Ryan's Eaton swap thread

[Commodore Crap]

I guess i officially started the project yesterday. I spent the day at my cousin's garage ripping parts out of his 04 Cobra. Since he's getting a F1 A ProCharger for his stang, he sold all the stuff he doesn't need to me. Which kinda works out for the both of us. And so, the pics:

JLT cold air intake, 14" K&N filter, SCT Big Air MAF:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300027.jpg


Cobra upper intake, Throttle body, Eaton M112 Supercharger:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300028.jpg


Cobra lower intake manifold, 39# injectors, heat exchanger, and fuel rail:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300029.jpg


Aftermarket intercooler:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300030.jpg

Intercooler pump, hoses, 1 Gal. intercooler juice reservoir:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300031.jpg

Tension pulley, Lower IAT, IAC, EGR Valve, Vacuum rail, Throttle cable, Throttle bracket, IC in/out dealy:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300032.jpg

We have to back to get the pigtails for the IC pump and the lower intake manifold IAT.
Yeah, I'm stoked. Now all i need is a few small things and then it's time to rock!

-ryan s.

[Haggis]

Cool Ryan, congrats on the S/C. How is it going in Buffalo?

[musclemerc]

Another Eaton swap!! Watch out!! Their WATCHING!!!!

[Commodore Crap]

Thanks! A little chilly, but nothing I'm really not used to. After i get this s/c in, i definitely want to try and make some CAM meets this summer! Those were fun!

-ryan s.

[ntd]

Cool, can't wait to see end product

[Zack]

Id like to recommend moving the MAF away from the Throttle body.

Take some of the PCV and put it in between the rubber boot and MAF. The MAF should end up in the same location as the rest of us Eaton Swap guys.

You wont need all that emmissions stuff, EGR or the Fuel Rails.

[Zack]

Oh, that IC tank wont work either (and look good)
I modified one once to use in conjunction with a Mustang Fan shroud and it still looked like hell.

[Commodore Crap]

I'll see what i can do. I'm doing the swap at my cousin's garage, and he's a welder by trade. So any of the modifications(like the fun coolant crossover mod) will be done there. And the battery is going to the trunk.
I will move the MAF away from the TB.
He just gave me everything. I planned on not using the EGR stuff.

Thanks.

-ryan s.

[bawazir]

Nice! :congrats: on the S/C

[swordfish]

:congrats: Keep us posted on how it's going.
O! by the way are you done yet?:lol:

[SC Cheesehead]

Another Eaton swap!! Watch out!! Their WATCHING!!!!

Yeah, be careful, the "Illegal Bracket Police" may show up and arrest you...:rolleyes:

[Zack]

Do yourself a favor and pressure test the Coolant tube before it goes out for powdercoating. Spend the $$$ and have a radiator shop do the testing.

[tjl006]

Do yourself a favor and pressure test the Coolant tube before it goes out for powdercoating. Spend the $$$ and have a radiator shop do the testing.

Truer words havent been spoken. You may think the tube is water tight. Give it a week and youll have litle drops of green starting to appear on the tube.

[ImpalaSlayer]

Do yourself a favor and pressure test the Coolant tube before it goes out for powdercoating. Spend the $$$ and have a radiator shop do the testing.


or do it yourself, thats what i did.

ps , you wont use the cobra throttle cable either.

hit me up if you got questions!

[Commodore Crap]

I will pressure check it. And I really don't have to send it out to get powdercoated. Because i'm opening a powdercoating business within the next month or two. I'm going to look at the building tomorrow.
But I will contact you if i have any questions!!

-ryan s.

[Zack]

or do it yourself, thats what i did.

ps , you wont use the cobra throttle cable either.

hit me up if you got questions!


If you have a stock TB, the MM cable will work.

If you have an aftermarket TB, you will need the Cobra Cable.

[bawazir]

Aftermarket intercooler:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300030.jpg

Nice intercooler! Dose any one have a photo of there MM with this kind of intercooler or smiler?

[RR|Suki]

That's a heat exchanger

[FordNut]

If you have a stock TB, the MM cable will work.

If you have an aftermarket TB, you will need the Cobra Cable.

I don't understand? I have a LFP single blade TB and stock MM cable.

[Zack]

I don't understand? I have a LFP single blade TB and stock MM cable.

Trust me neither do I.

My black car is fine with an aftermarket TB.
The pedal in my Blue MM SANK to the floor when I just put a Dragon TB on it.

WIERD!

[Zack]

If you take a good look at some aftermarket TB's, the actual dimensions are different.
The 'longer' the TB, the more likely it is you will need a cable mod.

