National Anthem

[Vortex]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

[SC Cheesehead]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

BIG +1 to that!

Just who the h*ll came up with the idea that the National Anthem has to be subject to personal expression every time it's sung?

Oh, and as long as I'm ranting, if you're gonna sing it get the :censor: words right... :mad2:
http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9L7JK3G0%4 0news.ap.org%3E&ps=1016

(official end of rant ;))

[Joe Walsh]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me.

:laugh:

Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him?

I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise.
Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called).
Just sing it straight.
Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

AMEN!

I couldn't agree more!
It seems that our National Anthem has become a:
"Look how many extra syllables, woos and warbles I can put into each word" competition.....:mad2:

JUST SING THE ANTHEM!

Save the 'artistic expression' for your overpriced concerts!

[Bluerauder]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

It used to grind me too that the tune was botched up with all of the ad lib stylizations. Now I would just be happy if they found someone who actually knew some of the words. Very embarrassing..... and it is happening far too frequently. :mad:

I've stood many parades and ceremonies in uniform where the :flag: Star Spangled Banner :flag: brought tears to my eyes. Now those tears are from sheer laughter. :P

[PonyUP]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

I couldn't agree more, it seems like it's an American Idol competetion everytime they sing it which makes me said. Someone with a stellar voice singing the song the way it was written is inspiring. the National Anthem is NOT open for artisitic interpretation. It wasn't written with runs, or to see how long you can hold a note.

And insult to injury, when you concentrate more on doing all that crap and forget the words, your failure is of epic proportions and you should be hung an quartered.

[LIGHTNIN1]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

I totally agree. Have Toby Keith or someone that does not hate this country sing it. Don't have someone sing it that could not sing at a cattle auction.

[SC Cheesehead]

I couldn't agree more, it seems like it's an American Idol competetion everytime they sing it which makes me said. Someone with a stellar voice singing the song the way it was written is inspiring. the National Anthem is NOT open for artisitic interpretation. It wasn't written with runs, or to see how long you can hold a note.

And insult to injury, when you concentrate more on doing all that crap and forget the words, your failure is of epic proportions and you should be hung an quartered.

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but I think she should have been at least stripped nekked and forced to run around the sidelines prior to start of the second quarter... ;)

[Joe Walsh]

I couldn't agree more, it seems like it's an American Idol competetion everytime they sing it which makes me said. Someone with a stellar voice singing the song the way it was written is inspiring. the National Anthem is NOT open for artisitic interpretation. It wasn't written with runs, or to see how long you can hold a note.

And insult to injury, when you concentrate more on doing all that crap and forget the words, your failure is of epic proportions and
you should be hung an quartered.

That's pretty harsh!

In her case....maybe just a public embarassment....

:hmmm:

like hosing her down with water......
cold water.....
and she's in a T-shirt.....
a thin T-shirt.....

:D

[Joe Walsh]

Shoot Rex!
You beat me to it!

Sick minds think alike!......:beer:

[SC Cheesehead]

Shoot Rex!
You beat me to it!

Sick minds think alike!......:beer:

Wuz just thinking the same thing... :D

[PonyUP]

Shoot Rex!
You beat me to it!

Sick minds think alike!......:beer:

You're right, hung and quartered is pretty harsh. But she should be punished. I submit she should have to spend a night with me :lol:

[SC Cheesehead]

You're right, hung and quartered is pretty harsh. But she should be punished. I submit she should have to spend a night with me :lol:

No sense you suffering, too....

[Bluerauder]

.... should be hung an quartered.

I think that the term is "Drawn and Quartered" but I get the drift. ;)


You're right, hung and quartered is pretty harsh. But she should be punished. I submit she should have to spend a night with me :lol:

The folks in the Middle Ages thought so too !!!

"Convicts were fastened to a wooden hurdle and dragged by horse to the place of execution, where they were hanged (almost to the point of death), emasculated, disembowelled, beheaded and quartered (chopped into four pieces). Their remains were often displayed in prominent places across the country, such as London Bridge. For reasons of public decency, women convicted of high treason were instead burnt at the stake."

Yeah, burning is much more decent. ;)

[Joe Walsh]

"hung and quartered"......"drawn and shot".....:dunno:

What's the difference.

[ImpalaSlayer]

i concur, i wanted to punch...

[rayjay]

At the very least an attempt was made to sing it. I foresee the day when... :mad2:

[Joe Walsh]

i concur, i wanted to punch that dumb c*nt right in her PIE HOLE last night

There....fixed it for ya!

