Any Shooters on Here?

[PurdueRifleman]

I can't be the only one on here! Lets see some pictures of your other toys and maybe hear a little about how you enjoy your hobby.

Skip these next few paragraphs if you just want to look at the pictures.

I've been interested in firearms since I started 4-H Shooting sports at the age of 10. It took me a while to get the hang of rifle marksmanship, but when it clicked at about the age of 11, I really got it! My dad bought me my first .22, a Savage Mk II with a horrible trigger, when I was in 6th grade and I became pretty adept at hitting what ever I could see inside of 100yds.

Fast forward a few years and a few guns later, and I had my first centerfire rifle, a Remington 700 in .308. I used this and a Romanian PSL for coyote hunting beyond 200yds.

It wasn't until my freshman year of college at IUPUI that I became interested in target shooing, though. I can thank this partially to reading Charles Henderson's Marine Sniper about the life of one of the U.S.'s greatest snipers, Carlos Norman Hathcock II. I started shooting religiously and after a few months of this (this is back when 7.62x54R was $2.25/box), I could hit a 15" target at 500m with iron sights about 94% of the time.

Then I transferred to Purdue in 2006 and joined the rifle and pistol club. I would shoot 50' smallbore on Monday night's there for the remainder of my time as a student and improved my abilities even further.

Finally, one night at practice during the first semester of my senior year, I was a approached by the University rifle team's coach and captain, and was extended an invite to join the team! I graduated from Purdue as top shot on the team and managed to get high overall score during the team's last match against one of our biggest rivals, GVSU.

But it didn't stop there. After college, I took up competitive shooting in the form of NRA High Power where I compete in the service rifle category using a somewhat accurized AR-15. I also took up some small time gunsmithing and I've got two rifles built and a third one in the works! On Thursdays, I teach a small class on rifle marksmanship at the farm.

So enough bragging! You all are here for the pics:

My first rifle build, an AR-15 in 6.8 SPC (not a 5.56 fan, here). The optic is an ACOG TA31H-68.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4710/ar1568spc1.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/i/ar1568spc1.jpg/)

(What she does at 100m)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8060/groupiy.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/groupiy.jpg/)

My M1 Carbine restoration project along side my 9mm Px4

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6510/dinnerpic1.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/dinnerpic1.jpg/)

My desert eagle Mk XIX in .50AE. People laugh at it until they see what it can do and the accuracy it's capable of. There's a whitetail deer out there could vouch for that, but he isn't talking.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4665/forrestdeserteagle50.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/forrestdeserteagle50.jpg/)

And the rest of them:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~gunclub/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2172 (http://web.ics.purdue.edu/%7Egunclub/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2172)

[SC Cheesehead]

Sweet!

Used to shoot quite a bit back in WI, haven't done much since moving South.

Used to participate in 400 yd shoots with my buddies, had a Ruger M77 chambered in 7MM Rem. mag., also did some range shooting with my Ruger Mk II bull barrel.

Sadly, have since sold both the rifle and the handgun.

[MMBLUE]

Love the AR. The pasta and salad looks good too.

[babbage]

Nice grouping. What with the 100m distance? Our ranges are all in yards where I am.

[tbone]

Love my Benelli 12 guage, Walther P22, Marlin 22 rifle, SKS 7.62 rifle and especially my Smith and Wesson 357 Magnum! It's a sweetie!

[sailsmen]

454 75' free standing
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/454_casull.jpg (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17481)

45 75' free standing
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/45beye.JPG (http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/17482)

[dakslim]

Not too much lately...but back in the day.

[CBT]

Not too much lately...but back in the day.
Is that the ol' Ma Duece?

[Blackmobile]

And the rest of them:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~gunclub/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2172

What, No Winchester Model 1892, with modified loop and trigger? Oh, I'm showing my age again. RIP Chuck.

Ed

[dakslim]

Is that the ol' Ma Duece?

Uniform Hotel One Echo "Huey" Iroquois type, one each. +M-60 machine gun.:D

[Haggis]

Is that the ol' Ma Duece?

No, that is a M60 machingun, fires 7.62mm x 51 or .308 Winchester for you old timers.

[dakslim]

No, that is a M60 machingun, fires 7.62mm x 51 or .308 Winchester for you old timers.

Correctomundo!:bows:

[CBT]

Correctomundo!:bows:
How many rounds you put thru that thing?

[Haggis]

Correctomundo!:bows:

I carried, fired and performed routine maintenance on them for four years in the Army.

[Leadfoot281]

Kimber 1911. Chambered in 45acp. "Concealed" Carry pistol. I should get something a bit smaller though. Nice peice but it took me 600+ rounds to break it in.

1940's vintage Springfeild .22 rifle. My Dads old gun. No one on Earth currently has enough cash to buy this one from me.

Western Feild 12 Gauge pump shotgun. 2 3/4-3. Just as spendy as the .22 and for the same reasons. I keep 00 Buck shot on hand for it.

Remington Model 700. Chamberd in 22-250 w/Bull barrell and Bushnell 4x14x40 scope. This is my coyote rifle. Most accurate rifle I've ever owned or fired.

AK47/74 clones. Lots and lots of these. How many? I'm not saying but it is far more than I can possibly fit in a Jeep Cherokee Sport. I find these things cheap and trade 'em on better stuff.

I used to own a M1891 Mosin-Nagant rifle in 7.62x54r. Nicknamed "Thunder stick", this was a cool (and accurate) rifle but sold it to friend for more than I paid for it.

[dakslim]

How many rounds you put thru that thing?

Suffice it to say a lot. Couldn't count that fast. We loaded our own so usually put as many tracers in the belt that we could.

[Hacklemerc]

Lets just say I have enough to fighht off the Zombies when they come next year.

[CBT]

Lets just say I have enough to fighht off the Zombies when they come next year.

I don't know why but that made me lol

[-Matt-]

mine

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[-Matt-]

Two more:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/xxshowstoppaxx/0701091934.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/xxshowstoppaxx/0701091710.jpg

[mgmsleeper]

nice guns on here, i have a bundle of my own.

[PurdueRifleman]

Nice grouping. What with the 100m distance? Our ranges are all in yards where I am.

I use meters for my 6.8 AR and my PSL only because the BDC on the optic/sights is calibrated in metric. For everything else I use standard measurements.

And to the comment on lacking a Winchester '92, my lack of one of these (or any lever action w/o optics) also saddens me! This is something I need to fix.

Great stuff guys, keep 'em coming!

[swordfish]

No picture but, I have HK usp 40 for duty, hk usp 40 compact off duty. keltec p11 9mm, Millennim 40, FN tactical shotgun, and a few other long guns.

[SC Cheesehead]

Suffice it to say a lot. Couldn't count that fast. We loaded our own so usually put as many tracers in the belt that we could.

IMO, a high rate of fire and concentration on target is an acceptable substitute for pin-point accuracy... ;)

http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesIntlrelationships/NorthWall/AC47.jpg

[tbone]

IMO, a high rate of fire and concentration on target is an acceptable substitute for pin-point accuracy... ;)

http://www.talkingproud.us/ImagesIntlrelationships/NorthWall/AC47.jpg

And they are as reliable as an anvil.

