Another Eaton Swap Forum

[jay03merc]

i have read the eaton parts list forum but there is still several questionsi have.any info is greatly appreciated. 1. do i need the factory cobra heat exchanger or is there any aftermarket ones that would work.if so were can i get the plumbing needed for the heat exchanger?2. do i need the specific ford supercar fuel pump or are they any aftermarket pumps that will work? also with the ford super car pump do you still have to have the kb boost a pump?3. which maf sensor is the cheapist best suited for the swap (stock cobra, lightning,or aftermarket)?4. does the mm throttle cable bracket bolt to the supercharger or do i need at least the cobra bracket?5.do i use the mm crank pulley or do we need a different pulley to work with blower pulley?i know i probably will have many other questions.if any one could make a post with some more of the specific instructions on the swap im sure that alot of people would greatly appreciate it. info on the smaller thinks like heat exchanger mounting and plumbing things needed and how to. Thanks, Jay

[RacerX]

Yes, you need a factory HE or can get aftermarket like frozenboost.com has. Plumbing you can get the hoses at your local parts stores. Dual GT pumps, GT with a KB BAP, Dual Focus pumps... Stock plus a BAP if you're not trying to go nuts and get 15psi. One pump plus the BAP is minimum/must. If you change the MAF or sensor, you'll need a tune for that. You can use a MAFia extender on the stock, get a 90mm LAMF and or MAFia extender. The Eaton thread shows how to take the mm throttle bracket and rework it to work on the Eaton. Or you can look for a Cobra bracket. You buy a pulley kit that bolts onto your stock pulley. LFP sells them. The hub bolts to your pulley, new pulley for the sc belt bolts to the hub. This is the main Eaton swap thread: http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=60366

[ImpalaSlayer]

i have read the eaton parts list forum but there is still several questionsi have.any info is greatly appreciated. 1. do i need the factory cobra heat exchanger or is there any aftermarket ones that would work.if so were can i get the plumbing needed for the heat exchanger?2. do i need the specific ford supercar fuel pump or are they any aftermarket pumps that will work? also with the ford super car pump do you still have to have the kb boost a pump?3. which maf sensor is the cheapist best suited for the swap (stock cobra, lightning,or aftermarket)?4. does the mm throttle cable bracket bolt to the supercharger or do i need at least the cobra bracket?5.do i use the mm crank pulley or do we need a different pulley to work with blower pulley?i know i probably will have many other questions.if any one could make a post with some more of the specific instructions on the swap im sure that alot of people would greatly appreciate it. info on the smaller thinks like heat exchanger mounting and plumbing things needed and how to. Thanks, Jay

all of these have been covered in almost any eaton swap thread on here.

1. you can use any heat exchanger you want, measure the space and fine on that fits

2. use the super car pump and a BAP

3. cobra and L mafs are the same, pick one

4.no, you eed the cobra bracket

5.yes you use the stock mm crank pulley and bolt the metco unit it to it. you CANT NOT use a factory cobra blower pully, it will not work with the mm timing cover

this is something you need to have some fab skills for, its not a bolt in deal, some thing you will have to figure out on your own, thats where the price cut comes from. my threads on my swap and Rexs swaps are as close as you get to directions

[RacerX]

3. cobra and L mafs are the same, pick one
Dave! :shake: 80mm and 90mm isn't the same! Silly! :D I think th 93 even had a 70mm!?

[ImpalaSlayer]

Dave! :shake: 80mm and 90mm isn't the same! Silly! :D

if the maf is from an 03-04 cobra or a 2nd gen lightning, they are the same

[RacerX]

if the maf is from an 03-04 cobra or a 2nd gen lightning, they are the same
Not trying to dis you btw! I know and you know, but, these newbies will go right on ebay and buy any cobra or lightning maf! :D Until they've been schooled, they're better off with Ford part numbers!

[bawazir]

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[ImpalaSlayer]

Not trying to dis you btw! I know and you know, but, these newbies will go right on ebay and buy any cobra or lightning maf! :D Until they've been schooled, they're better off with Ford part numbers!

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[RacerX]

:eek: Keep your damn hands away from moving parts!!!!!!!!! OMG! Good to see you again though Bazzlebear! :D PS: Love the Johnny Cash!

[jay03merc]

thanks guys for all the info i do realize there will be some things i will have to figure out i was just trying to info on all the little things. i have mustangs one in which i have done a 408 windsor fuel injection swap. i just dont have much experience with supercharger partsthanks again

[jay03merc]

sorry for asking all the dumb questions i just seen and read the whole poston eaton swap #2 had a lot of great info and pictures. i will search furtheri seen were you had ground down knock sensor bosses but i didnt see if youstill mouted them there or what you done with them. also didnt see anything on coolant tube modification. thanks

[SC Cheesehead]

sorry for asking all the dumb questions i just seen and read the whole poston eaton swap #2 had a lot of great info and pictures. i will search furtheri seen were you had ground down knock sensor bosses but i didnt see if youstill mouted them there or what you done with them. also didnt see anything on coolant tube modification. thanks


IMO, the frozen boost Type 100 heat exchanger is the way to go.
http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=217&products_id=1002&osCsid=a972c0f6b5753dca9da9572 cc1c314f4

As for the coolant tube, can be a PITA unless you're adept in welding thin wall tubing. May I suggest you send either a donor unit or your OEM COT to ImpalaSlayer; he's got a source that does a great job on the mod for around $100. Looks good, and more important, NO LEAKS under pressure.