[ctrlraven]

i concur, i wanted to punch that...
I'd still hit it and inflect maximum punishment for the error.

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo6zgD254Dg
Jo6zgD254Dg


The correct lyrics:

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

This is what she sang:

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thru the perilous fight,
What so proudly we watched, at the twilight's last gleaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

[duhtroll]

The performers will always use the excuse that they are honoring the country by performing the song with expression to the best of their ability.

Which is BS.

This was a huge debate when Jose Feliciano played a bluesy rendition in 1968 and again when Marvin Gaye embellished it in the early 80s. In the latter case people made it into a racial issue, and it had nothing to do with race. But it opened the door for anyone and everyone to turn the national anthem into their own personal spotlight.

The bottom line is that our National Anthem is supposed to be performed so that the spectators/audience can SING ALONG. When egotistical performers take the opportunity to sing along away from the fans in attendance, they make the performance about themselves and not about our country and are basically saying they they are more important than the song itself.

That goes for Hendrix, too.

As for Ms. Aguilera last night, as soon as I heard the first notes, I skipped forward on the DVR to after the song. I wish I hadn't, as it would have been satisfying to see her embarrass herself while showboating.

[Joe Walsh]

OK...I'm starting to forgive her for her crappy rendition of our National Anthem.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/christina-aguilera-maxim-3.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/Christina_Aguilera-4.jpg

[2,4shofast]

It was pretty disappointing to say the least!

[Blk Mamba]

JMPO, I think that the singing should be screened prior to the event, and the "talent" be made to understand that there will be no "artistic expression", during the performance.

[ctrlraven]

OK...I'm starting to forgive her for her crappy rendition of our National Anthem.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/christina-aguilera-maxim-3.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/Christina_Aguilera-4.jpg
Those are pre-baby pictures.

Noticing anything different? lol
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/Christina2R0602_468x623.jpg

[Joe Walsh]

JMPO, I think that the singing should be screened prior to the event, and the "talent" be made to understand that there will be no "artistic expression", during the performance.

I agree....but that will never happen in today's 'PC' world....:rolleyes:

Apparently
Everyone has the right to make a mess out of our National Anthem...
and a fool of themselves in front of millions.

[Joe Walsh]

Those are pre-baby pictures.

Noticing anything different? lol
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/Christina2R0602_468x623.jpg

She does have a spectacular...errrr....set of lungs!

Her kids must have stretch marks....around their mouths!

[Bluerauder]

IBTL :D

Tic Tock Tic Tock.

[MM2004]

Getting close.

Couple of posts edited accordingly.

Mike.

[guspech750]

OK...I'm starting to forgive her for her crappy rendition of our National Anthem.

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/christina-aguilera-maxim-3.jpg

http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/JoeJWalsh/Christina_Aguilera-4.jpg


Huba huba!!!! I can foregive and foreget.

Sent from my iPhone
Go White Sox

[SID210SA]

Is this the rendition to which yall like?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETrr-XHBjE

I like some of them....the best version in my opinion is the Whitney Houston one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1QmeEdFOSc

Now what ticks me off is when the camera is viewing the crowd and players and you see people with their hats on....players with their skull caps on or helmets on and talking to each other....no respect.....now, granted, if you are not a U.S. citizen then what you should do is stand there with your arms at your side and show some respect to the country in which you live and play in.

my .02 worth.

Mike

[swordfish]

I agree....but that will never happen in today's 'PC' world....:rolleyes:

Apparently
Everyone has the right to make a mess out of our National Anthem...
and a fool of themselves in front of millions.

The best one I can think of that did it right was Faith Hill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJI_rlar68M

[Vortex]

This is more like what I would expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X32ZB5Rgb1c

[LIGHTNIN1]

Is this the rendition to which yall like?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETrr-XHBjE

I like some of them....the best version in my opinion is the Whitney Houston one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1QmeEdFOSc

Now what ticks me off is when the camera is viewing the crowd and players and you see people with their hats on....players with their skull caps on or helmets on and talking to each other....no respect.....now, granted, if you are not a U.S. citizen then what you should do is stand there with your arms at your side and show some respect to the country in which you live and play in.

my .02 worth.

Mike

The Whitney Houston version is my favorite so far. I have it on DVD and I get it out sometime just to listen. Christina would be better selling wallpaper of herself.

[Mr. Man]

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/Christina2R0602_468x623.jpg

When did Christina start to morph into Cindy Lauper?:dunno:

[Joe Walsh]

Judging from the comments under this news article, most people felt that not only did she screw up the lyrics....
she butchered the song with her hyperactive "warbling".

