Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger

[bawazir]

Hi guys,
At last I saved all money, got my new tires done, fixed the aligment issue i think, and did tune up, thanks to all of you in here who helped me out with all my questions. But now that time has come to buy a SUPERCHARGER YES YES YES!!!!!!! :banana:

I need all the MM owner opinion. Which one should i get? Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger??
I know Trilogy is little bit cheaper? but i want to know if i am going install any of the charger do i have to modify my engine? Do i have to put heavy duty gaskets? i know for sure i need tuner & 4.10 gears? but any engine work need to be done before the s/c???????

Thank you guys in advance!

[fastblackmerc]

Hi guys,
At last I saved all money, got my new tires done, fixed the aligment issue i think, and did tune up, thanks to all of you in here who helped me out with all my questions. But now that time has come to buy a SUPERCHARGER YES YES YES!!!!!!! :banana:

I need all the MM owner opinion. Which one should i get? Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger??
I know Trilogy is little bit cheaper? but i want to know if i am going install any of the charger do i have to modify my engine? Do i have to put heavy duty gaskets? i know for sure i need tuner & 4.10 gears? but any engine work need to be done before the s/c???????

Thank you guys in advance!
Actually the Trilogy is more expensive than a Vortech. What you also need to look at is the support before, during and after the purchase. The Trilogy support is world-class, bar none.

IMHO... The Trilogy SC actually looks like it belongs on the engine, not an afterthought. :flamer: :flamer:

There is slight modifications with any SC install, but no internal modifications if you run the car sensibly.

No you don't need heavy duty gaskets :shake::shake: Don't think anyone makes HD gaskets.....

The Trilogy SC comes with a tune and tuner I believe.

As for the 4.10 gears you might want to rethink that one..... you'll end up burning off the rear tires......

You need to do some homework.

You sound just like Motorhead350........ :shake::shake::shake::shake:

[bawazir]

[QUOTE=fastblackmerc;836875]Actually the Trilogy is more expensive than a Vortech. What you also need to look at is the support before, during and after the purchase. The Trilogy support is world-class, bar none.

IMHO... The Trilogy SC actually looks like it belongs on the engine, not an afterthought. :flamer: :flamer:

There is slight modifications with any SC install, but no internal modifications if you run the car sensibly.

No you don't need heavy duty gaskets :shake::shake: Don't think anyone makes HD gaskets.....

The Trilogy SC comes with a tune and tuner I believe.

As for the 4.10 gears you might want to rethink that one..... you'll end up burning off the rear tires......

You need to do some homework.

i think your right Trilogy SC would do the work for me...

[justbob]

Check sig.

If you don't beat the livin snot out of the car then a Trilogy, Jmod, and Control arms will suit you just fine. Perhaps take a ride in several different members cars before you purchase.

[DOOM]

Go for the trilogy! :banana2:

You won't need the 4:10 gears with the trilogy but you would with the vortec.

[DOOM]

There's a reason why over 200 kits were sold. :up:

[Cheeseheadbob]

I'll make it easy for you. Both. Buy two Marauders and install the Trilogy on one and the Vortech on the other. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger??

[frdwrnch]

Take the time to drive one of each if you can. I have a trilogy and prefer it personally. I like the fit and finish of the roots style blower and the linear feel of the power curve. The vortech seems to have a more "peaky" power curve but may make more power depending on which blower you get and what supporting modifications are done. It's a personal choice.

[joemama]

There's a reason why over 200 kits were sold. :up:


+1! Its a no brainer...:cool4:

[ImpalaSlayer]

kits are for losers

[CWright]

Take the time to drive one of each if you can. I have a trilogy and prefer it personally. I like the fit and finish of the roots style blower and the linear feel of the power curve. The vortech seems to have a more "peaky" power curve but may make more power depending on which blower you get and what supporting modifications are done. It's a personal choice.


+1 on this. I have the paxton novi air to air. A few weeks ago I drove a Gen 1 and a second Gen trilogy. Both cars are awesome. I really like the air to air. Mine made 389 w supercharger then I added headers and it went to 461 on 9.5 lbs of boost. I am not going to persuade you either way. I would say drive each and get a feel for what you like. Plus I am still running the 3:55 gears. I wish you the best. If you go air to air I definitely recommend headers as well. Really opens up the motor.