Don't forget to hook up with gortch for your brackets.

[RacerX]

You can mount the knock sensor(s) on the back of the head. There are some empty tapped holes.

[ImpalaSlayer]

You can mount the knock sensor(s) on the back of the head. There are some empty tapped holes.

just get rid of them, any good tuner will turn them off anyway so they are pointless

[bawazir]

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holy **** your alive, where have you been?


Am here just chilling got me a snake GT500 :), stored for the winter, Need to change my pulley soon, Well i'll post some pics later,,, still miss the 4 door lol,

[LANDY]

Am here just chilling got me a snake 06 GT500 :), stored for the winter, Need to change my pulley soon, Well i'll post some pics later,,, still miss the 4 door lol,
good to see you around man, BTW there is no such thing as an 06 GT500.:lol:

[bawazir]

good to see you around man, BTW there is no such thing as an 06 GT500.:lol:

is it a cobra same as a gt 500 still dealing with my bank to get my credit approved

[LANDY]

bawazir, they didnt make cobras after '04. and GT500 are from '07 and up.

[RacerX]

Steeda edition? :confused:

[bawazir]

bawazir, they didnt make cobras after '04. and GT500 are from '07 and up.

damit i guss i be buying the wrooong car than :lol:

[jay03merc]

can some one give some info on plumbing the heat exhcanger. as in which
hose goes to what location. sounds dumb i figure the lower outlet on pass
side of exchanger prob. goes to inlet of pump and one from pump to pass
side of inlet to intercooler, then one from ds of intercooler back to ds inlet
on exhanger, if im correct. but wondering were to run resevoir tube to
does exchangers have a small nipple at top like a radiator neck has or do
you have to t hose in somewhere.
thanks for info

[SC Cheesehead]

can some one give some info on plumbing the heat exhcanger. as in which
hose goes to what location. sounds dumb i figure the lower outlet on pass
side of exchanger prob. goes to inlet of pump and one from pump to pass
side of inlet to intercooler, then one from ds of intercooler back to ds inlet
on exhanger, if im correct. but wondering were to run resevoir tube to
does exchangers have a small nipple at top like a radiator neck has or do
you have to t hose in somewhere.
thanks for info

PM ImpalaSlayer, he's very knowledgeable in Eaton swaps.

[ImpalaSlayer]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blaster250cr/icrouting.jpg

[SC Cheesehead]

^^^^^^ Wadda guy! ^^^^^

[jay03merc]

great info thanks! your great! i was wondering if everyone posting now is
at work?! im at work and have been reading most of the morning in between work! what an employee i am:banana:

[jay03merc]

another question if i may.do we use the stock alt off the mm. seen a post
says something about having to change out the stock clutched pulley on
alt. is that so? where to get the right pulley

[RacerX]

I'm at work, yet, surrounded by 14 computers. :D Yes, you need to swap out the pulley or I believe it spins too fast and will burn it out. "Alternator Pulley F5AZ-10344-A, Motorcraft GP-712" Google! Most Ford parts places have it.

[RacerX]

These are good reads on the swap to. They do a full cobra cover and dress, but, very informational!
http://www.extremehp.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1390&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=71833&highlight=eaton+swap+parts+lis t

[DOOM]

bawazir, they didnt make cobras after '04. and GT500 are from '07 and up.

So what does that tell you??? :rolleyes:

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[ImpalaSlayer]

another question if i may.do we use the stock alt off the mm. seen a post
says something about having to change out the stock clutched pulley on
alt. is that so? where to get the right pulley


I'm at work, yet, surrounded by 14 computers. :D Yes, you need to swap out the pulley or I believe it spins too fast and will burn it out. "Alternator Pulley F5AZ-10344-A, Motorcraft GP-712" Google! Most Ford parts places have it.

you have to swap it for 2 reasons. the main reason being that IT WONT SPIN backwards

the second, it would definitely hit the timing cover

[RacerX]

you have to swap it for 2 reasons. the main reason being that IT WONT SPIN backwards

the second, it would definitely hit the timing cover
Ahhh! See, I never would have thought of that because I have a HO alt on my mm that's clutchless. Came that way, Springfield pd must have upgraded when they bought it originally. I wonder if mine would bump the cover? Hmmmmm... Thanks Dave! You may have saved me a few bucks!:beer:

[ImpalaSlayer]

Ahhh! See, I never would have thought of that because I have a HO alt on my mm that's clutchless. Came that way, Springfield pd must have upgraded when they bought it originally. I wonder if mine would bump the cover? Hmmmmm... Thanks Dave! You may have saved me a few bucks!:beer:

it shouldnt if the new alt is spaced and mounted the same way.