[jabird56]

Remington AWR in .338 WINMAG

[ImpalaSlayer]

that dee easy is PIMP! do want!

[Blackmobile]

I sort of favor the big brother of the James Bond (Walther PPK), the Walther PP.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/Blackmobile358/Walther%20PP/DSCN0127.jpg

[bob6364]

My 2 current favorites to carry...as for the rest, well....let's just say I have something for all occasions :D
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/Guns/sunroom023.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t153/bob6364/Guns/WaltherPPS001.jpg

[Juice]

Figured I'd bump this instead of starting a new one.

Here's my baby:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/DE/42d57d55.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/DE/8b526ce8.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/DE/6ed55a09.jpg

My 110lb roommate shooting it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/DE/IMG_0056.jpg

Still from a video of me shooting it at night:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/flash.jpg

[CBT]

Nice! Looks like some Hollywood special effects.





Still from a video of me shooting it at night:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JonesSoda/flash.jpg

[Juice]

Yeah, it looks pretty badass in person too. I've only been able to get that fireball with the cheap WalMart .44 Magnum ammo (I have .44 Magnum and .50AE barrels for her) though, the good stuff doesn't flash like that.

[PurdueRifleman]

If you handload, try using a 300gr bullet and 33.0gr of W296 or H110 over a large magnum pistol primer for 50AE. Fierce recoil, but the resulting fireball is very satisfying.

I shot a small deer with this load back in 2008 and rendered one shoulder completely inedible :mad2:

[PurdueRifleman]

This particular recipe will cost you about $0.38/shot. So much cheaper than actually buying .50AE from the factory. Did I mention they cycle better and are much more accurate?

[Shaijack]

Is it hard to shoot a gun with an ink pen in the trigger?

[sailsmen]

454 Casull

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/454_casull1.jpg

[rayjay]

I bought this Stoeger Double Defense in 12 gage for my women folk while my back heals:

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=415192783226&id=d4b67654201e07c67dc6fcfb23f 54b38&index=ch1

each barrel has 8 gas ports so they should be able to handle recoil of low brass 2 3/4" 00 Buck. I put a 6 shot side saddle on it. I have to find a light attachment for the lower piccattiny rail. Has a upper rail also, but I see no need for optics on this gun. It will double duty for clay shooting and plincking. We call it the Wee Black Beasty. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. The noise alone is deafening in a enclosed space. In case there are antis on here, my womens are fully trained in firearms safety and when they can use deadly physical force under NYS law.

[J D]

Great post everyone, sadly in the Empire State Guns held just our of most people's reach.

I've have some range time with a ruger mini, but lever actions are in the blood! Sadly, I probably won't have pistols living inside the city limits here.

[kernie]

I bought this Stoeger Double Defense in 12 gage for my women folk while my back heals:

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=415192783226&id=d4b67654201e07c67dc6fcfb23f 54b38&index=ch1

each barrel has 8 gas ports so they should be able to handle recoil of low brass 2 3/4" 00 Buck. I put a 6 shot side saddle on it. I have to find a light attachment for the lower piccattiny rail. Has a upper rail also, but I see no need for optics on this gun. It will double duty for clay shooting and plincking. We call it the Wee Black Beasty. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. The noise alone is deafening in a enclosed space. In case there are antis on here, my womens are fully trained in firearms safety and when they can use deadly physical force under NYS law.

I keep feeling like i'm watching an old western set in indian territory about 1792...LOL.

:beer:

[Dragcity]

I have a bunch of stuff. Used to shoot a lot but have little opportunity to these days. I have a CCW in Erie County here in NY. Which is rare.

I took my first deer with a Ruger Super Red Hawk 44 Mag. Deer was running and 50 yards out. Took out both lungs and the heart. Bullet stopped on the inside of the opposing sholder, pushing the deer over on its side. One kick and no more movement. It wasca clean kill, but clearly a lucky shot.

I sat in the woods for four years prior. Watching the deer pass by. Finally decided to take a shot.

Right now one gun I want to shoot more is an Olympic Arms AR-15 pre-ban.

My carry is a Colt 1991 Gov't in stainless MARK IV. It's a little big and uncomfortable to carry, but a sure shot for me. Most reliable gun I have ever shot. Its a natural point and shoot for me.

[rayjay]

Great post everyone, sadly in the Empire State Guns held just our of most people's reach.

I've have some range time with a ruger mini, but lever actions are in the blood! Sadly, I probably won't have pistols living inside the city limits here.

You need a new mayor who is interested in having citizens, not subjects. You are correct about handguns in the city. Its crazy, even restricts LEOs. Remember all good dictators take the guns away 1st, then the killings start...

[rayjay]

I keep feeling like i'm watching an old western set in indian territory about 1792...LOL.

:beer:

No, this area was settled before that and battles of the US Revolution were fought not far from my home. Canada isn't exactly crime free, but you can't be proactive.

[sailsmen]

When resources are stretched the line between civilization and anarchy is very thin.
Pre Katrina 24% of the Population in New Orleans was on Food Stamps, meaning the federal Gov't had determined they were incapable of feeding themselves, the most basic survival requirement. Unemployment in New Orleans was ~5.5%, with many no skill good paying jobs available, dishwashers $20-$25 per hour.

When Katrina hit power, communication and transportation were non-existant or very limited. A small number of armed criminals did what ever they wanted against those who were unarmed. They were completley unopposed, "free to do as they pleased" and they did.

New Orleans has always been a very Liberal city, with Liberals holding virtual every political office for 35 years. After Katrina the New Orleans Police went door to door confiscating guns from law abiding citizens leaving them defenseless, eventually a court order brought by the NRA was issued to stop it.

After Katrina many a person who was antigun before Katrina told me they purchased a gun and became a member of the NRA. For the deniers, listen to Brian Williams interview 5 years latter, particularly the 7 minute mark, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asYWzCHNQKs

Average everyday people went to extreme lengths to help each other, including risking their lives. That is not the point. The point is a few armed criminals can completely brutalize and control a large unarmed population.

The tragedy is that a 12 mile walk from the Superdome along a safe easy to walk route was the Gov't Aide Depot. Just one leader could have lead all those who could walk to safety and resources. Then bring the aide back with him. No leader would step up, everyone waited for the Gov't to come and save them.

After Katrina several of the well known National gangs tried to move in, viewing it as an opportunity. After 2 years they gave up because everysingle one of them was murdered by the local gangs. I don't know if that is good or bad. Pre Katrina the crime was concentrated around Public Housing. Public Housing shut down and now the crime is spread though out the city. Bizzarre but now we want the Public Housing reopened! And they are starting to at $275,000 to $330,000 PER UNIT. We drove by one today they looked really nice?

