Tonight's vinyl

[TripleTransAm]

Some of you were witness to that photo of a relic I posted a few weeks ago, when I dug out some old 45s and scanned one of them.

Tonight's foray into my over-2500-strong LP collection generated the following gem.

It also gave me an opportunity to grab one of my basses and work out some of the cobwebs...

[JET]

Le Freak

[TripleTransAm]

Haven't tried jamming to that one yet, but I was surprised to be able to nail "Good Times" without injuring myself... :up:

I always thought you had to be African American to be able to play that stuff without getting hurt. ;)

[SHERIFF]

The oldest 45 I currently have is several Smith & Wesson model 4506s. :)

Geez.... even when I was a young kid about ready to start driving the old vinyl had been replaced with 8 track tape players. Talk about frustrating..... you're driving down the road and the music stops.... the tape player has eaten and destroyed your favorite tape. :D

[SergntMac]

Old records now, eh? My oldest vinyl is an original copy of "In the Garden of Eden."

Anyone know it's other name?

You must show your AARP membership card to qualify for the prize...

[MM03MOK]

Originally posted by SergntMac
Old records now, eh? My oldest vinyl is an original copy of "In the Garden of Eden."

Anyone know it's other name?

You must show your AARP membership card to qualify for the prize... App is in the mail....."In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly?? What do I win??

[martyo]

Originally posted by MM03MOK
App is in the mail....."In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly?? What do I win??

I feel so, um, uh, middle aged. I have that on CD and, if I belive if look hard enough, I will find the vinyl in the basement....

Not an often played song on the radio due to its length!

[dwasson]

I've got about 3500 vinyl LPs and about 1500 CDs. I've recorded many of my favorite LPs to MP3 though and hardly ever play em anymore.

[SHERIFF]

Originally posted by martyo
I feel so, um, uh, middle aged. I have that on CD....


A real nice person would make SHERIFF a copy and mail it to him. :)

[mtnh]

Wow, an LEO asking a lawyer to break the copyright infringement laws... ;-)

Mike

[SHERIFF]

Originally posted by mtnh
Wow, an LEO asking a lawyer to break the copyright infringement laws... ;-)

Mike


Not really..... I have already purchased it and have it on both 8 track and casette. All he would be doing is converting it to CD and saving me the trouble. :)

[Brutus]

Originally posted by SHERIFF
The oldest 45 I currently have is several Smith & Wesson model 4506s. :)




Sweet pistola Sheriff. I used to have one. Wish I had kept it.

[SHERIFF]

Originally posted by Brutus
Sweet pistola Sheriff. I used to have one. Wish I had kept it.

I have one I will sell you, brand new.... never been fired (except factory test fire)
just like the one linked below. $600 I would of course have to ship it through your local FFL licensed dealer.

http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=14979792

[TripleTransAm]

Originally posted by SergntMac
Old records now, eh? My oldest vinyl is an original copy of "In the Garden of Eden."


17:05 of hallucinogenic fun. ;)

I miss the days of songs spanning an entire side of an album (kind of impossible nowadays with CDs... loses its charm). Stuff like "Supper's Ready", "Close to the Edge", "Thick as a Brick" (well, 2 sides)...

Trivia: supposedly one of the members of the band was pissed drunk when conjuring up what eventually became this famous tune. When asked what it was called, he tried to say "In the Garden of Eden" but what came out eventually became the actual title of the song! :beer:

edit: the cover of this album may not be in the greatest of shape, but you have to consider I bought a lot of my vinyl used when I was in school... I paid more attention to scrutinizing the LP surface rather than the jacket.

[SergntMac]

Hallucinogenic? You ought to hear it played on bagpipes!

[MM03MOK]

Originally posted by MM03MOK
App is in the mail....."In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly?? What do I win?? Still waiting to hear what I won! :D

[Haggis]

Originally posted by SergntMac
Hallucinogenic? You ought to hear it played on bagpipes!

Mac, send me a copy if you have one. That is one of my favorite all time songs and I still have the orignal album in 78.

[duhtroll]

If it really becomes important, I am sure I can get a recording of a small Iowa HS pep band playing this. We have the arrangement somewhere . . ..

You have never heard the classics until you have heard them from a HS pep band. It's almost as good as hearing the Muzak version.


:lol:


-A

[TripleTransAm]

Anyone remember the Simpsons episode when Bart switched the little-old-lady organist's sheet music with this tune? The preacher: "Next hymn is "In the Garden of Eden" by I. Ron Butterfly.

