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Pat
07-13-2010, 01:29 PM
I've been following the latest effort to stop the oil gusher in the gulf.

This new top cap device, 40 ft tall and 150 K lbs with three closing rams has been inserted into the sawed off riser pipe of the blown out well.

If pressure testing with the new cap installed is successful this should stop the flow of oil.

The expected pressure, many thousands of pounds per square inch, must be held for a period of about 48 hours. Then the cap may be considered successful.

If the pressure, although initially high, begins to drop significantly then that indicates the well has perforated and oil will be coming through the sea bed over a very wide area. No containment will be possible.

The relief wells that are tasked to drill into the existing well at 3.3 miles below the sea bed are hoping to be completed in the next few weeks or sooner.

This access to the well hole will then be plugged with cement and the fix is permanent, if one can use that word.

Keep praying the cap will be successful until the relief wells can accomplish their task.

BTW, BP stock is rising. Buy low, sell high eh?

Egon Spengler
07-13-2010, 01:34 PM
I have been following this as well. Hope it works! Engineering always facinated me. Hopefully this will be a good temporary hold until they can get those reliefs tapped!

vkirkend
07-13-2010, 01:34 PM
Already in.....

Egon Spengler
07-13-2010, 01:48 PM
Already in.....
I know, but will it hold until they can re-route and plug?

Leadfoot281
07-13-2010, 04:13 PM
BTW, BP stock is rising. Buy low, sell high eh?

I recently got completely hammered on BP stock. I bought low and then "they" (not BP) thought it was a good idea to cancel their quarterly dividend payments. :mad2:

SC Cheesehead
07-13-2010, 07:07 PM
+1 on the fix.

This has been my world for the past 46 days.

See if you recognize anyone around 1.46 of the clip...
http://bp.concerts.com/gom/respondervillage062810.htm

DOOM
07-13-2010, 07:18 PM
Already in.....

That's what she said! :depress:

sailsmen
07-14-2010, 04:25 AM
I recently got completely hammered on BP stock. I bought low and then "they" (not BP) thought it was a good idea to cancel their quarterly dividend payments. :mad2:

"Now is not the time to make profits", said the teleprompter.

mrjones
07-14-2010, 05:40 AM
That's what she said! :depress:

Already in?

Shouldn't that be: "That's what she axt?"


Cool video. My BIL works for BP. He probably helped buy some of that stuff to be put in the village. He's in procurement, which I think means buying stuff.

CBT
07-14-2010, 07:12 AM
I already said how to fix it, put a wedding band around it, it will stop putting out.

juno
07-14-2010, 07:17 AM
I think I heard 9000 psi of pressure in the well. That must be one heck of a cap!
What is the actual seabed depth? Weight of the water would be about 44 psi for 100 feet.
So, if it was 5000 feet, water would exert about 2200 psi on the outside of it.

LIGHTNIN1
07-14-2010, 03:15 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_201006160408 48


I am sure Energy Secretary Chu has everyones best interest in mind by holding up progress on capping the oil well. Yeah,Right.

Marauderjack
07-14-2010, 03:25 PM
They are now worried about a BLOWOUT OUTSIDE THE CASING which will be TOTALLY UNCONTROLLABLE!!:eek:

Shutting down the "VENT" in testing could be a disaster!!:shake:

Seems that capturing the vented oil makes pretty good sense while the relief well is being finished??:confused:

sailsmen
07-14-2010, 03:41 PM
BP founded the Carbon Trading Lobby in DC. Several have stated that thhe other major oils would not have designed the well that way and more importantly had they MMS would not have approved the well for them. $16 million in DC Lobbying must buy something?

BP funds search for green fuels at UC Berkeley
lrosenhall@sacbee.com
Published Sunday, Jun. 06, 2010


A picture of an oiled bird is taped to the wall above Charlie Anderson's desk inside a UC Berkeley lab. The cormorant, drenched in reddish-brown oil, lies limp on a Louisiana shore, water rippling around its splayed wings.

On a hook next to the picture hangs Anderson's white lab coat, embroidered with the words "Energy Biosciences Institute."

The connection between the crisp lab coat in Berkeley and the oiled bird more than 2,000 miles away is BP, the petroleum company responsible for the largest oil spill in U.S. history. BP sponsors the Energy Biosciences Institute at Cal, a buzzing lab of 300 researchers trying to make fuel out of plants.

It may seem incongruous that an oil company responsible for such environmental devastation is funding this effort to find green fuels and reduce oil use. But the scientists here say what they're doing is more important than where they get the money.

"Everybody here at EBI is interested in coming up with solutions that will eliminate the need to search for oil in ways that are dangerous," Anderson said.

"What the oil spill has done is add urgency to that mission."

For some, however, the spill also has raised new questions about a research partnership that has been controversial from the start, marrying the profit-driven interests of a global oil company with the brains and cachet of one of the world's top universities.

