Trash in cylinder chamber

[Big House]

I had a cop foul out this morning and in the process of removing the plug, a piece of the cop boot fell into the chamber. Besides getting "Jerry Sanduskied" by the dealership, is there another course of action I can take. My car is down with no back up. All suggestions are appreciated.

[fastblackmerc]

A strong shop vac and a long small tip.

[Krytin]

If it's just the rubber boot it's not likely to hurt anything.
30 years ago I had someone drop the aircleaner wing nut down the carb of a '68 6 cylinder Mustang while it was running! It went all the way through (finally!) and came out the exhaust. The car ran fine for more than 5 more years of daily use w/no problem!! The car was sold running fine and that's the last I know of it.

Take a remote starter switch and crank the motor over w/out the ignition or fuel.
Leave the plug out and see if it will blow back out the hole. CAUTION: it is absolutely required that there be NO souce of spark or fuel during this proceedure while the plug or all of the plugs are out!! You can't believe the flames that will come out of the plug holes if you are injecting fuel and it ignites while cranking!!

Worst case senario the boot will pass the exhaust valve and eventually burn up in the first cat.

It's this or your pulling the head!

[RacerX]

I don't know if the stock spring pressure would be enough to cut the rubber in half if it got caught in a valve, it should.

[Krytin]

A good shop vac over the hole while cranking may force which orifice it will exit through.




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That's what she said!!

[Pat]

If it was small enough to fit thru the spark plug opening a vacum should suck it out, as fastblackmerc recommended.

You will prolly have to fashion a funnel small enough to just cover the hole, try one of those long stem funnels.

[capt512]

Assuming you could see it, could you get a small plumbers pick up tool down in there and pull it out? Like this http://www.vatoraccessories.com/catalog.php/vatoraccessories/dt84525/pd1946166/Claw_Pick-Up_Tool_24_ They have them at home depot, lowes, etc

[Blackened300a]

When my plug shot out and shorted my COP. It melted the boot and most of the rubber fell into the cylinder. When I replaced the plug and fired it up, it sounded like a low level knock til it all burnt off within a few seconds.
If you dropped a peice of the plug in there then I would suggest fishing it out, but the rubber won't hurt anything. Like was said before, you can try cranking it with the injectors unplugged and see if it pushes it out, or just fire it up and let it burn up in the cylinder.

I dropped a wingnut in a exes mothers Oldsmobile, it ran great for almost 2 years before the wingnut ended up entering the cylinder through the intake and destroyed the piston.
After 2 years they forgot I ever touched the car so I was in the clear. ;)

[DOOM]

Assuming you could see it, could you get a small plumbers pick up tool down in there and pull it out?

Thats what she said! :puke:

[Blackened300a]

Thats what she said! :puke:

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[DOOM]

A good shop vac over the hole while cranking may force which orifice it will exit through.




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That's what she said!!


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[CBT]

Assuming you could see it, could you get a small plumbers pick up tool down in there and pull it out? Like this http://www.vatoraccessories.com/catalog.php/vatoraccessories/dt84525/pd1946166/Claw_Pick-Up_Tool_24_ They have them at home depot, lowes, etc

That is a must have tool for picking up things you have dropped, like sockets, bolts, anything that can get lost under the hood of a car. Also good for picking things out of a garbage disposal without worrying about the darn thing kicking on and cutting your sex life in half. You know, 'cause it would mess up one hand. No? Just me? Fine....:alone:

[Blackened300a]

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[DOOM]

Congrats!!! Something other then TWSS from you!

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[Pops]

Maybe I should get a trophy :trophy1: and have my picture taken. :camera:

Don't think they have a camera with a wide angle lens that will get your big A$$ ego in it!:P

[LANDY]

Vaccum it out or use a really long needle noise plyers.

[CBT]

Vaccum it out or use a really long needle noise plyers.

I could be wrong but I don't think they make a set of needle nose pliers that can hit the bottom of our valve covers.

[DOOM]

How about using a compressed air can. Like what you would use to clean a keyboard. And just blow it out. And they come with the straw extension.

[CBT]

If it is just down the valve cover hole, and not ontop on the cylinder, fold some tape over the end of a wire coat hanger and pluck it out. If it's passed on thru to the piston, just burn it off via normal operations.

[Ozz]

Get one of those long things that has the 3 (or 4?) spring steel fingers at the end and keep trying it down the hole until you snag the trash. It's probably at the lowest point so pre-bend the gadget.
here's a picture of what I'm talking about:
http://toolmonger.com/2006/07/29/flexible-grabber-tool/

I think I got mine at Harbor Freight. Have used it several times to save my a$$...

