For the 22's and 24's only!!!

[jwibbity]

I need help on a decision here, i am in the market for either 22" or 24" inch rims for my SB. I have traction control and all that and know that i need the 3% difference in the wheels. The questions I need answered are

Where is the rear height sensor exactly located??(picture if available)

If 24's what needs to be added to front for clearance??? (spacers??!?)

What does the offset have to be?? (Front & Rear)

If 24's can i keep 8.5" up front and 9.5" in the back??(staggered)

And yes i know the performance losses from having these size rims so please only advice, i already have my mine set on it. I know a couple members on here have either 22's or 24's like larryjon24's and a few others, THANKS!!!

[boatmangc]

Where is the rear height sensor exactly located??(picture if available)



It is attached to the Watts link almost directly above the pumpkin.

Don't forget that when you do the big wheels you really need to do big brakes to stop all the extra rolling weight.

[05crownsport]

It is attached to the Watts link almost directly above the pumpkin.

Don't forget that when you do the big wheels you really need to do big brakes to stop all the extra rolling weight.

+1 to this. I noticed a difference even with just 19" rims in the stopping distance.

[CBT]

I need help on a decision here, i am in the market for either 22" or 24" inch rims for my SB. I have traction control and all that and know that i need the 3% difference in the wheels. The questions I need answered are

Where is the rear height sensor exactly located??(picture if available)

If 24's what needs to be added to front for clearance??? (spacers??!?)

What does the offset have to be?? (Front & Rear)

If 24's can i keep 8.5" up front and 9.5" in the back??(staggered)

And yes i know the performance losses from having these size rims so please only advice, i already have my mine set on it. I know a couple members on here have either 22's or 24's like larryjon24's and a few others, THANKS!!!
Do you have a couple sets in mind and if so post a pic.

[bolsen]

Oh no, not another destroyed Marauder.

[marauder410]

idk how it another destoyed marauder its not your car so why worry bout it and say negative stuff dont even show any1 no pichure's dude cuz there gonna do nothing but say negative things to you. they worry bout others car more than there own i think its hilarious fu** it through 26's and lift it up with a 4'lift kit give them somethin to talk about

[2,4shofast]

I was about to say I was impressed with everyone being open minded for a change....:stupid:

[Juice]

idk how it another destoyed marauder its not your car so why worry bout it and say negative stuff dont even show any1 no pichure's dude cuz there gonna do nothing but say negative things to you. they worry bout others car more than there own i think its hilarious fu** it through 26's and lift it up with a 4'lift kit give them somethin to talk about

I prefer the stock look of our cars, but cheers to you for doing what you want with YOUR car. Don't let these clowns get you down. ;)

[kmastl]

You should do some 22's off the new ford edge. If I were going to go wagon wheels *No offense* I would go with those because its something you never see. I think a 30 and a 35 series out back would fit. Not sure about offset and backspacing though.

Post pics when you get what you're after, I enjoy viewing any marauder any day. :beer:

Here is the rear air ride adjustment. Its located on the watts link. Very easy to adjust. With proper tires on 22's you should be able to fit them without adjusting the ride height. Many members run a 255 55 18 out back with is ~ 29" tall. You can achieve that with a 35 series tire on a 22" rim.

[Da Dark Jedi]

I don't people are rolling on Dubs anymore. Now there's 24" and up, at least here in the Big Windy.

[bolsen]

idk how it another destoyed marauder its not your car so why worry bout it and say negative stuff dont even show any1 no pichure's dude cuz there gonna do nothing but say negative things to you. they worry bout others car more than there own i think its hilarious fu** it through 26's and lift it up with a 4'lift kit give them somethin to talk about
I got a headache trying to read this but I get your point...I think.

[marauder410]

if you didn't who cares cuz i dont


I got a headache trying to read this but I get your point...I think.

[4drcbra]

:beatnik:
if you didn't who cares cuz i dont

whoa, someone needs a hug....


As far as the big rim question you might be better off posting on one of the crown vic forums. We are more purist when it comes to aesthetics around here. But def gonna need go big brakes. I wouldnt do anything that would require cutting body. Spacers up front and i would even consider a coil conversion in the rear to do it "right". Consult a lo al 4x4 shop. Those guys can be pretty helpful witht that stuff.

[Billy]

As far as the big rim question you might be better off posting on one of the crown vic forums.
Nope. He'd pretty much get the same response on any of the crown vic forums..

[4drcbra]

Nope. He'd pretty much get the same response on any of the crown vic forums..