The $500 million BP pledged in 2007 to form the Energy Biosciences Institute was the largest corporate sponsorship ever of university research. The gift – doled out over 10 years to UC Berkeley, the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign – created an institute to research plant-based fuels such as ethanol.

Critics accused BP of "greenwashing," trying to buy a more environmentally friendly image. Others questioned whether the university could maintain its academic integrity while taking such a large corporate gift. They feared the deal would blur the lines between the company's mission to make money and the university's to create knowledge.

Now, with BP oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, the environmental disaster is causing some to wonder whether Berkeley should continue the relationship. The contract allows the university to pull out if "a discrete event were to occur" that violates UC Berkeley's principles.

And those principles, according to guidelines written by Cal professors, say the university "should avoid any collaboration that would render it an active participant in criminal conduct, human rights violations, or environmental despoliation." The guidelines also say the university should sever ties with companies engaged in criminal conduct.


Criminal probe under way

A lot remains unknown about what caused the Deepwater Horizon oil rig to blow up on April 20, killing 11 people and causing an undersea pipe to gush oil for weeks. No criminal charges have been filed, but federal authorities say they are investigating whether crimes occurred.

"If it turns out that BP is guilty of serious criminal misconduct in relation to its environmental obligations, that could raise a question under this clause" of the contract, Chris Kutz, a UC Berkeley law professor who chairs the academic Senate, wrote in an e-mail to The Bee.

"But I believe it is premature to begin any serious discussion until more facts are known."

Paul Willems, a BP employee who serves as deputy director of the center, said the company has "not had any indications" that UC Berkeley is re-evaluating the relationship.

"Our motivation for being involved in this research is to get to more sustainable energy solutions," he said. "In the two and a half years we've been here, the people on campus who have worked with us have seen the truth of that intent."

Critics endure, however. Anthropology professor Laura Nader, sister of activist Ralph Nader, argued three years ago – at the Energy Biosciences Institute's inception – that Berkeley shouldn't take money from BP. Last month, she wrote a letter to the chancellor chastising the deal.

"Your anthropology faculty told you this was a criminal corporation," she wrote. "Listen to the anthropologists – we know some things that other scientists might not."


BP offer came as surprise

Graham Fleming, UC Berkeley's vice chancellor for research, said he doesn't expect to cut ties with BP.

"We don't want to sacrifice our research when it has such promise," Fleming said.

UC Berkeley had set renewable energy research as a priority years before it struck its deal with BP, Fleming said.

"We had no clue where the money would come from," he said. "And we were very surprised to get the letter from BP one day asking us if we wanted to compete for the EBI. This wasn't something where we went chasing the money. We had this idea all along."

That "we" includes Fleming and Steven Chu, the former head of the Lawrence Berkeley National Lab who is now the U.S. secretary of energy. Chu's undersecretary, Steven Koonin, worked for BP in 2007 and played a role in the company's decision to award Berkeley the $500 million for the institute.

Many of the institute's scientists said they don't see much difference between getting money from a company and getting it from the government, the other major source of funding for scientific research. Both have agendas that drive research, said Chris Somerville, a Cal plant biologist and the institute's director.

"People ask how I feel about the fact that BP has had this big accident, and my response is we certainly don't endorse everything BP does. But we don't endorse everything the federal government does, and we take money from them as well," Somerville said.


BP 'fairly hands-off'

Melinda Clark, a 29-year-old postdoctoral student who works at the Energy Biosciences Institute, said she feels BP's influence in small ways. As a graduate student elsewhere, Clark said she was used to sharing her discoveries openly with other scientists. Now, when Clark prepares to present her research at conferences, she first must run it past BP. The company gets dibs to license anything institute researchers invent.

"There have been a few things that they've asked me to be a little bit more vague about," she said. "But they are fairly hands-off. You get to pursue your own ideas."

BP has 14 employees who work behind closed doors in a private suite on the third floor of the Energy Biosciences Institute. The rest of the staff – employed by the university or the national lab – work in open bays filled with test tubes, beakers and elaborate machinery. More BP employees likely will join the institute when it moves to a new UC Berkeley building in 2013.

Partnerships between companies and colleges go back to the 1800s, said Jennifer Washburn, author of "University, Inc.," a book about corporate influences on universities.

But the nature of the deals changed significantly in the 1980s, she said, when Congress passed a law giving universities the right to patent and license their discoveries for commercial use.

"It put a new kind of profit motive into the heart of the university that did not exist in those earlier academic-industry relations," Washburn said.

In an upcoming report called "Big Oil Goes Back to College," Washburn takes a closer look at how oil companies are shaping university research. The report examines the institute at UC Berkeley as well as Chevron's sponsorship of UC Davis research and Exxon's ties with Stanford.

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