View Full Version : Federal Gov't Sends SWAT To Collect Student Loan
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 06:22 AM
STOCKTON, CA - Kenneth Wright does not have a criminal record and he had no reason to believe a S.W.A.T team would be breaking down his door at 6 a.m. on Tuesday.
"I look out of my window and I see 15 police officers," Wright said.
Wright came downstairs in his boxer shorts as a S.W.A.T team barged through his front door. Wright said an officer grabbed him by the neck and led him outside on his front lawn.
"He had his knee on my back and I had no idea why they were there," Wright said.
According to Wright, officers also woke his three young children ages 3, 7, and 11 and put them in a Stockton police patrol car with him. Officers then searched his house.
As it turned out, the person law enforcement was looking for was not there - Wright's estranged wife.
"They put me in handcuffs in that hot patrol car for six hours, traumatizing my kids," Wright said.
Wright said he later went to the mayor and Stockton Police Department, but the City of Stockton had nothing to do with Wright's search warrant.
The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans.
"They busted down my door for this," Wright said. "It wasn't even me."
According to the Department of Education's Office of the Inspector General, the case can't be discussed publicly until it is closed, but a spokesperson did confirm that the department did issue the search warrant at Wright's home.
The Office of the Inspector General has a law enforcement branch of federal agents that carry out search warrants and investigations.
Stockton Police Department said it was asked by federal agents to provide one officer and one patrol car just for a police presence when carrying out the search warrant.
Stockton police did not participate in breaking Wright's door, handcuffing him, or searching his home.
"All I want is an apology for me and my kids and for them to get me a new door," Wright said.
News10/KXTV
http://www.news10.net/news/article/141072/2/Dept-of-Education-breaks-down-Stockton-mans-door
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 06:24 AM
All those who support Tyranny please post up and justify the unbridled Gov't power!
When you have 1 Gov't worker for every 6 Private sector workers and Gov't is spending $40,250 per private sector worker your freedom is being drained of all life.
All this over a student loan! Sounds like the Sheriff of Nottingham is back from the dead!:mad2:
Motorhead350
06-08-2011, 06:35 AM
Student Loan is what they said. I wonder what the real reason was.
Haggis
06-08-2011, 06:38 AM
Tresspassing, illegal search and seizure. I'm moving to Ruby Ridge.
No knock warrants are a bunch of ********, what if he had defended his home and children with a weapon? I guess he'd be dead because of a legal loan that he didn't even take out.
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 07:00 AM
It is all being done for your safety! You are guilty until proven innocent, hence the hand cuffs in the portable jail.
There are 4,000 Criminal Laws in the Federal Code. A person born today will have over 80,000 new laws passed in their life time. In the eyes of Gov't everything is illegal. Gov't selectively chooses who will be "free" and who will be prosecuted.
It is now more efficient for Gov't to tell us what to do instead of what not to do.
Welcome to the Animal Farm where all animals are equal and some animals are more equal than others.
California, figures.....
The California state Senate voted 28-8 Wednesday to exempt itself from the pointless gun-control laws that apply to the rest of the populace. Legislators apparently think they alone are worthy to pack heat on the streets for personal protection, and the masses ought to wait until the police arrive.
The whole article....
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/6/one-law-for-us-another-for-you/
LIGHTNIN1
06-08-2011, 07:18 AM
Shut down 90% of all government and you will still have too much. Instead it keeps getting bigger and out of control. Too much incompetence going on here.
This home owner was shot 60 times....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html
slickster
06-08-2011, 07:45 AM
Go find ur wife. Give her to police if it's a dumb reason you get paid. If it's a good reason ur a hero
Bluerauder
06-08-2011, 07:49 AM
There is much, much more to this story .....
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 07:59 AM
Ruby Ridge do a search.
MrBluGruv
06-08-2011, 08:04 AM
Sucks when the people that enforce the rules can make the rules too...
