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the fat bastid
10-05-2003, 09:29 AM
2 things:

1) does everyone have that little scuff mark on the top of the body by the drivers door? in ennis i noticed that a few cars i looked at had it.( i showed it to petrograde so back me up on this :D )

its a 1 inch long scuff mark on the body of the car where the top of the drivers door meets it. there is a similar mark on the door itself. this is not just a sratch but a big white 'omg i fear that rusting' mark.

2) i noticed a big greasy thumb print on my speedometer just below the 100mph mark. i saw that 2306's car had the same. do they all have that? its easier to notice at night
MM03MOK
10-05-2003, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by the fat bastid

1) does everyone have that little scuff mark on the top of the body by the drivers door? in ennis i noticed that a few cars i looked at had it.( i showed it to petrograde so back me up on this :D )

its a 1 inch long scuff mark on the body of the car where the top of the drivers door meets it. there is a similar mark on the door itself. this is not just a sratch but a big white 'omg i fear that rusting' mark.
Like this?
MM03MOK
10-05-2003, 09:48 AM
Yup! Driver's side. Wondered about that..... Never thought to ask others about it.
the fat bastid
10-05-2003, 09:48 AM
bingo! spot on bunny.
that one acutally looks good compared to mine.
looking97233
10-05-2003, 09:53 AM
Wow, that's pretty bad. I noticed the front doors hit the body when my car was new. I made them adjust the front doors before I would buy the car. This is a known issue for panther platform cars leaving the factory. Aparently they can't seem to allign the doors at St. Thomas. I would think that this would be a waranity covered repair. Meaning the fixing of the paint.
MMdriver03
10-05-2003, 10:28 AM
I do not have that on any of my doors. :)
Petrograde
10-05-2003, 10:35 AM
yup,... here's mine.
Paul T. Casey
10-05-2003, 11:33 AM
No apparent damage on mine in this locale. Do have a "touch-up"on roof about 3" inboard of sill line however.
Bigdogjim
10-05-2003, 12:53 PM
I had my doors alined by the fellow that detailed my car before I left for Texas. (he noticed it)

Speedo is clear!

When its goes into tehe bady shop in Monday they will fix the paint.
SouLRioT
10-05-2003, 01:12 PM
I have the same, and the first time i saw it i put some touch up paint on it, but that came off quickly. Was just waiting to see if anything else needed to be fixed befor i brought it in. Plus I dont recall seeing a thumb print on her.
GodOSpeed
10-05-2003, 02:38 PM
fat Yes and Yes. Had my doors adjusted and touched up and a new inst. cluster installed. That one came complete with greasy smudge too.
scareme
10-05-2003, 02:47 PM
Got one on my door too, any chance of getting a free paint job from the dealer for it:D
JohnnyB
10-05-2003, 03:12 PM
I got the scuff mark also.
Kelly
10-05-2003, 04:26 PM
Same here. :(
Zack
10-05-2003, 04:49 PM
The 04's are shipped with a plastic 'bumper' in that spot to prevent it from happening.
TripleTransAm
10-05-2003, 05:01 PM
I don't recall having seen that mark on my car (I'll check when I go for my daily 'visit' tomorrow). However, my driver's door is just a tad tougher to close on the first attempt than the others... ie. I sometimes have to try twice if I'm limp-wristed with my closing attempt. I've thought about having the door adjusted but now I'm having second thoughts.... with my luck I'd have to put the car on a frame alignment rack by the time we got to the root cause. ;)

So I think I'll live with the door as is, and avoid any scuff marks.
Petrograde
10-05-2003, 05:16 PM
I just got done Zaino'ing my MM and I noticed another scuff on the passenger side rear door :(
Cooper
10-05-2003, 05:34 PM
My '02 LX Sport (built 12/4/01) has the scuff too... but to be honest, I probably would never have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out.
cruzer
10-05-2003, 08:00 PM
I have the "splatter pattern" on the inside of my instrument panel glass also
Zack
10-05-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by cruzer
I have the "splatter pattern" on the inside of my instrument panel glass also

I took my instrument cluster out just to Windex the plexiglass covering the gauges. Looks awesome now!!
Bigdogjim
10-05-2003, 10:07 PM
Just a FYI do not use any ammonia base product on plexiglass as it will cloud the plexiglass over time...............
RCSignals
10-06-2003, 12:50 AM
Zack, shipped with as in a temporary bumper for shipping only, or is it something that's been added?
lshultz
10-06-2003, 04:52 AM
I have the same area scuff on my 03 LX Sport...thought it was just poor alignment on my door, but DAMN, I think a majority of these cars have the same problem...gonna point it out to my SM...thanks again MM.NET..you come thru again...:D :D
merc
10-06-2003, 06:35 AM
Wow, I was just talking to MAD-3R and his Wife last week on these same issues concerning scuffmarks. My driver’s side door has the same markings as depicted on the photos. The dealer could not figure out the problem and referred me to a body shop for warrenty repairs.
Racerx88
10-06-2003, 06:40 AM
I've got it too. I just attributed it to the door closing hard, and momentarily compressing the weatherstripping, alllowing the door to touch the body, leaving that little rub spot. I've got it on both front doors.
MAD-3R
10-06-2003, 06:43 AM
I saw Merc's and thought it might be due to speed bumps, but the door closing sounds like it might be also... I don't slam car doors, and cring when anyone does.

