My 04 SB project at Zacks

[BODYMAN]

My SB I felt was just a little to slow so figured to help that. Here is a link to the job Zack is the man doing this. After seeing the progress as of now tells me the right guy is on the job:up:

Here is the link to the job at chicagosvt
http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1057970&posted=1#post1057970

[SILVERSURFER03]

Looking like a great start

[swordfish]

Zack is the right man for the job.:beer: If he wasn't so far away he would be doing a few things for me.

[ImpalaSlayer]

good **** Todd

[ctrlraven]

I'm so jealous. lol

[CBT]

Zack is the right man for the job.:beer: If he wasn't so far away he would be doing a few things for me.

Your engine bay is the ****znitz, for anyone that hasn't seen it in person. :beer:

[BODYMAN]

Zack is the right man for the job.:beer: If he wasn't so far away he would be doing a few things for me.

Yea I do feel fortunate he is only 5 hrs away.

[BODYMAN]

good **** Todd

Thanks Dave and thanks for that "T"

[LANDY]

Sweet, that should be one heck of a beast when it comes out, Kurgan is tunning it right?

[TAKEDOWN]

Bad to the Bone!!!!

[Mr. Man]

Does Zack have his own shop or does he do all this stuff on the side?

[guspech750]

That is going to be an incredible machine!!
Sent from my iPhone
Go White Sox!!!

[knine]

Hmmmmmmmmm, nice pics. I was there when Zack took the replacement out of the trunk :lol:

P.S., ChicagoSVT now has a new member :party:

[Motorhead350]

Once again this proves who the MVP is. Why is he still banned? :shake:

[BODYMAN]

Sweet, that should be one heck of a beast when it comes out, Kurgan is tunning it right?

You are correct Landy. Kurgan

[BODYMAN]

That is going to be an incredible machine!!
Sent from my iPhone
Go White Sox!!!

When it comes back from Zack I will be installing metco upper,lwr cntrl arms in the rear

[LANDY]

You are correct Landy. Kurgan that's right man for the job. You should be shooting for 600rwhp and a big grin on your face:beer:

[BODYMAN]

that's right man for the job. You should be shooting for 600rwhp and a big grin on your face:beer:

Zack thinks lower & he is probably right Landy due to it being a lower comp motor. I think a 03 with Termi with this set up is around 620? thats thru a T-56. MY thinking is like Zacks Iam gonna lose some thru the AOD Tranny. I cant wait to see what it makes. I definetly like suprises though

[sailsmen]

Mustangs and FF did a compare of low vs high compression on an S/C the high developed ~4% more HP.

[-Matt-]

Lol i love his cooling mod.... Zack is the father of my babies

[BODYMAN]

Mustangs and FF did a compare of low vs high compression on an S/C the high developed ~4% more HP.

Thats interesting, Ill have to find that article.

[LANDY]

I honestly think if you don't get to the 600 mark you will be really close.

[Motorhead350]

Lol i love his cooling mod.... Zack is the father of my babies

Hahahahahaha

[Mike]

Zack's doing a GREAT job......keep the pic's coming :banana:

[BODYMAN]

I honestly think if you don't get to the 600 mark you will be really close.

I think youre pretty darn right,but I figured on the conservative side so no disappointments. Cant wait to see

[1stMerc]

Way to go Todd. Can't wait to see Zack's handy work in person.
Think you will be the only Whippled MM in our area.

[FordNut]

Been wanting to see how one of those baby Whipples perform and fit.

[BODYMAN]

Way to go Todd. Can't wait to see Zack's handy work in person.
Think you will be the only Whippled MM in our area.

How have you been Waymon? Did that P-Charger get installed yet? Iam ready for a get together in STL whenever. Have you seen the latest pics he posted its looking pretty dam sweet.

[BODYMAN]

Been wanting to see how one of those baby Whipples perform and fit.

Brian Iam sure it will do good for me But nothing compared to youres! The latest pics Zack posted are so sweet.

[FordNut]

I think it's going to be a great setup. It should be operating in the region it was designed to be most efficient. Mine is operating at the bottom of it's intended range.

[justbob]

Looks great Todd! What's your fuel set up?

[1stMerc]

How have you been Waymon? Did that P-Charger get installed yet? Iam ready for a get together in STL whenever. Have you seen the latest pics he posted its looking pretty dam sweet.

Been doing pretty good.
Just waiting for the weather and work to cooperate.