[DEFYANT]

Search the site!

Then get a tall glass of Kool Aid.

Drink it.

Call Jerry Barnes at Trilogy and place your order.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Actually the Trilogy is more expensive than a Vortech. What you also need to look at is the support before, during and after the purchase. The Trilogy support is world-class, bar none.

IMHO... The Trilogy SC actually looks like it belongs on the engine, not an afterthought. :flamer: :flamer:

There is slight modifications with any SC install, but no internal modifications if you run the car sensibly.

No you don't need heavy duty gaskets :shake::shake: Don't think anyone makes HD gaskets.....

The Trilogy SC comes with a tune and tuner I believe.

As for the 4.10 gears you might want to rethink that one..... you'll end up burning off the rear tires......

You need to do some homework.

You sound just like Motorhead350........ :shake::shake::shake::shake:


i called them multiple times and left messages with no return call. yeah there awesome:rolleyes:

[CWright]

Sorry for double post there. Was doing from my phone.

[Bluerauder]

Hi guys,
At last I saved all money, got my new tires done, fixed the aligment issue i think, and did tune up, thanks to all of you in here who helped me out with all my questions. But now that time has come to buy a SUPERCHARGER YES YES YES!!!!!!! :banana:

I need all the MM owner opinion. Which one should i get? Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger??
I know Trilogy is little bit cheaper? but i want to know if i am going install any of the charger do i have to modify my engine? Do i have to put heavy duty gaskets? i know for sure i need tuner & 4.10 gears? but any engine work need to be done before the s/c???????

Thank you guys in advance!

Why do I get the feeling that Aren Jay is back and having a little fun with us? :shake:

[fastblackmerc]

Why do I get the feeling that Aren Jay is back and having a little fun with us? :shake:

No it's Motorhead350.

[dohc324ci]

Personally I would go with the Twin Screw with these boats! But since I am in Cali...Novi 1500 SL + 12LB + BBS should suffice!

[ntd]

Personally I would go with the Twin Screw with these boats! But since I am in Cali...Novi 1500 SL + 12LB + BBS should suffice!

x2 I was originally looking at doing an Eaton conversion so I could slap on a Whipple later. But a centrifugal deal feel in my lap:burnout:

[MarauderTJA]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn: You guys should have been around a few years ago during the :bows:Supercharger wars. Bottom line, each has its place depending on your wants and needs and all are good. :beer:. It is called choice.

[Local Boy]

Boost IS Boost - Whatever form it comes in...IT'S BOOST

You'll be happy either way..

If it's worth anything...I have both Roots and a Centri...

IMHO:

Roots = Instant thrust

Centri's = Smooth after burners

Good Luck...

Aloha

[offroadkarter]

Personally I would go with the Twin Screw with these boats! But since I am in Cali...Novi 1500 SL + 12LB + BBS should suffice!



Trilogy doesn't sell the 2.3 TS anymore :(


Easy come easy go i guess

[Bradley G]

I went positive displacement, see the sig :D

[Spectragod]

Trilogy doesn't sell the 2.3 TS anymore :(


Easy come easy go i guess

Glad I got mine, the tire dealer loves me. :D

[dohc324ci]

x2 I was originally looking at doing an Eaton conversion so I could slap on a Whipple later. But a centrifugal deal feel in my lap:burnout:

So your the culprit who bought my blower! How does the Novi Kit feel?

[jflave]

Go for the trilogy! :banana2:

You won't need the 4:10 gears with the trilogy but you would with the vortec.
I don't understand that statement, why no 4:10 w/trilogy ? :thinker:

[252life]

I don't understand that statement, why no 4:10 w/trilogy ? :thinker:

4:10's work great to make up for lackluster bottom-end performance, you don't need that with a Trilogy.
The 4:10's will have a negative effect on top speed and gas milage, a MMC driveshaft is probably also needed $$...

(Wider tires and headers are better mods for a Trilogy car)

[ntd]

So your the culprit who bought my blower! How does the Novi Kit feel?
Sorry about that. Its not installed yet I have almost all the parts I need, just need a maf and a fuel system. Then I'll make my own intake tubing. Once all the bugs are worked out, Time for a new engine and I'll spin the snot out of that Paxton should be fun:burnout:.

