1987 Buick Grand National

[Jolly Roger]

New master cyl., new alternater, new battery.
Rebuilt HP trans w/ trans cooler.
BF Goodritch Drag radials monuted on factory wheels.
Clean interior.
2 extra tires that came off of the wheels that the DR's are mounted on.
New emblems come with sale.
Car has 126,000 + miles on it but body is solid.
Some paint fading.
Not my car but PM me for more info.
Will try to upload pics later.
$5500.00
Ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220824668779&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT is where pics can be seen.
Thank for looking.


SOLD: Car has been SOLD.
Thanks to all.:)

[LOWBUCKMM]

Its my favorite gm product. That car is the reason I love turbo cars.

[DOOM]

Waiting for pics!

[kariamack]

waiting on pics also

[TAKEDOWN]

Hmmmmm... How much work does it need?

[MercNasty]

dam where is the pics, 5k is very tempting

[BATMOBIL]

Sounds tempting!! I got rid of my GN to get the MM!!!!

[slickster]

Hmm what does it need

[Jolly Roger]

Soory guys,
having trouble uploading the pics from my computer to the website.
Been having problems every since I upgraded to internet explorer 9.:mad::mad:

[a_d_a_m]

That price seems wayyyyy too low. Can't wait to see pictures of this thing!

[Blackened300a]

Has me tempted as well. The GN is my all time favorite car.

[TAKEDOWN]

How much work is needed?

Hate to be a pain, but...

[Mercguy04]

Soory guys,
having trouble uploading the pics from my computer to the website.
Been having problems every since I upgraded to internet explorer 9.:mad::mad:

Are you using Windows 7, Vista or XP Pro or Home on any of these OS?
Try uploading imagnes to www.Photobucket.com (http://www.Photobucket.com) if you don't already have
an account you will need to sign up, it's free. once there you can upload
from "Picture Viewer or Kodak or what ever is on the computer as a picture
app.
Photobucket will as you if you want to upload from your computer, the rest
is fairly straight forward. Just name the file and it will give you a URL, post
it to is thread and your in business. Hope this helps.
Anyone else have any suggesting, help the guy out. Looks like he my be
able to move the GN, a win win deal. GLWYS.
Russell

[Jolly Roger]

Are you using Windows 7, Vista or XP Pro or Home on any of these OS?
Try uploading imagnes to www.Photobucket.com (http://www.Photobucket.com) if you don't already have
an account you will need to sign up, it's free. once there you can upload
from "Picture Viewer or Kodak or what ever is on the computer as a picture
app.
Photobucket will as you if you want to upload from your computer, the rest
is fairly straight forward. Just name the file and it will give you a URL, post
it to is thread and your in business. Hope this helps.
Anyone else have any suggesting, help the guy out. Looks like he my be
able to move the GN, a win win deal. GLWYS.
Russell

Thanks Mercguy04,
I'm working on it.

[Jolly Roger]

Okay,
now the MM.net site says something about a security token is missing.
I don't know whats going on but the adminstraters have been notified as the prompt instructed.
So now i'm waiting to find out why the site won't let me upload the pics.:confused:

[jus4kix03MM]

posting a link to your photobucket album might be easier.:)

[Mercguy04]

I have found if I do not finish a post in a certain amount (Unknown) time (like over night,)
If I am researching a subject and don't get back to it right away. The token will expire.
What I do then is copy and hold the information in the quash an refresh the page,
Than paste the information back on to the messages, It will then post. I think the point is
the token runs out like on PayPal if you don't create some activity it will expire. and
you have to start over. In this case copy and paste. Hope this helps.
At least that is the way it works on my MacBook Pro (Lion). I suspect the
same will be true with any windows OS. And yes Photobucket will work.
Remember there is a time limit.
Russell

[Marauder Rick]

If there are any pictures anywhere on Facebook you can simply copy/paste them into the window, no uploading necessary. Just view the pic in FB, right click, copy, come here to the message window, right click, paste, smile, and sale. I believe this also works for photobucket, but i know its good for facebook.

[Jolly Roger]

Okay,
for those interested parties pics can be seen in the ebay auction ad
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220824668779&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT
Thanks for your interest and sorry that it took so long.:);)

[robertmee]

Did you mean new Master Cylinder resevoir, cause the master cylinder on the brake unit does not look new at all. Are you missing the Turbo Shroud or was it removed for the picture?

Looks to be fairly stock other than the transmission upgrade. The 2004r transmissions are very solid so curious as to why it was changed on this car when no other performance upgrades were done?

6K is probably right in line for this condition/mileage car.

EDIT: Is that a factory moon roof (Astro roof) or aftermarket? If factory you should advertise better as they are more rare.

[slickster]

Man I would really like to mess with this.

[Jolly Roger]

Did you mean new Master Cylinder resevoir, cause the master cylinder on the Powermaster unit does not look new at all. Are you missing the Turbo Shroud or was it removed for the picture?

Looks to be fairly stock other than the transmission upgrade. The 2004r transmissions are very solid so curious as to why it was changed on this car when no other performance upgrades were done?

6K is probably right in line for this condition/mileage car.

EDIT: Is that a factory moon roof (Astro roof) or aftermarket? If factory you should advertise better as they are more rare.