Suppose to be rainy and chilly this weekend and the following weekend i'm on call at work.

Waiting for tomorrows install pics.

[BODYMAN]

I think it's going to be a great setup. It should be operating in the region it was designed to be most efficient. Mine is operating at the bottom of it's intended range.

Yeah the 2.3 w/Alluminator is a good fit. I would think youre 3.4 would be a better fit for youre set up considering 5.3 ltre. I really wanted to stay with the stock hood to,although he was metioning insulator may have to go and small portion of the webbing. Not sure if anyone else is running a 2.3 also?

[FordNut]

I believe you're the first with a 2.3 Whipple. Pretty sure the Trilogy twin screw is a 2.3 too.

[Michael]

The trilogy twin is 2.3 liters, and is the old lyshom design, whipple has reengineered their new blowers.

What will be your complete combo be? Running E85? It's good stuff.:burnout:

[BODYMAN]

Looks great Todd! What's your fuel set up?

Bob, Twin GT pumps upgraded fuel lines modified oe fuel rails 80lb injectors was tossing around E-85 but decided for now just 93. I can see though wanting to change over sometime

[BODYMAN]

I believe you're the first with a 2.3 Whipple. Pretty sure the Trilogy twin screw is a 2.3 too.

Yep youre correct Brian Trilogy is a 2.3. Like Michael stated it is the orig Lysholm. Whipple redesigned a few things

[Shermanator]

The brass nipple cooling mod is a great improvement, it works. Chris has been doing that mod on Trilogy MM 4.6's for 2 years now.

[merc]

I believe you're the first with a 2.3 Whipple. Pretty sure the Trilogy twin screw is a 2.3 too.

Far from being the first with a Whipple 2.3. and the head cooling modification that Zack is receiving praise about was created by Chris Vining and deployed on 4 marauders 2 years ago.

[BODYMAN]

Far from being the first with a Whipple 2.3. and the head cooling modification that Zack is receiving praise about was created by Chris Vining and deployed on 4 marauders 2 years ago.

Why did Chris not tell others about it then? With Zack when he does something he shares it with the whole community Thats why the praises. As for the Whipple wasnt trying to say heay look at me Iam the 1st Brian & I were talking Trilogy twin screw vs Whipple 2.3

[musclemerc]

What's the point in doing a mod if you dont want to share the "how to" with the rest of the MM Brotherhood?


Answer: Your not doing it to help the Brotherhood your doing it for PROFIT!

[merc]

Why did Chris not tell others about it then? With Zack when he does something he shares it with the whole community Thats why the praises. As for the Whipple wasnt trying to say heay look at me Iam the 1st Brian & I were talking Trilogy twin screw vs Whipple 2.3

I can't speak for Chris but there are risks and disadvantages to every modification. Not every mod is listed or shared on this site, that's reality. We all contribute what we can, but some people are trying to support this site and others are trying to run a business.

I fully understand your comment about Trilogy Twin Screw vs Whipple 2.3. Last year I spent a couple months researching the differences, not just the housings. It was a interesting conversation that I shared with Brian, Zack, Marty, Chris, and others. Finally a decision was made, but after additional R&D and lessoned learned we are going to make some modifications to the original design.

In the last year I have been happy with the OEM design. For the most part the car has been trouble free. When you start monkeying with the car it could be a mixed bag of pleasure. You are just starting down the path of performance with your Marauder. Projects like yours are a real inspiration to the community. Boost is good :)

[merc]

What's the point in doing a mod if you dont want to share the "how to" with the rest of the MM Brotherhood?


Answer: Your not doing it to help the Brotherhood your doing it for PROFIT!

Helping someone with a OEM repair or a minor modification is one thing. On the other hand when someone's power train fails due to a un-tested mod, who is responsible for the failure. It's not always cut and dry. That's the filp side of the coin.

[BODYMAN]

I can't speak for Chris but there are risks and disadvantages to every modification. Not every mod is listed or shared on this site, that's reality. We all contribute what we can, but some people are trying to support this site and others are trying to run a business.

I fully understand your comment about Trilogy Twin Screw vs Whipple 2.3. Last year I spent a couple months researching the differences, not just the housings. It was a interesting conversation that I shared with Brian, Zack, Marty, Chris, and others. Finally a decision was made, but after additional R&D and lessoned learned we are going to make some modifications to the original design.