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Christina-Aguilera-flubs-Super-Bowl-national-anthem-020611?GT1=39002

She obviously was too busy showing off her incredible (.....:rolleyes:) "rendition" of our National Anthem to remember the lyrics!

[yjmud]

Jim Cornelison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QswTLBI1zd0&feature=related

[justmelanie]

You're right, hung and quartered is pretty harsh. But she should be punished. I submit she should have to spend a night with me :lol:


THAT is cruel and unusual punishment!!:lol:Just sayin'

[TAKEDOWN]

Just wanted to mention that now it comes to the point where at sporting events on tv when somebody starts to sing the national anthem I listen to the first verse and if its something like "ooo..whoaaa... say can you ho ho see..." (or whatever) it just grinds me. Where was Lee Harvey last night in Dallas when you needed him? I think if you cant sing it normally you should just shut up. Its not a song, soulful or otherwise. Its not to show how much you can "whoa whoa" (or whatever thats called). Just sing it straight. Better yet, dont sing it at all, have a military band or marching band or pipe organ play it with no words.

I agree... The anthem is about the fight for our freedom! It's actually about War itself! Less is more in this case, it should be resounding and yet powerful, not something that should be song as I try to wine and dine that special person for Valentine's Day. OhaHH-o0oHawahawhaahhh, doo whop do whop!

[ctrlraven]

A lot of people are saying she botched it all up so she would get attention. Well she is getting plenty of it now.

I'd give her some extra though..... http://www.mdstreetscene.com/forum/images/smilies/bananahump-slvrathlon.gif

[PonyUP]

THAT is cruel and unusual punishment!!:lol:Just sayin'

I can say that about my evening prowess, but as for you....your bra strap is snapped :beatnik:

[Shaijack]

First Jacksons boob and now this what is the next thing. I did not even watch it this year.

[rayjay]

Can someone please photoshop up those mommy veins :puke:

[alarmguy]

One of my favorites, this one from the 1984 all star game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3qD1jKNYaU

[Mr. Man]

Can someone please photoshop up those mommy veins :puke:
Put the magnifying glass away and they disappear Ray:shake:

[CBT]

If I wanted to watch fat girls killing great songs, I'd watch American Idol.
Hendrix and Dave Mustaine did great versions on guitar. I'd rather hear them play it than someone slaughter it with words.

[boatmangc]

At least she didn't lip sync it like Whitney.

[rayjay]

Put the magnifying glass away and they disappear Ray:shake:

Time for an eye exam Mr Man? Plain as day.

[SC Cheesehead]

This is more like what I would expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X32ZB5Rgb1c

That's what I'm talking about! :2thumbs:

50+ years since I first heard it, and it still sends chills down my back when it's done right.

Jim Cornelison's rendition is spot on, too. :up:

[tbone]

One of my favorites, this one from the 1984 all star game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3qD1jKNYaU


That really was excellent. I also like the way they don't butcher the last line to show off. ie. braaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAa aaaaaaaaave!

[jerrym3]

I've listened to a lot of the renditions, and, while the singing and harmony by some of the singers is great, I just don't agree with them.

Nothing beats the Army band rendition.

Is there any other major country that does this to their national anthem?

It's not a song for American Idol, a Broadway Show, or a nightclub.

It's a song that represents our country, and it should be sung with dignity.

The emphasis should be on the song, not the performer.

Are we two ticks away from putting our national anthem on a Karaoke machine in a bar?

[69428SCJ]

I'm certainly not defending the "personalization" that present-day singers take with the Star Spangled Banner, but I just thought I'd bring to everyone's attention that the melody for the anthem is that of a drinking song. I personally thought that this rendition was horrid as I loathe all the melisma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melisma) that was overdone. Even though Whitney lip synched hers, it was tastefully done.

[Motorhead350]

I have far too much to rant about so I will just say this:

Why is someone so far up in the music industry, yet forgets the words to a song? That means she is doing a bad job.

Cleanest way I can put it.

[SC Cheesehead]

I have far too much to rant about so I will just say this:

Why is someone so far up in the music industry, yet forgets the words to a song? That means she is doing a bad job.

Cleanest way I can put it.

Need to clarify, Dom.

Are you defending or criticizing CA?

[CBT]

She wasn't the first to mess it up, she won't be the last. The difference is, she did it in front of 600 mo-billion people, so it made the front page. I kind of feel sorry for her.