[Marauderman]

Hi guys,
At last I saved all money, got my new tires done, fixed the aligment issue i think, and did tune up, thanks to all of you in here who helped me out with all my questions. But now that time has come to buy a SUPERCHARGER YES YES YES!!!!!!! :banana:

I need all the MM owner opinion. Which one should i get? Trilogy supercharger or Vortech supercharger??
I know Trilogy is little bit cheaper? but i want to know if i am going install any of the charger do i have to modify my engine? Do i have to put heavy duty gaskets? i know for sure i need tuner & 4.10 gears? but any engine work need to be done before the s/c???????

Thank you guys in advance!


So, now you have the results from many post here on those which enhance the MM.

Now its up to you--as it was for us---each decided on their own preference --the differences are:

1. Cost
2. Immediate Boost vs Boost later in the pedal.
3. Higher gears now or later: Trilogy not needed but maybe a "want"
Non-roots will "need" the higher gears, but can be done later as you wish.
4. Exhaust : either open it up on install or later.

As you can see here , it is just what everyone has indicated ...its a CHOICE. of what you like and when you want to upgrade. Since everything is money, most do or did theirs in stages, which is recommended to "feel" what your buying and its rewards before it gets lost in so much of an " all at once syndrome" as many have done --like myself.

Trilogy gives you immediate and centrifugal blowers take some help Their add on cost basically equal up to the same in the beginning stages, depending on the add-ons .

So you say you have saved some money ---wonderful...now check around on what we have told you about and see how much you have left---that usually sets the target on what and where you will go ..The rest can come on at a later time...and it will....cause we all do it!!!!!!

Keep us posted on what you decide and how it goes.........

[fastblackmerc]

I don't understand that statement, why no 4:10 w/trilogy ? :thinker:

The 4.10 are used to get our 4000 lb boat moving from a standstill. Since the 4.6 doesn't have alot of torque in the lower RPM range you need the 4.10 to get the car rolling.

If you add a Trilogy SC you no long have a torque issues at lower RPM. If fact you'll NEVER have torque issues again!

[johnnyrauder]

i have the vortech v3 with blow through and have no low end torque problems
or high end for that matter..with 410s

[bigmerc'03]

i have a VORTECH v2 SQ with 410s with no problems getting off the line or holding the power at high end
my first day was like this:drive: and i got this from people:awe::loco::mad2::censor ::nono: and now 7 years later i get these all day:up::up::up:

[Undying1]

Go for a large turbo

[BODYMAN]

i called them multiple times and left messages with no return call. yeah there awesome:rolleyes:

+1 on that was working on another members trilogy car and had a few questions 2 or 3 messages and no return call! The other one has always called me right back or e-mailed me back?

[281MERC]

what viscosity of gear oil are you running?

[bob6364]

Sooooooooooo....How does someone come to this site and hit on every single subject that has caused a locked thread all in a 3 week period and never been here before...you havent asked about same size tires all the way around or larger brakes or did I miss those....

[SC Cheesehead]

bob, you forgot "what's the best oil to use" :rolleyes:

[Phrog_gunner]

No it's Motorhead350.

Seems like he would have been smart enough to put a different state than the one hes from.

[DOOM]

Seems like he would have been smart enough to put a different state than the one hes from.

You dont know dom very well do you? :flamer:

[SC Cheesehead]

Is this really Dom?

We haven't heard from him in a while.

Wait, no, it isn't AJ back to haunt us, is it? :rolleyes:

[bawazir]

Thank you guys for your help & support. I finally made my decision and i decided to go with Trilogy. Just got off the phone with Jerry and he is selling me a kit for $6000 and it includes everything i will need. Hopefully whiten this month i have the payment sent to him and get my s/c in my car.

[CWright]

Thank you guys for your help & support. I finally made my decision and i decided to go with Trilogy. Just got off the phone with Jerry and he is selling me a kit for $6000 and it includes everything i will need. Hopefully whiten this month i have the payment sent to him and get my s/c in my car.

