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Black_Noise
10-12-2011, 05:51 AM
So I had to load the stock tune in so I can send the programmer of to get a new tune (xcal3) and wow, the stock shift point are so horrible, I'm thinking about leaving the mm parked till I get the programmer back.


Just had to complain a little


When I get it back though.... oh yeah that's when the fun can start
ctrlraven
10-12-2011, 06:10 AM
I haven't driven on a stock tune on mine since like May or June of 2006. lol
Black_Noise
10-12-2011, 10:57 AM
Same here..... I forgot how bad it was.

Load your stock tune and after a block or two you'll be ready to change back
Siege
10-12-2011, 11:15 AM
When I first got my car I thought the transmission was on the way out with all the hunting between gears the stock tune does.
airjordan2k8
10-12-2011, 11:18 AM
does tuning the car use more gas??? jus askn....
BirchMarauder
10-12-2011, 11:22 AM
Of course!
Siege
10-12-2011, 11:24 AM
does tuning the car use more gas??? jus askn....

I get 22-23mpg with the Lidio 93 octane tune and revised shift schedule.

Mostly interstate.
ctrlraven
10-12-2011, 11:25 AM
Most people don't see a mpg increase because the car becomes a lot more fun to drive and you tend to get on it a lot more and have fun.

After all my mods I get about 20-21 mpg average.
airjordan2k8
10-12-2011, 11:28 AM
oh ok cause i was seeing everybody gets a tune... but i was jus wondering cause i drive about 100 miles a day and i didnt want it to use a lot more gas....
Siege
10-12-2011, 11:31 AM
Most people don't see a mpg increase because the car becomes a lot more fun to drive and you tend to get on it a lot more and have fun.

After all my mods I get about 20-21 mpg average.

How much interstate is that average just for comparison?
ctrlraven
10-12-2011, 01:08 PM
If you don't drive with a heavy foot and enjoy the perks of the new tune then yeah you might see a mpg increase. If you do a lot of interstate driving you will see the most as the car is a cruiser car. Doing a lot of stop and go or low speed travel will eat more gas.
SID210SA
10-12-2011, 05:05 PM
airjordan2k8,


Believe me, it is well worth it.....I lost about 1-2 mpg, but only because I dive a bit spiritedly because of the tune.
slickster
10-12-2011, 06:36 PM
my xcal will be here in the morning. can someone tell me how to revise the shift points from the tuner
71cyclone
10-12-2011, 08:59 PM
The Stock Tune -is a Federal Epa fuel econ joke to disguise the car [ Electronic Cloking device ] as was said in Star Treck
MyBlackBeasts
10-12-2011, 09:04 PM
does tuning the car use more gas??? jus askn....

Yes & no.

No, gets same if not better fuel mileage because tune is far superior to OEM.

Yes you end up using more fuel because it runs so good you end up with your foot in it all the time!!!!! :burn:

I do about 50/50 highway/city and averaged 21mpg with the OEM tune. With my Lidio 91 Octane tune I now get 23mpg and it drives like a dream! No more trans shifting like an abortion (retard OEM engineers!). I love it!
ctrlraven
10-13-2011, 08:27 AM
my xcal will be here in the morning. can someone tell me how to revise the shift points from the tuner
Why do you need to revise anything?
airjordan2k8
10-13-2011, 08:33 AM
well you guys are making wanna get this tune.... and as for gettn it where can i get it done at????
Black_Noise
10-13-2011, 09:57 AM
the new xcal will have the tune with revised shift point already in it.


Stock it almost feels like its missing 3rd gear in town, it shifts WAY to early.



get one from www.alternativeauto.com (http://www.alternativeauto.com)