[rayjay]

After Katrina several of the well known National gangs tried to move in, viewing it as an opportunity. After 2 years they gave up because everysingle one of them was murdered by the local gangs. I don't know if that is good or bad. Pre Katrina the crime was concentrated around Public Housing. Public Housing shut down and now the crime is spread though out the city. Bizzarre but now we want the Public Housing reopened! And they are starting to at $275,000 to $330,000 PER UNIT. We drove by one today they looked really nice?

I do not find this bizzare in the least. I have dealt with it, on a much smaller scale, but it worked exactly the same... 1,000+ miles apart in a rural area. Sad huh?

[zr271cuda]

Here is my newest purchase. Its a gun show find a 329PD. I've always wanted a .44 mag. I would have preferred a stainless model but I could't pass up the deal. I already own the smaller brother of this one the 340PD .357 mag and its an awesome gun. I'm actually going out today to shoot it and hope all goes well.:uzi:

[Fosters]

After my X got broken into and my GPS got stolen, I keep one of those target papers on the passenger seat, with the grouping on the head (it's the silhouette kind). I have a feeling it won't get broken into anymore... ;) At least they didn't come back for the expensive stereo so far.

[rayjay]

Here is my newest purchase. Its a gun show find a 329PD. I've always wanted a .44 mag. I would have preferred a stainless model but I could't pass up the deal. I already own the smaller brother of this one the 340PD .357 mag and its an awesome gun. I'm actually going out today to shoot it and hope all goes well.:uzi:


Nice find, thats a beauty! I own a 432PD, my summer fun in the sun protection. -and- she holds 6 rnds on a J frame in 32 H&R Mag. Light as a feather. Replaced my Kahr P9C for that purpose.

[sailsmen]

For those who doubt the need to own what it takes to defend yourself and your familly; "Egypt vigilantes defend homes as police disappear"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-vigilante-trib-idUSTRE70S3AZ20110129?pageNumb er=2

[Taemian]

For those who doubt the need to own what it takes to defend yourself and your familly; "Egypt vigilantes defend homes as police disappear"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/29/us-egypt-vigilante-trib-idUSTRE70S3AZ20110129?pageNumb er=2

"Others stayed penned inside their homes for fear of what they said were marauding gangs in some areas."

Nice touch.:D

[ParkRanger]

When resources are stretched the line between civilization and anarchy is very thin.
Pre Katrina 24% of the Population in New Orleans was on Food Stamps, meaning the federal Gov't had determined they were incapable of feeding themselves, the most basic survival requirement. Unemployment in New Orleans was ~5.5%, with many no skill good paying jobs available, dishwashers $20-$25 per hour.

When Katrina hit power, communication and transportation were non-existant or very limited. A small number of armed criminals did what ever they wanted against those who were unarmed. They were completley unopposed, "free to do as they pleased" and they did.

New Orleans has always been a very Liberal city, with Liberals holding virtual every political office for 35 years. After Katrina the New Orleans Police went door to door confiscating guns from law abiding citizens leaving them defenseless, eventually a court order brought by the NRA was issued to stop it.

After Katrina many a person who was antigun before Katrina told me they purchased a gun and became a member of the NRA. For the deniers, listen to Brian Williams interview 5 years latter, particularly the 7 minute mark, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asYWzCHNQKs

Average everyday people went to extreme lengths to help each other, including risking their lives. That is not the point. The point is a few armed criminals can completely brutalize and control a large unarmed population.

The tragedy is that a 12 mile walk from the Superdome along a safe easy to walk route was the Gov't Aide Depot. Just one leader could have lead all those who could walk to safety and resources. Then bring the aide back with him. No leader would step up, everyone waited for the Gov't to come and save them.

After Katrina several of the well known National gangs tried to move in, viewing it as an opportunity. After 2 years they gave up because everysingle one of them was murdered by the local gangs. I don't know if that is good or bad. Pre Katrina the crime was concentrated around Public Housing. Public Housing shut down and now the crime is spread though out the city. Bizzarre but now we want the Public Housing reopened! And they are starting to at $275,000 to $330,000 PER UNIT. We drove by one today they looked really nice?


Sorry to see that you are still off your meds.

[jabird56]

South Dakota, you gotta love em...

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20110131/UPDATES/110131031/Bill-would-require-all-S-D-citizens-buy-gun

[sailsmen]

Sorry to see that you are still off your meds.
Apparently so is Brian Williams.

Deny, deny, deny and it never happened may work in LaLa Land.

[Green96]

If any of you like Sig, here is something I am considering:
I like Sig and I like 45s...Sig P220 goes for $800+ new.

Sig P220 Classic 22 goes for around $450 new. That is a 22LR slide and barrel on a standard P220 frame.

P220 45ACP caliber X-change kit goes for around $425 and converts your P220 Classic 22 into a standard P220.

That gets you an awesome 45 and a 22LR (cheap practice) for around $875. Only $75 more than getting the P220 in 45 only.

I think Sig figures most people will not realize this and buy a regular P220 fist. I have not "pulled the trigger" on a P220 Classic 22 yet, but I may....

[rayjay]

Anyone see the Son Of A Gun show with the flame thrower? The whole show was too cool. God Bless Woody and thank him for his service.

[knine]

I hate guns.

[sailsmen]

