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W4LTD
12-16-2009, 04:30 PM
POLICE HARASSMENT

Recently, the Chula Vista (CA) Police Department ran an e-mail forum (a
question and answer exchange) with the topic being, "Community Policing."

One of the civilian email participants posed the following question, "I
would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually
harass people and get away with it?"

>From the "other side" (the law enforcement side) Sgt. Bennett, obviously a
cop with a sense of humor replied:

"First of all, let me tell you this...it's not easy. In Chula Vista, we
average one cop for every 600 people. Only about 60% of those cops are on
general duty (or what you might refer to as "patrol") where we do most of our
harassing.

The rest are in non-harassing departments that do not allow them contact
with the day to day innocents. And at any given moment, only one-fifth of
the 60% patrollers are on duty and available for harassing people while the
rest are off duty. So roughly, one cop is responsible for harassing about
5,000 residents.

When you toss in the commercial business, and tourist locations that
attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single
cop is responsible for harassing 10,000 or more people a day.

Now, your average ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds long. This gives a
cop one second to harass a person, and then only three-fourths of a second to
eat a donut AND then find a new person to harass. This is not an easy
task. To be honest, most cops are not up to this challenge day in and day
out. It is just too tiring. What we do is utilize some tools to help us
narrow down those people which we can realistically harass.

The tools available to us are as follows:

PHONE: People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus
on a person for special harassment. "My neighbor is beating his wife" is a
code phrase used often. This means we'll come out and give somebody some
special harassment.

Another popular one is, "There's a guy breaking into a house." The
harassment team is then put into action.

CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They
like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars with no insurance or no
driver's licenses and the like. It's lots of fun when you pick them out of
traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to
really heap the harassment on when you find they have drugs in the car,
they are drunk, or have an outstanding warrant on file.

RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a
police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a
beagle on the scent of a bunny. When you catch them you can harass them for
hours.

STATUTES: When we don't have PHONES or CARS and have nothing better to do,
there are actually books that give us ideas for reasons to harass folks.
They are called "Statutes"; Criminal Codes, Motor Vehicle Codes, etc...
They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with
people.

After you read the statute, you can just drive around for awhile until you
find someone violating one of these listed offenses and harass them. Just
last week I saw a guy trying to steal a car. Well, there's this book we
have that says that's not allowed. That meant I got permission to harass
this guy. It is a really cool system that we have set up, and it works
pretty well.

We seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away
with it. Why? Because for the good citizens who pay the tab, we try to
keep the streets safe for them, and they pay us to "harass" some people.

Next time you are in my town, give me the old "single finger wave."
That's another one of those codes. It means, "You can't harass me."

Pat
12-16-2009, 05:50 PM
This is so cool, I'm taking it with me on patrol tomorrow and show it to the Major. See if he gets a chuckle.

SpartaPerformance
12-16-2009, 06:44 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol:

TAKEDOWN
12-16-2009, 07:14 PM
LOL... that's a g00d one!

LIGHTNIN1
12-16-2009, 10:21 PM
Good perspective. A lot of us street people don't know what police officers encounter daily.

LSp8
12-17-2009, 09:32 AM
There are SOME people out there that require a little harassing, like the ones that sell drugs and steal Shhhh......lol

JimP
12-17-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm on nights this weekend so looking forward to doing some good'ol fashioned harassing. I could write a book on people's complaints. My little partner has the weekend off his bedtime is 9p.m.

Hacklemerc
12-18-2009, 10:08 AM
I'm taking that in when I go to work...Our LT is gonna love that.

DEFYANT
12-18-2009, 04:30 PM
POLICE HARASSMENT

Recently, the Chula Vista (CA) Police Department ran an e-mail forum (a
question and answer exchange) with the topic being, "Community Policing."

One of the civilian email participants posed the following question, "I
would like to know how it is possible for police officers to continually
harass people and get away with it?"

>From the "other side" (the law enforcement side) Sgt. Bennett, obviously a
cop with a sense of humor replied:

"First of all, let me tell you this...it's not easy. In Chula Vista, we
average one cop for every 600 people. Only about 60% of those cops are on
general duty (or what you might refer to as "patrol") where we do most of our
harassing.

The rest are in non-harassing departments that do not allow them contact
with the day to day innocents. And at any given moment, only one-fifth of
the 60% patrollers are on duty and available for harassing people while the
rest are off duty. So roughly, one cop is responsible for harassing about
5,000 residents.

When you toss in the commercial business, and tourist locations that
attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single
cop is responsible for harassing 10,000 or more people a day.

Now, your average ten-hour shift runs 36,000 seconds long. This gives a
cop one second to harass a person, and then only three-fourths of a second to
eat a donut AND then find a new person to harass. This is not an easy
task. To be honest, most cops are not up to this challenge day in and day
out. It is just too tiring. What we do is utilize some tools to help us
narrow down those people which we can realistically harass.

The tools available to us are as follows:

PHONE: People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus
on a person for special harassment. "My neighbor is beating his wife" is a
code phrase used often. This means we'll come out and give somebody some
special harassment.

Another popular one is, "There's a guy breaking into a house." The
harassment team is then put into action.

CARS: We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive. They
like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars with no insurance or no
driver's licenses and the like. It's lots of fun when you pick them out of
traffic for nothing more obvious than running a red light. Sometimes you get to
really heap the harassment on when you find they have drugs in the car,
they are drunk, or have an outstanding warrant on file.

RUNNERS: Some people take off running just at the sight of a
police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a
beagle on the scent of a bunny. When you catch them you can harass them for
hours.

STATUTES: When we don't have PHONES or CARS and have nothing better to do,
there are actually books that give us ideas for reasons to harass folks.
They are called "Statutes"; Criminal Codes, Motor Vehicle Codes, etc...
They all spell out all sorts of things for which you can really mess with
people.

After you read the statute, you can just drive around for awhile until you
find someone violating one of these listed offenses and harass them. Just
last week I saw a guy trying to steal a car. Well, there's this book we
have that says that's not allowed. That meant I got permission to harass
this guy. It is a really cool system that we have set up, and it works
pretty well.

We seem to have a never-ending supply of folks to harass. And we get away
with it. Why? Because for the good citizens who pay the tab, we try to
keep the streets safe for them, and they pay us to "harass" some people.

Next time you are in my town, give me the old "single finger wave."
That's another one of those codes. It means, "You can't harass me."


I quoted some of this today at work. Swear on all that is holy! I love this! I had to paraphrase it, but the gist was there. This guy was mad because I had a warrant for his kid. I knocked, dad answered, told him what was up, and he launched into this "harassment" nonsense! :cool:

I came off a bit of a wise ass - I know... but he was wrong and he knew it. In the end, he apologized and told where to find his kid! :D

MyTMerc
12-18-2009, 05:43 PM
I came off a bit of a wise ass - I know... :D
This is great stuff. I'm sure police officers have plenty of great sea stories too. But it's hard to imagine you being a wise ass... cough.. cough...;)

JUST 1BULLITT
12-18-2009, 06:21 PM
AWESOME!! LOL!! (Yeah, go give 'em lots of that Special High Intesity Training too!! OR; ************ as it's known in the biz! :lol: :lol:)

STRAN
12-19-2009, 10:45 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you to the brave law enforcement officers of this great country.

W4LTD
12-20-2009, 02:42 AM
I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you to the brave law enforcement officers of this great country.

You have just earned yourself...:beer:

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