[CBT]

That's a heat exchanger

Doh!!!!!!!!

[FordNut]

That's a heat exchanger

A little bitty one. Mine is about twice that size and a lot thicker too.

[Joe Walsh]

A little bitty one.
Mine is about twice that size and a lot thicker too.

OK..OK....quit braggin'!

(waiting for the "that's what she said" guys to jump in.....)

[Pops]

OK..OK....quit braggin'!

(waiting for the "that's what she said" guys to jump in.....)

You beat me to it Joe! Dang customers get in the way again!;)

[Zack]

A little bitty one. Mine is about twice that size and a lot thicker too.

I love a good heat exchanger debate!

Id bet the one I have in my car is just as good as the one you have....and its just a little over 1" thick.

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/images/product/radiator_24x12x1_picture.jpg

It measures 12x24x1
I never saw IAT's over 120 on the dyno.

[DTUB]

If you have a stock TB, the MM cable will work.

If you have an aftermarket TB, you will need the Cobra Cable.
The Cobra cable won't fit unless modified. The two bolts on the firewall are spread farther apart than the holes on the cable.

[Zack]

The Cobra cable won't fit unless modified. The two bolts on the firewall are spread farther apart than the holes on the cable.

Let me get me birth certificate, hold on.....

































































Yep, my middle name is 'modifier' :D

[FordNut]

Mine is a dual pass Lightning HE from Lightning Force Performance, measures 9"h x 27"w x 3"thick.

[ctrlraven]

Congrats Ryan!

[-Matt-]

I love a good heat exchanger debate!

Id bet the one I have in my car is just as good as the one you have....and its just a little over 1" thick.

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/images/product/radiator_24x12x1_picture.jpg

It measures 12x24x1
I never saw IAT's over 120 on the dyno.



Holy shat, those are way bigger then mine. :( Mine looks like a tranny cooler in comparison.... but its the one vortech told me to get. :confused:

[ImpalaSlayer]

If you have a stock TB, the MM cable will work.

If you have an aftermarket TB, you will need the Cobra Cable.

not true, i had an accufab on my whip and the pedel sank with both it and the stock tb. the cobra cable is way to short.

[massacre]

I hope to have my MM throttle cable soon.

BTW: I think 'modifier' is a pretty common middle name. Least around these parts.

[Ladyhawke]

Thanks! A little chilly, but nothing I'm really not used to. After i get this s/c in, i definitely want to try and make some CAM meets this summer! Those were fun!

-ryan s.


Congrats on the S/C Ryan! Look forward to seeing you again.

[CBT]

Holy shat, those are way bigger then mine. :(

That's what she said.

[Phrog_gunner]

I'm no mechanical engineer, but an intercooler is a heat exchanger.

[FordNut]

I'm no mechanical engineer, but an intercooler is a heat exchanger.
True. They are one and the same with an air-air setup.
The roots and twin screw blowers have 2 heat exchangers.
Accepted convention is pretty much the one under the blower is referred to as the intercooler, the one in the grille is the heat exchanger.
I'm not sure about proper terminology for air-water centrifugals.

[RR|Suki]

I'm no mechanical engineer, but an intercooler is a heat exchanger.

The intercooler is also technically an after cooler too. Doesn't really matter, when talking about the setup there the part under the blower is called the intercooler and the part that cools the water is called the heat exchanger.

[ImpalaSlayer]

The intercooler is also technically an after cooler too. Doesn't really matter, when talking about the setup there the part under the blower is called the intercooler and the part that cools the water is called the heat exchanger.

yup, just simplifies things when listing or searching for used or new items

[Phrog_gunner]

The intercooler is also technically an after cooler too. Doesn't really matter, when talking about the setup there the part under the blower is called the intercooler and the part that cools the water is called the heat exchanger.

Good info, thanks for the edjumacation. :beer: Do the centri setups run both of those as well?

[-Matt-]

Good info, thanks for the edjumacation. :beer: Do the centri setups run both of those as well?


The air-to-air uses one, the water to air uses both

[ImpalaSlayer]

Good info, thanks for the edjumacation. :beer: Do the centri setups run both of those as well?
negitive, they only haz one

[-Matt-]

negitive, they only haz one

WRONG!!!!!!!!!! :flamer:

[ImpalaSlayer]

WRONG!!!!!!!!!! :flamer:
ok most of the time they haz one

[FordNut]

Good info, thanks for the edjumacation. :beer: Do the centri setups run both of those as well?