Anarchy or just another day in the City?
Times Picayune
"New Orleans Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas on Thursday reassigned six veteran officers, including several high-ranking commanders, for possible violations of departmental rules revealed in the recently concluded Henry Glover federal court case.
Each of the officers was placed on desk duty while the NOPD conducts an internal investigation.
Four captains -- Gary Gremillion, David Kirsch, Joseph Waguespack and Jeff Winn -- plus Lt. Joseph Meisch and Detective Catherine Beckett were reassigned, according to the NOPD.
"After receiving a briefing this week by federal authorities regarding the death of Henry Glover, I am presently not comfortable in the ability of these individuals to professionally carry out their police duties as members, or leaders, of this police department pending our full investigative review," Serpas said in a news release issued Thursday afternoon.
An NOPD spokesman declined to comment further.
The news release noted that, according to the city's civil service guidelines, the department must conduct full investigations into the allegations before imposing permanent sanctions.
Second shakeup in wake of trial
The shakeup was the second one resulting from the Glover trial. Last week, immediately after the jury verdict, Serpas reassigned or suspended five other officers.
Five officers were accused of various roles in the Algiers man's death, the burning of his body, the beating of his companions and a subsequent cover-up. The shooting occurred in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina on Sept. 2, 2005, and the cover-up persisted until the FBI opened a probe in early 2009. Three officers were convicted and two were acquitted.The NOPD's actions last week have already resulted in two resignations. One of the reassigned officers -- Sgt. Jeffrey Sandoz, a government witness who testified that he watched other officers beat Glover's companions, and also admitted lying to a grand jury -- resigned early Thursday, according to the NOPD.
Meanwhile, officer Greg McRae, who was found guilty of incinerating Glover's body and was immediately placed on unpaid suspension, retired from the NOPD earlier this week. He is set to be sentenced next spring.
In addition to McRae, the jury returned guilty verdicts against former officer David Warren for shooting Glover and Lt. Travis McCabe for writing a false report about his death. Warren had already left the department, but McCabe remains an officer. He is on unpaid suspension.
Entangled in Glover case
All of the officers reassigned Thursday were involved in some aspect of the Glover case.
Capt. David Kirsch's name came up repeatedly during the trial, although exactly what he knew about what happened was never made clear. Kirsch, the longtime commander of the 4th District, which patrols all of Algiers, did not testify. A key prosecution witness, former Sgt. Purnella Simmons, testified that Kirsch, along with acquitted former Lt. Robert Italiano, met her at the Glover shooting scene weeks after the incident. Simmons said she told both Italiano and Kirsch that Warren's partner did not approve of the shooting and showed them where she found a bloody towel on the street. Italiano denied the meeting occurred.
Capt. Gary Gremillion was one of Kirsch's top deputies during Katrina and signed part of the report about the shooting, which said it was justified. He testified he didn't remember the report until it came up in an investigation by the NOPD's homicide division in 2009. Gremillion testified that he faxed a defendant a copy of the report in 2009. Gremillion oversees the NOPD's homicide and sex crimes units.
Capt. Joseph Waguespack testified that in late 2005, he was asked to look into the complaint of a woman -- presumably Edna Glover, Henry's mother -- who said her son was missing. He testified he called the coroner's office, but he didn't investigate further, saying he wasn't told the missing man might have been killed. But other witnesses provided different accounts. For example, Warren testified the supervisor, then part of the NOPD's Public Integrity Bureau, showed him a photograph of a man and asked him whether that was the person he shot at.
And Lt. Bruce Adams, who served as head of PIB for a couple years, said that after the circumstances of Glover's death came to light in early 2009, he asked Waguespack about it. Although there was never any PIB paperwork associated with the case until 2009, Adams testified that Waguespack told him he had gone to the 4th District to investigate a police shooting.
Waguespack said he didn't know the details about Glover's death until they appeared in the newspaper in early 2009, and he never told Adams he investigated a shooting.
'I think it is imprudent'
Donovan Livaccari, the attorney for Gremillion and Waguespack, said Thursday that both men had "cooperated fully and truthfully with investigators" in the Glover case. "While I appreciate Superintendent Serpas' commitment to transparency, I think it is imprudent to hold these high-ranking officers out to ridicule before the NOPD even conducts an investigation," Livaccari wrote in an e-mail.
Capt. Jeff Winn testified that he ordered acquitted Lt. Dwayne Scheuermann and McRae to move Glover's body from a makeshift police compound to a levee near the district station. Winn said he did not know McRae burned the body until a NOPD detective questioned him in early 2009. Winn said that upon discussing the case with Scheuermann at that point, he learned McRae had torched the car containing Glover. Armed with that knowledge, Winn acknowledged that he failed to alert any supervisors, or go back to the NOPD investigator.
His attorney, Eric Hessler, said Thursday that Winn did nothing criminal during the days after Katrina. "In that time, he worked within the rules and regulations of the NOPD," Hessler said.
Winn's former girlfriend, Detective Catherine Beckett, testified that former Sgt. Erin Reilly, a government witness in the Glover case, had confided in her that when testifying before a grand jury she made up allegations against Italiano because she disliked him. Beckett said she told a defense attorney of the supposed confession, but never brought it to federal authorities. Reilly disputed Beckett's assertion, and a federal prosecutor called Beckett an "unmitigated liar."
"I don't know what this lady did wrong except she brought the perjured testimony of a police officer to the attention of an officer of the court the same day she learned of it," said Lindsay Larson, Beckett's attorney. Larson said the officer of the court he referred to was the defense attorney.
Lt. Joseph Meisch, who received immunity for his testimony, told jurors that he saw Scheuermann and McRae run down the bank of the levee after McRae had set fire to the car. Meisch also testified that he later saw a charred human rib cage in the car, but never reported the incident, saying he expected Scheuermann to take care of it. Scheuermann, however, testified that he expected Meisch to follow up.
"It's incredible that an officer who got on the stand, told the truth and assisted the federal government ... would all the sudden be made part of this witch hunt," said Bob Pastor, Meisch's attorney. "He was never accused of being untruthful."

Brendan McCarthy can be reached at bmccarthy@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3301. Laura Maggi can be reached at lmaggi@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3316.

[sailsmen]

Six current or former New Orleans police officers were charged in a sweeping federal grand jury indictment Monday that accuses four of the men of shooting unarmed civilians on the Danziger Bridge several days after Hurricane Katrina and all six of them of plotting to cover up what they knew was an unjustified attack.
The charges, unsealed Tuesday, are the culmination of a two-year probe by the federal government, the third investigation into the hugely controversial events that took place on the bridge on Sept. 4, 2005. The first inquiry, led by police, found no wrongdoing by officers. A state grand jury convened to look into the matter charged seven officers with murder, but the case later fell apart.
Since the fall of 2008, federal investigators have been in charge of Danziger, and earlier this year, prosecutors from the U.S. Department of Justice broke the case wide open, showing their hand through a series of guilty pleas from officers who acknowledged the bridge shootings were unjustified and that police had conspired to cover them up. The indictment charges the rest of the officers involved in what prosecutors have termed a "bad shoot" and the alleged coverup that followed.
The indictment alleges three current New Orleans police officers -- Sgts. Kenneth Bowen and Robert Gisevius, plus officer Anthony Villavaso -- killed 17-year-old James Brissette without justification. Former officer Robert Faulcon, who quit the force not long after the storm, was also charged in the fatal shooting of Brissette, a teenager walking with a friend's family from eastern New Orleans to a grocery store in Gentilly.
Faulcon also faces a second murder charge: He is accused of fatally shooting Ronald Madison, 40, a mentally disabled man who was running from the gunfire on the eastern side of the bridge.The four men are also accused of firing their weapons and wounding four people walking with Brissette.Read more
• The indictment of the six officers
• The Times-Picayune Danziger Bridge archive
• Law and Disorder: Police shootings in the week after Hurricane Katrina
All four officers are also accused of participating in a long-running, detailed coverup of the shooting that prosecutors allege began just after officers stopped firing their weapons.
The indictment accuses two homicide detectives, Sgt. Arthur Kaufman and retired Sgt. Gerard Dugue, of helping to orchestrate a coverup that included manufactured witnesses, fabricated statements by police, the planting of a gun and lies by officers questioned by the FBI.
On Tuesday, FBI agents arrested Faulcon in Fresno, Texas, and had obtained warrants to arrest Bowen, Gisevius and Villavaso, according to court records.
However, after learning of Faulcon's arrest, attorneys for the three other men accused of murder escorted their clients in unison to FBI headquarters in New Orleans, surrendering them to federal custody.
Federal prosecutors will ask a federal magistrate judge Wednesday to keep the four officers in custody until trial, arguing they are a flight risk and a danger, U.S. Attorney Jim Letten said at a news conference attended by top officials from the Department of Justice, including U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

[sailsmen]

