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O's Fan Rich
04-12-2009, 01:32 PM
Blew up my motor today!!!

:lol:


Lidio told me that what I wanted was on the edge.....

Nobody's fault but mine!!!

After the bathroom is finished.... I'm going FORDged....... LONG LIVE BOOST!!!!:banana:

CBT
04-12-2009, 01:34 PM
Damn dude, sorry to hear it. Were you romping on it when it happened?

Pops
04-12-2009, 01:35 PM
Did not have the chance to get it to the strip first Rich! Oh well you said you were going to do this!

MyTMerc
04-12-2009, 01:38 PM
Sorry to hear that Rich. That really sucks.

Bluerauder
04-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Blew up my motor today!!!
Sorry to hear this Rich. Dayum. :( So does this mean you are bringin' the hooptie to Carlisle?

Ms. Denmark
04-12-2009, 01:58 PM
Condolences Rich! Sorry to hear this.:(

O's Fan Rich
04-12-2009, 02:06 PM
Damn dude, sorry to hear it. Were you romping on it when it happened?

Launched it HARD and it let go on the 2-3 shift!

Lidio's gonna say I told you so real loud!!!!

O's Fan Rich
04-12-2009, 02:07 PM
Sorry to hear this Rich. Dayum. :( So does this mean you are bringin' the hooptie to Carlisle?

Carlisle is a long way away, Charlie!

CKMustangCobra
04-12-2009, 02:19 PM
Sucks man.... get into the 10s!

Taemian
04-12-2009, 02:28 PM
Well, you sure have a great attitude considering all the work ahead. Good for you!

Bigdogjim
04-12-2009, 02:31 PM
But in the end it's a "good thing" right?

Good luck with the re-build:up:

RR|Suki
04-12-2009, 02:39 PM
welcome to the club :D

ImpalaSlayer
04-12-2009, 03:07 PM
bad and great news Rich. too bad it wasnt a little sooner, just sold the cobra shorty.

DOOM
04-12-2009, 03:42 PM
Check for bolts.

ImpalaSlayer
04-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Check for bolts.


:laugh: :lol:

Blown3.8
04-12-2009, 03:56 PM
Holy Cow Rich, Merc and I just found this thread and were shocked to hear about your bad luck. I just turn on my motor after upgrading the injectors. Needless to say it will not idle without help. You put a ton of love in your machine. Hope you get her back soon.

FordNut
04-12-2009, 04:11 PM
Good excuse to make it better, stronger, faster...

Haggis
04-12-2009, 06:12 PM
You didn't find a banana in the tailpipe, did you?

Seneca
04-12-2009, 06:31 PM
Man sorry to hear that Rich! cant wait to see your new monster.

Joe Walsh
04-12-2009, 06:55 PM
OH CRAP Rich!!!

Sorry to hear that you detonated her.

Were you running the methanol when she let go?

DOOM
04-12-2009, 07:02 PM
Rich will be back!
Better than ever :burnout:

O's Fan Rich
04-12-2009, 07:03 PM
OH CRAP Rich!!!

Sorry to hear that you detonated her.

Were you running the methanol when she let go?

Yeah... but a smaller jet.

Ahhhh life under pressure!!!

I'll start on the tear down this weekend and see where it leads!

I could just throw in the motor I got and be on the road in no time.... but I don't see the sense in that.
Let's see where my cash is in a month or so.

Blown3.8
04-12-2009, 07:12 PM
Sorry to hear about this Rich. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help get her back on the road.

jflave
04-12-2009, 07:54 PM
Hey Rich, sorry to hear about your motor, take your time & make the next one better. How was it pulling before it went down ?

Zack
04-12-2009, 08:01 PM
Sorry to hear Rich, good luck on the fix.

justbob
04-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Man you have a great attitude! What exactly went wrong?

NATEHAWK
04-12-2009, 08:14 PM
Sorry to hear about ur motor Rich. Was it more aggresive timing and more boost? Makes me wanna re consider putting on my 3.0 pulley I got.

O's Fan Rich
04-13-2009, 04:42 AM
Hey Rich, sorry to hear about your motor, take your time & make the next one better. How was it pulling before it went down ?

Like a FREIGHT train, John!!!

Lidio told me my injectors were maxxed and to "take it easy".... I did not listen, as I knew that I would hit it hard one day... figured close to home would be the best time to try it out.

Nate, not the 3.0.... I ran a 3.0 for over 2 years with no issues.

Zack
04-13-2009, 05:24 AM
Like a FREIGHT train, John!!!

Lidio told me my injectors were maxxed and to "take it easy".... I did not listen, as I knew that I would hit it hard one day... figured close to home would be the best time to try it out.

Nate, not the 3.0.... I ran a 3.0 for over 2 years with no issues.

39# injectors maxed at 460rwhp? Uh, no.

Rich, I guarantee your car did not leave the shop with the power you think it was making. I think you suffered from a little bad luck, thats all.
Good luck on the repair.