In the last year I have been happy with the OEM design. For the most part the car has been trouble free. When you start monkeying with the car it could be a mixed bag of pleasure. You are just starting down the path of performance with your Marauder. Projects like yours are a real inspiration to the community. Boost is good :)


No doubt Merc it will have minor bugs to work out. But Iam VERY confident with Zacks knowledge being applied to it if anything it will be very minor if at all. and yes youre correct I was just stating between the 2 TS's

[BODYMAN]

What's the point in doing a mod if you dont want to share the "how to" with the rest of the MM Brotherhood?


Answer: Your not doing it to help the Brotherhood your doing it for PROFIT!

Iam with you on this Travis. As with youreself youre a biz to U & others the same have to make profit but this is a very easy thing & some of us get more pleasure out of helping other members out.;)

[merc]

No doubt Merc it will have minor bugs to work out. But Iam VERY confident with Zacks knowledge being applied to it if anything it will be very minor if at all. and yes youre correct I was just stating between the 2 TS's

I have a watchful eye on your project with a ear to learning something new. It's good to see another Whipple 2.3 conversion. Good luck with your project and keep us posted. :burnout:

[Blown3.8]

What's the point in doing a mod if you dont want to share the "how to" with the rest of the MM Brotherhood?


Answer: Your not doing it to help the Brotherhood your doing it for PROFIT!

Yup doing it all for myself.:rolleyes: That must be why I didn't even do it to my fathers car yet. And you are the ones tring to sell the things. Getting in a pissin match with DR over whats better. When I did the mod to a members car it was because I didn't like the method that was out there (grinding the intake). And was looking for a cheaper alternative. I'm sure a few eye's saw my work. I didn't tell anyone cause it was an unproven method. I didn't think it would fail, cause god knows theres plenty of freeze plugs already on the car.


Iam with you on this Travis. As with youreself youre a biz to U & others the same have to make profit but this is a very easy thing & some of us get more pleasure out of helping other members out.;)

Yup some people love helping others out. I must not be one of them.:confused: I have enough on my plate than to just sit around on the computer and log everything I do. If someone asks a question and I know the answer, and view it before it gets answered I will reply. Everyone else can blog away.

I got no beef with anyone on this board. And could care less if Zack saw what I did and decided to copy it and sell it for that matter. Just letting you all know its been on a couple cars for 2 or more years with no problems that I know of. But I in no way tried to hide it from anyone. Some people also like exclusivity tho. Ain't that why we do different things?

My first thought process on the issue was to cut up a COT, but my welder and skills wasn't the best so I got this boogered up mess. It was still a good idea and would work but the brass plug and nipples is alot cheaper and easier. Here is a pic of my nipples fittings on a motor.

Man I hate typing.

[BODYMAN]

Chris, My statement wasnt ment to offend anyone It is great you designed one before I was simply pointing out That Zack has taken the time on my car to point out the simplicity of the mod & taking the time to write it up for others to share. I have seen youre work VERY nice! being here since 02 like many others Zack has been very helpful to many of us in the past, As the same you to always ready to answer a question or help, along with many others.

[FordNut]

Far from being the first with a Whipple 2.3. and the head cooling modification that Zack is receiving praise about was created by Chris Vining and deployed on 4 marauders 2 years ago.

Sorry, I forgot about your 2.3 conversion. Gonna put it in your new car? I'd love to see you running again.

[Blown3.8]

Chris, My statement wasnt ment to offend anyone It is great you designed one before I was simply pointing out That Zack has taken the time on my car to point out the simplicity of the mod & taking the time to write it up for others to share. I have seen youre work VERY nice! being here since 02 like many others Zack has been very helpful to many of us in the past, As the same you to always ready to answer a question or help, along with many others.

Lookin forward to see how your project turns out. Not sure where your HP gonna turn out at, but Merc made 600 at 20psi with a single blade TB.

At least my thought process on the brass nipples wasn't way off the wall.:beer: Yes I have found Zacks tech posts helpful to me too.:cool:

[Michael]

Brass nipples and getting blown, can it get much better?:burnout:

[massacre]

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[merc]

Sorry, I forgot about your 2.3 conversion. Gonna put it in your new car? I'd love to see you running again.

Hopefully everything will be better then soon. I will be putting the training wheels back on then off to the track we go in 2012.

[BODYMAN]

^^^^^^^
Bwahahahahaha
why did I suspect this all along?

And some here hit the nail on the head with "the praises".
Some have the need for interweb people to tell them what a great job they did, and how their poop smells like ice cream.