Defense attorneys have already pledged to fight the request, pointing out that three of the officers turned themselves in. Kaufman and Dugue, meanwhile, will be required to appear at arraignments, but they are unlikely to be detained.
Holder called the indictment an "important step" in improving the fractured "public trust" of the NOPD, a troubled agency still facing another seven federal criminal investigations.
At the request of Mayor Mitch Landrieu, Holder's agency is also conducting a civil investigation of the New Orleans Police Department, trying to determine if there are systemic problems that need to be addressed.
"Put simply, we will not tolerate wrongdoing by those who are sworn to protect the public. This will not stand," Holder said. "Today, almost a month after the mayor and I discussed our shared public safety goals ... we are working together to build a stronger police force and a safer New Orleans and to ensure that a tragedy like the incident on Danziger Bridge never happens again."
New Orleans Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas, who came from Nashville to take over the department's top job in May, issued a prepared statement on the new charges.
"This is another step in the judicial process in the continuing investigation by the federal authorities," Serpas said. "With these latest revelations in the investigation, it is now time to look forward. I have recently made several command changes within the NOPD and I am continuing to analyze every aspect of the department to make it more efficient and professional."
Michael DeMocker, The Times-PicayuneDuring a news conference in the Hale Boggs Federal Building on Tuesday announcing the indictment of six more New Orleans police officers in the Danziger Bridge shooting and coverup, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, and U.S. Attorney Jim Letten, left, talk to reporters.
The Danziger shootings were prompted by a radio call from an officer on the Interstate 10 high-rise, who reported that police on I-10 were taking fire. The officer mentioned that there were other officers "down under" the nearby Danziger Bridge, language that some police apparently misinterpreted to mean that officers had been shot.
A group of officers staying at the Crystal Palace banquet hall drove to the bridge in a Budget rental truck, encountering a group of people walking over the bridge from eastern New Orleans to Gentilly.
For the four officers charged with murder Tuesday, the indictment contains many of the same accusations brought against them by Orleans Parish prosecutors in December 2006. A state grand jury charged seven police officers -- eventually named the "Danziger 7" by supporters within the NOPD -- with murder and attempted murder.
But less than two years later, the charges were dismissed by a Criminal District Court judge who found that prosecutor error had damaged the case.
As in state court, officers charged in federal court with the fatal shootings of Brissette and Madison potentially face life in prison or the death penalty if convicted. The actual charge under federal law is not called "murder," but deprivation of rights under color of law, a capital offense.
The Justice Department has not yet determined whether prosecutors will seek the death penalty, Letten said. Ultimately, it is Holder who will make that decision.
Defense attorneys for the indicted officers chafed at prosecutors' contention that their clients knowingly fired at unarmed civilians. "It was a tragedy. It wasn't an intentional act of murder that the government is trying to portray it as," said Eric Hessler, the attorney representing Gisevius.
Hessler argued that the officers involved in the shooting were let down by the lack of leadership at NOPD during the storm, as well as the anemic federal and state responses to the city's flooding.
"The government has ignored the circumstances and conditions under which these officers were operating," Hessler said. "For them to say that these officers intentionally went out and shot and killed unarmed civilians, knowing that they were unarmed and posed no threat, is certainly the wrong conclusion."
Defense attorneys also assert that there was no orchestrated coverup. "We can prove some of these things in this indictment are not true. We believe we have a favorable case," said Frank DeSalvo, the attorney representing Bowen.
Holder had a stern response, saying the federal investigation was conducted "with integrity" and "hard work."
"In other words, that's not true. That's simply not true," Holder said.
While the four officers accused of the shootings are facing similar allegations to the ones they faced in state court, there is a key difference this time: the testimony of their fellow officers.
Three of the officers originally charged in state court have pleaded guilty this time around, each of them admitting that the civilians on the bridge weren't armed. Two other officers involved only in the investigation -- former Lt. Michael Lohman and former Detective Jeffrey Lehrmann -- also pleaded guilty to helping cover up the incident.
Many accusations in the new indictment first surfaced in one of the earlier guilty pleas. For example, Bowen is accused of kicking the body of the fatally wounded Madison, an accusation that was first contained in the guilty plea of former officer Michael Hunter.
In his guilty plea, Lehrmann described taking a ride to Kaufman's house, where the veteran detective retrieved a gun that would later be filed into evidence as the property of a civilian at the Danziger scene.
Lehrmann also stated that he was in the room when Kaufman fabricated two civilian witnesses described in his homicide report as having seen the shooting and providing information favorable to the involved officers.
But DeSalvo said some of the assertions made by the officers who have taken plea deals are "bizarre" and inaccurate. "The things they speak of as fact are not true. This is going to have to be for the jury," he said.
The indictment characterizes Kaufman, Bowen and Gisevius as taking lead roles in helping craft various "false" stories to explain the shootings. Officers stuck to these stories as recently as January 2009, when Kaufman and Dugue were interviewed by FBI agents, the indictment stated.
Both investigators are accused of knowingly lying in those interviews.
Both Bartholomews were seriously injured on the eastern side of the bridge. Along with Brissette, they had been walking from a motel where they were staying to a grocery store in Gentilly.
The Bartholomews have said that when the Budget rental truck sped onto the scene, they jumped behind a concrete barrier that separated a pedestrian walkway from the road. In the shooting, part of Susan Bartholomew's arm was blown off and her husband was shot in the head.
Their nephew, who was staying with them, was shot repeatedly in the torso. The Bartholomew's teenage daughter, Lesha, was shot four times. The couple's teenage son managed to run from the gunfire and was uninjured.
Madison, who was walking over the bridge with his older brother, Lance, ran away from the shots at the eastern end. Ronald Madison was shot on the Gentilly side of the bridge, not far from the place where he sought refuge: his brother's dental office.
Lance Madison was not injured, but was arrested and accused of shooting at officers.

[rayjay]

Sailsman, we in the police community all know that NOLA PD is one of the most corrupt in the country. We also know that our brothers & sisters there face a huge problem on a daily basis and are very under paid for putting their lives on the line. Even though despicable acts grab headlines they are not done by a majority but a minority of officers who at the time may think they are acting in the publics best interest, ala Katrina or ridding the area of gangs. -and- yes, some cops are fricking crooks. I wasn't there and do not pretend to know the facts. Facts can be twisted to meet an agenda. I will confess that I did litterly just wake up, and only perused the above. Please do not assume that all law enforcement members of any branch whether it be federal, state, or local can all be lumped together and labeled as being and acting the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bad apples do get through the VERY tight selection process. I know many LEOs who are VERY pro 2nd Amendment for a citizens right to bear arms. I at one time was not. My views were changed on 09-11-2001. I, in fact, see no need what so ever for a civilian to own a fully automatic rifle, let alone something on the order of a Ma Duce. Why? The only reason is to say I have one and get a woody firing it. Join the military. I don't have a problem with someone owning a demilitarized version. You have the cash, go for it. I do believe everyone who wants a pistol permit MUST attend training. I believe letting Joe Schmoe walk in off the street, fill out some papers, pass a NICS check and walk out the door with a concealable firearm is dangerous. Not just to the public, but to Joe also. A manual is no substitute for training from a qualified instructor. Some guns will blow up in your face if you use reloaded ammo and don't clean them everytime. You won't find that in any manual. My more than $.02...

