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Marauder
01-15-2004, 10:53 PM
Such as Silver Star H1s? What about an H1 HID upgrade kit?

I'm putting my Vic's Silver Stars in the Marauder headlights and maybe getting brighter H1 for the foggies.

Just curious to see what others have done.

Thanks...
Danny

MM03
01-16-2004, 06:10 AM
I upgraded my fogs with the Silverstars and they made a noticable diffrence over stock. They are brighter and whiter.

martyo
01-16-2004, 06:14 AM
Todd (TAF) did it with the Silverstars and tells me he loves it. So, of course I had to order the Silverstars too and they are on their way to me. I also ordered the Silverstar turn signal bulbs. I will let you know what I think when I get 'em all installed.

gja
01-16-2004, 07:02 AM
I have 100 watt H1 bulbs in mine. Also, I removed the bulb-shade for a stronger center throw. Lotsa light on the road now.

TAF
01-16-2004, 07:55 AM
Such as Silver Star H1s? What about an H1 HID upgrade kit?

I'm putting my Vic's Silver Stars in the Marauder headlights and maybe getting brighter H1 for the foggies.

Just curious to see what others have done.

Thanks...
Danny
Yes...and for $30...this is a "must-do mod". BIG difference over the OEM fogs.

Agent M79
01-16-2004, 10:06 AM
I've done it too.

I use my fogs as DRLs and it helped a lot.

Big Red
01-16-2004, 10:26 AM
I installed the Silver Stars headlights and the turn signals...they work and look great.
Now I have to do the foggies.

Agent M79
01-16-2004, 10:38 AM
I installed the Silver Stars headlights and the turn signals...they work and look great.
Now I have to do the foggies.
Ooooo... turn signals. Nice.

As an aside, has anyone done any work on the turning lamps? Brighter would be fine but aiming them a little more forward so that it adds to the headlight beam would be nice.

Right now I have the light from the headlight, a dark patch, then the light from the turning lamp. Just wondering if they could be a little more forward so I could see into the corner a little bit better before turning.

Marauder
01-16-2004, 03:56 PM
Hmmm....looks like I got some work to do tomorrow. I'm also gonna buy the H1 Silver Stars...hehe. :D

bugsys03
01-16-2004, 04:00 PM
Silverstar 9007 headlights and H1 driving lights :up:

CRUZTAKER
01-16-2004, 05:34 PM
I went with Zenon 80/100 watt headlamps, Zenon 100w foglamps, and removed the diffusers. I am using APC titanium bulbs in the marker lights, the factory orange looking bulbs look so queer.

I still haven't done the side/turn signal white lamp yet, but they will also be zenons.

FordNut
01-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Ooooo... turn signals. Nice.

As an aside, has anyone done any work on the turning lamps? Brighter would be fine but aiming them a little more forward so that it adds to the headlight beam would be nice.

Right now I have the light from the headlight, a dark patch, then the light from the turning lamp. Just wondering if they could be a little more forward so I could see into the corner a little bit better before turning.

I put in Silverstar 9007 headlights, Silverstar H1 fogs, and Silverstar 3157 turn signal/markers. The 3157s have a bluish purple color whtn they're off but are orange when they're on. I also put in Xenon 3156 cornering lamps. They are the blue color bulbs and the light is bluish in color. Didn't see any way to adjust the angle of light coming out of them. A note, I also tried the 50W halogen 3156 bulbs and they were brighter than the OEM bulbs but they still put out a yellowish colored light when compared to the Silverstars. So I put them in the backup lights.

Marauder
01-17-2004, 02:44 PM
Silver Stars are in....but what a PITA compared to any other car...lol. But worth it!!!! :D

Big Red
01-17-2004, 05:12 PM
Silver Stars are in....but what a PITA compared to any other car...lol. But worth it!!!! :D

Did you run into any trouble??

Marauder
01-17-2004, 05:34 PM
A bit tough to get the head lights out without scratching the bumper but I did it. I did remove the corner lights to have more space to work with.

I'm going to order the Silver Star H1s and maybe do them next weekend.

paheff
01-17-2004, 05:56 PM
If you thought the headlights were a pain, wait till you do the left hand fog. Of course I did mine in the driveway, in the rain. Couldn't wait, had to do it right when they got here...I got one in before the rain started. Even dry the left one would be a pain.

TooManyFords
01-17-2004, 06:15 PM
I was able to install my bulbs without removing the headlights. I first tried to do that but was afraid I would scratch the bumper. It is trickey, but you -can- do it if you work slowly.

John

Petrograde
01-17-2004, 06:50 PM
Such as Silver Star H1s? What about an H1 HID upgrade kit?

I'm putting my Vic's Silver Stars in the Marauder headlights and maybe getting brighter H1 for the foggies.

Just curious to see what others have done.