Well then.... Google,.rime and tire shop.for offsets. 22 womt be hard to do.24 is tougher. 26 is all kind added work. I once looked at a set of 20 race style wheels. But the car makes itself so i just improved my tires instead. Jm2c. Good luck finding what you need.

[MOTOWN]

From an offset stand point i would look at the stock offset and go from there for your 22s or 24s, your going to have to take some measurements to be certain on the offset you want, thats the only way to get it right, as for 24s i think your problem is going to come down to clearance between the tire and inner fender/body and turning, some have a tuff time getting 22s to fit properly without rubing issues good luck with your project.

[adtaylor]

I say do what you want it's your car 22's or 24's will fit with the right offset with no rub. I believe my rims are 8" with 265/30/22 tires all the way around, I personally would'nt go bigger than 22's that's just me speaking. The next set of rims I get will be 22's (staggered) 8" or 8.5" front and 9.5" or 10" back. And for the record will memebers here please stop speaking for the whole community when it comes to the subject of replacing the factory rim size or anything else that's done to someone's own car, we all don't feel the same way as you. As a community we should be able to agree to disagree and at the same time be respectful to each other. This community is a melting pot of different era's and ethnic back grounds, so there are going to be differences in which is okay. We all can learn from each others unique taste if we step outside of the box were currently in.

[MOTOWN]

I say do what you want it's your car 22's or 24's will fit with the right offset with no rub. I believe my rims are 8" with 265/30/22 tires all the way around, I personally would'nt go bigger than 22's that's just me speaking. The next set of rims I get will be 22's (staggered) 8" or 8.5" front and 9.5" or 10" back. And for the record will memebers here please stop speaking for the whole community when it comes to the subject of replacing the factory rim size or anything else that's done to someone's own car, we all don't feel the same way as you. As a community we should be able to agree to disagree and at the same time be respectful to each other. This community is a melting pot of different era's and ethnic back grounds, so there are going to be differences in which is okay. We all can learn from each others unique taste if we step outside of the box were currently in.

Very well said!! i couldnt agree with you more:bows:

[boatmangc]

Oddly enough my Marauder is the 1st vehicle I have bought in as long as I can remember that I didn't have the immediate need to upgrade rims on.
My last toy car my Mark 8 went through 4 different sets, Foose, Boyds and Forze.
It's your car, do what you want.

[mrjones]

[QUOTE=jwibbity;1139426]

i already have my mine set on it.



"A mine is a terrible thing to waste..."

[TUXrauder]

Hey,

Saw this on another thread just this am...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3162549/2003-mercury-marauder

he has 24" with no mods. to fit.

Maybe this guy could offer some valueable info....

good luck...

Rog

[SC Cheesehead]

Hey,

Saw this on another thread just this am...

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3162549/2003-mercury-marauder

he has 24" with no mods. to fit.

Maybe this guy could offer some valueable info....

good luck...

Rog


What's with the bag of snakes under the hood? ;)

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2651/989/31625494061_large.jpg

[Blackened300a]

What's with the bag of snakes under the hood? ;)

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2651/989/31625494061_large.jpg

Yeah really. :shake:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/2aa18f59.jpg

[TUXrauder]

Keep your eye on the ball (I mean wheels).....

thought maybe he had a run in with.... (man i can't even come up with something on that one..)

Is that Red of Pink?????

[LJ on 24's]

I put 24 on my car 255/30/24 all the way around I put spacers up front and raised the height sensors just a lil bit in the back. My rims are 24x8.5 front and back no scrub or rub. I turn traction control off at start up. I also took my car to have my wheels high speed balance after that she rides smooth as the stock wheels.

[SC Cheesehead]

Keep your eye on the ball (I mean wheels).....

thought maybe he had a run in with.... (man i can't even come up with something on that one..)

Is that Red of Pink?????

Looks like both, can't say it does anything for me...:rolleyes:

[TUXrauder]

I know there has to be some kinda comment about pink under the hood.....

Just friday after lunch and my mind shut down, ON MONDAY!!!!


:lol:

[jwibbity]

I put 24 on my car 255/30/24 all the way around I put spacers up front and raised the height sensors just a lil bit in the back. My rims are 24x8.5 front and back no scrub or rub. I turn traction control off at start up. I also took my car to have my wheels high speed balance after that she rides smooth as the stock wheels.

if i put 25 series tires on the front and 30 series on the back is that a 3% difference so i wouldnt have to cut off traction control???

and how big are spacers, 1.5"??

