Nitrous question

[Motorhead350]

Can nitrous always be on?

For example: I heard on some cars their nitrous setup doesn't have the nitrous kick in until WOT. Like the engage button is on the gas petal or something. If a car is set up that way, do you actually need to turn the bottle on and off so to say?

Being that is doesn't go in the engine until you give it WOT would it be any harm to just "leave it on" all the time?

I know it's a silly question, but I wanna know.

[DTUB]

Can nitrous always be on?

For example: I heard on some cars their nitrous setup doesn't have the nitrous kick in until WOT. Like the engage button is on the gas petal or something. If a car is set up that way, do you actually need to turn the bottle on and off so to say?

Being that is doesn't go in the engine until you give it WOT would it be any harm to just "leave it on" all the time?

I know it's a silly question, but I wanna know.If I remember right you want to keep the bottle closed when not in use cause it allways seems to find a way to leak out over time.

[jstevens]

Exactly. Alternative Auto did mine. WOT switch or staged release for really heavy loads. It is recommended that you leave bottle closed when not in use due to leakage. You can also get an electronic opener but don't know if those are reliable.

[Joe Walsh]

Dom + Nitrous = :eek:

(Dom use the money that you are contemplating spending on the nitrous kit and pay off your tickets.)

[Pat]

What they say ^^^^^^^^^^^.

When I first got my ZEX (wet) system, I left the bottle turned on but it would leak out after a period of time.

My nitrous computer is wired to the throttle position sensor and it's activated when WOT voltage is achieved. I also have an electronic Window Box that gates the WOT signal to engine RPM, this is selectable.

So what I did, with my street tires,was determine the RPM where my car hooks up (traction) and set the nitrous to fire at that point. About 3200 RPM. If you have slicks or drag radials then it would of course be different. That way I don't overpower the tires. I was using a 100 shot then. The nitrous system took about a second and a half off my ET's, from 14.5 to 13 with my crappy driving.

Now that I'm supercharged the nitrous is only a 50 shot and used to cool the air charge from the Paxton. Don't have any updated ET's to share. Track closed, opened, closed, now open, hardware problems, etc.........

Regards,

[RacerX]

Dom, you need to widen those rims and get some sticky hooves cause you won't go anywhere on the street with N20 added.

N2O is a pain in the arse and there are just sooooo many things that can go wrong. I'd get your blower ported and a single blade tb and intake plenum. Better IC for lower IAT temps. There's lots of safer ways to gain more and not have to worry about too much timing or a drop in fuel pressure to blow your engine.

[CBT]

Dom, you need to widen those rims and get some sticky hooves cause you won't go anywhere on the street with N20 added.

N2O is a pain in the arse and there are just sooooo many things that can go wrong. I'd get your blower ported and a single blade tb and intake plenum. Better IC for lower IAT temps. There's lots of safer ways to gain more and not have to worry about too much timing or a drop in fuel pressure to blow your engine.

You can port a non roots style ? ?

[RacerX]

You can port a non roots style ? ?
Oh damn! I keep thinking Dom has the Eaton for some reason! :D
So many SCs... I need a damn checklist! :rolleyes: Well, I see another blown engine in the future...



Actually... YES! I can port his supercharger, it'll be slower and much safer!!! :D

[CBT]

Oh damn! I keep thinking Dom has the Eaton for some reason! :D
So many SCs... I need a damn checklist! :rolleyes:

It's called getting old, and there are 2 sure signs of it. Memory loss and something else I can't remember right now.

[Bigdogjim]

It's called getting old, and there are 2 sure signs of it. Memory loss and something else I can't remember right now.

The other thing is where you left the car keys:P

[Bigdogjim]

Dom + Nitrous = :eek:

(Dom use the money that you are contemplating spending on the nitrous kit and pay off your tickets.)

Or put it away to help the new living space:P

[RacerX]

or put it away to help prevent little doms:p
Fixed it!!! :d

[DOOM]

DOM + :nos: =
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/d17a3d34.jpg

[rayjay]

DOM + :nos: =
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad47/DOOMIE/d17a3d34.jpg

+1, You're gonna break it Dominick!

[Joe Walsh]

+1, You're gonna break it again Dominick!