Thanks...
Danny
I've been thinking about the same upgrades,... does anyone know if they make tail, brake and backup lights too? Since I put the Nite Shades on I think my rear lights aren't quite visible enough.

Tom

joflewbyu2
01-17-2004, 07:25 PM
Know why fog lights are amber instead of white? Amber light penetrates fog better. the white color light reflects back in your eyes. HID lights are awful in rain, fog and humid conditions. DON'T confuse color with brightness. it is an illusion. anytime you put a tint on a bulb, you reduce the brightness. white color bulbs (silverstars) have a blueish tint on them.

FordNut
01-17-2004, 07:32 PM
I've been thinking about the same upgrades,... does anyone know if they make tail, brake and backup lights too? Since I put the Nite Shades on I think my rear lights aren't quite visible enough.

Tom

Use the 3457's for tail/brake lights. They're brighter than the standard 3157's. I used the Sylvania longlife bulbs. I also put the 50W 3156 halogen bulbs in the backups.

TAF
01-17-2004, 07:38 PM
This link...http://www.sylvania.com/bin/carApp/carApp_ver2.pl?flag=model_qual s&make=&make=Mercury&year=&year=2003&model=Marauder&x=33&y=7
will give you ALL the model numbers for the replacement by Sylvania SilerStars for EVERY lamp on our car.

Petrograde
01-17-2004, 07:46 PM
This link...http://www.sylvania.com/bin/carApp/carApp_ver2.pl?flag=model_qual s&make=&make=Mercury&year=&year=2003&model=Marauder&x=33&y=7
will give you ALL the model numbers for the replacement by Sylvania SilerStars for EVERY lamp on our car.
Thanks Todd and Fordnut!

I wonder if those Sylvania bulbs are brighter? On some it just said 'longer life' hmmm....:confused:

Tom

TAF
01-17-2004, 07:48 PM
Thanks Todd and Fordnut!

I wonder if those Sylvania bulbs are brighter? On some it just said 'longer life' hmmm....:confused:

Tom
I don't know for a fact on all of them, Tom. But my GUESS would be they would ALL be an improvement over what is used on the Ford production line.

03SILVERSTREAK
01-17-2004, 08:04 PM
I put in Silverstar 9007 headlights, Silverstar H1 fogs, and Silverstar 3157 turn signal/markers. The 3157s have a bluish purple color whtn they're off but are orange when they're on. I also put in Xenon 3156 cornering lamps. They are the blue color bulbs and the light is bluish in color. Didn't see any way to adjust the angle of light coming out of them. A note, I also tried the 50W halogen 3156 bulbs and they were brighter than the OEM bulbs but they still put out a yellowish colored light when compared to the Silverstars. So I put them in the backup lights.

I installed the 50W halogen backup bulbs and they were brighter than the original 27W cornering lamps and also installed them in the backup lamps. since the cornering lamps only light up when useing the turn signals at night I left them in until something new comes up...50W halogen 3156 bulbs

03SILVERSTREAK
01-17-2004, 08:10 PM
I have 100 watt H1 bulbs in mine. Also, I removed the bulb-shade for a stronger center throw. Lotsa light on the road now.

How do you remove the bulb shade?

Marauder
01-18-2004, 08:22 AM
Know why fog lights are amber instead of white? Amber light penetrates fog better. the white color light reflects back in your eyes. HID lights are awful in rain, fog and humid conditions.

I was thinking of keeping the fog lights because their color is a bit yellower than the Silver Stars. Yellow does pierce through bad weather better. But i'll have to see since I don't wanna drive my Marauder in the rain or snow....lol.



DON'T confuse color with brightness. it is an illusion. anytime you put a tint on a bulb, you reduce the brightness. white color bulbs (silverstars) have a blueish tint on them.

In all honesty, the silver stars really aren't brighter than the stock bulbs...they're about the same brightness but they're whiter. They don't have a blueish tint.

03SILVERSTREAK
01-18-2004, 08:27 AM
Im sure what is being said about the color of fog lights have merit but I have silverstar lamps in place for the oem fog lamps and with the fog in the morning up here I have no problem seeing ahead of me...

Heavy351
01-18-2004, 06:51 PM
I just removed the shade from the fog lights this afternoon and installed the Silverstars in the headlamps.

You need to remove the plastic cover under the bumper (4 8mm screws) the fog lite wires will be attached to it so just push it out of the way. Unplug the connector and remove the bulb and set it aside without touching it.

At the bottom of the foglamp assembly is a gold colored thumscrew that adjusts the height of the beam. turn the screw clockwise in until it hits the stops while counting the turns (only 1) then unthread all the way out. The only thing now holding the back of the lamp to the lens are the 2 "pivot points" on each side.

Gently lift this plastic pivot point with your fingers enough to slide the reflector side of the lamp assembly out and away from the lens side still attached to the bumber.