[jwibbity]

and another question what is the factory offset on the stocks??

[jwibbity]

i just found this article on upsizing wheel and tires and it showed that from 15" wheels to 19" wheels the braking distance actually decreased from 130ft to 126ft, so why would i need to upgrade brakes for bigger wheels?? is there a point where it stop decreasing braking distance and start increasing again????

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/effects-of-upsized-wheels-and-tires-tested

[TUXrauder]

:coffee::coffee::coffee::coffe e::coffee::coffee::coffee:

Couldn't find the guy eating popcorn.... coffee next closests....

[TUXrauder]

:popcorn:

Found him....

and patiently waiting someones response....

[Billy]

i just found this article on upsizing wheel and tires and it showed that from 15" wheels to 19" wheels the braking distance actually decreased from 130ft to 126ft, so why would i need to upgrade brakes for bigger wheels?? is there a point where it stop decreasing braking distance and start increasing again????

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/effects-of-upsized-wheels-and-tires-tested

That chart is misleading and the article is confusing.
The simple facts are that with greater rotational mass, you WILL need greater braking power to make it stop.

[DarkCloud03]

I've had both 22" and 24" rims with absolutely no mods, just bolted them right up and actually lowered the rear a touch. The key is finding a rim with the right offset and your going to have to go with "rubber band" tires. The 24's DID rub in the front with sharp turning, they DO negatively affect stopping and ride quality and with such thin sidewalls you will most likely bend a rim at some point in time no matter how careful you drive. Try to find yourself a good quality wheel.$$$

[marauder410]

yea i def dont like this at all too muchhh not a very good look love the tinted healights and the rims not to bad



Yeah really. :shake:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d12/blackened300a/2aa18f59.jpg

[Marauder Rick]

22's in 2006
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v239/220/68/698892845/n698892845_684787_3055.jpg

24's in 2008
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v239/220/68/698892845/n698892845_684773_2031.jpg

After Eaton went on in 2010, Dubs came off, staggered 20's.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283871_141952605885246_1000021 15213202_270707_8031226_n.jpg

[2,4shofast]

Rick I still love the 24's you picked out, I still have the pics of your car on the parking garage!

[jwibbity]

would it be a problem running 24X9's in the front??? has anybody had 9" wide wheels in the front with any issues??

[GetMeMyStogie]

That chart is misleading and the article is confusing.
The simple facts are that with greater rotational mass, you WILL need greater braking power to make it stop.

Marginally. You'd need greater braking power just by adding a passenger. A few extra pounds around each wheel won't be noticed much.

That is, as long as the stock tire diameter is maintained.

If the tire used is much larger than the stock diameter, now the torque applied to the brakes by the moving mass of the vehicle will be increased significantly, and then you'll notice an increase in braking distance.

With a 24" rim, you'd have just about 3.3" inches of remaining diameter remaining to maintain stock front tire diameter (of 27.3" iirc). That means a tire with a sidewall of 1.65". Is that even possible? If not possible, or not desired, it means, a taller sidewall, which means an increase in tire diameter, and that will lead to decreased braking effectiveness.

[Marauder Rick]

would it be a problem running 24X9's in the front??? has anybody had 9" wide wheels in the front with any issues??

The ones in post #36 are 24x9 all around. not sure exactly what the offset was but they were bought brand new so the company knew which offset to send me.

[Smalldogg/03mm]

What's with the bag of snakes under the hood? ;)

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2651/989/31625494061_large.jpg

Now this is how big rims(22,24,) should sit on a MM.. These rims sit flush with the car.. Not sticking out.. That makes our look like a low rider:(... Car looks dam good...

[jwibbity]

The ones in post #36 are 24x9 all around. not sure exactly what the offset was but they were bought brand new so the company knew which offset to send me.

i only asked because its kinda hard finding staggered 24's with 8.5" in the front, most are 9"

[marauder410]

I love those 22' you got there im a big fan in chrome rims i like with a little black in it ot match but i look the look of those 22' there niceee im gonna get me a set of 24' 90% chrome with a bit of black in it for my black mm cant waittt





22's in 2006
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v239/220/68/698892845/n698892845_684787_3055.jpg

24's in 2008
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-ash1/v239/220/68/698892845/n698892845_684773_2031.jpg

after eaton went on in 2010, dubs came off, staggered 20's.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/283871_141952605885246_1000021 15213202_270707_8031226_n.jpg