Boss 302 or GT500?

[Juice]

I'm torn. If I end up getting a Mudstain, it's going to be one of these two.

Which one would you get? Why?

[a_d_a_m]

Boss 302...

[guspech750]

Which ever is cheaper. That's what I would buy. More Mod money leftover.

[rauder88]

+1 on the Boss 302

[Joe Walsh]

I have always wanted a GT500, especially now that they have an aluminum block.

But now that I've seen the Laguna Seca BOSS 302....:drool:

:hmmm:....I might have to reconsider my "what if" dream car.

[RacerX]

Would the GT500 be a 2011? I would have trouble choosing between both if 2011...

[ctrlraven]

Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you are going to build it up (lots of power) I'd go with the GT500, if you plan on doing lite mods I'd go with the Boss 302.

[Joe Walsh]

Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you are going to build it up (lots of power) I'd go with the GT500, if you plan on doing lite mods I'd go with the Boss 302.

And if you plan on doing any road racing then the choice is obvious.

One of the Ford magazines did a test of the new Coyote 5.0 with a blower vs. the 5.4 GT500 engine.
The S/C 5.0 made very similar power to the S/C 5.4 and it made more power on the top end because it can rev to 7,000+ rpm.

[Jolly Roger]

Can the GT 350 be included of my choices?:)

[ctrlraven]

And if you plan on doing any road racing then the choice is obvious.

One of the Ford magazines did a test of the new Coyote 5.0 with a blower vs. the 5.4 GT500 engine.
The S/C 5.0 made very similar power to the S/C 5.4 and it made more power on the top end because it can rev to 7,000+ rpm.
Yep, though you can find a nice used GT500 for less than a new 5.0 and have money left over to throw mods at it.

[LANDY]

I would take a boss 302 over the GT500 anyday.

[SC Cheesehead]

Mustang Boss 302
5.0L Hi-Po Ti-VCT V-8 Engine
5.0L (302 cu.in)
HP: 444 @ 7,400
TQ: 380 @ 4,500

Shelby GT500
5.4L Supercharged 4V Ti-VCT V-8 Engine
5.4L (330 cu. in)
HP: 550 @ 6,200
TQ: 510 @ 4,250

I'd take the GT500

Mo' powa mo' betta

[freakstatus]

GT500. I know the Boss 302 is all the rage right now, but it's just like the 03/04 Mach 1's. You'll be able to get one for 10 grand in a few years

The GT500 will always be cool and hold its value.

[SC Cheesehead]

GT500. I know the Boss 302 is all the rage right now, but it's just like the 03/04 Mach 1's. You'll be able to get one for 10 grand in a few years

The GT500 will always be cool and hold its value.

^^^^^ True, that. ^^^^^

[ImpalaSlayer]

boss, i dont like shelbys. over priced for a name

[69ranchero351c]

boss, i dont like shelbys. over priced for a name


ditto, i will never buy anything that has shelbys name on it

[2,4shofast]

I would say for light modding go for the Boss, the 500 if you want a numbers monster.

[Ktorres1]

GT-500 doesn't have ti-vct as of yet and would be interesting how its numbers would change with it as well as direct injection. I'd take the gt-500

[05crownsport]

Boss 302 for sure. It is faster around a road course than the Shelby, and its true that the new 302 can make more power with less work done to the engine. Add a supercharger and it will be well into and over 550 HP if that's what you want. Look for articles on this in one of the Mustang magazines. I do believe that the advanced technology of the 5.0 makes it a more powerful contender.

[Juice]

Would the GT500 be a 2011? I would have trouble choosing between both if 2011...

Or 2012, I won't be looking to actually get anything until around September when I get back from deployment.


Depends on what you plan on doing with the car. If you are going to build it up (lots of power) I'd go with the GT500, if you plan on doing lite mods I'd go with the Boss 302.

The idea behind doing this is to have something fun to drive while I throw mod money at the MM. I'd LOVE to supercharge the MM plus whatever else, so I want something to drive while she's down. I also want another 2 door coupe, especially one that gets up and goes.


Can the GT 350 be included of my choices?:)

Not totally out of the question, but I think it's overpriced for what you're getting. I do like the hood though.


GT500. I know the Boss 302 is all the rage right now, but it's just like the 03/04 Mach 1's. You'll be able to get one for 10 grand in a few years

The GT500 will always be cool and hold its value.

Yeah, you're probably right. That Laguna Seca package with the rear seat delete is pretty sexy though. Plus, the black&red color scheme totally makes my shorts tight.



Boss 302 for sure. It is faster around a road course than the Shelby, and its true that the new 302 can make more power with less work done to the engine. Add a supercharger and it will be well into and over 550 HP if that's what you want. Look for articles on this in one of the Mustang magazines. I do believe that the advanced technology of the 5.0 makes it a more powerful contender.

It seems to me with the 5.0 catching up to what the 5.4 can do (even surpassing it by the sound of it), I wonder if Ford will either get rid of the 5.4 in the Mustang line-up entirely? Or overhaul it?