[kernie]

Sailsman, we in the police community all know that NOLA PD is one of the most corrupt in the country. We also know that our brothers & sisters there face a huge problem on a daily basis and are very under paid for putting their lives on the line. Even though despicable acts grab headlines they are not done by a majority but a minority of officers who at the time may think they are acting in the publics best interest, ala Katrina or ridding the area of gangs. -and- yes, some cops are fricking crooks. I wasn't there and do not pretend to know the facts. Facts can be twisted to meet an agenda. I will confess that I did litterly just wake up, and only perused the above. Please do not assume that all law enforcement members of any branch whether it be federal, state, or local can all be lumped together and labeled as being and acting the same. Nothing could be further from the truth. Bad apples do get through the VERY tight selection process. I know many LEOs who are VERY pro 2nd Amendment for a citizens right to bear arms. I at one time was not. My views were changed on 09-11-2001. I, in fact, see no need what so ever for a civilian to own a fully automatic rifle, let alone something on the order of a Ma Duce. Why? The only reason is to say I have one and get a woody firing it. Join the military. I don't have a problem with someone owning a demilitarized version. You have the cash, go for it. I do believe everyone who wants a pistol permit MUST attend training. I believe letting Joe Schmoe walk in off the street, fill out some papers, pass a NICS check and walk out the door with a concealable firearm is dangerous. Not just to the public, but to Joe also. A manual is no substitute for training from a qualified instructor. Some guns will blow up in your face if you use reloaded ammo and don't clean them everytime. You won't find that in any manual. My more than $.02...

Why was 9/11 the cause of your "change of view".

[zr271cuda]

Rayjay I agree with you 100%. When I went for my CCW classes I was already I would say comfortable around firearms. I thought the CCW class was a joke because you learn about 1% of what you need to know before you step out the door with a loaded gun. Two years after that I went to a three day tactical training class. Talk about an eye opener! There were things I learned in that class that most people including me never thought would come up in a self defense situation. If it was up to me everyone that wants a CCW permit would have to go to this three day class. I have also learned something very important, you can leave a three day class that cost you a lot of money and be a very good shot and if you don't shoot on a regular basis you will loose those skills!

[rayjay]

Rayjay I agree with you 100%. When I went for my CCW classes I was already I would say comfortable around firearms. I thought the CCW class was a joke because you learn about 1% of what you need to know before you step out the door with a loaded gun. Two years after that I went to a three day tactical training class. Talk about an eye opener! There were things I learned in that class that most people including me never thought would come up in a self defense situation. If it was up to me everyone that wants a CCW permit would have to go to this three day class. I have also learned something very important, you can leave a three day class that cost you a lot of money and be a very good shot and if you don't shoot on a regular basis you will loose those skills!

Its like riding a bike. Practice, practice and practice some more. Kernie if someone blew up the CN Tower wouldn't you feel a lot less safe? The US has never been attacked in modern times because they won't have to just fight our military, they will have to fight every man, woman and child with everything from a .22 bolt action plinker to a fully decked out AR. Our society is not what it was 30 years ago either. I would not even think of speaking to a cop the way punks spoke to me when I was on the job.

[kernie]

Its like riding a bike. Practice, practice and practice some more. Kernie if someone blew up the CN Tower wouldn't you feel a lot less safe? The US has never been attacked in modern times because they won't have to just fight our military, they will have to fight every man, woman and child with everything from a .22 bolt action plinker to a fully decked out AR. Our society is not what it was 30 years ago either. I would not even think of speaking to a cop the way punks spoke to me when I was on the job.
Now that's just taking fear too far.

If you told me you were in a sparsly populated resource rich country with a 4,000 mile border with the most aggressive powerfull resource needin' country, well i would understand that!

[Dragcity]

"When they kick at your front door, how you gonna come? With your hands on your head, or on the trigger of your gun?"

Countries are falling apart one at a time. America from within.

I, for one, will NOT go quietly into the night.

[rayjay]

Now that's just taking fear too far.

If you told me you were in a sparsly populated resource rich country with a 4,000 mile border with the most aggressive powerfull resource needin' country, well i would understand that!

Its not fear, its reality. Kernie in all honesty, you just don't know and are better of not.

[BODYMAN]

Its like riding a bike. Practice, practice and practice some more. Kernie if someone blew up the CN Tower wouldn't you feel a lot less safe? The US has never been attacked in modern times because they won't have to just fight our military, they will have to fight every man, woman and child with everything from a .22 bolt action plinker to a fully decked out AR. Our society is not what it was 30 years ago either. I would not even think of speaking to a cop the way punks spoke to me when I was on the job.

+100 on that all other nations fear us and would think twice of invading us for this reason. Me personally I have 2 gun safes full. Shooting/hunting is my #1 hobby

[sailsmen]

Originally Posted by Sailsmen
"When resources are stretched the line between civilization and anarchy is very thin."

Originally Posted by ParkRanger
"Sorry to see that you are still off your meds."

Originally Posted by Sailsmen
"Apparently so is Brian Williams.
Deny, deny, deny and it never happened may work in LaLa Land."

Police Officers are usually a direct reflection of the community they serve, in New Orleans only officers that resided in New Orleans were eligible for promotion.

There are many who believe 1) during and after Katrina that some form of majic spell was cast upon the criminals in New Orleans and they committed no crimes and 2) only the government should be armed to protect citizens. Essentially there was no anarchy and that Law and Order were maintained.

I posted the article about the criminal acts of some members of the NOPD to prove there was anarchy and Law and Order were not maintained. When police officers did the things these officers did what do you think the criminals were doing???

Had these officers not coverd up their acts in my and in the opinon of many they would not have been convicted. Anarchy lead to the acts and the cover ups. Several friends are current and former LEO.

I have many first hand accounts of horrors I will not repeat. What I saw was what you see in Mad Max movies.

Anarchy does not confine itself, it impacts all sectors of the society it takes place in, removing all boundries to behavior. Spreading like a cold.

Why talk about it? So that others can learn that the only thing you can rely on is yourself.

[rayjay]

Sailsman, I can't argue with your logic of your last two sentences. If you can't keep your wits about you when things start going bad, it can snowball out of control real fast. If law & order break down, which I happen to believe they eventually will if a crisis goes on long enough, you are correct we have only ourselves to rely on.

[BODYMAN]

Yeah only ourselves including our weapons cache & stocked food! lol

[dakslim]

Don't know if this was posted before but this occurred a year ago in North Carolina. Take note all gun control activists!!!


How ironic………………














Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder

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State Senator R.C. Soles (D - NC) Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City , N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.
The intruder, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen andBrunswick counties..
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.
"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, the "Do as i say and not as i do" Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.
It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and personal safety is more valuable than yours or mine.
But, this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our lives, raise our kids, and protect our families better than we can.







