View Full Version : Kooks. check welds.
LANDY
10-19-2009, 05:44 PM
EDITED PICTURES>well i just got these from a fellow member who gave me a deal on the system.
im not comfortable with the welds. im planning to fix the welds @ work tomorrow with a MIC and some good old tymers who know their stuff.
is it a good idea?
the gentleman that i bought them from had them in the car after the job was done, didnt leak according to him. but i just need peace of mind.
pics. thanks
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1866.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1867.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1868.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1870.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1871.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1873.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1875.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1878.jpg
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 05:47 PM
those are definitly NOT kooks welds.....
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 05:49 PM
btw those pics suck! lol
LANDY
10-19-2009, 05:49 PM
sorry for the quality of the pic guys i dont know how to make them smaller
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 05:50 PM
so who is responsible for that abortion of a weld? :lol:
LANDY
10-19-2009, 05:54 PM
some guy in california i guess.
i have had the mig in my hands about 3 times and i can do better than that.
thats part of my concern.
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 05:55 PM
lol good luck man. fyi Kooks are stainless so you will need stainless wire.
NATEHAWK
10-19-2009, 05:57 PM
My Kooks dont look anything like that...Sounds like you brought a pair of Crooks lol
I wouldn't call that welding, it looks more like melding. I had to fail some welds on the USS Carl Vinson today and they looked better than those. I would not attempt to shave those dingle berries down flush (inside the pipe), as that will only make things worse. But hey if they don't leak, they are doing thier job.
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
My Kooks dont look anything like that...Sounds like you brought a pair of Crooks lol
LOL, crooks!!! :laugh: :rofl:
LANDY
10-19-2009, 06:02 PM
well let me try
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1866.jpg?t=1256000902
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1867-1.jpg?t=1256001107
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1873-1.jpg?t=1256001179
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1871.jpg?t=1256001247
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll166/lizz629/100_1878.jpg?t=1256001333
Joe Walsh
10-19-2009, 06:25 PM
Was that guy using brazing rods and a Mapp gas torch???
Or maybe grey colored wax!?!?
LANDY
10-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Was that guy using brazing rods and a Mapp gas torch???
Or maybe grey colored wax!?!?
:lol:
thats what i thought.
Was that guy using brazing rods and a Mapp gas torch???
Or maybe grey colored wax!?!?
Hey man, I've used a coat hanger and an oxy/acetelyne rig to weld before....:cool:
Joe Walsh
10-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Hey man, I've used a coat hanger and an oxy/acetelyne rig to weld before....:cool:
Yeah, but you've also use duct tape on cows to....well.....err......never mind!......:P
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 06:47 PM
Hey man, I've used a coat hanger and an oxy/acetelyne rig to weld before....:cool:
ive done this many times. works great.
NATEHAWK
10-19-2009, 06:49 PM
Crooks Crooks Crooks LLS
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 06:49 PM
what the hell is this lss you keep posting?
LANDY
10-19-2009, 07:11 PM
you mean lls!
but what is it?
Spectragod
10-19-2009, 07:17 PM
MACRO is your friend...
LANDY
10-19-2009, 07:21 PM
who is MACRO? and y is he my friend?
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 07:22 PM
who is MACRO? and y is he my friend?
on your camera. its WIN for close ups
NATEHAWK
10-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Laughing Like $h!t
LANDY
10-19-2009, 07:30 PM
on your camera. its WIN for close ups
oops! he doesnt kno, he is a little technology challenged sometime. :coolman:
lizz:P
Jason White
10-19-2009, 07:32 PM
Definitely not Kooks welds. I have a custom set of 2 1/4 inch primary, 4" collector stainless headers on my race car Kooks built for me. They do top notch TIG welds, thats definitely someone trying to MIG those babies....:eek:
ImpalaSlayer
10-19-2009, 07:34 PM
Definitely not Kooks welds. I have a custom set of 2 1/4 inch primary, 4" collector stainless headers on my race car Kooks built for me. They do top notch TIG welds, thats definitely someone trying to MIG those babies....:eek:
did you say 2.25 primaries? holy crap!!
Jason White
10-19-2009, 07:38 PM
Yeah, they are a custom stepped set from 2"-2.25 to 4" collector. My 412" SBF has Yates heads, all-aluminum, dry-sump, with 2 stages of nitrous makes 960hp on motor and approx 16-1700hp on both stages. I shift at 9,200rpm which is why the headers need to be BIG....LOL
LANDY
10-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Definitely not Kooks welds. I have a custom set of 2 1/4 inch primary, 4" collector stainless headers on my race car Kooks built for me. They do top notch TIG welds, thats definitely someone trying to MIG those babies....:eek:
Im back.
that means no MIG tomorrow @ work. hah and it also means that if i leave them like that it will eventually break.
here we go now.
just hope TIG welds arent that expensive.
babbage
10-19-2009, 08:04 PM
I'm wondering why you cant grind out the inside?? The inside like that will hurt flow a lot. I know nothing really about welding, but that doesn't look at all like a proper job.
I'm wondering why you cant grind out the inside?? The inside like that will hurt flow a lot. I know nothing really about welding, but that doesn't look at all like a proper job.
I'll try and give a short, down and dirty explaination. What has happened is the welds have heated up, and almost blown thru, the pipe wall. If you grind out what is there, you take out what little bit of pipe wall is left holding that "stuff" together. Crap, that wasn't really short.
cougar9150
10-19-2009, 08:22 PM
Wow you were not kidding when you said they looked bad earlier. Definitely not like the welds on mine. Wonder what the reasoning was for that? Mine had a crack but nothing that required that kind of work. I hope your able to find a good local exhaust shop to clean them up for you. Not sure what it would cost though.
LANDY
10-19-2009, 08:38 PM
agreed.
time to make phone calls tomorrow.
LANDY
10-19-2009, 09:30 PM
I'll try and give a short, down and dirty explaination. What has happened is the welds have heated up, and almost blown thru, the pipe wall. If you grind out what is there, you take out what little bit of pipe wall is left holding that "stuff" together. Crap, that wasn't really short.
CBT i dont understand, do you mean that the weld from the outside went trough the metal all the way to the inside? and it was never welded inside.
:help:
-Matt-
10-19-2009, 09:33 PM
CBT i dont understand, do you mean that the weld from the outside went trough the metal all the way to the inside? and it was never welded inside.
:help:
exactly, a form of "blowthrough"
There was prolly a crack there and the weld was to hot and was blowing into the pipe. And thats what your seeing
LANDY
10-20-2009, 03:34 AM
exactly, a form of "blowthrough"
There was prolly a crack there and the weld was to hot and was blowing into the pipe. And thats what your seeing
is it fixible?
i have a friend on another town that makes stailess gas tanks he is a great welder.
is it fixible?
i have a friend on another town that makes stailess gas tanks he is a great welder.
Headers pipes are thin, just looks like they ran the welds a little too hot. If they don't leak, save the money of trying to make them look purty and just run them because the more you grind and weld on something, the weaker it gets.
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