Homer leans over to Marge and says "Remember when we used to make out to this hymn?" *giggle giggle*

The scene cuts to 20 minutes later, when the organist collapses in a heap on the organ, as the parishoners are waving lit matches and cigarette lighters.

Classic...

[MM03MOK]

Originally posted by TripleTransAm
Anyone remember the Simpsons episode when.......Classic... I do! Saw it again not that long ago.

[jefferson-mo]

Originally posted by SergntMac
Hallucinogenic? You ought to hear it played on bagpipes!


:rasta:



:lol: :lol:

[SergntMac]

Originally posted by MM03MOK
Still waiting to hear what I won! :D

The task of Director of Communications for Marauderville II. Congrats!

Everyone applaud....

[MERCMAN]

What a prize, I am thinking that it is going to take more than a little chocolate to get Mary through that appointment!!:)

[jefferson-mo]

clap clap clap clap:banana2:



:up:

[MM03MOK]

Originally posted by SergntMac
The task of Director of Communications for Marauderville II. Congrats!

Everyone applaud.... BASTAGE!! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/aetsch/cheeky-smiley-010.gif

[Haggis]

Originally posted by mercman
What a prize, I am thinking that it is going to take more than a little chocolate to get Mary through that appointment!!:)

Just think Mary on your way to Indy you can stop by Hershey and pick up some more chocolate.

Let me know if you decide to stop and I'll give you my order.;)

[stock93cv]

Well, I have a lot of 45s and 33s that I would like to move over to CDs. What's the procedure and equipment for this? Do you have to somehow attach the turntable to the computer and then somehow record the tracks into the computer, or is there some piece of equipment that you can hook up to the turntable and burn the CDs directly? :confused:

93

[Billatpro]

Hallucinogenic? You ought to hear it played on bagpipes!

Oh my god, I don't even want to think about that!
:censor:

[TripleTransAm]

Well, I have a lot of 45s and 33s that I would like to move over to CDs. What's the procedure and equipment for this? Do you have to somehow attach the turntable to the computer and then somehow record the tracks into the computer, or is there some piece of equipment that you can hook up to the turntable and burn the CDs directly? :confused:

93

If you have a soundcard, you probably have some sort of line-in input.

If your turntable is the older ceramic cartridge type (or if you know you can just connect it directly to an AUX IN or LINE IN of your stereo system), then you can just plug it straight into this line input on your soundcard.

If your turntable is the newer (post late 70s?) type with a moving magnet or moving coil type of cartridge, you will need a separate preamplifier before connecting straight into the sound card LINE input. You can verify this is the case if you need to plug your turntable into the PHONO input of your stereo system. The moving magnet or moving coil cartridges put out much smaller outputs and need a separate preamplification before hitting the main amplifier.

Then you need some sort of recording software. Most soundcards come with a sound recorder software, just make sure it's recording from the line inputs. Save as a WAV file (extension .wav).

Then you need burner software to build your CD layout and burn it. In fact, my burner software package includes a software to record input (it even splits the recording into separate files based on the silence between the tracks).

I use Easy CD Creator when recording stuff through my soundblaster Live card. They have a nice program that can even clean up some of the scratches and pops/hisses from older records.

As it stands, my turntable is no longer connected through a stereo system. I have it routed through my computer, which then sends all output to a stereo system for playing.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Although most of my vinyl LP collection has been transferred into CD's, I still have about 500 vinyl LP's plus maybe a hundred 45's. My oldest vinyl (anything) would have to be a 45rpm audition copy of "Wipe Out" by the Safaris on the Dot label. :up:

[stock93cv]

Thanks TTA, that's very useful info. I have Easy CD Creator, so I just need to figure out the connections bit. It look as though I need a pre-amp.
Thanks again.

[TripleTransAm]

Thanks TTA, that's very useful info. I have Easy CD Creator, so I just need to figure out the connections bit. It look as though I need a pre-amp.
Thanks again.

I'm still using the same little pre-amp that I bought back in Dec. 1988 when I got my present turntable. If I recall correctly, I bought it at Radio Shack for fairly cheap (Realistic brand, I think) and it's been plugged in 'round the clock since that day. I think it cost me less than $30 back then. It's just a small little black box about 4 inches x 4 inches, with 4 RCA jacks (2 in, 2 out), a ground terminal (screw clamp), and a power cord. Plug the turntable into the inputs, plug the outputs into the stereo system, take the ground wire from the turntable and connect it to the ground terminal of the preamp, and plug the preamp into the wall.

There are fancier pre-amps out there (complete with sound processing, etc.) but why bother for this task?

