300a
01-30-2009, 04:45 AM
So what, "Shut up B-" is like a mating call or something for you? That's just the way you roll? Tourettes common in your neck of the woods?
Yes, it's the mating call of the Queen's NYer. Its how we all roll up here, you got me, and Yes all NYer's have tourette's which for us mean's we type vulgar word's out and post them instead of speaking them. It's that rare string that started up here, the med's are working though.:shake:
After 50+ nonsense thread's and attention whoring in post's, That's how I felt. Doing it personally would have been a lot more satisfying. I personally don't care if you agree or not. Feel free to kick the dead horse some more, but That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Perhaps he would rather be the bigger man, decide he doesn't care for the attitude and put you on 'ignore'. Which, of course worked both ways.
Hurray for him, I chose not too ignore and gave him the attention he so desired. Now what??
He packed up and left, and for his own reasons. I have stayed, for my own. I doubt you factored very deeply into ether decision..
I don't take the credit for him leaving, in fact I think this was calculated and he will return.
We still friends??
Haggis
01-30-2009, 05:04 AM
First, Aren Jay has not left; he is here in 'spirit'.
Most of us are here for the same reason to converse with our friends, others here are just to 'TROLL' and should stay on MCM.
And Rich when you tell Ms. denmark the story tell her both sides not just what you learned over there.
Not everyone gets along with everyone else and we all do not agree with each other all the time, but come on people your not children.
Moderators, the same thing aplies; I agree with not allowing the cursing and unpropiate pictures and childdessness, but loosen up a bit.
Mike Poore
01-30-2009, 05:40 AM
Moderators, the same thing applies; I agree with not allowing the cursing and unpropiate pictures and childdessness, but loosen up a bit.
Gordon; actually, nothing has changed on our side of it, just the perception of what and how it's been said. Your point about **** being the right word, sometimes, has never changed, and when Charlie referrers to certain situations/people as bastages, no one, including the moderators say anything, because its the right word for the situation. It's when folks start slightly misspelling the four letter words or adding spaces to get around the filters with the intent being garbage mouth from the get-go, that gets attention. I think, you and I have been saying the same thing, just differently.
Over time, the gray line moves, and Zack's point about a younger group replacing the old guys is well taken; but no one can predict what's ahead in the short term. Long term; the Marauders will all have met the crusher, save the few that have been preserved, along with MM.net, and we will long gone; most likely me among the first, due to my advanced years.
It's the love and fellowship we've fostered through this website and because of the cars that have placed us where we are, and what our families mean to one another, not how someone mis-interprets what they think someone else has said.
An example: In these parts of PA it's common to hear someone say, "I bent it straight". Many interpret that to mean that the crooked item has been straightened. Others might think, "What a hick, he can't even speak english". See the difference?
Speaking of family, we have a situation with Grandma brewing and I need to step away for a little while. love mike & barb
Bigdogjim
01-30-2009, 05:46 AM
Well I had a marauder back in 1970:) So no way I am letting this one go Mike it will be the last to make the junkyard............Best of luck with Grandma. If you need anything call me:)
I will be around till the end:up:
rayjay
01-30-2009, 08:32 AM
I must have missed something, how did Mutt City Marauders get dragged into this?
This thread could be called As The World Turns, so Do The Marauders of Our Lives...
Dr Caleb
01-30-2009, 10:30 AM
We still friends??
You aren't on my ignore list.
hot-rauder
01-30-2009, 02:31 PM
I must have missed something, how did Mutt City Marauders get dragged into this?
This thread could be called As The World Turns, so Do The Marauders of Our Lives...
All My Marauders?
SC Cheesehead
01-30-2009, 06:54 PM
:laugh:
All My Marauders?
You nailed it, bubba!!! :D
Blk Mamba
01-30-2009, 08:08 PM
I was going thru some of my old posts and found one AJ didn't delete, wait till you see it. "I Apologize if this offends anyone." post #20
sd8683
01-30-2009, 08:31 PM
I was going thru some of my old posts and found one AJ didn't delete, wait till you see it. "I Apologize if this offends anyone." post #20
???????????
justbob
01-30-2009, 08:37 PM
Meaning Aren Jay is god?????
Blk Mamba
01-30-2009, 09:06 PM
isn't that what he said?
justbob
01-30-2009, 10:29 PM
Thats deep man!
stryker
02-03-2009, 10:52 PM
No! Don't do it!
However, if you do...............may I have your DTR and P74? :D:eek: !!NOOOOOOO!! Listen to EMBASSY, But in other way !NO EMBASSY! the DTR & P74 will be mine !BUT! as I am looking for a Marauder you keep the P74. :D
SC Cheesehead
02-04-2009, 05:35 AM
I was going thru some of my old posts and found one AJ didn't delete, wait till you see it. "I Apologize if this offends anyone." post #20
Post up a link, I'm not sure which thread this one is in.
O's Fan Rich
02-04-2009, 08:20 AM
Post up a link, I'm not sure which thread this one is in.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42496&highlight=Apologize+offends
SC Cheesehead
02-04-2009, 09:09 AM
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=42496&highlight=Apologize+offends
Okay, understand now, I thought AJ started the original thread.
Anyway, good story; I'd heard before, but still enjoy it.
Motorhead350
02-04-2009, 01:19 PM
the Marauders will all have met the crusher,
UNACCEPTABLE! :banned:
no way I am letting this one go Mike it will be the last to make the junkyard............Best of luck with Grandma. If you need anything call me
I will be around till the end
That's my attitude too! :banana:
Stranger in the Black Sedan
02-05-2009, 09:27 AM
Thank god. Clutter reduction on here is not a bad thing
TiTo35
02-05-2009, 09:30 AM
Is this thread his memorial now?
