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Marauder Rick
02-15-2010, 08:26 AM
http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=71833 (http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71833)






i really need someone to do one of these the one thing that i did like about this is how the dude took out the time to do a detailed write-up with full materials and procedures. Ive been looking on here for some time and i haven't found anything like that for the eaton swap. This would be very helpfull for the less mechanically inclined (not mechanically ignorant) people who dont have a performance shop nearby. Would somebody mind doing all of the inquiring minds a service and write up how everything is done...........PLEASE




(http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71833)

musclemerc
02-15-2010, 08:33 AM
Zack's first eaton write up was very good, did you see it? You won't have to touch the timing cover!

Zack
02-15-2010, 08:33 AM
That write-up is not suited fot the Marauder....at all.

Do a search here, Im the inventor of the Marauder Eaton swap.

musclemerc
02-15-2010, 08:37 AM
Speaking of the devil! Glad you chimmed in Zack.

Marauder Rick
02-15-2010, 08:40 AM
i already know that that setup isn't the way to go. i was moreso wondering if anyone had done one so detailed for our eaton swap.

musclemerc
02-15-2010, 08:51 AM
i already know that that setup isn't the way to go. i was moreso wondering if anyone had done one so detailed for our eaton swap.

If you need that much info this may not the way for you to go. Good Lord that was a long post. Get a Trilogy!

SILVERSURFER03
02-15-2010, 09:04 AM
Ask imapala slayer he has done the swap and zack the man also

Marauder Rick
02-15-2010, 09:14 AM
If you need that much info this may not the way for you to go. Good Lord that was a long post. Get a Trilogy!

umm... doesn't the trilogy come with a long list of instructions? whats the difference.

Speed
02-15-2010, 09:20 AM
umm... doesn't the trilogy come with a long list of instructions? whats the difference.

I believe he is trying to tell you that the Trilogy comes with a book/binder with very detail instructions, pictures and all the parts.

Zack
02-15-2010, 09:23 AM
I dont have a step-by step instruction sheet, sorry.
My way is for the go-getters who can envision the end result.
If your mechanical knowledge is limited, the Trilogy is most definitely the kit for you.
There is a 3500 dollar gap between the 2 though...

Marauder Rick
02-15-2010, 09:59 AM
I dont have a step-by step instruction sheet, sorry.
My way is for the go-getters who can envision the end result.
If your mechanical knowledge is limited, the Trilogy is most definitely the kit for you.
There is a 3500 dollar gap between the 2 though...

i know my way around an engine bay. but i also know that there r snags along the way. it would be a lot easier for not just me, but the other like 10 people that have askd about the swap. i am willing to risk convenience for $3500. not to mention, this would be ANOTHER chance to do something that noone else has done.

SILVERSURFER03
02-15-2010, 10:00 AM
i believe he is trying to tell you that the trilogy comes with a book/binder with very detail instructions, pictures and all the parts.

yes doom has such book ... It's cool

Zack
02-15-2010, 10:01 AM
i know my way around an engine bay. but i also know that there r snags along the way. it would be a lot easier for not just me, but the other like 10 people that have askd about the swap. i am willing to risk convenience for $3500. not to mention, this would be ANOTHER chance to do something that noone else has done.

Many people have done swaps with the full Cobra front dress...
Make sure your wizz disk is handy to notch the frame.

-Matt-
02-15-2010, 01:04 PM
Im sure james and i could help you with the kinks along the way

Zack
02-15-2010, 01:39 PM
Im sure james and i could help you with the kinks along the way

..or put my number in your phone. :D

-Matt-
02-15-2010, 02:32 PM
..or put my number in your phone. :D

We deffently couldnt do it without your know-how. I was just saying we could help with the brain racking stuff since im local to him.


:beer:

Zack
02-15-2010, 02:47 PM
We deffently couldnt do it without your know-how. I was just saying we could help with the brain racking stuff since im local to him.


:beer:

Im trying to give impalaslayer a break!

ImpalaSlayer
02-15-2010, 03:02 PM
Im trying to give impalaslayer a break!

haha id be happy to answer any questions, i was just joking before. half the **** listed in that thread on M1R isnt even necessary for the mm. the hardest part is the cross over tube other then that its pretty much ezpz. i have another members cossover tube here im gona have shortened and tucked.