Those black edge guards might be something to look into instaslling at the top of the doors.
SergntMac
10-06-2003, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Zack
I took my instrument cluster out just to Windex the plexiglass covering the gauges. Looks awesome now!!


Originally posted by RCSignals
Zack, shipped with as in a temporary bumper for shipping only, or is it something that's been added?

I think what Zack is explaining is that the dash cluster is rather easy to remove and clean. All you need is the time and patience to uncsrew everything. The only "special" tool you need, are the FMC "forks" to pull the radio, about 5 bucks a set at any auto parts store. The dash cluster can be pulled out, and the clear plastic lense removed for cleaning inside. Takes about an hour, and it demystifies how the dash assembly is constructed. It's all modular plug-in to the wiring harness.
MMpridenjoy
10-06-2003, 07:49 AM
Yep, I have the same thing on mine. Same spot. Hmmmmmm.....
amerikan
10-06-2003, 09:36 AM
Yea i have one too, and its rusting. going to the dealer soon.
nexstar7
10-06-2003, 09:53 AM
oh yea, i go it to.
O's Fan Rich
10-06-2003, 01:46 PM
I got that , too.
I also have a rub mark on the front door jamb, at the lower hinge. Drivers side.
My 99 Vic did not have that problem!
2003_MM_FYRE49
10-06-2003, 03:35 PM
Same problem, and the same place as everyone else. I have an appointment tomorrow to have it looked at. Will keep everyone posted as to what I find out. I thought I was the only one with this problem. I'm glad we all stick together.

Tim :fire: 49
Topher
10-06-2003, 03:49 PM
Same white mark above the driver's door on mine too. Seems to be getting a bit longer over time. I guess another service visit is in order soon, before it starts to rust....
RCSignals
10-06-2003, 09:54 PM
about the Radio removal tool.
If you have a "CarToys" in town, check with them. They sell "Blauplunkt" stereos, and every one comes with a set of those tools. They end up with stacks of the tools, and often will just give them away
SouLRioT
10-16-2003, 03:38 PM
I just dropped off my car today to get this fixed, will give feed back when i hear something. In the mean time got my (loner)focus to have fun with.
SouLRioT
10-16-2003, 03:39 PM
ps LmL, any suggestions on stuff i should do with the focus?
BlackVelvet
10-16-2003, 04:37 PM
Mine came with the identical scuffs over the driver door. Took care of it on my first service visit (had to leave it overnite for the paint to dry they loaned me 04 Explorer). I also asked them to check the door for being hard to open. It is still hard to open but the hinge creaks really bad now.
LincMercLover
10-16-2003, 04:55 PM
No scuff mark. No too sure about the finger print thing. I can see between 100 and 120 and kinda swoosh of light that goes between them when the interior lights are on. Thing is, it almost disappears when you lean back in the seat. So, I'm thinking that's just some sort of a reflection, I dunno...

Sou; hopefully they gave you a three door, otherwise, you were probably stuck with a four door like mine. I looked at unbolting the exhaust, but didn't have the car long enoph to do so. Anyway... go find you some black top and take a buddy to dump bleach on the passenger front tire. Don't forget to record! Oh, and e-brake slides are fun too... :D
chapel1
10-16-2003, 05:09 PM
I have the same blem on my speedometer lense.My wife saw it first from the passenger side.The dealer ordered a new speedo but I would'nt let them replace it because I was more worried as to a tech scratching or messing my Marauder up!But Zack on the other hand I would trust.
Marsha
10-17-2003, 05:32 PM
Hey I have that too - what is the solution? Do we all run to the dealer's and have them paint it or will touch up due!
Thanks,
Marsha:confused:
SouLRioT
10-17-2003, 08:13 PM
just got in from work, but a quick update, they replaced my hinges and used touch up on the marks. Morro I'll post the full tech write up. If i see wear there again dont know what to do then.
JGaignat
10-17-2003, 08:54 PM
I can't believe I don't have the scuff mark or the speedo blemish. I did notice a new paint chip from driving through all the construction garbage I have to everyday. I'll get my bottle of touch up and take care of it. I'll also buff the scuff mark I put on my rear door from hitting the wall of the garage and the other one where I got too close to the car with my cell phone on my belt