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03blackmerc
12-20-2010, 11:03 AM
this is actually a mustang related question. you guys have been real helpful in the past with any ford questions ive asked. my mustang forums are filled with kids who dont know much so i figured its worth a shot on here. i bought a new battery for my 89 GT today. long story short i hooked up the terminals ass backwards. (did i mention im an idiot?) only for a second i got a quick spark out of what looks like the ground wire thats connected to the car by the battery. the car turns over and runs but is not gettin a charge now. i had a warrenty on the alternator so i took it back and got a replacement. with the new alternator hooked up, still no charge. PLease help a mentaly challenged person out? Thanks

Pops
12-20-2010, 11:12 AM
You may burned up a fusible link. Its also possible that the ECM is shorted out after this.

fastblackmerc
12-20-2010, 11:14 AM
You may burned up a fusible link. Its also possible that the ECM is shorted out after this.

+1....

Check the fusible links first.

03blackmerc
12-20-2010, 12:30 PM
if the ECM was damaged wouldnt the car not run at all? i dont think the computer controls the alternator on this car but then again im not sure. i was told by a few people to check the fuseable links. im crossing my fingers

Blk Mamba
12-20-2010, 12:35 PM
The ECM does control the alternator, it sends an exciter voltage to the to the alternator.

4drcbra
12-20-2010, 01:44 PM
Links first, then ECM. if it fails put 347 stroker in it. That fixes anything

martyo
12-20-2010, 01:56 PM
Look at the fusible links near the starter relay first. It is on the fender well. They will be either black and yellow or black and orange (you can tell what they are because they are thick with black insulators).

I don't think you got the ECM if the car cranks and runs -- looks like you dodged a bullet there.

martyo
12-20-2010, 01:57 PM
put 347 stroker in it. That fixes anything

This is true!

ctrlraven
12-20-2010, 02:22 PM
This is true!
331 twin turbo is even better.

Dragcity
12-20-2010, 02:26 PM
If your'e dreaming, might as well go for a 427 side oiler with dual quads and overhead cams and skip all the piping.

WI Fordguy
12-20-2010, 04:07 PM
+1 on the fusible links. On that car it's possible that the alternator itself was shorted out, seen that a few times at work.

4play
12-20-2010, 06:16 PM
i did the same thing to my 87 cherokee, fried the wire from the battery to the starter.

03blackmerc
12-20-2010, 06:50 PM
just took a quick look today for the fusibile links only found one of them off the solinoid. i couldnt get too far due to a snow storm today and unfoutunatly no garage. i also fried the radio but nothing else seems damaged. man im an idiot.

massacre
12-20-2010, 06:52 PM
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03blackmerc
12-20-2010, 06:54 PM
+1 on the fusible links. On that car it's possible that the alternator itself was shorted out, seen that a few times at work.

i put a new alternator in it yesterday after the incident. i took the old one to Advanced auto they tested it and said it was junk. the old one was only four months old to begin with so i got a replacment for free, but unfortuantly still no voltage. it is only making 11.8v running

massacre
12-20-2010, 07:07 PM
Have you tried a new battery(just to rule that out)?

03blackmerc
12-20-2010, 07:22 PM
true, i never tried changing the battery. it turns the car over fine but maybe i fudged something up in it.

massacre
12-20-2010, 07:23 PM
Do you have a voltmeter?

Blackened300a
12-21-2010, 06:27 AM
I went through 3 alternators from NAPA til I got one that works. I'm never 100% sure of aftermarket alternators and starters.

thathotrodlincn
12-21-2010, 06:32 AM
Diode bank in alternator?

Blk Mamba
12-21-2010, 06:44 AM
Diode bank in the alternator is part of the voltage regulator.

03blackmerc
12-21-2010, 11:02 AM
The alternator and and voltage regulator are one unit and i already bought a brand new one after i fried it. i also had them test it as soon as they took it out of the box and it was fine.

4play
12-21-2010, 06:11 PM
with engine running put volt meter on battery.

fastblackmerc
12-21-2010, 08:36 PM
Have you tried a new battery(just to rule that out)?


true, i never tried changing the battery. it turns the car over fine but maybe i fudged something up in it.

If the battery can turn over the starter there is nothing wrong with it..... :shake:

03blackmerc
12-22-2010, 10:32 AM
with the car running volt meter reads 11.8 - 11.9. i know its suppose to make at least 14v. i also checked the wire diagram, and there is two fusable links that are before the alternator. i just cant seem to locate them.

fastblackmerc
12-22-2010, 11:33 AM
with the car running volt meter reads 11.8 - 11.9. i know its suppose to make at least 14v. i also checked the wire diagram, and there is two fusable links that are before the alternator. i just cant seem to locate them.

See if you can test the output of the alternator. If it's 14+v then it's OK and one or both of the fusible links are bad

03blackmerc
12-28-2010, 12:36 PM
Finially fixed it! i tested all the fusible links and found that they all had power on either side. so i traced the wire back from the alternator and under the battery box the power wire for the alternator was fused right to the car. i replaced the intire section of wire from the solnoid with a new fusable link and wire. now making 14v again while running. i also pulled out my radio, the fuse in the back was blown i replaced that and thats working again as well. looks like i lucked out this time.

martyo
12-28-2010, 12:43 PM
Finially fixed it! i tested all the fusible links and found that they all had power on either side. so i traced the wire back from the alternator and under the battery box the power wire for the alternator was fused right to the car. i replaced the intire section of wire from the solnoid with a new fusable link and wire. now making 14v again while running. i also pulled out my radio, the fuse in the back was blown i replaced that and thats working again as well. looks like i lucked out this time.

Good news!!!

2,4shofast
12-28-2010, 01:09 PM
That is really good news, wiring is always a PITA to figure out. Glad you figured it out.

prchrman
12-28-2010, 01:14 PM
Finially fixed it! i tested all the fusible links and found that they all had power on either side. so i traced the wire back from the alternator and under the battery box the power wire for the alternator was fused right to the car. i replaced the intire section of wire from the solnoid with a new fusable link and wire. now making 14v again while running. i also pulled out my radio, the fuse in the back was blown i replaced that and thats working again as well. looks like i lucked out this time.


Bet you feel smarter now after finding all that :)

RacerX
12-28-2010, 02:02 PM
You lucked out BIG! You're lucky as hell you didn't toast every damn electronic component! Looks like Napa will be returning all the alternators you blew! :P

03blackmerc
12-30-2010, 07:12 AM
Ha Ha it was advanced auto, and 2 alternators later.