True. They are one and the same with an air-air setup.
The roots and twin screw blowers have 2 heat exchangers.
Accepted convention is pretty much the one under the blower is referred to as the intercooler, the one in the grille is the heat exchanger.
I'm not sure about proper terminology for air-water centrifugals.

These do, but it's in a box instead of on top of the motor.

[-Matt-]

ok most of the time they haz one


Wha? most of the time? :toss:

[-Matt-]

These do, but it's in a box instead of on top of the motor.


yeah the box would be considered the intercooler. The water to air has a heat exchanger as well

[ImpalaSlayer]

Wha? most of the time? :toss:

air-air only has one nub

[-Matt-]

air-air only has one nub


I know that, but thats not most of the time!! :rolleyes:

[ImpalaSlayer]

I know that, but thats not most of the time!! :rolleyes:

personally ive seen more air-air then air to water so that makes it most of the time lol

[-Matt-]

personally ive seen more air-air then air to water so that makes it most of the time lol


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/xxshowstoppaxx/1257044517269.jpg

[FordNut]

personally ive seen more air-air then air to water so that makes it most of the time lol

Martyo, Glassman99, Marauderman, probably 10-15 more have air-water. As well as all the Kenny Brown's

[-Matt-]

-Matt- ,Martyo, Glassman99, Marauderman, probably 10-15 more have air-water. As well as all the Kenny Brown's

Fixed it for ya ;)

[ImpalaSlayer]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/xxshowstoppaxx/1257044517269.jpg

hah that pic is awesome

[ImpalaSlayer]

Martyo, Glassman99, Marauderman, probably 10-15 more have air-water. As well as all the Kenny Brown's

just saying what ive seen at the tracks and such not just here.

i honestly didnt know the ones witht he water cooler had an air cooler also

[RR|Suki]

just saying what ive seen at the tracks and such not just here.

i honestly didnt know the ones witht he water cooler had an air cooler also

they have to, other wise you'd just have hot water. Race cars tend to have a big ol' container in the trunk/cabin. It gets cold stuff every run though I figure

[Phrog_gunner]

I've seen zero of each so that means they are equal.

[ImpalaSlayer]

they have to, other wise you'd just have hot water. Race cars tend to have a big ol' container in the trunk/cabin. It gets cold stuff every run though I figure

nvm im an idiot. i understand now

i was thinking they had an intercooler like an a2a would have

[-Matt-]

nvm im an idiot. i understand now

Ya nub


Next time use the search button.... :lol:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Ya nub


Next time use the search button.... :lol:

that costs too much

[Commodore Crap]

ok, so i can use my stock throttle cable if i have the stock Cobra TB? I have the stock Cobra TB.

[Zack]

ok, so i can use my stock throttle cable if i have the stock Cobra TB? I have the stock Cobra TB.

Yes but you may need to mod the throttle bracket like impalaslayer did.

[Commodore Crap]

Ok, no biggie. Just checkin. Looks like the install will be around the end of march, begining of April.

-ryan s.

[Commodore Crap]

Well, tonight i brought the intercooler, lower intake manifold and injectors into work to clean them in the parts cleaner, and man, what a difference!!

That's it for now.

[babbage]

Well, tonight i brought the intercooler, lower intake manifold and injectors into work to clean them in the parts cleaner, and man, what a difference!!

That's it for now.

Hey Ryan congrats! It sounds like you got a good price too. How many miles was on the kit? You gotta meet me out at ESTA in Aprilish. :burnout: Who are you going to take it to for a dynotune in Buffalo area? I need to get one myself - PM me or post it up.

[Commodore Crap]

So, i cleaned stuff.
Before:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300029.jpg


AFTER!!!!!!
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300035.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300036.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300037.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300038.jpg


and yes, I am looking forward to ESTA. I will be a blast! I'm going to Innovative Tuning in Buffalo for my tune.

The supercharger, intake plenum, and throttle body will be cleaned tonight

-ryan s.

[babbage]

So, i cleaned stuff.
Before:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300029.jpg


AFTER!!!!!!
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300035.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300036.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300037.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/shadz39/Marauder/S8300038.jpg


and yes, I am looking forward to ESTA. I will be a blast! I'm going to Innovative Tuning in Buffalo for my tune.

The supercharger, intake plenum, and throttle body will be cleaned tonight

-ryan s.

Looking good. Nice and clean -- with that puppy you <should> he able to take me in the 1/4 for sure. :D


Has Innovative tuning ever tuned your MM before?
I didn't see SCT listed on their site

[bawazir]

What did you use to clean the inner heat exchanger?

[Commodore Crap]

My parts cleaner at work. Aircraft-grade degreaser is good for something!
-ryan s.