RacerX
06-08-2011, 08:10 AM
Ahhhh... I wondered how Obama would try and make up for the deficit... Typical. I bet all the investigation and personal added up to more than the loans are valued at. :shake:
GAMike
06-08-2011, 08:28 AM
http://www.ajc.com/video?bcpid=97471435001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAFAsZ1c~,8MkVRv W0DmauKT3uAriKKf2yHzTPz5MP&bclid=1716449804&bctid=981560018001
This is the Georgia State Patrol vid of a traffic stop of ATL Braves Pitcher Derrek Lowe...... In GA if you refuse a breathalizer your lic. is under auto-suspension for I believe 6 mos. or 1 yr.
In GA refusing it is what every attorney says you should do....... Drinking or no..... Don't know if I agree (don't know how precise these are, and if false readings have occured in the past). I do know, that trying to intimidate through verbal profanity is conduct that officers would not accept here in GA and therefor should not use on an innocent till proven guilty in a court of law citizen.
I appreciate "good police" and good police work. I don't think this case would have been dropped if the rest of the video followed the narrative described...... If they were racing, they both would have at least got tix for that..... The flip side, is that maybe the police were on the lookout for this kind of activity due to recent events or complaints. It would be nice to know if this was a normal patrol, or a mission oriented shift for the GSP.
If this were you or me vs. a Major League pitcher with $$$ for a top lawyer on retainer, do you think the soliciter would have thrown the case out?
Maybe they all got a reserved box @ Ted Turner Stadium to make it go away?
More Q's than A's here..... All I know is that gung ho ready to knock down doors without situational awareness police is what we don't need..... If a fed agency asks for help, someone needs to supply the "check and balance" before the "resource".......
TAKEDOWN
06-08-2011, 08:56 AM
I'm sure there's more to the story, well at least that's what I hope! If that's the case it seems we take better care of our inmates... JeezZz!
rayjay
06-08-2011, 08:57 AM
http://www.ajc.com/video?bcpid=97471435001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAFAsZ1c~,8MkVRv W0DmauKT3uAriKKf2yHzTPz5MP&bclid=1716449804&bctid=981560018001
This is the Georgia State Patrol vid of a traffic stop of ATL Braves Pitcher Derrek Lowe...... In GA if you refuse a breathalizer your lic. is under auto-suspension for I believe 6 mos. or 1 yr.
In GA refusing it is what every attorney says you should do....... Drinking or no..... Don't know if I agree (don't know how precise these are, and if false readings have occured in the past). I do know, that trying to intimidate through verbal profanity is conduct that officers would not accept here in GA and therefor should not use on an innocent till proven guilty in a court of law citizen.
I appreciate "good police" and good police work. I don't think this case would have been dropped if the rest of the video followed the narrative described...... If they were racing, they both would have at least got tix for that..... The flip side, is that maybe the police were on the lookout for this kind of activity due to recent events or complaints. It would be nice to know if this was a normal patrol, or a mission oriented shift for the GSP.
If this were you or me vs. a Major League pitcher with $$$ for a top lawyer on retainer, do you think the soliciter would have thrown the case out?
Maybe they all got a reserved box @ Ted Turner Stadium to make it go away?
More Q's than A's here..... All I know is that gung ho ready to knock down doors without situational awareness police is what we don't need..... If a fed agency asks for help, someone needs to supply the "check and balance" before the "resource".......
NYS is the same. At the time you accept the "privilage" of a drivers license you sign a form that you will submit to a chemical test of your breath/blood for drugs/alcohol when probable cause exists that you are impaired by same or after a MVA involving physical injury. Any lawyer worth his salt in NYS advises his client to take the test, unless you have a felony DWI conviction under your belt already. NYS DMV gives back your license when they feel like it after a revocation, not in the 6-12 months specified. The idea is to keep the client driving. It makes life very difficult if you have no license here in upstate. We have virtually no public transit outside the cities. If you are not impaired there is no reason to refuse the test. For that matter, if the officer did his job as trained, he doesn't even need the test. Its merely evidence. The DWI arrest is made in the field, prior to a chemical test in most instances.