Others do not need this interweb notoriety, preferring instead to remain a subtle pimp.


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5615/stuart2.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/stuart2.jpg/)

You just had to make a comment on this thread YEAH YOU leave the subject alone BLAAAAAH stay out of the thread I ve been waiting for this.

[BODYMAN]

Lookin forward to see how your project turns out. Not sure where your HP gonna turn out at, but Merc made 600 at 20psi with a single blade TB.

At least my thought process on the brass nipples wasn't way off the wall.:beer: Yes I have found Zacks tech posts helpful to me too.:cool:

I'll be curious to Iam thinking maybe high 5's Chris I guess time will tell.

[BODYMAN]

I have a watchful eye on your project with a ear to learning something new. It's good to see another Whipple 2.3 conversion. Good luck with your project and keep us posted. :burnout:

I plan on staying close in touch with you Merc like you said were gonna be able to pick stuff up from each others!!:beer:

[musclemerc]

I can say for sure Zack has been working on this mod for month's now. He and I have discussed it in detail since Evenflow stopped production of their kit. He had no information about Chris doing this mod in the past. Zack started this mod with just a regular freezeplug that was brazed, it did'nt work very well, so instead of quitting he went to the next material, brass and instead of brazing he tried plumber's solder. This time it worked flawless, then he decided to solder top and bottom of the barb connector to ensure it wont leak. He even designed the tool to drive the freezeplug into the head without damaging the barb fitting's.

These fitting's were not created to say "look at me" they were made out of a necessity to have a cooling mod that was functional, affordable, and NOT purchased from the OTHER VENDOR here.

[/QUOTE=massacre;1034356]^^^^^^^
Bwahahahahaha
why did I suspect this all along?

And some here hit the nail on the head with "the praises".
Some have the need for interweb people to tell them what a great job they did, and how their poop smells like ice cream.

Others do not need this interweb notoriety, preferring instead to remain a subtle pimp.


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5615/stuart2.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/stuart2.jpg/)[/QUOTE]

[babbage]

I can say for sure Zack has been working on this mod for month's now. He and I have discussed it in detail since Evenflow stopped production of their kit. He had no information about Chris doing this mod in the past. Zack started this mod with just a regular freezeplug that was brazed, it did'nt work very well, so instead of quitting he went to the next material, brass and instead of brazing he tried plumber's solder. This time it worked flawless, then he decided to solder top and bottom of the barb connector to ensure it wont leak. He even designed the tool to drive the freezeplug into the head without damaging the barb fitting's.

These fitting's were not created to say "look at me" they were made out of a necessity to have a cooling mod that was functional, affordable, and NOT purchased from the OTHER VENDOR here.

[/QUOTE=massacre;1034356]^^^^^^^
Bwahahahahaha
why did I suspect this all along?

And some here hit the nail on the head with "the praises".
Some have the need for interweb people to tell them what a great job they did, and how their poop smells like ice cream.

Others do not need this interweb notoriety, preferring instead to remain a subtle pimp.


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5615/stuart2.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/stuart2.jpg/)

Months of work for a $5 hack job? Boy he sure did downplay it like it was nothing.. Must be that needy praise deal.

I'd rather have the billet machined piece with an O-ring that DR will continue to sell -with Even Flows permission- in my brandy new aluminator. But that's just me.

[ImpalaSlayer]

un****ing believable

[BODYMAN]

Months of work for a $5 hack job? Boy he sure did downplay it like it was nothing.. Must be that needy praise deal.

I'd rather have the billet machined piece with an O-ring that DR will continue to sell -with Even Flows permission- in my brandy new aluminator. But that's just me.

Well its not youre car, you haters just kill me with youre BS!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU WANT TO BRING NEGATIVETY STAY THE F OUT youre the ones looking like fools. :puke::lol:

[musclemerc]

Months of work for a $5 hack job? Boy he sure did downplay it like it was nothing.. Must be that needy praise deal.

I'd rather have the billet machined piece with an O-ring that DR will continue to sell -with Even Flows permission- in my brandy new aluminator. But that's just me.

Hack job!!!

Well since your throwing you hat in this conversation I have to ask.

What have you made with your own hand's that was Marauder specific and actually worked?

