View Full Version : Lowering the front and rear end options?
Egon Spengler
02-10-2009, 06:23 AM
I am curious to see if any of you have lowered the front either using the eibach kits or just cutting the spring and left the back end at the stock height. If anyone has done this and taken a picture, could you please post it? I am curious to see how the rake looks with the front lowered and the back at stock. Also, could you lowered all around guys post pics as well. Possibly share some stories of the install and how difficult it was? Thinking of lowering come spring time.
BAD MERC
02-10-2009, 07:06 AM
I cut one full coil and got 1.25" drop. The rear I lowered about .75" and it looks perfect. I originally wanted Eibach Springs but was steered away by a multitude of members. The front was a piece of cake, take out the coil-overs and disassemble them on a spring compressor and cut the TOP coils. The rear can be moved by slightly adjusting the ride height sensor. Here's some good pics of the finished car on Cardomain. For reference - the pic in my driveway is before the drop - all other are after. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2267482
Blk Mamba
02-10-2009, 08:22 AM
I'm thinking about the same thing, but I have 285/50/18's on the rear, and when the junk tires on the front wear out I'm going to put 265/45/18's on the front, then Eibach springs, and lower the back 3/4".
Egon Spengler
02-10-2009, 09:21 AM
I've heard about the spring cutting.... what is so bad about the Eibach kit? Just want to make the right decision here
BAD MERC
02-10-2009, 10:02 AM
I have no experience but I have heard that the Eibach kit is stiff and jouncy. And pricey.
crabby125
02-10-2009, 12:14 PM
I have heard great stuff about from the CVN members about Coilsprings.com (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/Coilsprings.com)
They can customize your spring/rate and ride hieght to your liking. I know a few CVN members who paid around 300 for all 4 custom springs. Im assuming it would be cheaper since you are only need 2 new springs.
Embassy
02-10-2009, 12:41 PM
1 Cut coil.
Rear adjusted accordingly.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/677559/original/embassymaurader-commons.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/659914/fullsize/2729542835_a4d67f71fc_b.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/659917/fullsize/vi-rear-s.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/648571/fullsize/img_3327.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/644612/fullsize/img_3192.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623916/fullsize/mm2004s-pics-embassy.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/652931/fullsize/marauderworkshop1.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/677554/original/embassymaurader023r.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/677555/original/embassymaurader060r.jpg
sd8683
02-10-2009, 12:47 PM
Steve...... Looks GREAT!!!! Quick question....... What size are your front tires?
Embassy
02-10-2009, 01:09 PM
Steve...... Looks GREAT!!!! Quick question....... What size are your front tires?
Thanks.
Those are 255/45/18 Nittos.
2,4shofast
02-10-2009, 09:57 PM
I also cut one full coil in the front and adjusted the rear, pics can be seen here www.cardomain.com/id/shofast (http://www.cardomain.com/id/shofast)
Egon Spengler
02-11-2009, 06:18 AM
So everyone pretty much goes by the book then... nobody has tried just lowering the front and leaving the rear at stock height for more of a rake?
2,4shofast
02-11-2009, 06:30 AM
I left the rear of mine up for quite awhile but with the 20's and such a small tire it didnt look right IMO...so I took it down a bet.
Embassy
02-11-2009, 06:30 AM
So everyone pretty much goes by the book then... nobody has tried just lowering the front and leaving the rear at stock height for more of a rake?
Here's some pics with cut coils and factory rear ride height.
HwyCruiser's pics:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/692049/original/cut-coils.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/692050/original/cut-coils1.jpg
Mine (Granted, I had a trunk and car-full of OEM take-off parts):
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623931/fullsize/img_2475.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623935/fullsize/img_2478.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623936/fullsize/img_2479.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623939/fullsize/img_2480.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623942/fullsize/img_2484.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/623945/fullsize/img_2487.jpg
PantherP71
02-11-2009, 08:26 AM
Steve,
Your car looks tough as nails!
Embassy
02-11-2009, 08:54 AM
Steve,
Your car looks tough as nails!
Thanks. :beer:
Weather-permitting, you'll see it at the Kentucky meet.
Drewstang
02-11-2009, 09:08 AM
I almost wasn't able to post in here. Steve's head was taking up all the room. :D
Embassy
02-11-2009, 09:17 AM
There's always room for supercharged, lowered Police Intercept...err...Marauders. :D
Egon Spengler
02-11-2009, 09:41 AM
Steve, thanks for the pics! I love the raked look! I wanted to see how it looked that way and I like it! I think that is the route I might be going! I can always fiddle with it if I don't like it right?!?!?
Any issues with the cutting of the spring? Do they wear out quicker etc?
Thanks for the help guys!
Embassy
02-11-2009, 09:46 AM
Steve, thanks for the pics! I love the raked look! I wanted to see how it looked that way and I like it! I think that is the route I might be going! I can always fiddle with it if I don't like it right?!?!?
Any issues with the cutting of the spring? Do they wear out quicker etc?
You're welcome. The beauty of the air suspension is the easy change from a raked look to a slammed look. A socket wrench, and the ability to squeeze under the rear of your Marauder is all it takes.
I do recommend using a permanent marker to mark the OEM setting.
My Marauder's previous owner cut the springs. If they ever do wear out, I'll get a custom set from coilsprings.com.
PantherP71
02-11-2009, 01:16 PM
What does it mean when you say 'Rear adjusted accordingly'?
Drewstang
02-11-2009, 01:25 PM
What does it mean when you say 'Rear adjusted accordingly'?
The sensor that adjusts the height of the rear end can be "slid" back and forth to adjust the height be loosening two nuts. Left to lower, Right to raise is the way Zack explained it to me.
PantherP71
02-11-2009, 01:28 PM
The sensor that adjusts the height of the rear end can be "slid" back and forth to adjust the height be loosening two nuts. Left to lower, Right to raise is the way Zack explained it to me.
Oh thats cool. Where is that located?
Embassy
02-11-2009, 03:47 PM
I'll see if I can dig up some pics and post them tonight.
Cruztaker, and possibly Zack had posted them in past threads.
Edit.
Here's the thread:
http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39982
Egon Spengler
02-12-2009, 06:09 AM
Should the cut made to the springs be a vertical cut or angled? what?
2,4shofast
02-12-2009, 06:22 AM
Cut it vertically, the same angle it is right now. Make sure the coil doesnt get too hot during the process.
Krytin
02-12-2009, 07:50 AM
The pnuematic cut-off tools work perfect for this - fast work and minimal heat!
Egon Spengler
02-12-2009, 08:42 AM
That is what I was going to use and just go slow with it to not heat it up too badly! I think my dad's friend has a spring compressor in his garage so this really should be a 100% free lowering job! I may do just the front first and see how it looks and handles and if not satisfied, adjust accordingly.
The pnuematic cut-off tools work perfect for this - fast work and minimal heat!
Krytin
02-12-2009, 09:10 AM
Don't worry too much about the heat - the "whizz - wheel" cut-off tool goes through it like a hot knife through butter!
A wet rag wrapped around the "keeper side" of the spring close to the cut is over kill but added insurance.
justbob
02-12-2009, 09:15 PM
AutoZone rents tools for free.
There should only be one nut to loosen on the back, the second one is just a guide.
centexmarauder
02-13-2009, 12:50 AM
how much drop can i excpect from 1 coil being cut?
Embassy
02-13-2009, 04:07 AM
how much drop can i excpect from 1 coil being cut?
My pics posted in this thread are a good example.
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