:congrats::burn::2thumbs:

[Local Boy]

Let the show begin!...:beer:

Aloha

[DOOM]

Thank you guys for your help & support. I finally made my decision and i decided to go with Trilogy. Just got off the phone with Jerry and he is selling me a kit for $6000 and it includes everything i will need. Hopefully whiten this month i have the payment sent to him and get my s/c in my car.

:banana2: :burnout: :burn: :2thumbs:

:beer:

[hotford]

Yes another trilogy MM I too was on the phone with Jerry last week and I too am waiting for the kit to be prepared.
Great choice!

I do love my centi blowers to as my ModFox runs one with kick ass results.

[justbob]

Congrats man!

[dohc324ci]

Congrats Man...if I had a choice thats what I would go with. Vortech/Paxton is my only choice in Cali...

[breeze]

GOOD JOB!!!...yea, i wana do alot of bolt-ons so i can try to hit 12's N/A but im thinking about not dicking around will all the mods (gear, intake spacer etc.) and just run my full exhaust, J-mod and slap the Roots blower on and call it a day.

[bawazir]

Like I said to everyone that i am going to place my Trilogy S/C this month. and since than i have been swamped with lot's of PM from differnt members asking me to look in to Dennis Reinhart kit, before making any decision. I really like both kits. but i need more feed back about Dennis Reinhart kit. Do we have any owners with Marauder Vortech air to air supercharger kit. and how dose this kit work with a stock rear end. I am not planning on getting a 4.10 gear.

Thank you guys in advance for your help and support.

[-Matt-]

Edit: thread was combined

[bawazir]

You had to make a new thread about this why?


sorry about that

[Blackened300a]

Try reading some of the vendor reviews and then make a choice. If you have decided on the Trilogy then go for it. Its a great set-up that makes a lot of power.

[FordNut]

Supercharger!

[CWright]

Like I said to everyone that i am going to place my Trilogy S/C this month. and since than i have been swamped with lot's of PM from differnt members asking me to look in to Dennis Reinhart kit, before making any decision. I really like both kits. but i need more feed back about Dennis Reinhart kit. Do we have any owners with Marauder Vortech air to air supercharger kit. and how dose this kit work with a stock rear end. I am not planning on getting a 4.10 gear.

Thank you guys in advance for your help and support.



I will say I looked at both kits. I personally like the air to air. Dennis did mine at the end of last year. I have 53k on my clock now. We started out with the S/C only and car made 389 to rear tires. I then decided to go with Kooks headers and car went up to 9.5 lbs of boost making 461 to rear tires. I am very satisfied with the set up on my car. I've driven a trilogy car as well. Both are nice and it just depends on your preference. I am also leaving stock 3.55 in car. I know I could get better out of hole with 4.10's but I'm staying stock. If you have any questions shoot me a PM. All in all it depends on your goals for your car. Good luck on your decision.

[justbob]

Look man, if you want a blower for in town fun with nothing more than a jmod then get the Trilogy.

If you want to race the thing, then I would get the centri (not saying roots is bad by any stretch). This has been beat to death over the years. It's all about your ultimate goals! Do you maintain your car regularly and willing to learn how to change your own blower oil?(does vortec pipe off the oil pan? or self contained?) Do you drive your car when it's 0* out? Do you show your car and want it to look stock? They all build awesome power, it's only a preference not worth starting more arguements over. Set a deadline date, lose sleep if you have to, and pick up the phone and order it on that deadline!

You will be happy with whatever you get, just don't settle for price.

[-Matt-]

(does vortec pipe off the oil pan? or self contained?)

uses cars oil source

[DOOM]

There is a reason why over 200 trilogy kits were sold. :up:

[a_d_a_m]

Do you maintain your car regularly and willing to learn how to change your own blower oil? Spoiler alert (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58818)!

[Motorhead350]

You sound just like Motorhead350........ :shake::shake::shake::shake:

Wow you actually remember me posting something just like this about six years ago.

[Kennyrauder]

I have a Vortech... still love that whistle. It's just nice to know another Marauder is getting muscled up. Remember whether it's a Trilogy. Vortech or any other power adder, respect the power & don't get hurt fooling around. You are playing with a whole new animal. Good Luck.