1-Master cyl. is new,
what you see is surface rust because it was never painted when installed.
2-Turbo shroud is missing.
3-Trans info is as provided by owner.
4-Moon roof is factory (will revise listing, Thanks.):)

[Jolly Roger]

Bump for ad revisions:)

[Jolly Roger]

For those of you that thought that the car was sold.
It has been re-listed.
Buyer was bogus and not a registered ebay buyer so ebay cancelled the sale and instructed me to re-list.:(:confused::mad:
here is the new listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220824668779&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

[Baaad GN]

This car is rough, master cylinder is not correct, not powermaster, changed, a quick look I'd say wow this has been ridden hard, notice screws around top trim, rusted! Hmmmm but I'm an old fart so don't listen to me. price might be in ball park for this car but not much more as I believe it would take a good buck to have a nice one.
Bet 126,000 or more miles, easy to change miles with these cars, look's not taken care of at all!!!!!! To be blunt this car looks BEAT!!!!

[Baaad GN]

Also trans on these cars had a special valve body, if rebuilt ok, if just changed a major no-no as different. this could be a big buck issue just for the trans if ya don't know what your doing, so I guess what I'm saying have someone who knows these cars look over real good before buying this thing!

[Baaad GN]

Da maybe I should go on, performance upgrades, air cleaner enclosure missing, mastercylinder (not correct one) rusted? Not new! Sorry info is not correct! etc. etc. etc. I think if I really wanted to I could find more but what for!

[Jolly Roger]

I beg to differ sir.
All info is correct as I know it.
Mileage is correct as vehicle history report attests to.
Also photos will show others the same things that you saw (clean interior as well as body defects).
Nothing is intentionally hidden and the phone number has been listed to the owner for any questions,
so why go out of your way to trash the sale.
Very tacky.:confused::(

[robertmee]

master cylinder is not correct, not powermaster, changed

True, someone's done a vacuum brake conversion on the car, which is a very common and popular mod. The powermaster brakes are electric and problematic when the electric pump fails (can you say no hydraulic brakes at that point). I myself have a hydroboost unit (same hydraulic principle but uses power steering pump) sitting on the shelf ready to change out my powermaster unit in my 86.

Sooo.....Bottom line, to the OP, you might mention that a vacuum brake conversion has been done on the vehicle, but its not a deal breaker by any means and some will consider it a desired upgrade.

[Jolly Roger]

True, someone's done a vacuum brake conversion on the car, which is a very common and popular mod. The powermaster brakes are electric and problematic when the electric pump fails (can you say no hydraulic brakes at that point). I myself have a hydroboost unit (same hydraulic principle but uses power steering pump) sitting on the shelf ready to change out my powermaster unit in my 86.

Sooo.....Bottom line, to the OP, you might mention that a vacuum brake conversion has been done on the vehicle, but its not a deal breaker by any means and some will consider it a desired upgrade.

Thanks robertmee,
I'll revise the ad including that information.
I just resent the implication that we are trying to dupe anyone with the info provided.
I am not a GN expert (owned only Lincolns, Mercurys and Fords my whole life).
I've only relayed the info provided to me.
And as stated in the original post (Not My Car).
Thank to all that have positive information to share.

[Baaad GN]

Sorry I'm not trying to trash anything, I said if someone is interested to make sure they have someone look at it who knows GN's! I do! Also let me say I bought mine new and still have it although it's almost worn out with 51,000 miles on it. Also I know the pitfalls of what someone will run into in buying one, can be expensive. Now I'll really upset people, mine runs good and I'd blow any Maurader off the road unless it is supercharged, thern it's neck to neck, mine will run in the 11/12's all day long with $400.00 dollors of mod's and I love it so much it'll be mine until I die, then it's my son's.
Note it would take little to clean up the engine compartment, that along tellls me someone didn't take good care of it or at least try to hide that fact a little. Clean seats? wonderful!

[Baaad GN]

Hmmm maybe I should say $6,000 is cheap and could be a good deal but just understand $6,000 is the staring point. Look for rust! killer!

[robertmee]

Now I'll really upset people, mine runs good and I'd blow any Maurader off the road unless it is supercharged, thern it's neck to neck, mine will run in the 11/12's all day long with $400.00 dollors of mod's and I love it so much it'll be mine until I die, then it's my son's.


I appreciate your passion for your GN. I love mine as well. Mine is a built out 10 sec 1/4 mile car. However, not to get too far into Jolly's for sale thread, but let's get a few facts straight.

The 86/87 GNs were the fastest production cars of those years...Corvette owners hated that and it is one reason GM stopped production of the GN. However, fast is relative. The stock GNs were 14.1 sec 1/4 mile cars. The 87 GNX was 13.5. So, no matter how you slice it, $400 worth of bolt ons is not going to give you a 11 sec GN. No way, no how.

If you want an idea of what it takes to get a GN to 11, 10 and 9 second quarters, follow some of the 'recipes' that have been proven over time. None of them can you do for anywhere near $400. Yes, a CAI kit, hot wiring your fuel pump and some other cheaper mods may get you to low 13s, but not 11s. And yes, low 13's will likely beat many stock or slightly modded marauders. And for an apple to apple comparison, you can make a GN faster than a marauder all day long for the same amount of $ applied. But they are two different beasts. The marauder you're doing it in luxury. A GN was built for speed and speed only. I love both my GN and MM but for different reasons.

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/recipepage.html

[Jolly Roger]

To all concerned,
Car has been SOLD.
Thanks.:)