Joe Walsh
02-05-2009, 09:36 AM
Is this thread his memorial now?
'Memorial' implies that we want to remember him.
O's Fan Rich
02-05-2009, 09:50 AM
This thread is still around?
Sheesh...
Ok, here we go..... BOOBIES!!!
Joe Walsh
02-05-2009, 10:00 AM
This thread is still around?
Sheesh...
Ok, here we go..... BOOBIES!!!
Rich...you know that there is a much quicker way to get this thread locked......;)
O's Fan Rich
02-05-2009, 10:27 AM
Rich...you know that there is a much quicker way to get this thread locked......;)
Oh... right...
BOOBIES!!!
Aren Jay
02-11-2009, 12:25 AM
I was going to post something nice but didn't see the point, yet.
sd8683
02-11-2009, 12:42 AM
Hi Aren.........:wave:
Haggis
02-11-2009, 04:46 AM
Welcome back, though you never really left. COLOUR!!!!
O's Fan Rich
02-11-2009, 05:25 AM
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z56/olbroad/STFU.jpg
5150 now
Oh! The vulgarness of such a comment. I thought this was a family forum and site......
Help me! My brain can't comprehend such deep insight!
Too bad Aren can't see this...... he might even laugh.... just not out loud.
MM03MOK
02-11-2009, 05:45 AM
IMHO, after some treated Aren so badly, I don't blame him at all for posting that. It became a very immature game for some. Some think this site is mature enough to allow swearing, while bullying is acceptable too? Let's cut the crap and talk about what matters.
DEFYANT
02-11-2009, 06:01 AM
IMHO, after some treated Aren so badly, I don't blame him at all for posting that. It became a very immature game for some. Some think this site is mature enough to allow swearing, while bullying is acceptable too? Let's cut the crap and talk about what matters.
Like buttermilk BOOBIES! :beer:
Vortex
02-11-2009, 09:33 AM
.............................. ..
Joe Walsh
02-11-2009, 09:38 AM
IMHO, after some treated Aren so badly, I don't blame him at all for posting that. It became a very immature game for some. Some think this site is mature enough to allow swearing, while bullying is acceptable too? Let's cut the crap and talk about what matters.
True....Let's talk about a member who posted 5150 times on this site but couldn't pry $25.00 out of his pocket to support this site!
BTW: How you doing Diabolical?....What does STFU mean???
Post count: +1...check!
O's Fan Rich
02-11-2009, 09:56 AM
IMHO, after some treated Aren so badly, I don't blame him at all for posting that. It became a very immature game for some. Some think this site is mature enough to allow swearing, while bullying is acceptable too? Let's cut the crap and talk about what matters.
Yep, you are correct Mary. It's not like he's a vendor or something on the site being attacked, bullied and and ultimately vilified until he's run off the website.
We need to make sure we take care of and protect Aren Jay!!!!
Haggis
02-11-2009, 10:13 AM
close the thread!!!!!
Joe Walsh
02-11-2009, 10:16 AM
close the thread!!!!!
Gordon, I will keep posting in Aren Jay's thread, and it most assuredly will get closed.
+1 post count!
:woohoo:
rayjay
02-11-2009, 10:24 AM
:rolleyes: :popcorn: :popcorn: :shake:
Aren Jay
02-11-2009, 10:30 AM
Gordon, I will keep posting in Aren Jay's thread, and it most assuredly will get closed.
+1 post count!
:woohoo:
I could do the same in every one of your posts, wouldn't that be fun? Might even take me to 6000 posts.
:woohoo:
I believe you, the fake Mr. Joe Walsh, needs to have a talk with Mary about how and why some pay $25.00 and some do not.
I wonder if this means I'm back?
STFU = Stew for you or Food for thought? Maybe not.
:congrats: It is all Joe Walsh's (not the real one) fault.
TiTo35
02-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Its amazing how this site suppose to bring us together over a car...BUT...we have still found a way to make "enemies." Why dont we just bite the bullet...ignore people who may "get to you," dont read threads and just work on making the car go fast? How about it? Man Law???
rayjay
02-11-2009, 10:35 AM
:shake:
I could do the same in every one of your posts, wouldn't that be fun? Might even take me to 6000 posts.
:woohoo:
I believe you, the fake Mr. Joe Walsh, needs to have a talk with Mary about how and why some pay $25.00 and some do not.
I wonder if this means I'm back?
STFU = Stew for you or Food for thought? Maybe not.
:congrats: It is all Joe Walsh's (not the real one) fault.
Huh??????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????? ??? Come on already :shake:
Aren Jay
02-11-2009, 10:36 AM
I tried and tried, but they just can't stop.
They also complain on every post I make to the Mods and they ask me to stop posting so I do and they still can't stop.
This is Page 14 after all.
rayjay
02-11-2009, 10:37 AM
Its amazing how this site suppose to bring us together over a car...BUT...we have still found a way to make "enemies." Why dont we just bite the bullet...ignore people who may "get to you," dont read threads and just work on making the car go fast? How about it? Man Law???
+1. Man Law :beer:
MM03MOK
02-11-2009, 10:46 AM
Why are Flags vs. Stars even an issue? I have a half a mind to make no differentiation and change the symbols. It's a free-will donation that we all benefit from because it helps pay the bills and allows us the opportunity to hold events and raffles. If someone chooses to contribute, wonderful. If someone doesn't, for whatever their reasons are, that's fine too. If you'd rather, we can consider taking no donations at all but that means features will go away such as the gallery and the arcade, and regional events won't be supported financially.
As for this thread....it's all been said.
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