[Murader03]

Along with that, America the Beautiful was also butchered. Just sing them the way they were composed. "PERIOD!"

[LIGHTNIN1]

I think the worst rendition I've heard was Roseanne years ago.Just looking at her was bad enough.

[duhtroll]

I can't stand Roseanne, but I think by singing it (she admitted beforehand she had no business singing it) she was making a statement about everyone ELSE butchering it.

At least she got the words correct...




I think the worst rendition I've heard was Roseanne years ago.Just looking at her was bad enough.

[SC Cheesehead]

I can't stand Roseanne, but I think by singing it (she admitted beforehand she had no business singing it) she was making a statement about everyone ELSE butchering it.

At least she got the words correct...


:lol: So what's that say for C.A.? 0 for 2.... :lol:

[mrjones]

Check out Craig Shoemaker's Hollywood National Anthem. If you're not familiar with his comedy, listen to a couple of his "Lovemaster' skits before listening to the Hollywood National Anthem. It's pretty hilarious, and covers this topic pretty well.

[Motorhead350]

Need to clarify, Dom.

Are you defending or criticizing CA?

I am going against CA. I didn't hear what she did, but I heard about it. It doesn't matter what song a singer is singing, if they forget the words they are a bad worker. The music industry is a industry. It's entertainment, it has performers. CA is a part of it and is an entertainer.

I don't see how anyone with a record deal can screw up this song. Even then, they should have had plenty of time to practice it. Yet she is the one with the record deal and here I sit complaining that I don't. It's just one of those things when you see someone that lacks the skill to fit the job have the job. I know we all see it, I sure have... I have to admit I was that guy when I worked for my father.

So who knows. Maybe they wanted her to screw it up so we would keep talking about her. Look what we are doing now? We are discussing a poor performance (of which the performer has had years of experience with positive feedback) instead of the game itself. This is probably just what they wanted. Seems to happen every few years. First Janet Jackson, now this.

Whatever it is, it'll be forgotten about soon. Water under the bridge. Maybe brought up again next year, but that's it.

Not to stroke my ego, but I did something like this years ago, but didn't screw it up. For high school home coming in 2001 I played the anthem on my electric guitar in front of the whole school Jimmi Hendricks style. Being that 9-11 just happened and I was spelling it out like Jimmi people loved it. I was getting the good word for days. Even bullies that hated me came up to me and said it was the best version they ever heard of that song. SO I know what it can mean to someone to play/sing that song the way it should be done. It's a shame people like CA get the green light and screw it up. I had to play my version so make sure it was okay first then I got the approval.

I know how it's done. I've done it before and did it well. Only took about 10 minutes of editing sheet music (while in math class) and 20 minutes of practice at home. Standing ovation and enemies are now friends. It's simple. You have it or you don't. That night CA wasn't having it.

The next year a new teacher came around and told me not to do it. I cranked the amp and did it anyway for the following home coming and got the electric guitar banned from school. Decent crowd response, but nothing like in 2001.

[SID210SA]

Well we will have another two to critique here pretty soon....the Daytona 500, dont know who is perfoming that one, and the NBA AllStar game.....which will be perfomed by Josh Groban, who is an excelent artist IMHO.

[jerrym3]

Don't know if this is true or not, but I heard an entertainer say that, in a stadium environment, the combination of the sound system delay and the loud speakers can screw up your timing and thinking.

[Bluerauder]

Don't know if this is true or not, but I heard an entertainer say that, in a stadium environment, the combination of the sound system delay and the loud speakers can screw up your timing and thinking.

I don't think it as much a function of sound system delay (which should be infinitesimal in fractions of microseconds) as it one related to the "echo" inside a large stadium or arena. Hearing your own words even a split second later can distract the person and cause them to lose their place if they are not accustomed to the phenomenon.

In dry air at 68*F, the speed of sound is 1126 feet per second. In a stadium, the echo time would be roughly about 1 second (about 600 feet to the far walls and 600 feet back)

[duhtroll]

It can, even while just speaking. I used to do some football announcing while in college - not the game call but other announcements.

It takes a bit of getting used to - you have to ignore what you hear while speaking. The delay was up to approx 3/4 of a second so it can be distracting.


Don't know if this is true or not, but I heard an entertainer say that, in a stadium environment, the combination of the sound system delay and the loud speakers can screw up your timing and thinking.

[SC Cheesehead]

It can, even while just speaking. I used to do some football announcing while in college - not the game call but other announcements.