O's Fan Rich
04-13-2009, 06:20 AM
I think you suffered from a little bad luck, thats all.
Good luck on the repair.


I'm nominating that for "Understatement of the Year".....

Thanks for the good thoughts, Zack.

It's all good!

John Nero
04-13-2009, 07:36 AM
i feel the pain

SC Cheesehead
04-13-2009, 09:49 AM
i feel the pain

John,

Hey, what's the latest on yours?

John Nero
04-13-2009, 10:22 AM
John,

Hey, what's the latest on yours?

getting ready to put the motor back togehter i will post pics later

sweetair
04-13-2009, 11:00 AM
I'll post here also. Sorry to hear this. You will be stronger when you are back.

SILVERSURFER03
04-13-2009, 11:47 AM
Hey rich sorry to here about your loss.......give me your boost you won't needing it for while hahaha... No really sorry to read about it ...hey you still have to come to berts .........carpool

lastdaze04
04-13-2009, 12:46 PM
Dude: sorry to hear about that (Blew up my motor today)!!!
Just curious, if Lidio told you it was going to happen what WAS your A/F ratio set at? Mine is 14.64 at 11.5lbs of boost I am told that this is very safe for the amount of boost that I am running.
Rick

:lol:


Lidio told me that what I wanted was on the edge.....

Nobody's fault but mine!!!

After the bathroom is finished.... I'm going FORDged....... LONG LIVE BOOST!!!!:banana:[/quote]

FordNut
04-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Dude: sorry to hear about that (Blew up my motor today)!!!
Just curious, if Lidio told you it was going to happen what WAS your A/F ratio set at? Mine is 14.64 at 11.5lbs of boost I am told that this is very safe for the amount of boost that I am running.
Rick


14.6 @ 11.5 lb boost? And it ain't blown yet? It's fixin' to. That's VERY lean.

Dr Caleb
04-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Blew up my motor today!!!

After the bathroom is finished.... I'm going FORDged....... LONG LIVE BOOST!!!!:banana:

Sorry to hear that Rich.

So, do you really take that long in the bathroom? You might want to check out psyllium fibre . . .

DTRMiguel
04-13-2009, 12:57 PM
14.6 @ 11.5 lb boost? And it ain't blown yet? It's fixin' to. That's VERY lean.

He musta just gotten it installed ;)

burt ragio
04-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Rich for all the fun you have had with that set up we know your next project build will be even better.

RR|Suki
04-13-2009, 01:53 PM
Mine is 14.64 at 11.5lbs of boost I am told that this is very safe for the amount of boost that I am running.


who told you that 14.6 with any kind of boost is safe? :bs:

lastdaze04
04-13-2009, 03:02 PM
sorry :shake:was reading the wrong line, its 11.67/1 a/f ratio that is good!!! I blew out three disks in my back and I'm on lots of pain killers. I'm not 100% there. sorry for the error. funny once you brought it to my attention I freaked out and had to reread my dyno sheet:shake:
Rick



who told you that 14.6 with any kind of boost is safe? :bs:

FordNut
04-13-2009, 03:04 PM
Ok, 11.6 is good. At 14.6 I would expect it to blow on the dyno!

RR|Suki
04-13-2009, 03:16 PM
sorry :shake:was reading the wrong line, its 11.67/1 a/f ratio that is good!!! I blew out three disks in my back and I'm on lots of pain killers. I'm not 100% there. sorry for the error. funny once you brought it to my attention I freaked out and had to reread my dyno sheet:shake:
Rick

Good deal man, that was a scary number you posted :D

merc
04-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Rich, do you think adding the ported blower created a higher air flow causing the need for more fuel? Or did you have a vacuum leak causing unmetered air? I know I had a vacuum leak all last year. Wheat (Springfield Motorsports Tuner) made adjustments to my tune to compensate for the issue. Chris removed the blower last week and found more oil in the intake. The JTL pre-filter and oil catch can is now installed and should make a difference. I would be interested to see what your intake looks like.

Hack Goby
04-13-2009, 03:45 PM
Rich,I love you man but not one word on the "Other " site?.Best of luck on your rebuild.

ledzilla
04-13-2009, 04:23 PM
Sucks to hear you blew up your motor. I wish I was having as much fun as you probably were when I blew up the 5.0 in my old Lincoln. It blew up while I was pulling out into traffic on a 25mph residential. Down for 9 months because 1) I didn't have the means to swap out a motor at home, & 2) I hired and idiot to do the work (unknowingly at the time). Good luck on the rebuild! :-)

Motorhead350
04-13-2009, 04:28 PM
Sorry about that man. I know how it can be.

Build it stronger, better, faster! :coolman:

O's Fan Rich
04-13-2009, 06:04 PM
Rich, do you think adding the ported blower created a higher air flow causing the need for more fuel? Or did you have a vacuum leak causing unmetered air? I know I had a vacuum leak all last year.
I would be interested to see what your intake looks like.