[2,4shofast]

I had a similar problem with my Jag a few weeks back but it was a plastic clip, I ended up getting it out with mechanical fingers after a lot of persistance. Might be worth the few dollars if your worried about it?

[88LTDCV351]

Remember that episode of Mythbusters where they dropped a penny in the engine. It still ran fine.

[ctrlraven]

If you are going to crank the engine over, remove the fuel pump and IGN fuse so no fuel or spark will be going on or just get a socket to fit on the crank and a breaker bar and just rotate it until that piston is TDC.

[RacerX]

I bet a 150 wet shot would fix it! :banana2:

[Big House]

When it rains it pours...Tried the conventional methods listed here with exception to running the car with plug out. After reading a few and talking with a few more, I decided to pt in a fresh plug and COP and be on my way. NOT!!!! the freaking threads inside the head are gone. The new plug ain't grabbing on to anything. How do I fix this As much as I love my car...she is starting to be be a real pain in my :censor::censor:.

[LANDY]

Damn! That's a bad one. Helicoil it.

[fastblackmerc]

When it rains it pours...Tried the conventional methods listed here with exception to running the car with plug out. After reading a few and talking with a few more, I decided to pt in a fresh plug and COP and be on my way. NOT!!!! the freaking threads inside the head are gone. The new plug ain't grabbing on to anything. How do I fix this As much as I love my car...she is starting to be be a real pain in my :censor::censor:.

Are you trying to put the plug in with a socket? If so, the plug may be too far up in the socket. Try using a length of fuel hose on the top of the plug to start it.

[MM2004]

When it rains it pours...Tried the conventional methods listed here with exception to running the car with plug out. After reading a few and talking with a few more, I decided to pt in a fresh plug and COP and be on my way. NOT!!!! the freaking threads inside the head are gone. The new plug ain't grabbing on to anything. How do I fix this As much as I love my car...she is starting to be be a real pain in my :censor::censor:.

Dude,

If the threads are in fact 'gone', there is a fix that will work as proven by a friend of mine that has used this method twice. Once on his Mustang the other on a 5.4

Time-Sert Ford Triton Spark Plug Repair Kit is what he used.

I have been on the phone with him for the past 10 minutes, and he cannot say enough about this kit.

Not cheap - ~$350.00+, but cheaper than a new head + labor cost(s).

The instructions are very intuitive, and you can also find vids on Youtube.

Here is a link to Amazon dot com that should help show/explain what I am referring to:

http://www.amazon.com/Time-Sert-Triton-Spark-Repair-5553/dp/B0038B325I

Keep us posted and good luck!

Mike.

[Big House]

Are you trying to put the plug in with a socket? If so, the plug may be too far up in the socket. Try using a length of fuel hose on the top of the plug to start it.

That might be it...will try later.

[RF Overlord]

If the threads are in fact stripped, then I agree 100% with Mike's suggestion. TimeSert is also the only thread-repair system specifically authorised by Ford.

[fastblackmerc]

That might be it...will try later.

That happened to me on a members Marauder.

[LANDY]

I have the helicoil kit from timesert, I used two of them. It works perfect. Pm me with an offer I might let it go.

[Blackened300a]

Go with a timesert set if it is the threads. Since you had a problem that made you suspect a bad COP then it's not looking good.

[Spectragod]

If the threads are in fact stripped, then I agree 100% with Mike's suggestion. TimeSert is also the only thread-repair system specifically authorised by Ford.


Actually, Lock-N-Stich is the approved method now. I have a Time Sert kit myself, it works flawless.

[Big House]

Got home last night and as suggested used something to set the plug in place and the threadwas good to go. Installed the plug and COP and fired her up. Burning rubber smell was there but she ran like normal. Thanks for all the help. Question though...has anyone experienced a spark plug being hit by the cylinder head. When I pulled the old plug, the gap was completely closed, and contacting the the lead.

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[RacerX]

Unless it was the wrong length plug, your cylinder didn't hit it. You would not be able to drive it for fear a sledgehammer was going to come through your hood at any moment if it did. Debris in the cylinder to begin with maybe?

[cshorts]

Had pretty much the exact thing happen 2 weeks ago. Plug was ejected and the plug and cylinder head hole stripped. Plug was the same in that the gap was closed right up. Told by my mechanic not that uncommon and he helicoiled it and it runs fine. $150 including the new plug. He sent a borescope down inside and said everythng looked OK.