So, how do you have the turntable connected currently? If it's currently connected through a stereo system, just use the LINE OUT (or AUX OUT) plugs from the stereo system to feed the LINE IN of the soundcard. That way, you use the built-in preamp of the stereo system. The only downside is that if you were using the stereo system for audio playback from your PC, you'll have to monitor your recording with headphones plugged into your soundcard (if your card supports this).

With line level signals, though, long cables are very detrimental to sound quality, so if the stereo system isn't close to the PC, don't bother running long cables (unless you're really desperate) and just buy the small preamp thingy. They should still be available at specialized music equipment shops. Worst case scenario, you can use those cheap "DJ" mixers that you can find at Radio Shack... they're set up to accept turntables directly.

The nice thing about digitally recording music is that you can apply all sorts of nice stuff to the final sound. Stuff like reverb or compression... and you can always burn the original .wav file to a data CD to store, in case you ever want to go back and burn / modify the original.

[stock93cv]

The computer is a Sony VAIO laptop, so I can move it as close to the stereo as need be. The Line In to the soundcard is a single jack as opposed to the separate L and R outs on the stereo system amplifier, but I think that would be just a matter of a patch cord with the right plugs, an Right RCA pin and a Left RCA pin to the amp outs, and a coax pin for the laptop Line In. Or maybe a Y adaptor that takes the L and R pin jacks and converts them to a coax pin jack.
Sounds easy, so why do I expect that it won't be?
Stay tuned.

[TripleTransAm]

I'm not familiar with the VAIO but most laptops usually use the small "mini" plugs for line in and out (this is the same plug as used on portable audio devices like the Walkman, etc.). In this case you would need a Y-cable, with the male "mini-stereo" (2 black bands) on one side (the laptop) and 2 separate male RCA plugs (the circular one with the thick center pin). Don't confuse the RCA plugs with the term COAX - while an RCA plug is a form of coaxial plug, most folks refer to coax cables as the kind you get your cable or satellite TV signal from : screw-on type plug with a thin single copper wire center pin. Unless you're referring to a completely different plug??

Trust me, it won't be difficult.

Another word of advice: when recording from a turntable, make sure it's on a very steady surface. Try not to touch that surface, and try to walk very gently. Any of these disturbances can be transmitted to the turntable, picked up by the needle, and recorded very faithfully. CDs have a very good frequency response, and it's quite annoying to be listening to your recorded material later on only to hear the "WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP" of you walking into the room during the recording.

edit: you mentioned "amp outs". Try to use AUX OUTs or LINE OUTs from your stereo if you can. On some systems with a separate power amplifier, the preamplifier is the unit that controls the volume, by limiting how much of it goes to the power amplifier (which is always set to one fixed amplification). If you were to disconnect the power amp and used the AMP OUT plugs, you'd have to find the good volume setting on your preamp to generate a good signal to your laptop's sound card. Trial and error, although I'd guess having the preamp at FULL volume would result in a pure unmuted LINE level signal going to the sound card. I dunno...

Trivia: did you know that if you hook up the LINE OUT plugs of any electronic device to a power amplifier like the one I described above, things get REAL FRIGGING LOUD? ;) Like I mentioned above, a full LINE level signal results in FULL output from the power amp.

[stock93cv]

More good advice, TTA.
You are right about the plugs. The laptop has the miniplug with the two bands. So, yes, a Y with the male RCA pins for the amp, and the mini plug on the other end.
Actually, I should have said Line Out and not amp out for the stereo side of things.
Looks like a trip to Radio Shack for the cable and maybe a tryout on the weekend!
Thanks for the suggestions. It would be really nice to be able to cut out some of the pops and hiss on the old vinyl. I can see where a guy could spend a lot of time tooling around with this stuff. Think of the payoff, though--6 CDs in the trunk, all full of 50s and 60s (well, maybe some 70s) music keeping thing cool while moseying around town in the Black Beast.
Yee haw!

[TripleTransAm]

Used to hate the song that made it big on classic rock radio... until I played it live (bass) while standing in for a buddy who was out of town on business.

[Paul T. Casey]

I still have a bunch of vinyl, and even some real glass records. As far as In a gada divita (or however you spell it) on bagpipes, I think I still got a copy of some steel drum band doing Steppenwolf et al stuff, I remember they did a good job on Magic Carpet Ride. Can't remember their name.

[TripleTransAm]

This thread was worth resurrecting just for this particular link... it kind of hurts when I look at it.

http://www.kersbergen.com/temp/worstalbumcovers.html

Honorary mention:
http://www.cenedella.com/stone/archives/000590.html

[jgc61sr2002]

Steve - You probably have those albums. :D