Interesting little story here.
Please send this to your friends, senators and congressmen! We do not need double standards in this country!

[CBT]

How ironic………………










Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder

http://tpo.net/anti_gun_senator/Senator.jpg
State Senator R.C. Soles (D - NC) Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City , N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.
The intruder, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen andBrunswick counties..
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.
"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, the "Do as i say and not as i do" Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.
It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and personal safety is more valuable than yours or mine.
But, this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our lives, raise our kids, and protect our families better than we can.







Interesting little story here.
Please send this to your friends, senators and congressmen! We do not need double standards in this country!




Ironic indeed. This could very well be considered dramatic irony, come to think of it.

[PurdueRifleman]

Don't know if this was posted before but this occurred a year ago in North Carolina. Take note all gun control activists!!!


How ironic………………










Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder

http://tpo.net/anti_gun_senator/Senator.jpg
State Senator R.C. Soles (D - NC) Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City , N.C. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician's home county said.
The intruder, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen andBrunswick counties..
The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff's Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested,declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.
"I am not in a position to talk to you," Soles said by telephone. "I'm right in the middle of an investigation."
The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn't hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim.
In typical hypocritical liberal fashion, the "Do as i say and not as i do" Anti-Gun Activist Lawmaker picked up his gun and took action in what apparently was a self-defense shooting. Why hypocritical you may ask? It is because his long legislative record shows that the actions that he took to protect his family, his own response to a dangerous life threatening situation, are actions that he feels ordinary citizens should not have if they were faced with an identical situation.
It has prompted some to ask if the Senator believes his life and personal safety is more valuable than yours or mine.
But, this is to be expected from those who believe they can run our lives, raise our kids, and protect our families better than we can.







Interesting little story here.
Please send this to your friends, senators and congressmen! We do not need double standards in this country!





What? Hypocrisy from the elite anti-gun crowd? This must surely be an isolated incident! :rolleyes:

More disturbing are the allegations that he may have molested one of the alleged assailants while they were a minor.

[soultosoul13]

glad i finally found this thread!
attached is a pic of my fav.

[PurdueRifleman]

glad i finally found this thread!
attached is a pic of my fav.


Very nice! I have a friend who uses that same model as his daily carry gun.

[soultosoul13]

Very nice! I have a friend who uses that same model as his daily carry gun.

thanks,it was mine too for a while before i downsized.
now it just gets the occasional range workout...when i can afford it

[rayjay]

I believe I saw that article at the time. Makes a whole lot of nonsense... Nice pistol soul13. I got the "itch" again. 1911, Commander size, lightweight frame, in 9mm. Doing my cogitating now for a spring purchase. My favorite and local manufacturer, Dan Wesson, has just what I want, but they are pricey. As an aside, I own the 1st Commander they ever produced. Its the most accurate in my collection for some reason. :D

[soultosoul13]

I believe I saw that article at the time. Makes a whole lot of nonsense... Nice pistol soul13. I got the "itch" again. 1911, Commander size, lightweight frame, in 9mm. Doing my cogitating now for a spring purchase. My favorite and local manufacturer, Dan Wesson, has just what I want, but they are pricey. As an aside, I own the 1st Commander they ever produced. Its the most accurate in my collection for some reason. :D

never shot a wesson, but i wish i could! i just love the feel of a 1911. the perfect machine. i have thought about getting a .22 conversion for it....just so i could hold it more!
Les Baer customs is, or was, based in iowa, they are pretty popular around here.

[PurdueRifleman]

That's the truth. Used to be you could buy 7.62x54R at $2.25/box and now it's roughly 3x that. Hard to believe that a mere six years ago this hobby didn't force the average shooter into handloading.

[rayjay]

That's the truth. Used to be you could buy 7.62x54R at $2.25/box and now it's roughly 3x that. Hard to believe that a mere six years ago this hobby didn't force the average shooter into handloading.
Prices are coming down, slowly, but still down. I doubt we will ever see Blazer for 3.99 a box again. I did pickup copper washed Russian Tula 9mm for 7.50 a box in a case lot last month. I have to get a reloading setup. I like shooting 45acp too much not too.

[RacerX]

Top Shot on tonight. Cool except for the drama that happens when you throw people that are the best at things all together to prove who is THE best...:beer:

[soultosoul13]

Top Shot on tonight. Cool except for the drama that happens when you throw people that are the best at things all together to prove who is THE best...:beer:

Top Shot featured 1911s last night! AWESOME!!!
it looks like this season is going to be alot better than the last. they are giving more info on the guns, and already the have had 1911s and a .44mag! the previews showed a M1 and a .50cal coming up!

[MM2004]

Colt 1991 A1 Officer's Model.

Tricked out years ago by a buddy of mine.

Skeletonized Hammer,
Adjustable Trigger, -3 lb
Beaver-Tail Safety,
Slide Safety,
Extended Magazine Well,
Barrel Bushing with Guide Rod Assembly - Dual Springs + Bumper.

Throated Barrel and Ramp-Job.
Slide tightened/matched to frame.

Frame relieved under trigger guard and Pachmayr Grips.

Chip McCormick Magazines (not shown).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/Colt1991A1002copy.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/Colt1991A1003copy.jpg

Mike.

[RacerX]

That's a beaut Mike!!!

[soultosoul13]

colt 1991 a1 officer's model.

Tricked out years ago by a buddy of mine.

Skeletonized hammer,
adjustable trigger, -3 lb
beaver-tail safety,
slide safety,
extended magazine well,
barrel bushing with guide rod assembly - dual springs + bumper.

Throated barrel and ramp-job.
Slide tightened/matched to frame.

Frame relieved under trigger guard and pachmayr grips.

Chip mccormick magazines (not shown).

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/colt1991a1002copy.jpg

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/colt1991a1003copy.jpg

mike.

absolutely perfect!

[CBT]

i just love the feel of a 1911. the perfect machine.
That's what I'm talkin' about.

[MM2004]

Thanks guys.

I failed to mention the Colt (above) will feed and eject empties as fast as you can rack the slide with very little to no damage to the brass.

Nor jams.

Although, it prefers a diet of 230 Gr. JHP Winchester SXT's.

:D

Mike.

[RacerX]

Although, it prefers a diet of 230 Gr. JHP Winchester SXT's.
Try some RDX and a percussion cap to fill the hollow point... :D

[Drewstang]

I need to get some pics of my carry rig, but its a G19 3rd Gen with a Houge rubber grip.

[Haggis]

Try some RDX and a percussion cap to fill the hollow point... :D

Mercury works better.