The shade is a metal ring that surrouds the bulb, pull straight out away from the reflector (only held in by light pressure)

Reassemble everything and turn the adjustment screw all the way in and back out 1 turn (on my car anyway)

noticably brighter....about 15min for each side.

martyo
01-18-2004, 07:49 PM
^^^Nice write up Heavy!^^^ Thanks! My bulbs are in transit and I will use your write up to do the install. Thanks again, brother!!

03SILVERSTREAK
01-18-2004, 08:28 PM
I just removed the shade from the fog lights this afternoon and installed the Silverstars in the headlamps.

You need to remove the plastic cover under the bumper (4 8mm screws) the fog lite wires will be attached to it so just push it out of the way. Unplug the connector and remove the bulb and set it aside without touching it.

At the bottom of the foglamp assembly is a gold colored thumscrew that adjusts the height of the beam. turn the screw clockwise in until it hits the stops while counting the turns (only 1) then unthread all the way out. The only thing now holding the back of the lamp to the lens are the 2 "pivot points" on each side.

Gently lift this plastic pivot point with your fingers enough to slide the reflector side of the lamp assembly out and away from the lens side still attached to the bumber.

The shade is a metal ring that surrouds the bulb, pull straight out away from the reflector (only held in by light pressure)

Reassemble everything and turn the adjustment screw all the way in and back out 1 turn (on my car anyway)

noticably brighter....about 15min for each side.

Excellent instructions on removing the shade. When it starts to warm up, Im getting busy... :up:

TAF
01-19-2004, 08:46 AM
As to the comments above on "foglights"...I consider what we have more of a "driving light(s)" than "foglights". There is a considerable difference in the functionality of both. It is true that "foglights" generally have a yellow color to penetrate the fog and they are usually mounted higher on the front of a car (i.e. the '05 GT Mustang) I think it's a matter of semantics in this discussion.Feel free to correct me if you disagree.

03SILVERSTREAK
06-22-2004, 04:15 AM
Excellent instructions on removing the shade. When it starts to warm up, Im getting busy... :up:Well followed the instruction and removed the shade and the light out and spread on the road has much improved . although a slight change to the previous instructions , instead of turning the brass screw clockwise , turn it Counterclockwise as to remove it , then the rest of the instructions fall right into place... :D

Dennis Reinhart
09-22-2004, 11:30 AM
I put in Silverstar 9007 headlights, Silverstar H1 fogs, and Silverstar 3157 turn signal/markers. The 3157s have a bluish purple color whtn they're off but are orange when they're on. I also put in Xenon 3156 cornering lamps. They are the blue color bulbs and the light is bluish in color. Didn't see any way to adjust the angle of light coming out of them. A note, I also tried the 50W halogen 3156 bulbs and they were brighter than the OEM bulbs but they still put out a yellowish colored light when compared to the Silverstars. So I put them in the backup lights.

I get to ask for help for a change these H1 fog lamps dont they require to cut the OEM plug, if this is the case is there no direct replacement fog light that does not require cutting or modifiying the wires

TAF
09-22-2004, 11:32 AM
I get to ask for help for a change these H1 fog lamps dont they require to cut the OEM plug, if this is the case is there no direct replacement fog light that does not require cutting or modifiying the wires
The Sylvania SilverStar H1 fogs are a direct replacement Dennis. I highly recommend them. :up:

PJR
09-22-2004, 11:56 AM
For a complete list of Sylvania compatibility see the Bulb Sizes thread.

:cool4:

Dennis Reinhart
09-22-2004, 12:29 PM
The Sylvania SilverStar H1 fogs are a direct replacement Dennis. I highly recommend them. :up:


Taff they just sent a set out here they had a single blade terminal what is the corect part #

TAF
09-22-2004, 01:50 PM
Taff they just sent a set out here they had a single blade terminal what is the corect part #
Here's the part # SYLH1STBP

Here's a link to a sight that has them on sale... CLICK HERE (http://www.autobarn.net/h1sthipehaca.html)

FordNut
09-22-2004, 02:39 PM
Taff they just sent a set out here they had a single blade terminal what is the corect part #
The H1 has a single blade terminal. Twist apart the connector on the back of the light assembly and pull the old bulb out of the blade connector, then re-install the new bulb and re-assemble.

Krytin
09-22-2004, 03:17 PM
Taff they just sent a set out here they had a single blade terminal what is the corect part #
Dennis,
That is the correct bulb - H1. The blade plugs into the twist lock conector that comes out of the lens housing. Remove the bulb from the conector by pulling it straight out and push the new one in. It took me awhile to figure this out - the bulb looks like it is a part of the twist lock plug.
Paul

EDIT:
Sorry FN - one should always read to the end of the thread before posting!
P

MENINBLK
09-22-2004, 10:03 PM
You need to remove the plastic cover under the bumper (4 8mm screws) the fog lite wires will be attached to it so just push it out of the way.