As for the reason this thread started. ???????? for a defaulted student loan? Something just isn't right and why would you need a no knock search warrant for that in the 1st place? What would they be looking for? Keep in mind that a judge of competent jurisdiction must issue the warrant, not the dept of education, thats total BS. Something is just plain wrong here. Warrants are not a fishing expedition as most people think. You have to be very specific on what you are looking for and how you know its there. Especially in a court that the Federal 9th Circus Court of Appeals may have jurisdiction over. ?????????????????????????????? ???
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 09:14 AM
I'm sure there's more to the story, well at least that's what I hope! If that's the case it seems we take better care of our inmates... JeezZz!
"The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans."
Hopefully there is more to the story. At this point in our Nation unfortunately either way I will not be surprised.
Bluerauder
06-08-2011, 09:19 AM
"The U.S. Department of Education issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans."
Hopefully there is more to the story. At this point in our Nation unfortunately either way I will not be surprised.
That ^^^^^ struck me as odd too. I didn't know the Dept of Education had search warrant authority. I thought that was the judges and magistrates job.
rayjay
06-08-2011, 09:31 AM
That ^^^^^ struck me as odd too. I didn't know the Dept of Education had search warrant authority. I thought that was the judges and magistrates job.
Ding! Ding! Ding! we have winner.....
I'm still having trouble trying to think of what on Earth you could legally borrow that allows S.W.A.T. to retrieve it if you don't give it back when you are suppose to. People better start turning in those old library books. It's only a matter of time before Department of Homeland Security will be through your front door and up your ass with a card file looking for them.
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 10:51 AM
When the "Anarchist Cook Book" came out the book stores required you to register when you purchased it.
The EPA has conducted armed raids based on tips from "ex employees" detaining everyone, allowing no one to leave or enter, not even their atty. Everyone is then "interviewed" before they are allowed to leave. They declare it all a crime scene including the people.
I know of firms this has happened to and both the EPA and US Atty spoke at an industry seminar verifying this is their procedure. The basis "a crime has taken place and we must preserve the evidence, protect you and our personnel".
RacerX
06-08-2011, 11:41 AM
I'm still having trouble trying to think of what on Earth you could legally borrow that allows S.W.A.T. to retrieve it if you don't give it back when you are suppose to. People better start turning in those old library books. It's only a matter of time before Department of Homeland Security will be through your front door and up your ass with a card file looking for them.
Like I said:
Ahhhh... I wondered how Obama would try and make up for the deficit... Typical. I bet all the investigation and personal added up to more than the loans are valued at. :shake:
SOCIALISM! Coming to a town near you!!!
Vortex
06-08-2011, 12:45 PM
There has to be more to this story than delinquent student loans.
rayjay
06-08-2011, 06:24 PM
When the "Anarchist Cook Book" came out the book stores required you to register when you purchased it.
The EPA has conducted armed raids based on tips from "ex employees" detaining everyone, allowing no one to leave or enter, not even their atty. Everyone is then "interviewed" before they are allowed to leave. They declare it all a crime scene including the people.
I know of firms this has happened to and both the EPA and US Atty spoke at an industry seminar verifying this is their procedure. The basis "a crime has taken place and we must preserve the evidence, protect you and our personnel".
I believe it would come under exogent (sp) circumstances, where if the law enforcement agency does not act the evidence, fruits of the crime, victims, ect, may dissappear. Again, you need to have your ducks all lined up and be able to articulate the specific circumstance(s) in the appropriate court of law. Now, some of this may have changed due to 9/11 legislation, but to the best of my knowledge the 4th Amendment still exists and must be abided by. At least it still did last August when I retired.
I believe it would come under exogent (sp) circumstances, where if the law enforcement agency does not act the evidence, fruits of the crime, victims, ect, may dissappear. Again, you need to have your ducks all lined up and be able to articulate the specific circumstance(s) in the appropriate court of law. Now, some of this may have changed due to 9/11 legislation, but to the best of my knowledge the 4th Amendment still exists and must be abided by. At least it still did last August when I retired.