Zack
02-15-2010, 03:17 PM
haha id be happy to answer any questions, i was just joking before. half the **** listed in that thread on M1R isnt even necessary for the mm. the hardest part is the cross over tube other then that its pretty much ezpz. i have another members cossover tube here im gona have shortened and tucked.


I haz ideas for the next one i do :D

DOOM
02-15-2010, 03:43 PM
i have another members tube here im gona have shortened and tucked.

THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!! :run: :hide:

Spectragod
02-15-2010, 05:17 PM
I dont have a step-by step instruction sheet, sorry.
My way is for the go-getters who can envision the end result.
If your mechanical knowledge is limited, the Trilogy is most definitely the kit for you.
There is a 3500 dollar gap between the 2 though...

So what your saying is, that those of us who purchased Trilogy kits and did self installs, that we have limited mechanical knowledge? :confused::D

I envisioned the end result, I also envisioned a ton of parts to track down, FWIW, my TS wasn't anywhere near a $3500 difference. Cash is king, everything is negotiable.

I will agree that this is a great way to get someone into a SC'd application, and.... it uses factory parts to do so, THAT is cool.

I certainly think the Eaton is a good starting point, anymore though, superchargers are like computers, they are outdated in 6 months when something newer, faster, better looking comes along. I look at it like this, as long as the Mustang guys are pulling these off their cars, we can buy them cheap and get the power to where it should have been in the first place.

I really believe that if someone could source a shop that was doing the conversions on the Mustangs, cook up a deal with them, that the parts could be sourced for half of what they are going for. And of course we have a couple of board members who have done the swaps that are ready to lend a helping hand, pass on info etc., all of which is why this board has the traffic that it does, because of quality of the membership here. :beer:

FordNut
02-15-2010, 05:22 PM
So what your saying is, that those of us who purchased Trilogy kits and did self installs, that we have limited mechanical knowledge? :confused::D

I think he's saying you have instructions.

Spectragod
02-15-2010, 05:43 PM
I think he's saying you have instructions.

Yeah, I didn't take it serious or personal, I knew what he meant.

Zack
02-15-2010, 07:29 PM
Thanks for fighting my wars gents!

-Matt-
02-15-2010, 08:12 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Needs-moar-drama.jpg

Glenn
02-15-2010, 10:07 PM
Interesting reading - but a word of caution for many - I do not believe the conversion is nearly as easy as some have indicated. Few of us are Zack or Dave. Obviously these folks are not only skilled, but have the tools and equipment to help them. Also, besides Dave's 435 HP what are the other Eatons running. Not many people seem to post their dyno results. Just my $0.02. OK =========

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/gatlin.gif

Glenn Ford

Blackened300a
02-16-2010, 05:49 AM
THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!! :run: :hide:

This wasnt even funny the very first time it was said and now its just plain irritating. Yes we get it, you guys are so clever, the comic genius of this line is plain comedy gold each time its uttered in print and in person. :rolleyes:

Zack
02-16-2010, 06:04 AM
Interesting reading - but a word of caution for many - I do not believe the conversion is nearly as easy as some have indicated. Few of us are Zack or Dave. Obviously these folks are not only skilled, but have the tools and equipment to help them. Also, besides Dave's 435 HP what are the other Eatons running. Not many people seem to post their dyno results. Just my $0.02. OK =========

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/gatlin.gif

Glenn Ford

The eaton conversion goes on with simple hand tools just like the Trilogy.
Matter of fact, you can use a lot of the Trilogy Manual when doing the Cobra Eaton conversion.

This may cause a stir, but a ported Cobra Eaton will make more power than the Magnuson Ported Eaton. I think it has a lot to do with the volume of the intake and the lack of 90 degree bends on the Cobra intake.

Flame away!

FordNut
02-16-2010, 06:28 AM
The eaton conversion goes on with simple hand tools just like the Trilogy.
Matter of fact, you can use a lot of the Trilogy Manual when doing the Cobra Eaton conversion.