There....fixed it for ya!

:beer:

[DOOM]

+1, You're gonna break it Dominick!

That's what she said! :eek:

[Motorhead350]

I was just asking. I have no plans to even use spray.

When I need financial advice I will ask for it.

Having power and breaking parts is soooooo worth it. A Marauder as a garage queen and N.A. should be against the law. You guys don't know what you are missing!

[Joe Walsh]

I was just asking. I have no plans to even use spray.

When I need financial advice I will ask for it.

Having power and breaking parts is soooooo worth it. A Marauder as a garage queen and N.A. should be against the law. You guys don't know what you are missing!

And a beat to piss, ragged out, constantly broken S/C Marauder is cool too!

IMHO.....:D

[RacerX]

I have no plans to even use spray.
Why is it even I am left speachless with your threads? Then you post something serious and complain when you get f'd with. There are lots of forums out there dedicated to N2O. Your local bookstore or even library will have good books on this.

Here, you need:
A kit: fuel/N2O solenoids, relays, wire, fuel rail adapter, injector nozzle (wet) with jets, bottle, bottle nut, bottle brackets, switches, fuse and fuse holder, braided ss lines, micro activation switch (garbage).
Extras (for safe motoring):
Fuel Pressure Safety Switch
AFR/Lean shutoff switch
Window switch (has TPS built in)
Bottle warmer
Gauges (one on tank, one in car-electric)
Remote bottle opener

[Motorhead350]

And a beat to piss, ragged out, constantly broken S/C Marauder is cool too!

IMHO.....:D

Mines had something called an exciting life, yours has low miles and you were really ticked when it got hit. Not because of the damage, but because you were worried about the value going down. Might as well enjoy it while you have it, you don't seem to if you ask me. To each their own.


Why is it even I am left speachless with your threads? Then you post something serious and complain when you get f'd with. There are lots of forums out there dedicated to N2O. Your local bookstore or even library will have good books on this.



Actually you aren't speechless being that you responded. I wanted the answer quickly so I posted here.

The problem with people like you on this board is this: IF Dom posts a question this means he wants to do it.

That's wrong. Sometimes I just wanna know something and have no plans to do it. Yet you and others will be d1cks about it and post a response like yours. If you have no answer to my question then don't post. Simple as that.

A book has what? Information. What's in a library? Books. What does this site have? Information. This is my source for information.

[RacerX]

Hey num-num. Look above. I answered your question @ 4:09 and at 4:16, you flamed... :P

[Motorhead350]

Hey num-num. Look above. I answered your question @ 4:09 and at 4:16, you flamed... :P

I don't burn.

[jstevens]

Dom,

If you do it make sure you install a bottle heater. Don't let'em scare you. I sprayed a 100shot and hit a flat 13.00. Used to even hit it alittle in rush hour.

That was fun.

[Motorhead350]

hahahha sweet!

[RacerX]

I don't burn.
You flamed me silly...


Dom, If you do it make sure you install a bottle heater. Don't let'em scare you. I sprayed a 100shot and hit a flat 13.00. Used to even hit it alittle in rush hour. That was fun.
Tis in my shortlist^.

[Motorhead350]

Whatever. Let's enjoy our cars. It's probably me anyway.

[RacerX]

Honestly, if you were to do like a 50shot, it would add a lot of power just by cooling the intake charge down quite a bit. Cooler, dense charge + more fuel... winner, winner, chicken dinner... :D

[rayjay]

Ok, now my interest is tweaked. This stuff is illegal in NYS on the street, but it is easy not to get caught if you use your head. What would be a "safe shot" for on the street use? Just for S&Gs, not racing.

[RacerX]

Isn't that silly? Most states/counties have laws on the books about having N2O, but, it's ok to have a 67mm TT, etc. on the street. 50 to 75 shot. That way, the tune doesn't need too drastic a timing change so you could run the same tune with or without N2O. A 50 shot alone can give you up around 75rwtq alone. Great for shock and awe off the line. :beer:

[FormulaMarauder]

Ok, now my interest is tweaked. This stuff is illegal in NYS on the street, but it is easy not to get caught if you use your head. What would be a "safe shot" for on the street use? Just for S&Gs, not racing.