If he wasn't pissed at his ex-wife I bet he is now!! :lol:
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 07:55 PM
I believe it would come under exogent (sp) circumstances, where if the law enforcement agency does not act the evidence, fruits of the crime, victims, ect, may dissappear. Again, you need to have your ducks all lined up and be able to articulate the specific circumstance(s) in the appropriate court of law. Now, some of this may have changed due to 9/11 legislation, but to the best of my knowledge the 4th Amendment still exists and must be abided by. At least it still did last August when I retired.
Except the "detentions" and you are only allowed to leave after you have been "interviewed". You are told if you call your attorney you will be charged with obstruction of justice. Attorneys have been told if you talk to your client you will also be charged with obstruction. In these cases there was no on going crime, no imminent threat to public safety, merely tips from fired employees.
Gross abuse of power and clearly intimidation for what? No one was being harmed.
sailsmen
06-08-2011, 07:59 PM
There has to be more to this story than delinquent student loans.
I hope there is but I will not be surpirsed if there is not.
kernie
06-08-2011, 08:19 PM
Like I said:
SOCIALISM! Coming to a town near you!!!
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dohc324ci
06-08-2011, 08:27 PM
Wow sad to say this is my home town! One of the most economically depressed cities in the country, they top the misery index yearly and now the "All American City" is known for "student loan gate"...lol
Spectragod
06-09-2011, 09:40 AM
No knock warrants are a bunch of ********, what if he had defended his home and children with a weapon?
Way different outcome if they come stacked at my front door, sad to say.....
hamcheese
06-10-2011, 09:08 AM
If you are a police officer, or in the miltitary; REMEMBER YOUR OATH AND WHAT AND WHO YOU SERVE (the constitution and the people, FIRST)!
Believe me, a day may or may not come when you will need to make a choice. Welcome to the police state!
sailsmen
06-12-2011, 04:31 AM
Update;
"UPDATE: SWAT Team Breaks Down Man's Door....Over Student Loans!
Posted: Jun 08, 2011 12:15 PM CDT
Updated: Jun 09, 2011 7:19 AM CDT
WASHINGTON - The Department of Education is disputing a local news report that it sent a S.W.A.T. team to knock down the door and search the house of an individual because he defaulted on student loans.
Stockton, Calif. resident Kenneth Wright told the local ABC affiliate that on Tuesday, approximately 15 officers stormed into his home at 6 a.m., placed him in handcuffs and kept him in a squad car for nearly six hours while his three young children remained inside the house.
Wright said one of the individuals grabbed him by the neck and led him outside to his front lawn.
"He had his knee on my back and I had no idea why they were there," Wright said.
The initial report said the U.S. Department of Education "issued the search and called in the S.W.A.T for his wife's defaulted student loans," although that story has since been taken down and replaced with an updated version that did not contain the claim about the raid being connected to student loans.
Department of Education Press Secretary Justin Hamilton confirmed to The Huffington Post that the agency's Office of the Inspector General (OIG) did indeed order the action, although he said it was not about an issue over student loans in default.
"While it was reported in local media that the search was related to a defaulted student loan, that is incorrect," Hamilton said. "This is related to a criminal investigation. The Inspector General's Office does not execute search warrants for late loan payments."
"Because this is an ongoing criminal investigation, we can't comment on the specifics of the case. We can say that the OIG's office conducts about 30-35 search warrants a year on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds."
Wright said all he wants is an "apology for me and my kids and for them to get me a new door."
In the past 3 years several hundred search warrants for public corruption by the Fed have been issued in this area and none were done by a SWAT Team. There have been over 200 indicments for Public Corruption by the Fed. Perhaps politicians are more equal than non-politicians?
An interesting statistic would be how many people are being prosecuted by laws passed in the past 10 years, the past 20 years and the past 30 years.
This home owner was shot 60 times....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html
....and they just cleared SWAT of any wrong doing. Unreal.
http://www.kgun9.com/story/14901255/pima-county-attorney-sides-with-swat?hpt=ju_bn6
sailsmen
06-15-2011, 07:13 AM
In a Totalitarian Society Gov't is never wrong!
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