Have you tightened any EGR nuts lately? ;)

Zack and his idea's are way past anything you have done, past and present. I'm not trying to be ugly to you Babb's, just dont throw stones unless you can do a better job yourself. :shake:

[Mac-MerC]

get'em
:popcorn:.......:popcorn:

[massacre]

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[CBT]

This man is happy about his project and is being beat up because of who is doing it and what parts he is using to do it. I would think the only people qualified to complain would be someone who had the same parts made by the same person and they failed, and you were complaining as a warning. Let the guy enjoy his engine build, jeez. Last time I checked this was a build friendly site not a teardown friendly site.

[dakslim]

Hmmmmmmmmm, nice pics. I was there when Zack took the replacement out of the trunk :lol:

P.S., ChicagoSVT now has a new member :party:

Hmmm, who could that be??????

[Blown3.8]

The thing is you can't even see it when the wiper cowl is on. And if you do see it, it just looks like a few extra hoses, in a mess of hose and wires that is already there.

No real need to be pretty.

[Baaad GN]

Here we go again, the Z's name get's mentioned and the same old people jump in with some BS! Not surprizing at all!!!

[massacre]

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[babbage]

I'm not trying to be ugly to you Babb's, just dont throw stones unless you can do a better job yourself. :shake:

You started throwing the stones when you mentioned THE OTHER VENDOR, and how Even Flow doesn't make them anymore -- and you know Reinhart DOES.

Nothing against this build - I hope it comes out fine. But when you start slamming DR I will stick up for him and his products.


-Nuff said.

[CBT]

The "who's doing it" is BANNED from here.
He's got his own "website", and everyone here seems to be on that site, anyways.

Why even bring it here?
I think you know the answer to that, it's to start another pissing contest with D.R., which this site needs like a hole in the head.

My gosh, you're right, what was I thinking by feeling bad for this guy posting pictures of his build just to have people destroy his post because of personal opinions. :shake:

[massacre]

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[jstevens]

You guys are too much. I like Zack even more now.

Now if I could find that popcorn button.

[massacre]

Done with this thread,
done with this site.

I got my wiper box, that's all I needed anyway haha.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

Dude, right in the thread title.

If the thread title were "My build" it wouldn't be an issue.

Anyone here who brings up the name is asking for trouble. The kid is banned from here, and it would appear the the people who run this site decided that for some odd, reason, um.....oh yeah, ah, which reason would that be?
Hmmm....personal opinions, oh yeah, that's right. Not yours, not mine, but theirs.

Why don't you just give it up and ignore any post relating to him? You plain and simply sound like you're booty hurt at all that he is able to accomplish himself. :shake:

[BODYMAN]

Done with this thread,
done with this site.

I got my wiper box, that's all I needed anyway haha.

????????????

[massacre]

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[BODYMAN]

Well you can think what you want.
We've been through this before, I've made myself very clear why I have a problem with Zack.
It has nothing to do with his "accomplishments".

If this kid copped a squat, and took a duke on the ground, everyone here would proclaim it NOT human feces, but nectar of the gods, and would eat it.

ARE you saying you would eat feces????:lol: I thought you said youre done with this thread?

[BODYMAN]

The thing is you can't even see it when the wiper cowl is on. And if you do see it, it just looks like a few extra hoses, in a mess of hose and wires that is already there.

No real need to be pretty.

Very true Chris :beatnik:

[LANDY]

Ok back to a badass build talk.

[massacre]

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[prchrman]

Awesome thread. Good luck with your project.

[BODYMAN]

Ok back to a badass build talk.

Thank you Landy! I do not want to go back and forth with folks I have befriended over the last 9 YR's

Back to the car Landy correction on tuning it is gonna be tuned by Tim Barth at Norms garage

[BODYMAN]

I take back everything I said in this thread.


Congratulations OP.

I won't be getting into these discussions any more.

+1 on that Massacre

Thanks prchman

[Blown3.8]

I take back everything I said in this thread.


Congratulations OP.

I won't be getting into these discussions any more.
Can I still be a subtle pimp? I wanna be a pimp of some type.:D

[BODYMAN]

Can I still be a subtle pimp? I wanna be a pimp of some type.:D

UR killing me Chris

[MMBLUE]

This is by far the most entertaining thread on MM.net :popcorn::popcorn: can't wait to see the outcome.

[TooManyFords]

A++++++++++ thread! Will read again!

[Smalldogg/03mm]

Very,very nice BODYMAN !! Do u think it will b ready gor the Easter car show in forest park(St. Louis to help others understand)..

[BODYMAN]

Very,very nice BODYMAN !! Do u think it will b ready gor the Easter car show in forest park(St. Louis to help others understand)..