[rayjay]

Just to let you guys know that the sportsmansguide has Federal 180grn HST in 40 S&W at a good price. I have a coupon code that will get you free shipping if you buy 5 boxes. PM me for the code. This stuff is the real deal too, police packaged. HST is some of, if not, the best defensive ammo you buy.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=771968&ecid=E107D&em

[RacerX]

Mercury works better.
If you use them quick, if you store it, the mercury actually soaks into the lead creating an amalgam. Don't get it on gold like a watch... I know. :(

[Taemian]

Just to let you guys know that the sportsmansguide has Federal 180grn HST in 40 S&W at a good price. I have a coupon code that will get you free shipping if you buy 5 boxes. PM me for the code. This stuff is the real deal too, police packaged. HST is some of, if not, the best defensive ammo you buy.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=771968&ecid=E107D&em

A valid code is right on their homepage. Why all the cloak and dagger?? Just post up the code.:confused:

[Taemian]

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/19121

My current rig. M&P in 9mm, polished feed ramp and chamber are the only internal mods. Viridian green laser/light combo on the front rail.

Viridian replaced under warranty when first one went snafu after only 50 rounds(?!?) and new one has 500+ with no problems. Great unit except for small buttons for all the many variable settings. I just set it up for the full pull and one button lights up the max lumens with a pulsing laser. The pulsing really allows a fast pick up in daylight conditions, and is much better than the old red Crimson Trace.

Serpa holster before light/laser, Crye Industries version on order. Side break will take some getting used to, that's for sure! But me being a lefty, a custom holster was needed for the Viridian.Blade Tech and others passed.:(

[Taemian]

Double post......

[rayjay]

A valid code is right on their homepage. Why all the cloak and dagger?? Just post up the code.:confused:

You are correct sir! I received that in a email with other buyers club deals so I thought it was some hidden special. Doh! :banghead:

Oh well, I'm very happy with 50 rnd boxes of Federal HST for $22 U.S., that is a deal and not generally available.

Oh yea, the code, SH698, with restrictions.

[Taemian]

You are correct sir! I received that in a email with other buyers club deals so I thought it was some hidden special. Doh! :banghead:

Oh well, I'm very happy with 50 rnd boxes of Federal HST for $22 U.S., that is a deal and not generally available.

Oh yea, the code, SH698, with restrictions.

You are also correct, that is a great ammo you chose! I've been experimenting alot with different brands and it's amazing to me how different a gun can perform so much better (or worse) with only an ammo change. I think many people mod their gun waaay too soon after getting it when they aren't happy with performance. Ammo selection can be key, and the most expensive ammo doesn't always mean the tightest groups. Firearms can sure be finicky!

[rayjay]

You are also correct, that is a great ammo you chose! I've been experimenting alot with different brands and it's amazing to me how different a gun can perform so much better (or worse) with only an ammo change. I think many people mod their gun waaay too soon after getting it when they aren't happy with performance. Ammo selection can be key, and the most expensive ammo doesn't always mean the tightest groups. Firearms can sure be finicky!

You hit the nail on the head. I have a Kahr T-40 that prefers 155grn ammo over anything else. My one Browning HP only works well with 124grn, but another wants 115 grn. Trying to figure out what HP will work in a new 1911 is always fun :D, but can get exspensive.

The 180 grn HST is for personal protection, not target shooting, so it doesn't matter. My old eyes don't do 25 yrd shots anymore.

[yjmud]

anyone in the wisconsin illinois area want to do rauders and ranges in the spring time

[Wags]

I have my .340 Weatherby for my moose and brown bear hunting, an old Sears Ted Williams 30-30 lever from the '60s, and many bows. The Weatherby is just a great big game rifle to use. It blows away my old .338 win mag. have only one handgun, an old Colt Frontier .22 from 1959. My friends dad bought it new, and he also gave me the paperwork from when he purchased it. He paid $56 for it, including a holster for it! I mainly bow hunt for moose, but the gun greatly increases my chances and range.

Wags

[rayjay]

I have my .340 Weatherby for my moose and brown bear hunting, an old Sears Ted Williams 30-30 lever from the '60s, and many bows. The Weatherby is just a great big game rifle to use. It blows away my old .338 win mag. have only one handgun, an old Colt Frontier .22 from 1959. My friends dad bought it new, and he also gave me the paperwork from when he purchased it. He paid $56 for it, including a holster for it! I mainly bow hunt for moose, but the gun greatly increases my chances and range.

Wags

Bow hunting moose? You are a brave man. Thats one large animal to bring down with a arrow and not something I'd want lookin for me wounded.

[Wags]

It can be done....if you get lucky. This was from a few years ago. Got him to get within 30yds. Bad move on his part......

[PurdueRifleman]

It can be done....if you get lucky. This was from a few years ago. Got him to get within 30yds. Bad move on his part......

Good work! Would love to book a moose hunt someday. I'm afraid whitetails are all that are in my budget for the foreseeable future though.

[kernie]

It can be done....if you get lucky. This was from a few years ago. Got him to get within 30yds. Bad move on his part......

Wow, what a magnificent animal that was.

[RR|Suki]

I think I forgot to post this:
Ruger SP101 .357 Magnum. Bought it a couple weeks ago, love it so far, gonna talk my brother into getting one instead of the GP100

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss143/VTRauder/IMG_0586c.jpg?t=1298322054

[PurdueRifleman]

I think I forgot to post this:
Ruger SP101 .357 Magnum. Bought it a couple weeks ago, love it so far, gonna talk my brother into getting one instead of the GP100

http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss143/VTRauder/IMG_0586c.jpg?t=1298322054


I carry the 2 1/4" version in .357 when I'm wearing lighter clothes. Those SP101s are great shooting guns for sure. For having such a short sight radius, they are fairly accurate.

[jabird56]

Ah...moose hunt, what fun. Pics of my moose from SEP04, NW Ontario.

[RR|Suki]

I like really like carrying it so far, I actually may like carrying it IWB better than my Glock 39.

[rayjay]

It can be done....if you get lucky. This was from a few years ago. Got him to get within 30yds. Bad move on his part......

He took a tree down when he fell :eek: Those are some large a$$ animals. A guy that I used to work with went moose hunting with his brother in ME and they almost sunk their boat trying to get in. I can't remember the story as to why it had to go in the boat in the 1st place. Both you and Jabird should be proud to have had the chance to hunt such game. Every so often one makes its way into NYS. Whitetails, we have way too many off. I have 5 living in my yard as we speak.

[Wags]

rayjay,

Thanks. That was the first one that I ever got with a bow. Have a few by gun, but that one was really exciting. It's a different world when you can't shoot them from 150+ yds. I was shaking in my boots with the bow one. It's a little too close if something goes wrong. I got lucky. My buddy and I go every year to different areas. Sometimes we just get dropped off and on our own for 2 wks, or sometimes we will stay at an outfitters cabin (nice when the weather is bad, a cabin beats a tent). Got skunked last fall. Hopefully get one this fall (almost out of meat)!

jabird56

I really like the color of your moose. Really pretty, with nice antlers.:banana: Did you get it mounted? Where in Ontario did you go? What rifle is that in your pic?


Wags

[rayjay]

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This has to be the ugliest pistol I have ever seen... :puke: Not to mention it looks too much like a toy. I can imagine some little kid finding this in mommies purse, scares me.