It takes a bit of getting used to - you have to ignore what you hear while speaking. The delay was up to approx 3/4 of a second so it can be distracting.

True, that.

[bugsyc]

I heard that next year Hanoi Jane was singing:mad2:

[Motorhead350]

Even with the delay wasn't she singing it solo? Like no band was with her or anything? Also I heard she repeated a verse or something like that.

Sometimes super bowl performances aren't even live. Just last summer I was informed The Who wasn't live from last year. The only thing live was Pete's guitar, everything else was recorded live at another time. They say it was because of the sound delay reason and it would be easier to match on TV like that. If that were the case why was the guitar live and everything else recorded? Why would anything be live? If one thing can be live, why not the rest?

[jerrym3]

Even if she was the only "live" participant, she has to be hearing the music before the crowd, otherwise her timing would be way off.

Again not making excuses for her.

I'm not an entertainment professional, but I had to make a speech once in the ballroom of the Plaza in NY City in front of a few hundred of my peers from other corporations (telecommunications managers).

Did not get one bit of sleep the night before, and I insisted that they have a podium in front of me for something to lean on.

Sheer panic.

I can't imagine making a speech or singing the Star Spangled Banner in front of a 100 million person audience worldwide.

[Motorhead350]

It's easy. Earplugs to weed out the delay one would work, ignore it or just pause until the delay catches up with you. The anthem is the only song you could get away with this.

As far as CA she could practice in a studio with a delay and get use to it. It's not anywhere near as hard as it seems.

[PonyUP]

It's easy. Earplugs to weed out the delay one would work, ignore it or just pause until the delay catches up with you. The anthem is the only song you could get away with this.

As far as CA she could practice in a studio with a delay and get use to it. It's not anywhere near as hard as it seems.

Or how about this, just use a monitor. I recommend doing an audio send to earplugs and the issue vanishes.

Besides, Christina Aguilera is too stupid to sing it live, she should have recorded it.

And please, can we end the sensation with the Black Eyed Peas? They're no talent hacks. If they didn't have a computer to downlaod their background, autotune to pitch their voice, they would sound like a cats nails scratching across metal. Oh wait, they already sound like that never mind.

[Joe Walsh]

I don't think it as much a function of sound system delay (which should be infinitesimal in fractions of microseconds) as it one related to the "echo" inside a large stadium or arena. Hearing your own words even a split second later can distract the person and cause them to lose their place if they are not accustomed to the phenomenon.

In dry air at 68*F, the speed of sound is 1126 feet per second. In a stadium, the echo time would be roughly about 1 second (about 600 feet to the far walls and 600 feet back)

So that's why I can't get away with farting in church!?
Plus the hard oak pews...(pun intended)...create loud echos!

[duhtroll]

That is really easy to say, but everyone gets flustered sometimes. When 65,000 (not sure of how many people were there but I am guessing it was at least that many) people in a stadium go from normal noise levels to "silence" (relatively) it is a big change. You can think you are ready for it and practice all you want, but there is no substitute for being in front of that many people.

I am not defending her - she has performed enough to large crowds that it shouldn't have been an issue. I am saying it is much harder than it looks, or being in a studio.


It's easy. Earplugs to weed out the delay one would work, ignore it or just pause until the delay catches up with you. The anthem is the only song you could get away with this.

As far as CA she could practice in a studio with a delay and get use to it. It's not anywhere near as hard as it seems.

[PonyUP]

That is really easy to say, but everyone gets flustered sometimes. When 65,000 (not sure of how many people were there but I am guessing it was at least that many) people in a stadium go from normal noise levels to "silence" (relatively) it is a big change. You can think you are ready for it and practice all you want, but there is no substitute for being in front of that many people.

I am not defending her - she has performed enough to large crowds that it shouldn't have been an issue. I am saying it is much harder than it looks, or being in a studio.

Definitely an enormous amount of pressure, especially considering the Billion watching around the world. And I agree with you, she should be used to playing to large audiences, which can minimize the effect. The difference here is she couldn't get half naked and crawl around like a stripper to distract the people watching like she does in her videos. :lol:

[justmelanie]

Definitely an enormous amount of pressure, especially considering the Billion watching around the world. And I agree with you, she should be used to playing to large audiences, which can minimize the effect. The difference here is she couldn't get half naked and crawl around like a stripper to distract the people watching like she does in her videos. :lol:

Yah, I'm thinking that if she did sing half naked and crawling around like a stripper None of you would have even noticed that she screwed it up!! Y'all are toooooo easy!!!:rolleyes:

[Motorhead350]

I am not defending her - she has performed enough to large crowds that it shouldn't have been an issue. I am saying it is much harder than it looks, or being in a studio.