[-Matt-]

Whistle > Whine IMO

[johnnyrauder]

the v3 has very low wine i'd say just eough

[dohc324ci]

Man I want the DR Vortech Kit BAD...LOL V3 self lube any better than the V2?

[babbage]

Whistle > Whine IMO

quit banging your head and get yours installed already! ;)

[babbage]

What's the deal with 0 degree weather? I'm not in the market for SC (right now) but if I do drive when it's very cold out which setup is better?

[-Matt-]

quit banging your head and get yours installed already! ;)

C'mon down and help out!

[DOOM]

What's the deal with 0 degree weather? I'm not in the market for SC (right now) but if I do drive when it's very cold out which setup is better?

Trilogy. :D

[-Matt-]

Trilogy. :D


Lies...... Vortech

[DOOM]

Lies...... Vortech

:shake:.......

[RR|Suki]

Vortech blowers (and paxton) do have a warning saying not to start the car under a certain temp (can't remember the exact temp right now). When I say the warning I was concerned about it, however I've driven my car every winter since 05.... so yeah, might be one of those cover yourself kind of things after all.

[babbage]

C'mon down and help out!


I grew up in East Texas - I miss it a bit! I've never installed an SC kit before.

Some day...

[-Matt-]

I grew up in East Texas - I miss it a bit! I've never installed an SC kit before.

Some day...

Always a first time!! FREE BEER!!! :beer:

[justbob]

What's the deal with 0 degree weather? I'm not in the market for SC (right now) but if I do drive when it's very cold out which setup is better?

I have driven my Trilogy in -10* weather and raced in 105* with never a hiccup.

[Motorhead350]

I started and drove my Procharged Marauder when it was -17. No problems!

[RR|Suki]

I started and drove my Procharged Marauder when it was -17. No problems!

Doesn't yours spring leaks constantly though :P

[johnnyrauder]

pm me i have one

[Motorhead350]

Doesn't yours spring leaks constantly though :P

I drained all of the oil so it doesn't leak anymore.

[RR|Suki]

I drained all of the oil so it doesn't leak anymore.

I hope you got the Teflon gears

[DOOM]

Doesn't yours spring leaks constantly though :P

FAIL! :lol:

[Marauder131]

Thank you guys for your help & support. I finally made my decision and i decided to go with Trilogy. Just got off the phone with Jerry and he is selling me a kit for $6000 and it includes everything i will need. Hopefully whiten this month i have the payment sent to him and get my s/c in my car.

Wise choice.

[Zack]

LOL we just bought all the parts for me to Eaton Swap his car.

[ImpalaSlayer]

LOL we just bought all the parts for me to Eaton Swap his car.

will it still drive sideways?

[joemama]

Wise choice.

I agree! You cannot go wrong with a Trilogy kit. :bows:

My only regrets are that I did not buy one sooner...:D

Too bad there are no more twin screws though...:(

[DOOM]

Too bad there are no more twin screws though...:(

Tell me about it! :depress: :alone:

[Zack]

I agree! You cannot go wrong with a Trilogy kit. :bows:

My only regrets are that I did not buy one sooner...:D

Too bad there are no more twin screws though...:(


Tell me about it! :depress: :alone:

You guys KILL ME!

All you need is a Lysholm compressor and the correct length snout!

Talk to these guys and they will fix you up.

www.psesuperchargers.com

[ImpalaSlayer]

You guys KILL ME!

All you need is a Lysholm compressor and the correct length snout!

Talk to these guys and they will fix you up.

www.psesuperchargers.com (http://www.psesuperchargers.com)

or a whipple!

[Zack]

(I think) The Lysholm will accept the Trilogy rear inlet as a direct fit, most definitely not the Whipple.

Im gonna PM Tallboy for some answers.

[-Matt-]

Its so nice to have you back, zack (that rhymes btw)

[ImpalaSlayer]

(I think) The Lysholm will accept the Trilogy rear inlet as a direct fit, most definitely not the Whipple.

Im gonna PM Tallboy for some answers.

i wasnt talking about that i ment rip off that ugly trilogy and pop on a real blower!

[ntd]

You guys KILL ME!

All you need is a Lysholm compressor and the correct length snout!