[dohc324ci]

I guess it depends on the purpose?

Purpose built track car

or

Premium Mustang with a SC

[RacerX]

With a GT500, you throw a smaller pulley on, 60lb injectors, etc. :burnout:

[wickedmerc]

I'd take the GT500

Mo' powa mo' betta

+1 What he said!!

[GAMike]

Stripe delete Grey or Blue GT 500 for me.....

[SC Cheesehead]

With a GT500, you throw a smaller pulley on, 60lb injectors, etc. :burnout:

You betcha! As I was saying earlier...
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Mo' powa mo' betta

:burnout:

[Davesvt2000]

If power and 1/4 mile times are your interest, then get the GT500.

If hitting the corners on a road course or just going for spirited back road drives are your interest, then get the Boss 302.

The Shelby loaded with the PP and glass roof will set you back $56,000.

The Boss 302 with Recaros and diff will cost you $43,000. The Laguna Seca will cost you $48,000.

And the Boss will not be the next 03/04 Mach1, that car was nothing more than the shaker hood, seats, and wheels.

The Boss is completely different than a GT, from suspension, seats, wheels, exhaust, dash, Torsion diff, etc.

Disclaimer - See my sig below why I'm so biased :beer:

[Big Black Beast]

If power and 1/4 mile times are your interest, then get the GT500.

If hitting the corners on a road course or just going for spirited back road drives are your interest, then get the Boss 302.

The Shelby loaded with the PP and glass roof will set you back $56,000.

The Boss 302 with Recaros and diff will cost you $43,000. The Laguna Seca will cost you $48,000.

There you go. Get the Boss and take the money left over and use it for the Marauder. Really, I don't think you'd be that dissappointed with a plain ol Mustang GT even. Hmmmm....wish I had to make decisions like yours....:rolleyes:

[LANDY]

i would get a boss 302, put a tvs blower on it then call out the GT500's.

[wht02lightning]

And the Boss will not be the next 03/04 Mach1, that car was nothing more than the shaker hood, seats, and wheels.

The motor was differant. normal GT's getting the 2 Valve and Mach's getting the 4 Valve the 'rauders sporting. Id say that a complete package. The exta horses are a pretty serious thing to leave out

[RacerX]

For that, you could probably find a nice Dodge Viper... :D C'mon haters!:flamer:

Well looky there! ;) http://www.vipertrader.com/details.php?id=21676

[Mr. Man]

Why not get a regular GT? Costs way less than both. Comes with 400+ hp and in a few years there will be so much aftermarket you won't know what to spend all that money you saved on first.:)

[Davesvt2000]

The motor was differant. normal GT's getting the 2 Valve and Mach's getting the 4 Valve the 'rauders sporting. Id say that a complete package. The exta horses are a pretty serious thing to leave out


True, Ford had to do something with the left over 99 - 01 Cobra motors.

Put them in a mustang and call it the Mach1. Put in in a GM and call it a Marauder :flamer:

I'm in no way bashing the Mach1, I'm just saying I think this car (Boss) will hold it's value and be held in higher regard than the 03/04 Mach1. Plus the production of the Boss over a two year program is projected to be half of the production of the two year Mach1 program. 7000 ? vs. 15,000 ?

[Davesvt2000]

Why not get a regular GT? Costs way less than both. Comes with 400+ hp and in a few years there will be so much aftermarket you won't know what to spend all that money you saved on first.:)


I was offered an 11 GT with the Brembo brake package for $34,xxx.

There are some awesome deals out there on mustangs of all models.

[Juice]

For that, you could probably find a nice Dodge Viper... :D C'mon haters!:flamer:

Well looky there! ;) http://www.vipertrader.com/details.php?id=21676

I don't fit comfortably in a Viper.


Why not get a regular GT? Costs way less than both. Comes with 400+ hp and in a few years there will be so much aftermarket you won't know what to spend all that money you saved on first.:)

I hate Mustangs, they are a dime a dozen, which is why I bought the MM instead of a Mustang in the first place.

However, I would like a coupe, and I'd like to stay in the Ford family which limits my options. So, I'd like to either get a limited production model, or the top model (GT500).

I'd be more likely to get the Boss 302 and supercharge it than get a GT500, just because it would make it that much less common. On the other hand, I love the front end and hood of the GT500, plus the bigger motor/charger from the factory is very appealing. I'm having trouble making up my mind. Hell, I might even scrap the whole idea entirely and get something different. It took me nearly a year of car shopping to by the MM, that's just how I do it.

[Ktorres1]

The Boss is a beast ! The coyote is simply more advanced than the 5.4 and id only take the shelby on looks 2011 that is.

[Juice]

Or I'll just scrap the whole Mustang idea, get a 392 Challenger and drop it off at Hennessy for some supercharger action? (sorry DOOM) :o

[SC Cheesehead]

Or I'll just scrap the whole Mustang idea, get a 392 Challenger and drop it off at Hennessy for some supercharger action? (sorry DOOM) :o
http://techbuddha.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/vader-fail.jpg


Blue Oval FTW...