I completely agree with the first half of this statement. Being harder than it looks... only if you don't know how to keep a tempo. So maybe she needed monitors and a click track? :lol: What is she a drummer? :rofl:

[LIGHTNIN1]

Our Pres uses Teleprompters and flash cards.I would not have blamed her if she did the same. Maybe she should have had green hair to take our minds off it.

[PonyUP]

Yah, I'm thinking that if she did sing half naked and crawling around like a stripper None of you would have even noticed that she screwed it up!! Y'all are toooooo easy!!!:rolleyes:


I freely admit that I am easy, I can be had by a mere suggestion :D

[PonyUP]

Nope .... we would have still noticed. But this thread would have gone in a completely different direction and would have been closed xx posts ago.

+1, all the talk of her vocal chords would be substituted by what we would like to do to those vocals and there would have been a lot of IBTL's

[jerrym3]

I think we may have hit the tipping point.

Even our local newspaper had letters from readers saying basically, enough is enough.

It's our anthem, not a torch, R&B, or soul song.

I still remember (and love) doo wop music. but I don't know if I'd want the Platters or Flamingos doing our anthem like a 50's song.

(Yeah, I'm old. Bad news is I turned 68 last week. Good news is I turned 68 last week.)

[rayjay]

(Yeah, I'm old. Bad news is I turned 68 last week. Good news is I turned 68 last week.)

Well, I'll tell ya, I had times that I had trouble doing construction work on the side with my 69 yr old father inlaw because at 53 I couldn't keep up. Your as old as you feel and that man was in shape. He died 1 year ago at age 70 from coranary disease, but to look at him you would never have known it. RIP Poppie, you are loved and missed.

Sorry for going off track. You are right about the Anthem. Please, sing it correctly, with reverance, or don't bother. The last of my $.02

[CBT]

I like the version they used to play at night before the T.V. stations signed off. You youngsters probably have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

[Bluerauder]

I like the version they used to play at night before the T.V. stations signed off. You youngsters probably have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

Heck, I can remember getting up on Saturday mornings and watching the "test pattern" until programming came on at 6:00 AM. They opened with the Star Spangled Banner too. Then cartoons and kids programming until 12 Noon. :D Anybody remember Gumby, Mr. Wizard, Spin & Marty, and Sky King??

[jerrym3]

I remember all except Gumby.

Spin and Marty?

Haven't heard of them in decades.

[rayjay]

I remember all except Gumby.

Spin and Marty?

Haven't heard of them in decades.

Gumby and Pokey, now that brings back memories of much simpler times...

[CBT]

Gumby and Pokey, now that brings back memories of much simpler times...
What was it like when man went from the stone age to the clay age, uncle ray? :lol: I'm probably going to regret that arn't I....

[rayjay]

What was it like when man went from the stone age to the clay age, uncle ray? :lol: I'm probably going to regret that arn't I....


Just a wee bit before me, ask great uncle Charlie, he knows. :cool:

[jerrym3]

It seems like only yesterday that dad introduced our family to fire.

[rayjay]

It seems like only yesterday that dad introduced our family to fire.

You realize I'm drinking my morning coffee right? At least I missed the key board...

[Blk Mamba]

Martina McBride, just sang the National Anthem at Daytona, and I think it was the best rendition I've heard in a LOONNGG Time.

[Bluerauder]

Martina McBride, just sang the National Anthem at Daytona, and I think it was the best rendition I've heard in a LOONNGG Time.

I agree. It was well done. :2thumbs:

Wonder if the fall out from the Superbowl C.A. rendition had anything to do with it?

[jflave]

I agree. It was well done. :2thumbs:

Wonder if the fall out from the Superbowl C.A. rendition had anything to do with it?
Thats the way it shoud be sung, i enjoyed it. :)

[knine]

How about the Pledge of Allegiance, here's my favorite, by Red Skelton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZBTyTWOZCM

[justmelanie]

How about the Pledge of Allegiance, here's my favorite, by Red Skelton: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZBTyTWOZCM

Very nice!!!

[dakslim]

I happened to catch Huckabee tonight and he had as a guest Ted Nugent. He did his "rendition" of our National Anthem and it sucked!!!!!!

[rayjay]

Very nice!!!

+2 very well said!