Heavy351...

Why did you have the need to do this ?
The plastic cover under my bumper has a section that is held in with VELCRO
that removes very easily to give you access to the fog lamps.

FordNut
09-22-2004, 11:38 PM
Heavy351...

Why did you have the need to do this ?
The plastic cover under my bumper has a section that is held in with VELCRO
that removes very easily to give you access to the fog lamps.
Maybe that's an '04 thing. Mine doesn't have any such velcro attachment.

jakdad
09-23-2004, 04:07 AM
Do any of these replacement bulbs generate additional heat? I'm talking about lenses cracking or becomming discolored. Are our wire harnesses adequate to handle the stronger bulbs? Just some issues I've dealt with in the past but do not know about the Marauder.

FordNut
09-23-2004, 04:14 AM
Do any of these replacement bulbs generate additional heat? I'm talking about lenses cracking or becomming discolored. Are our wire harnesses adequate to handle the stronger bulbs? Just some issues I've dealt with in the past but do not know about the Marauder.
Several of us have been using the silverstars for over a year with no problems. I believe one member was using the high output 100w bulbs and had some issues.

Dennis Reinhart
09-23-2004, 07:06 AM
Dennis,
That is the correct bulb - H1. The blade plugs into the twist lock conector that comes out of the lens housing. Remove the bulb from the conector by pulling it straight out and push the new one in. It took me awhile to figure this out - the bulb looks like it is a part of the twist lock plug.
Paul

EDIT:
Sorry FN - one should always read to the end of the thread before posting!
P


LOL thanks alot I aws abot to post this was still wrong so now I am going to stock most of these

jakdad
09-23-2004, 08:37 AM
Several of us have been using the silverstars for over a year with no problems. I believe one member was using the high output 100w bulbs and had some issues. Thanks, that answers a question. I didn't know they came in different wattages. I would think that a 100W would be marginal on what the wire harness can handle. Good heads up!!
:cuke: :cuke:

MENINBLK
09-23-2004, 09:20 AM
LOL thanks alot I aws abot to post this was still wrong so now I am going to stock most of these

Dennis,

If you stock ALL Silver stars for ALL of our bulb needs, I'll get them from you.
I've only been able to find them reasonable at Wally World or eBay,
and Wally World, even thought it is a work stop for me, is a hike to get to.
None of them are really close by...

$24.95 for 2-pak H1 bulbs on eBay.
Wally World has them for $18.95 each.

Everyone else wants $$$ for the same bulb...

I've got the H1s and the 9007s but I woldn't mind getting the Cornering and the Turn Signal in Silver Star either...
Even the backup lamps need to be just a tad bit brighter...

FordNut
09-23-2004, 12:45 PM
Thanks, that answers a question. I didn't know they came in different wattages. I would think that a 100W would be marginal on what the wire harness can handle. Good heads up!!
:cuke: :cuke:
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that Silverstars come in 100W, some 9007 "off-road only" bulbs do come in 100W however. I believe they push the limits of the harness and maybe even burn up sockets. But they're really bright for a little while!

03SILVERSTREAK
09-23-2004, 04:30 PM
You can also remove the metal shield that covers the Bulb and that will give you more of a briter light on the road.

jakdad
09-23-2004, 05:22 PM
You can also remove the metal shield that covers the Bulb and that will give you more of a briter light on the road. What is the metal shield for?

03SILVERSTREAK
09-23-2004, 06:47 PM
What is the metal shield for?
The Metal cover keeps the light from being too bright by keeping the light focused on the surrounding reflector as oppose to directly exposed.

Canadasvt
06-26-2007, 05:59 PM
This link...http://www.sylvania.com/bin/carApp/carApp_ver2.pl?flag=model_qual s&make=&make=Mercury&year=&year=2003&model=Marauder&x=33&y=7
will give you ALL the model numbers for the replacement by Sylvania SilerStars for EVERY lamp on our car.
Updated Sylvania page:
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/AutomotiveLighting/LampReplacementGuide/AutoLRG-Results.htm

Raudermaster
06-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Was it really necessary to revive a 3 year old thread to give us an updated link, which doesn't even work, to Sylvania's site about the bulbs that you could find for yourself?

MENINBLK
06-26-2007, 08:29 PM
Neubies !!!

finster101
06-27-2007, 03:25 AM
and you wonder why some people never post?

Canadasvt
06-27-2007, 07:42 AM
Was it really necessary to revive a 3 year old thread to give us an updated link, which doesn't even work, to Sylvania's site about the bulbs that you could find for yourself?
Oops! I'll just crawl back under my rock.
BTW it's laughable that YOU, Sir Raudermaster checked that link after I ignorantly revived said 3 year old thread.
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