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ctrlraven
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/next-corvette-will-be-powered-by-small--high-revving-turbo-v-8.html



Anxious to attract the sort of high-performance buyers increasingly drawn to European sports cars from the likes of Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini, General Motors is planning some major changes for the next-generation Chevrolet Corvette – starting with a high-revving, small-displacement powertrain, that will substitute for the big V-8s traditionally found under the hood of the Chevy two-seater.

GM has approved the use of a very European-style V-8 that will be only slightly larger than 3 liters in displacement. The engine will be an overhead-cam, rather than traditional overhead-valve design, using a dry sump oil system that’s particularly well suited to high-performance road courses rather than straight-line acceleration. The engine is expected to feature a narrow 80.5 mm bore and a long stroke, more like a Ferrari or Lamborghini powertrain than the approach used for traditional Motor City metal.

A very senior GM executive also confirmed that the new engine will be turbocharged, which will help yield a broad torque curve and maximum performance under a variety of driving conditions. The engine is expected to deliver in excess of 400 horsepower, which means a specific output in the range of 125 horsepower per liter. That’s the sort of number that would help the next-generation Vette stack up well against the likes of a Porsche 911 or Lamborghini Gallardo.

The engine is likely to be extremely high-revving, perhaps climbing to a near-Formula One-class 10,000 RPMs, suggested one source involved in the project.

The revelation tracks in line with a recent comment by General Motors’ North American President Mark Reuss, who recently promised that the so-called C7 Corvette, due to market in less than two years, will be “completely different” from the very American sports cars that have come before it. Since its launch in 1953, Corvette has been governed by the philosophy, “there’s no replacement for displacement.”

While Reuss and other senior executives have declined to discuss plans for the next Corvette publicly, several well-placed sources have given TheDetroitBureau.com a good sense of what’s to come. The small V-8 underscores what one of those insiders says is the desire to “target a very different sort of buyer for the next Corvette. Let’s face it, the current customer is getting old.” But without making significant changes, that source acknowledged, younger sports car fans will continue to be “conquested” by more modern, high-tech imports.

Significantly, Corvette won’t abandon its more classic powertrain roots entirely. There will be several different types of engines offered for the C7, including a more classic, big-block OHV V-8 designed to appeal to traditionalists.

In fact, some of the design cues of the new car will be borrowed from early generations. There have even been rumors of the C7 going with the split window of the very collectible 1963 Corvette, though TheDetroitBureau.com has not been able to confirm that that particular detail has been given the go.

Meanwhile, expect the interior to be much more modern than the current car’s, which GM’s global design chief Ed Welburn admits “is a disappointment.” The styling boss, a long-time Corvette fan himself, says he is personally overseeing the development of the C7 interior and promises it will be “absolutely world-class.”

Adopting a mid-engine layout, rather than the long-running front-engine design, is considered a strong possibility, though it would be a significant engineering shift for GM. Nonetheless, sources say that wouldn’t be entirely out of line, as the Corvette has often served as the technological test bed for the maker.

GM adopted the then-radical approach of using a fiberglass body when the original 1953 Corvette was launched. The sports car has introduced plenty of other features over the years, including the MagneRide suspension, which uses a magnetically controlled fluid to continuously vary suspension settings to match road conditions and driving behavior.

When migrating from the fifth-generation Corvette to today’s C6 model, GM trimmed weight and brought the sports car’s overall size down to something closer to that of a current Porsche 911. Anticipate further cuts in mass for the upcoming remake of Chevy’s halo car.

GM is investing $131 million in the Bowling Green, Kentucky plant that produces the Corvette to prepare for the C7 launch.

The use of the new small-displacement V-8 is likely to have some knock-on effects at GM, said one source. As with current Corvette powertrain technology, the high-tech engine will find its way into the Cadillac line-up, it appears, where it would help that brand’s V-Series evolve into a more sophisticated offering, rather than the brute-force line-up it is today.

The switch to a smaller, turbocharged V-8 isn’t exclusive to GM, incidentally. Ford made the move with its big F-Series pickup for 2011, offering a downsized EcoBoost twin-turbo V-6 — which delivers the same sort of towing power as the F-150′s biggest V-8, while yielding significant fuel economy improvements.

Krytin
06-03-2011, 03:39 PM
I understand the concept and it will work but, ther really is no replacement for displacement!

I guess I'm just too old! LOL

yjmud
06-03-2011, 04:00 PM
good luck
I see
FAIL in it's future

Ozark Marauder
06-04-2011, 08:46 AM
Instead of developing a screaming high reving(which means high maintenance)complicated turbo motor they failed to address the main problem with the current line up..TRACTION. They should not touch the current powerplants one bit and instead offer an AWD system as well as a Dual clutch transmission like the F458 and GTR use. The dual clutch transmission and AWD is able to take a 3900LBS 530 HP GTR to 60 MPH in 2.9 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 11.2@123MPH. Can you imagine what the ZR1 with 3250LBS and 638HP/605LB would do with Dual clutch and AWD. We're talking Veyron level 0-60 2.5 range I would bet. GM has done great with the Vette. What 7.0L engine in a sports car gets 28MPG in 6th gear like the ZO6 and with a decent tire and good air can go 128MPH and low 11's in the 1/4 mile...all for 70 grand. I think they are going in the wrong direction here. The problem is the traction not the engines or the sound. A ZR1 at WOT makes the kids cry in the neighborhood. It's that insane when the baffles open...............Or buy FORD, a Super Snake comes to mind............

guspech750
06-04-2011, 09:01 AM
good luck
I see
FAIL in it's future



I agree........FAIL!!!