No Easter wont happen. It is schedule for dyno on the 4th at Norms garage w/Tim Barth

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[FordNut]

No Easter wont happen. It is schedule for dyno on the 4th at Norms garage w/Tim Barth

Good choice. Tim was my tuner until he left the ATL area.

[BODYMAN]

Good choice. Tim was my tuner until he left the ATL area.

Thats what Ive been told. I think I remember you metioning him in a older thread before he moved north.

[justbob]

How did we go from Whipple fed aluminators to eating Zackzillian godlike nectar poop? I did indeed get quite a chuckle. :) Boy are you ever gonna enjoy this car!

[tbone]

Mr. Whipple, PLEASE don't squeeze the Charmin!

[BODYMAN]

How did we go from Whipple fed aluminators to eating Zackzillian godlike nectar poop? I did indeed get quite a chuckle. :) Boy are you ever gonna enjoy this car!

Yea it was all pretty amuzing Bob, I plan on enjoying it I think it is gonna be a more enjoyable driver then the Vortechs I have owned as you know very good power thru all rpm's I cant wait!:beer:

[Smalldogg/03mm]

Hey bodyman tell him u need ur car for Easter so u can when some trophy for ur hard work an for the mm community... :) o no it's going to be a real head turner..

There not many SC mm here n the show me, so that will b an I opener...

[BODYMAN]

Wont happen Antoine waiting on some small stuff and the dyno probably wont be till 1st part of May! Beleive me I would love to have it just wont push him to get it done, Know what I mean!!

[BODYMAN]

If anyone hasnt checked out the progress lately check it out the car is gonna be sick its all coming together VERY nice. http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1057970&posted=1#post1057970

[Smalldogg/03mm]

Let me test drive it.. Come on, pleeease....!!!!!:)

[BODYMAN]

Let me test drive it.. Come on, pleeease....!!!!!:)

Not a problem. Heck U could drive both the 03 & 04 both are blown;)

[flyin_hawaiin]

wish i could have tuned it when i was in chitown but i just had too many cars

[Motorhead350]

wish i could have tuned it when i was in chitown but i just had too many cars

When you coming back? There's no fast cars down south. ;)

J/K man. I wish you the very best in your new location. Hope you and the family are doing well.

[BODYMAN]

wish i could have tuned it when i was in chitown but i just had too many cars

That was the orig plan:) Just got car to Zack to late. I heard you were slammed busy while there.

[flyin_hawaiin]

ill be back at the end of june for round 2

[justbob]

This time I don't want to miss you Bob! I still need some adjustments. :alone:

[ImpalaSlayer]

just sighned up over there

[BODYMAN]

ill be back at the end of june for round 2

When in June the last week?

[BODYMAN]

just sighned up over there

What the heck took you so long Dave?;)

[ImpalaSlayer]

i actually thought i was over there but i guess not

[BUCKWHEAT]

I just read thru this entire thread...are any of the critical reviewers ready to set up a run against Todd's S/B? Todd has worked hard on the entire package to be sure the whole result is greater than the sum of the parts. While not everyone likes each part, let's see what the end result is.
The St Louis drag strip is closed, so we may have to take the result up to Dom-land to show ya-all some southern hospitality.
Personally, I have had to spend money just to stay in the same ballpark with Todd' car. Maybe in July we can have some track time to publish results. The fun is in the doing, not so much the talking, IMHO.

[musclemerc]

Call'em out they wont come. I know for a fact one of them can barely turn a wrench, his verbal assault about the parts used for this project is laughable at best.

[BODYMAN]

I just read thru this entire thread...are any of the critical reviewers ready to set up a run against Todd's S/B? Todd has worked hard on the entire package to be sure the whole result is greater than the sum of the parts. While not everyone likes each part, let's see what the end result is.
The St Louis drag strip is closed, so we may have to take the result up to Dom-land to show ya-all some southern hospitality.
Personally, I have had to spend money just to stay in the same ballpark with Todd' car. Maybe in July we can have some track time to publish results. The fun is in the doing, not so much the talking, IMHO.

Hey John whats happening? You got 1st dibs on driving it lol you 100% correct picking parts and chosing all the goodies has been the funnest part. Got good news on the track front looks like Montgomery city is were the new MAR is gonna be & if thats the case we can make my place the meeting spot 10-15 min away.:beer: Thanks for the words..

U & I both know Travis