With a BBC and Twins......

[martyo]

Would I still have a Marauder?

*discuss*

[ImpalaSlayer]

i think that should say BBF and twins. you put a bowtie in that and i will hate you! :D

[martyo]

i think that should say BBF and twins.

I can make a faster, cheaper BBC than I can a BBF.

But if I did a BBF and twins, would that still be a Marauder?

[ImpalaSlayer]

I can make a faster, cheaper BBC than I can a BBF.

But if I did a BBF and twins, would that still be a Marauder?

yes, anything blue and you are good to go. i love to see that really.

[justbob]

Not in my book. LAME

[-Matt-]

I can make a faster, cheaper BBC than I can a BBF.

But if I did a BBF and twins, would that still be a Marauder?

Since when has money been an issue? :P

[ImpalaSlayer]

Not in my book. LAME
even with a bbf? it hink it would be ****in awesome

[CBT]

I can make a faster, cheaper BBC than I can a BBF.

But if I did a BBF and twins, would that still be a Marauder?

are we still talking cars :confused:

[Joe Walsh]

YES! Go for it Marty!!!

BBF that is!

If I had any modding money, Jon Kaase would already have a check from me for a 521 BOSS making only 770 HP....N/A

and those gorgeous BOSS valve covers happen to be narrower than our 4.6 modular V8s...heh heh heh...:D

Oh so sweet!...and he is in 'your neck of the woods'!
http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/component/content/article/217-jon-kaase-custom-built-boss-nine-and-p-51-engines.html

God only knows what TTs would do on that BOSS 521!!!.....:bows:

[justbob]

BBF. NO problem. When I see a car of any year, make, model with a different companies engine, I shake my head in disgust and walk away. Trannies, rear ends, thats fine, but NOT the engine, that is just wrong.

You see this commonly in the 20's thru 40's Fords, never could understand why? Again, LAME.

[ImpalaSlayer]

BBF. NO problem. When I see a car of any year, make, model with a different companies engine, I shake my head in disgust and walk away. Trannies, rear ends, thats fine, but NOT the engine, that is just wrong.

You see this commonly in the 20's thru 40's Fords, never could understand why? Again, LAME.

oh yes, totally agree.

[-Matt-]

This:

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/products/engines/820-ford-hemi/66-820-ford-hemi.html

http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/images/stories/815fordhemi.jpg

[LANDY]

i say keep the mod motor, even tho it could not be taken to the level and relabilty of a BBC or BBF,thats what makes your car unique marty.
i bet lots of the Chevy boys are not runnng LT1's.

[Pops]

A BBF or be the first 5.4 mod motor. It is a race car Marty! Sorry for being partial to the Blue Oval! I would suggest an FE but you know what that stands for. 460 based would be the way to go.

[Joe Walsh]

I can make a faster, cheaper BBC than I can a BBF.
But if I did a BBF and twins, would that still be a Marauder?

Cheaper building a BBC?....sure!

But how much $$$ did you put your mod motor vs. a built, bulletproof BBF?

Faster using a BBC?.....NOT!

....and certainly not very original.*

Making a Mod engine run as fast as you have in a 2 ton four door sedan is the most original concept.

Stuffing an old school, BIG inch BBF (BOSS, FE or 385 series) into a Marauder is still very cool!

Shoving a BBC in a Marauder is.......just WRONG!

*I'm so friggin' tired of seeing;
Cobra kits with a Chevy 350...:shake:
Mustangs with LS engines...:rolleyes:,
Deuce Coupes with the ubiquitous SBC...:sleepy:

[Zack]

You need a 427 LSx with Twins.

[secretservice]

There are enough Chebbie powered Fox's already. It's disgusting. I have a spare 289, 390, and 351 in the garage. I'm putting one of them in a Camaro. :shake:

I hate the Ford rods with Chevy power. Makes me sick. It's lazy. If you're gonna do it, do it right. Standby for pics of an 80's Camaro with a 351M in it. :D

All Marauders have mods in them, I have to admit it would be pretty cool to see a 385 powered one. Being an FE guy myself, i don't see an FE being the most efficient way to get the job done. They are just too heavy. They move air like the devil, but they're heavy. A 385 in a MM is along the same lines as a BB 385 Fox, it's done often because it works and works well. Make sure it's over 500 ci for awesomeness factor, and don't forget the spray. ;)

[martyo]

We could always do a 418 with twins......

[Zack]

We could always do a 418 with twins......

If I could have some 420 THEN some twins....:D

[secretservice]

Lots of goodies out there for Windsors... They're cheaper to build than BBC's. And would fit better.

[Zack]

Doing whats the most challenging is always the coolest in the end, regardless of how it performs (or doesnt)

[secretservice]

If I could have some 420 THEN some twins....:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqoYvlEZis
:D

[SC Cheesehead]

i think that should say BBF and twins. you put a bowtie in that and i will hate you! :D


^^^^^^ What he said. ^^^^^^

Well, I won't hate you no matter what you do, but IMO, it should be a BBF.