The simplicity, mpg, emisions, and the power levels with GM's LS motors is amazing.

I agree on them doing something for better traction. Why be like everybody else with small displacement, complicated hi-reving turboed engines.

Crap. Just junk the supercharger and crapy hood on the ZR1 and add twin turbos and what ever is needed for better traction.


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RF Overlord
06-04-2011, 09:32 AM
I see FAIL in it's futureI hate to say so, but I agree.

Every time they've touched the 'vette since the '90s, it's gotten worse. While it may in fact be a great road car, it's just gotten more and more ugly. In its present form it's WAY too wide for its length...while the now-visible headlights do NOTHING to improve the looks.

I also agree with Ozark Marauder's comments; the only reason European cars use complicated high-revving engines is because their engines have always been much smaller than American muscle and HAD to be complicated and high-revving to make any kind of power. That doesn't automatically make them better.

Unfortunately, since most younger buyers have been brainwashed into thinking that cars with tiny motors that sound like weed-whackers from Hell are "da' bomb", Chevrolet now thinks that to appeal to them it has to prostitute itself and ruin an icon.

Mr. Man
06-05-2011, 10:04 AM
If I wanted a super high revving, light weight Supercar for Corvette coin I'd buy a used Lambo or Ferrari. I think they should start worrying about the kids with the 4banger fartcan mentality on the C10 or later versions.
What GM and every other car maker should be trying to figure out is how to get the generally older affluent car owner who buys expensive toys an easier on the torso way to get in and out of these machines.:lol:

MOTOWN
06-05-2011, 11:43 AM
funny they said the same thing about the grandnational! i whipped on plenty mustangs with that turbo six

Baaad GN
06-05-2011, 12:21 PM
Yep and the (old) V6 Grand National is still whipping the S--t out of the Mustang! :-(

Mr. Man
06-05-2011, 08:24 PM
Funny they said the same thing about the Grand National! I whipped on plenty a Mustang with that turbo six.
Don't get us naysayers confused with the Corvette won't be fast anymore crowd. I'm sure Chevy will make it plenty fast but unlike your GN I presume Chevy believes it will still be selling Corvettes for many generations. Perhaps they have a crystal ball and what they envision is the wave of the future but it won't be the future in my garage.:)

GAMike
06-05-2011, 08:56 PM
This is probably a byproduct/condition from the Govt. Motors bailout debacle......

Any motor config can be a gas guzzler these days:burnout:

ctrlraven
06-06-2011, 07:55 AM
What most people didn't catch in the article is.....



Significantly, Corvette won’t abandon its more classic powertrain roots entirely. There will be several different types of engines offered for the C7, including a more classic, big-block OHV V-8 designed to appeal to traditionalists.

They are not doing away with the OHV V8 altogether, just adding an another engine which might be offered on different trim levels are one specific model like the ZO6 or ZR-1.

Joe Walsh
06-06-2011, 08:38 AM
Super high revving, small displacement engine in a Corvette....just when every other manufacturer is upping their engine's cubic inch displacements.
(Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, etc. have been increasing their engine sizes for years.)
Leave that 'dentist drill' engine for the next Acura NSX.....:puke:

Dumb idea...but what else would you expect from Chevy?

guspech750
06-06-2011, 08:45 AM
What most people didn't catch in the article is.....



They are not doing away with the OHV V8 altogether, just adding an another engine which might be offered on different trim levels are one specific model like the ZO6 or ZR-1.

No. I caught it. All I'm saying is the Corvette doesn't need such a complicated turboed engine. Remember the "exotic" DOHC 32v ZR-1 from the 90's? Look how well that caught on. Granted it was very expensive at the time but I bet if GM would have put in a larger OHV V-8 in the 1990's ZR-1, the cost would have been lower and would have sold a lot more.

There's no need for GM to fix what's not broken.

But to each there own.


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CBT
06-06-2011, 08:47 AM
They can put a 3 stroke Craftsman gas grill weedwhacker engine in them for all i care as long as when you drop the hammer you get what you expect from a Corvette. :burn:

Joe Walsh
06-06-2011, 08:53 AM
They can put a 3 stroke Craftsman gas grill weedwhacker engine in them for all i care as long as you get what you expect from a Corvette. :burn:

You mean a heavily accessorized, every external trim piece chromed, old white haired fart behind the wheel, puttering around at 30 mph Corvette?

CBT
06-06-2011, 09:04 AM
You mean a heavily accessorized, every external trim piece chromed, old white haired fart behind the wheel, puttering around at 30 mph Corvette?
HEY! :mad2:I'm an old white haired fart but I don't go that slow in mine! Hell, the speedometer has been busted in mine since I got it, I just go a little faster than everyone else in normal traffic and as fast as i damn well please the rest of the time. :D

RF Overlord
06-06-2011, 10:00 AM
They can put a 3 stroke Craftsman gas grill weedwhacker engine in them for all i care as long as when you drop the hammer you get what you expect from a Corvette. :burn:There's just something sacrilegious about a Corvette that goes "BWEE-E-E-E-E-E-E-E!" instead of "WHA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A!"