[Joe Walsh]

Or I'll just scrap the whole Mustang idea, get a 392 Challenger and drop it off at Hennessy for some supercharger action? (sorry DOOM) :o

Isn't Hennessy the shop that went out of business because they were raping Viper owners along with some 'shady' business practices???

[SC Cheesehead]

Isn't Hennessy the shop that went out of business because they were raping Viper owners along with some 'shady' business practices???


Getting a Mopar to begin with has all the elements of this anyway...

[Juice]

Blue Oval FTW...

I know, I know... I can't see myself driving anything but Ford. I've had several non-Ford vehicles, but they were beaters. I'll most likely stay blue, but I like to keep my options open. :D

[wickedmerc]

Hmmmm, if I'm looking to throw upwards of $60k at a "cool" car.........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-Ferrari-F355-F1-Spider-Low-Miles-Great-Color-/190508078082?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c5b2a9402

[MrBluGruv]

Isn't Hennessy the shop that went out of business because they were raping Viper owners along with some 'shady' business practices???

Pretty sure Hennessey Performance is still alive and kicking. They also have some wicked packages available, and they aren't too far from me. :D

[SC Cheesehead]

Hmmmm, if I'm looking to throw upwards of $60k at a "cool" car.........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-Ferrari-F355-F1-Spider-Low-Miles-Great-Color-/190508078082?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c5b2a9402


Nah,

Here's a REAL performance vehicle (so I been told):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Phaeton-Phaeton-W12-2004-Phaeton-W12-Platinum-Warranty-Through-12-2013-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27 b97dfda3QQitemZ170615766435QQp tZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

[Juice]

Pretty sure Hennessey Performance is still alive and kicking. They also have some wicked packages available, and they aren't too far from me. :D

Yeah, they are. I ran into Don Goldman at one of the local Chevy dealers when I spotted the 700hp CTS-V Wagon he was driving. We talked a bit and he gave me a Hennessy calendar, it was pretty awesome!

[4rgone]

Just wait until they do the 429 and buy that.

[Lignum]

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/03/02/road-test-2012-ford-mustang-boss-302/

Hey look! This one comes in Hemi Orange!

[Juice]

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/03/02/road-test-2012-ford-mustang-boss-302/

Hey look! This one comes in Hemi Orange!

I saw one of these in person last night, I'm not impressed. I don't see enough difference in this from the regular GT to justify getting one. I'd have to get a Laguna Seca or nothing if I went for the Boss.

[Mr. Man]

how about a '32 Deuce.

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[Fosters]

True, Ford had to do something with the left over 99 - 01 Cobra motors.

Put them in a mustang and call it the Mach1. Put in in a GM and call it a Marauder :flamer:


Good thing they're not 99/01 motors or your theory would actually work... different heads, different cams, different pistons, different crankshafts for the autos, different intakes, and for most of the 99/01s, different blocks too. But other than that, all 03/04 motors are leftover 99/01 cobra motors... :D

As for the boss 302 vs gt500 argument, this should sweeten the pot... factory stock boss 302 with drag radials - and the window sticker:

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And a slightly modded GT; blower, exhaust, race gas, converter and a few other goodies (stock motor, trans, etc):

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I want that tranny for the marauder... :drool:

[Juice]

how about a '32 Deuce.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSsRfDjzpoy plB5wKgb138xBABhsjfbZUrRfTTRwu d6DU44zNo

Absolutely.

[Vortex]

http://www.insideline.com/ford/mustang/2011/2011-ford-mustang-track-shoot-out.html

Looks like Inside Line prefers the Boss over the Cobra.

[Bluerauder]

The Boss 302 with Recaros and diff will cost you $43,000. The Laguna Seca will cost you $48,000.


Get the Boss and take the money left over and use it for the Marauder.

Good luck with getting one at the $48.5K MSRP sticker price. I just saw one that had a $51K Mark-Up. :eek: Taxes, tags, prep, etc ---- Probably closer to $104K Out-the-Door.

[Davesvt2000]

Good luck with getting one at the $48.5K MSRP sticker price. I just saw one that had a $51K Mark-Up. :eek: Taxes, tags, prep, etc ---- Probably closer to $104K Out-the-Door.


Four people in Cali just bought Laguna Secas, with the highest markup being $5k.

They can be found for close to sticker, just takes a LOT of searching.

[vtwoodsman]

I'd prefer a nice used Pontiac G8 sedan. Excellent rig with plenty of mod potential.

[slickster]

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[Confsniper]

Boss and you better keep it, that care will be worth more in the end.

[jsignorelli]

Well, since I have one of each (original 1970 Boss 302, and 1969 Shelby GT-500), I am biased. I have recently driven both of the new generations at SAAC-36 in Virginia. If you can get & afford the 2012 Boss 302 Laguna Seca.......buy it. I promise you you will be scared for your life every time you step on the gas pedal.
The 2012 Shelby GT-500 is a robust factory racer. The Boss legauna is an insane, factory made, Saturn-5 Moon rocket.