[Zack]

You wanna be different, put a stroked 540 BBC------> Cadillac

[CBT]

If I could have some 420 THEN some twins....:D
:rasta:
Wasn't there a twin turbo Marauder somewhere in Texas :confused:

[yjmud]

be really different 427 sohc
8ft of chain FTW

[prchrman]

Marty go with the BBF it will make more HP. Can be made to have more CI than GM and nearly all head to head engine builder competitions have had BBF ahead of BBC. The mopar big blocks give BBF a run for it's money. I guess there are some $ advantages but some of the guys I know say it is a wash. If you go with a BBC it will not be a MM.

[martyo]

I am also thinking about doing twins on the mod motor.

That'd be cool too, no?

[Joe Walsh]

You need a 427 LSx with Twins....In an Impala!

There....fixed it for ya!...:D

[martyo]

Marty go with the BBF it will make more HP. Can be made to have more CI than GM and nearly all head to head engine builder competitions have had BBF ahead of BBC. The mopar big blocks give BBF a run for it's money. I guess there are some $ advantages but some of the guys I know say it is a wash. If you go with a BBC it will not be a MM.

either way, I am going to have to sell a bunch of fender badges to fund the project!!! :help:

[secretservice]

Doing whats the most challenging is always the coolest in the end, regardless of how it performs (or doesnt)

At the risk of oversimplifying, I think somebody willing to step out of the box and even consider a pushrod engine for a MM track car is worth watching. fwiw, I actually was considering a mod engine for my Torino enough to buy a Lincoln Intech and all the wiring a few years back. I ended up selling it all, and decided to go FE stroker. I agree with you, different is good, to an extent. Not the Chevy in a Ford extent, but maybe a nice Windsor or 385. You'll pay a weight penalty for the BB, but the Windsor would hang the skinnies pretty easy. :cool:

[LANDY]

I am also thinking about doing twins on the mod motor.

That'd be cool too, no? now your talking. You can get over 1000hp with the right set up.

[Joe Walsh]

There are enough Chebbie powered Fox's already. It's disgusting. :shake:

AMEN!

I have a spare 289, 390, and 351 in the garage. I'm putting one of them in a Camaro.

COOL! It'll make the Bowtie guys cringe!

I hate the Ford rods with Chevy power. Makes me sick. It's lazy. If you're gonna do it, do it right. Standby for pics of an 80's Camaro with a 351M in it. :D

AMEN again brutha!

All Marauders have mods in them, I have to admit it would be pretty cool to see a 385 powered one.
Being an FE guy myself, i don't see an FE being the most efficient way to get the job done. They are just too heavy.
They move air like the devil, but they're heavy. A 385 in a MM is along the same lines as a BB 385 Fox, it's done often because it works and works well. Make sure it's over 500 ci for awesomeness factor, and don't forget the spray. ;)

Not necessarily!....My brother and I found a way to make our 427 Cobra even lighter!
Ya' gotta pay to play!....V V V
http://www.carrollshelbyenginecompany .com/xcart/product.php?productid=16195



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[Zack]

Maybe fix the belts on the current setup and re-evaluate?

[secretservice]

Not necessarily!....My brother and I found a way to make our 427 Cobra even lighter!
Ya' gotta pay to play!....V V V
http://www.carrollshelbyenginecompan. ..roductid=16195
That's just beautiful. I'm still collecting FE parts for two cars, mine and the wife's Galaxie. That link is officially bookmarked lol. Although it would be cheaper for me to just go on a diet... I hit 250 lbs this summer lol. If I dropped 50 lbs by the time the Torino is ready to hit the track...:rolleyes:

[prchrman]

either way, I am going to have to sell a bunch of fender badges to fund the project!!! :help:

Go to 460ford.com and see if there are any ready built ones. Used to be there were several for sale that were priced very low for HP you would get, also lots of info on how to build and parts and such.

[SILVERSURFER03]

NELSON RACING ENGINES w/twin turbines hahahaha more power

[White Knuckles]

The smoke must be clearing off the CC------I like your thinking:D

[dohc324ci]

I am also thinking about doing twins on the mod motor.

That'd be cool too, no?
Staying Modular would be my vote! Put a poll together that would be interesting.



FRPP BOSS50 Big Bore Stroker
FRPP Built Coyote
FRPP Aluminator 4.6 4v SC
FRPP BBF - 521ci

If you had to go with the General:


GMPP BBC ZZ502ci
GMPP 427 LS7
GMPP LS9 SC
GM LQ4/LQ9 408ci (LS1 guys going this route)

[secretservice]

Pretty sure I know the results on GM power. It needs replaced with:

1. 427 Windsor Stroker w/ hairdryer (big single or twin)
2. 532 or 545 BBF stroker on spray with a Dommie on top
3. 347 Fuelie with a centri huffer
4. Now in the running, thanks to Joe Walsh, an all aluminum FE with lots of spray. FE's love love love the spray.