Yes. That's what is believed, therefore the need for bigger injectors at the HP level I was at.

No Vac leaks that I'm aware of.

I'll take lots of pics!

Hack... I posted there first, "Ha! I had an extinguisher!!" thread.

Cuz... the car was on fire from oil on the headers when I went into my shop.... had to act fast ....

Hack Goby
04-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Hack... I posted there first, "Ha! I had an extinguisher!!" thread.

Cuz... the car was on fire from oil on the headers when I went into my shop.... had to act fast ....
My bad,Guess my old pot stirring ways are still with me.Best of luck with your rebuild.You and John go through motors like I go through woman even though I think I have found the right one this time.

Zack
04-13-2009, 06:16 PM
I have found with my Eaton conversion that there is slight detonation after the 2-3 shift when the load drastically increases.
If the timing tables are not perfect, detonation occurs. Ive been trying to sort it out for a few weeks now and Im still not done.

Here are the cliff notes:
Ive been to almost 10 tuners across the country and ive always had some kind of detonation somewhere in the powerband after leaving the dyno.
A dyno tune just CANT simulate the actual driving conditions, period.
Sure you can just back the timing off across the board a whole lot, but whats the point? I want every possible degree of timing where I can stuff it in.

TAKEDOWN
04-13-2009, 06:29 PM
Good Luck with your future project, I'm sure you'll be happier and faster!

O's Fan Rich
04-14-2009, 03:47 AM
I have found with my Eaton conversion that there is slight detonation after the 2-3 shift when the load drastically increases.
If the timing tables are not perfect, detonation occurs. Ive been trying to sort it out for a few weeks now and Im still not done.

Here are the cliff notes:
Ive been to almost 10 tuners across the country and ive always had some kind of detonation somewhere in the powerband after leaving the dyno.
A dyno tune just CANT simulate the actual driving conditions, period.
Sure you can just back the timing off across the board a whole lot, but whats the point? I want every possible degree of timing where I can stuff it in.

I would have loved to have been data logging when this hapened. It would have shed some light on things.
I have been wondering if it would be possible to have a constant logging system. Maybe a small data storage computer constantly recording while you drive.
Just thinking.

Zack
04-14-2009, 04:31 AM
I would have loved to have been data logging when this hapened. It would have shed some light on things.
I have been wondering if it would be possible to have a constant logging system. Maybe a small data storage computer constantly recording while you drive.
Just thinking.

I think you just described a LiveWire.

RoyLPita
04-14-2009, 04:54 AM
Sorry to hear this, Rich. Keep us posted, please.

O's Fan Rich
04-14-2009, 05:18 AM
I think you just described a LiveWire.

Oh? I have not looked at them at all. Figured they were a rebox of the same stuff.
Does it have a lot of storage capability?

I'll look at it.

O's Fan Rich
04-14-2009, 05:20 AM
Sorry to hear this, Rich. Keep us posted, please.

I'm putting the car into"tear down" position tonight.


My plan is to pull the front clip so I can do a real thorough inspection and clean up. Gonna just take my time.

If it were my DD.... It'd be up and running by now.

burt ragio
04-14-2009, 05:39 AM
Tell me more about a liveWire or full time data logger. Are they the same thing ? Do you simply plug these into the USB port under the steering colum? Other than air fuel ratio what else dose this monitor ?

rayjay
04-14-2009, 05:53 AM
Sorry to hear this Rich.

Haggis
04-14-2009, 06:03 AM
Sorry to hear this Rich.

He did it on purpose so he could get a new motor. I bet Michelle does not know the whole story; don't worry I wont tell....for a price. ;)

juno
04-14-2009, 10:32 AM
I have found with my Eaton conversion that there is slight detonation after the 2-3 shift when the load drastically increases.
If the timing tables are not perfect, detonation occurs. Ive been trying to sort it out for a few weeks now and Im still not done.

Zack,

Isn't this why some of the tuners are pulling the check valves out of the fuel system? (2-3 shift detonation)

FordNut
04-14-2009, 10:34 AM
I believe it's for a hesitation or bogging on shifts, not detonation.

juno
04-14-2009, 10:35 AM
A dyno tune just CANT simulate the actual driving conditions, period.
Sure you can just back the timing off across the board a whole lot, but whats the point? I want every possible degree of timing where I can stuff it in.

You should see what a pain it is to get a good turbo tune on a 4500 car. The dyno tuning can't even get close to the way the turbo loads on the street. It's all about the street tune.

rayjay
04-15-2009, 06:15 AM
IIRC, Lidio also does really world street tunes, for a price of course.

Fourth Horseman
04-15-2009, 10:16 PM
Blew up my motor today!!!


Sorry to read about the bad luck, Rich. You're certainly taking it better than I would (will). Good luck with the rebuild. Can't wait to see the numbers you put down with a forged engine.