Talk to these guys and they will fix you up.

www.psesuperchargers.com (http://www.psesuperchargers.com)

You Sir are a wealth of information and very useful contacts:beer:.

[Phrog_gunner]

Its so nice to have you back, zack (that rhymes btw)

Me too, that way you can mark out to Z and get off my sack for a while.

[-Matt-]

Me too, that way you can mark out to Z and get off my sack for a while.

Im already off your sack, im hanging with the cool people with flags now :)

[ntd]

Im already off your sack, im hanging with the cool people with flags now :)

where's CBT perfect that what she said opportunity:D

[Glenn]

I know one ugly Trilogy that will hand your hat to everyone on this post except one. :banana2:

Glenn Ford :burnout:

[ImpalaSlayer]

I know one ugly Trilogy that will hand your hat to everyone on this post except one. :banana2:

Glenn Ford :burnout:

still ugly with that flip over intake. my intake is on the correct side :P

[bawazir]

Wise choice.

Just changed my mind, am going Zackrilogy instead of Trilogy :banana2:

[breeze]

Search the site!

Then get a tall glass of Kool Aid.

Drink it.

Call Jerry Barnes at Trilogy and place your order.

i'll b sure to dat when im S/C ready...lol

[Spectragod]

(I think) The Lysholm will accept the Trilogy rear inlet as a direct fit, most definitely not the Whipple.

Im gonna PM Tallboy for some answers.

There is an adapter plate between the rear inlet and the Lysholm, at least there is on my car. :confused:

I don't know if the Eaton uses the same adapter plate or not.

[FordNut]

(I think) The Lysholm will accept the Trilogy rear inlet as a direct fit, most definitely not the Whipple.

Im gonna PM Tallboy for some answers.

The ones I've seen had a different adapter plate.

[merc]

The ones I've seen had a different adapter plate.

Different bolt pattern.

http://www.opcon.se/www/files/lysholm/pdf/dimensional%20drawings/2300AX.pdf

[-Matt-]

Just changed my mind, am going Zackrilogy instead of Trilogy :banana2:




You cant buy em on credit :rolleyes:

[ImpalaSlayer]

you cant buy em on credit :rolleyes:
doh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bawazir]

You cant buy em on credit :rolleyes:

no sir i cant, damn your f***in* smart

[DOOM]

You cant buy em on credit :rolleyes:

That's what she said! :(

[-Matt-]

no sir i cant, damn your f***in* smart

I sure am smart, thanks for noticing ;)

[bawazir]

I sure am smart, thanks for noticing ;)

Okay, okay, I take it back! Un****k you ;)

[DOOM]

i wasnt talking about that i ment rip off that ugly trilogy and pop on a real blower!

Ain't nothin ugly on trilogy #173 son!
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=417

[ImpalaSlayer]

Ain't nothin ugly on trilogy #173 son!
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=417

cant polish a turd! :D
i just dont like how it flips over, looks funny. id still buy one though.

[-Matt-]

Ain't nothin ugly on trilogy #173 son!
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=18&pictureid=417


It needs a chrome intake and chrome fuse box cover IMO :cool4:

[DOOM]

cant polish a turd! :D.

I know you can't polish yours but that dosent mean you have to call it a turd! :eek:

:lol:

[DOOM]

i just dont like how it flips over, looks funny.

THATS WHAT SHE SAID! :rofl:

[Kennyrauder]

Look Pal ,It's way passed midnight on this thread...... I don't care what the heck you buy & install but get it the ****** done. I have never seen anyone take up so much air time as you. GET IT TOGETHER OR GET ANOTHER LIFE!!!!!

[bawazir]

Look Pal ,It's way passed midnight on this thread...... I don't care what the heck you buy & install but get it the ****** done. I have never seen anyone take up so much air time as you. GET IT TOGETHER OR GET ANOTHER LIFE!!!!!


I made my decision a while ago.

[252life]

There is an adapter plate between the rear inlet and the Lysholm, at least there is on my car. :confused:


That's correct (rear inlet is also modified for the bypass actuator)

[-Matt-]

I made my decision a while ago.

So you going to sell the marauder?!?!? Congrats man!!

[MM03MOK]

We've exhausted the topic of this thread. Feel free to start a new thread for any additional topics.