That's a list I would vote on. If Chevy is in the running, I'll do what I did for the presidential election. Sit at home and watch the mistake happen. :D

[NTHE10s]

I am also thinking about doing twins on the mod motor.

That'd be cool too, no?

Twins on the mod motor first. if this is going on the car you have now. it wouldnt be that hard to change. plus you don't need to worry about sling belts...

look at my little single turbo 2v. It has run best of 11.3 with avg 12.7lbs. it will be it the 10's in a week or so.

Good luck with the build.

oh and i drive her 60miles a day. I LOVE TURBO's 17mpg

[magindat]

I humbly submit that part of what makes a Marauder a Marauder is the under-dog-ish nature of the little 281 that could. I mean really. Making a big car go fast is tough enough, but to do so at the levels we've achieved with a mere 281 cubic inch based block?! Now THAT sets us apart.

Even my meager (by Marty's or Tom's standard) power output and performance inspire awe around my little town. I open the hood and 'Man, that's a big motor.' And then to say 'it's only a 281' just plain old leaves mouths agape.

Think about it. You pulled a 9.62 at over 4000 lbs with a mere 281 cubic inches. To say you pulled a 9.62 in a Mustang with a 383 is kinda like 'so what'. To say you pulled it in a full body sedan.... with a 4.6 is SOMETHING!

So in the end, if you put a big block in it - it will still say 'MARAUDER' on the bumper, but it will lose it's true spirit of leaving them confounded.

:beer:

[rayjay]

I humbly submit that part of what makes a Marauder a Marauder is the under-dog-ish nature of the little 281 that could. I mean really. Making a big car go fast is tough enough, but to do so at the levels we've achieved with a mere 281 cubic inch based block?! Now THAT sets us apart.

Even my meager (by Marty's or Tom's standard) power output and performance inspire awe around my little town. I open the hood and 'Man, that's a big motor.' And then to say 'it's only a 281' just plain old leaves mouths agape.

Think about it. You pulled a 9.62 at over 4000 lbs with a mere 281 cubic inches. To say you pulled a 9.62 in a Mustang with a 383 is kinda like 'so what'. To say you pulled it in a full body sedan.... with a 4.6 is SOMETHING!

So in the end, if you put a big block in it - it will still say 'MARAUDER' on the bumper, but it will lose it's true spirit of leaving them confounded.

:beer:

Well said.

[Joe Walsh]

I humbly submit that part of what makes a Marauder a Marauder is the under-dog-ish nature of the little 281 that could. I mean really. Making a big car go fast is tough enough, but to do so at the levels we've achieved with a mere 281 cubic inch based block?! Now THAT sets us apart.

Even my meager (by Marty's or Tom's standard) power output and performance inspire awe around my little town. I open the hood and 'Man, that's a big motor.' And then to say 'it's only a 281' just plain old leaves mouths agape.

Think about it. You pulled a 9.62 at over 4000 lbs with a mere 281 cubic inches. To say you pulled a 9.62 in a Mustang with a 383 is kinda like 'so what'. To say you pulled it in a full body sedan.... with a 4.6 is SOMETHING!

So in the end, if you put a big block in it - it will still say 'MARAUDER' on the bumper, but it will lose it's true spirit of leaving them confounded.

:beer:

I absolutely agree with what you've said....Making a lil' 281 run like that is incredible!
I guess that I look at it this way....after you've huffed the living snot out of a modular 4.6...taken it to the outer limits...to the point that it is very unreliable and breaks all the time.
Then, if it were me, I'd say; "OK I've done enough with the 'little motor that could' but not on a reliable basis."
"Now it's time to get REALLY serious about HP and drop in some big cubes and a run-all-day at 1,200 HP, twin turbo BBF."

BTW: If you want to get crazy, do something like this.....only with a Ford Twin Turbo 6.4 Powerstroke in a Marauder!
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0906phr_1970_chevy_chevelle_tu rbo_diesel/index.html

950 HP....1700 FT-LBS TQ.....and 32 mpg!

[martyo]

Looks like I need a financial backer!!!!

[Joe Walsh]

Looks like I need a financial backer!!!!

LOL!

Marty, don't you love how we spend all your (hypothetical) money!

[Motorhead350]

Do whatever and to hell with what everyone thinks. It's the only way to live.

[Leadfoot281]

Looks like I need a financial backer!!!!

I've got a plumber you can sue. ;)

[martyo]

i've got a plumber you can sue. ;)

lol!!!


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[rayjay]

Just a thought, leave your record breaker as she is. Buy a high mileage Marauder on the cheap, do the engine swap, buildup and have at it.

[martyo]

Just a thought, leave your record breaker as she is. Buy a high mileage Marauder on the cheap, do the engine swap, buildup and have at it.

Now I need two finacial backers!

[CBT]

Now I need two finacial backers!

Didn't your gal just pass the bar? Maybe put her name on the fuel door or the roll bar as a sponsor, CHA-CHING!