This may cause a stir, but a ported Cobra Eaton will make more power than the Magnuson Ported Eaton. I think it has a lot to do with the volume of the intake and the lack of 90 degree bends on the Cobra intake.

Flame away!

I believe that. Probably restriction from the over-the-blower adapter since it is so small.

ImpalaSlayer
02-16-2010, 08:04 AM
Interesting reading - but a word of caution for many - I do not believe the conversion is nearly as easy as some have indicated. Few of us are Zack or Dave. Obviously these folks are not only skilled, but have the tools and equipment to help them. Also, besides Dave's 435 HP what are the other Eatons running. Not many people seem to post their dyno results. Just my $0.02. OK =========

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/gatlin.gif

Glenn Ford

besides Zack and i, the only other eaton swap i know of is tj006, i think he has a very conservative tune and is making just over 400hp. of coarse you have Brian and Zacks other car along with the other Zak which are "whipple" swaps but the install is the same.

-Matt-
02-16-2010, 11:42 AM
This wasnt even funny the very first time it was said and now its just plain irritating. Yes we get it, you guys are so clever, the comic genius of this line is plain comedy gold each time its uttered in print and in person. :rolleyes:


Yes!! more drama!!

FordNut
02-16-2010, 12:25 PM
besides Zack and i, the only other eaton swap i know of is tj006, i think he has a very conservative tune and is making just over 400hp. of coarse you have Brian and Zacks other car along with the other Zak which are "whipple" swaps but the install is the same.

MM BKK has a Whipple, too.

Zack
02-16-2010, 12:44 PM
MM BKK has a Whipple, too.

Yep, and he is the other 'Zak' as Dave mentioned :D

Zack
02-16-2010, 12:45 PM
Lets not forget the mighty Effster who was the first to make a Twin Screw work on a Marauder....back in 2003!!
To bad the pics are no longer available!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6163

musclemerc
02-16-2010, 01:40 PM
Also don't forget LINCOLNPIMP...

ImpalaSlayer
02-16-2010, 02:06 PM
Also don't forget LINCOLNPIMP...

ahh yes. he never really showed good pics or anything though

Zack
02-16-2010, 02:09 PM
ahh yes. he never really showed good pics or anything though

I have the pics....just forgot where they are!

ImpalaSlayer
02-16-2010, 02:09 PM
I have the pics....just forgot where they are!

maybe i just dont remember them then.

musclemerc
02-16-2010, 02:29 PM
Now that I think about it there was recently an Eaton swapped MM on ebay from TX I wonder if it was his?

ImpalaSlayer
02-16-2010, 02:33 PM
Now that I think about it there was recently an Eaton swapped MM on ebay from TX I wonder if it was his?

that thing was a mess. technically yes it was swaped but executed poorly

tjl006
02-16-2010, 06:54 PM
Planing on visting effster heard about him through a mutual friend, works the machine shop at S&K speed on 109 on long island. Did all his own tuneing on the car if i remember correctly.

Blackened300a
02-16-2010, 07:07 PM
Planing on visting effster heard about him through a mutual friend, works the machine shop at S&K speed on 109 on long island. Did all his own tuneing on the car if i remember correctly.

I keep hearing about this guy. He has a blue one correct?

Zack
02-16-2010, 07:11 PM
^^^YEP! Best color

FordNut
02-16-2010, 07:12 PM
I believe he was the first Marauder to have a twin screw.

tjl006
02-16-2010, 07:20 PM
Paul you should come with me to S&k. To guys driving large black cars looking for Jeff "to have a talk". You carry the bat i'll bring the shovel:D

ImpalaSlayer
02-16-2010, 07:24 PM
Paul you should come with me to S&k. To guys driving large black cars looking for Jeff "to have a talk". You carry the bat i'll bring the shovel:D


HA! i want pics!

Blackened300a
02-16-2010, 07:34 PM
Paul you should come with me to S&k. To guys driving large black cars looking for Jeff "to have a talk". You carry the bat i'll bring the shovel:D

Im down but it will have to be after all this snow clears before the Marauder comes out of the garage. ;)

tjl006
02-16-2010, 07:39 PM
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4574/ep37christopherpauliewa5.jpg