The reason for the use of it being unlawful isnt because it is a power adder. It is because it is a highly flammable and combustable substance.
Unless you are licensed to carry said substance on public roads, it becomes unlawful. You need a placard stating the material on your car, and you have to be licensed to transport it. You can have an empty bottle and setup, just not a loaded tank. The track is a different story because you are on private property where motor vehicle statutes do not apply and AHRA or NHRA rules do.

Hope this helps.

[rayjay]

The reason for the use of it being unlawful isnt because it is a power adder. It is because it is a highly flammable and combustable substance.
Unless you are licensed to carry said substance on public roads, it becomes unlawful. You need a placard stating the material on your car, and you have to be licensed to transport it. You can have an empty bottle and setup, just not a loaded tank. The track is a different story because you are on private property where motor vehicle statutes do not apply and AHRA or NHRA rules do.

Hope this helps.

Thanks, I was aware of those rules about needing to be placarded.

I was curious as to what a safe shot for screwing around on the street would be, before engine damage occured. Not for street racing. It seems a 50 shot would do the trick if I so desired. :cool4:

[jstevens]

Wow, didn't know it was illegal in some states. And I too used it for s&g's not street racing.

Heck, everyone I see thinks I just drive a slow old persons car. hahah until they hear the whine.

[rayjay]

Wow, didn't know it was illegal in some states. And I too used it for s&g's not street racing.

Heck, everyone I see thinks I just drive a slow old persons car. hahah until they hear the whine.

Its like driving with a filled propane cylinder for your BBQ is technically illegal too, but enforcing it would be almost impossible and not worth the hassle.

[jstevens]

Wait a minute, I had a blow off tube or some other safety tube thing in the trunk.
Doesn't that make it safe?

[yjmud]

no2 is not flammable only in the movies it is
no2 is a oxidizer it makes flames very hot and is the reason it makes more power

[jstevens]

Yeah, but its a lot of fun though.

[burtreynolds]

I have a window switch, but it does not work currently. Being the Street Rods are in town and everyone (and their brother) was out i got tempted and just switched it on running WOT. Only ran it above 3k(no puddling issue) and its fun.

I am running an NX big solenoid wet kit with 100 shot (125 crank hp/100 wheel hp is the general consensus), Ztune with 3 degrees timing pulled, 91/94 octane mix and for tonight ONLY no window switch. Example of how it ran? 6.0 GTO saw taillights, Lost by about one carlength to a GNX swapped 69 firebird, Ran even with a bolt on Mach 1 and taught a mean sounding T-Bucket/302 know how to spell Marauder. Bottle was on 700 psi through all runs. Need to get it filled.

"All runs were done on a closed course in Mexico in 1967 and was all computer generated."

Honestly, I cant wait to see what the 11.2:1 comp motor we have sitting will do with a 200 shot. Its just awesome stuff until the bottle runs out!

[burtreynolds]

It is because it is a highly flammable and combustable substance.

It is not Flammable, it releases an extra molecule of oxygen into the flamefront as well as the evaporation process of the Nitrous Oxide liquid when exposed to ambient air supercools the intake charge. This cooling prevents detonation while "forcing" an oxygen molecule into the flame. Nitrous Oxide in and of itself is not flamable but is basically the same premise of blowing into a camp fire.

The reason why its illegal is because:
A) Its use on the street is usually for Illegal Reasons(speeding, excessive acceleration, street racing)

B) Medical Grade Nitrous Oxide released in the drivers compartment can intoxicate a driver, Non Medical Grade Nitrous Oxide has Sulfur Dioxide added to it, which will make you VERY sick and induce all kinds of side effects. Either form will distract you from driving and could on paper cause an accident.

C)It is a compressed gas cylinder which could in essence be compromised and send shrapnel in an accident. This is highly unlikely due to a blow-out safety disc in the valve of the bottle but still could happen.

Three reasons its illegal. Probably more, but these are the most logical.

[TooManyFords]

The reason for the use of it being unlawful isnt because it is a power adder. It is because it is a highly flammable and combustable substance.

This part is not true. It does, however, enhance other flammable and combustible substances like gasoline. Alone, N2O does not burn.

And having read the entire thread, I see I was treed... :D