What grades are "middle school"?

[CBT]

I'm guessing too young to have found this:

http://goo.gl/l7Eqe

I've heard of strippers working thier way thru law school, but who porns thier way thru teacher school?

[marauder410]

thats good stuff right there and thats a pretty hot teacher if i was the student i would of used that for black mail and got a A in that class and maybe a litttle extra credit on the sidee you feeelll meeee :lol:

[DOOM]

Stupid red boxes!!! :argh:

:toss:

[Shaijack]

I bet she was a great teacher. What the hell is a middle school kid doing watching that stuff. They should punish them not her. She was only trying to get to a better life of hard work and making ends meat.

[CBT]

I bet she was a great teacher. What the hell is a middle school kid doing watching that stuff. They should punish them not her. She was only trying to get to a better life of hard work and making ends meat.

Afraid to ask if typo....

[justbob]

Total crap! They should penalize the kids! Is she not to have a personal life, or a past???

[05crownsport]

Sounds like she has some free advertising right there! Time to get back on the horse...so to speak.

Another example of kids doing something their not supposed to and getting away with it! I NEVER looked directly at that kind of stuff as a teenage boy. I used a mirror! :bandit:

[marauder21]

Lmfao!! Isn't this any Boys fantasy? No oh ok haha...

[Fosters]

Afraid to ask if typo....

:lol:

Good catch. Why did I always have cranky old hags as teachers, and not a single one of these? I bet I would have ditched class less :o

[Shaijack]

Not a typo. Someone sent me her vids if your heart is strong enough I will send them to you. She is a very talented teacher. I can email them to you. She could teach PE or Gym. Flexable too.

[lji372]

What straight kid would turn her in...
Lmao at typo

[PonyUP]

Not a typo. Someone sent me her vids if your heart is strong enough I will send them to you. She is a very talented teacher. I can email them to you. She could teach PE or Gym. Flexable too.

Subscribing, I'd like to see her lesson plan


Pony seal of Approval

[CBT]

Not a typo. Someone sent me her vids if your heart is strong enough I will send them to you. She is a very talented teacher. I can email them to you. She could teach PE or Gym. Flexable too.
What about anatomy? Nevermind, I'll be the judge. You have a PM. :P

[guspech750]

Not a typo. Someone sent me her vids if your heart is strong enough I will send them to you. She is a very talented teacher. I can email them to you. She could teach PE or Gym. Flexable too.

Ummmm. Yeah. Send away like last week.


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[Marauderman]

I bet she was a great teacher. What the hell is a middle school kid doing watching that stuff. They should punish them not her. She was only trying to get to a better life of hard work and making ends meat.





Afraid to ask if typo....


uh....no type-o,,but the ends did meet.....ya think.................someone had to say it...........carry on

[duhtroll]

Seriously, any teacher can be fired for "moral conduct violations" or whatever it is called in your state.

All those people who think unions keep teachers from being fired, look it up. The moral code *should* be used for things like helping to prevent student abuse or improper conduct with a student. But it unfairly goes much further than that.

To answer the above question, no, teachers are not allowed a private life even if the actions took place years prior to teaching.

Teachers are not allowed to be seen in a bar or at a party that serves alcohol in the town where I teach. Nevermind that it is perfectly legal and harmless in most cases. It is one of the reasons I don't live in the town in which I teach. I don't want to live in a glass bowl.

An acquaintance of mine was fired because someone else'e facebook page had a picture of him holding a cup of beer at a party while in college, before ever obtaining his teaching license. The school board fired him because they said it sends the wrong message to students. He wasn't even the subject of the photo, just in the background.

The public outcry is that teachers should be held to higher standard than everyone else because they work with children, as if work and private life cannot be separated, ever. Yet when it comes to most of those teachers achieving that higher standard, they are told their salary and benefits are too high. :rolleyes:

I almost got in trouble once too. I was at the track racing my MM one Friday night and some of my students were there also. The track decided to have a "flag girl" contest where inevitably the winner, decided by applause, flashes the most skin -- usually topless or more.

I had to leave after only a couple passes -- at the track not the girls. My students could not see me there even if it was a public place and I had no control over the actions of others. It could end my career through no fault of my own.

I say more power to this girl. IF the business is legal, there should be no reason to keep her from teaching if she does a good job.

[CBT]

Seriously, any teacher can be fired for "moral conduct violations" or whatever it is called in your state.

All those people who think unions keep teachers from being fired, look it up. The moral code *should* be used for things like helping to prevent student abuse or improper conduct with a student. But it unfairly goes much further than that.

To answer the above question, no, teachers are not allowed a private life even if the actions took place years prior to teaching.

Teachers are not allowed to be seen in a bar or at a party that serves alcohol in the town where I teach. Nevermind that it is perfectly legal and harmless in most cases. It is one of the reasons I don't live in the town in which I teach. I don't want to live in a glass bowl.

An acquaintance of mine was fired because someone else'e facebook page had a picture of him holding a cup of beer at a party while in college, before ever obtaining his teaching license. The school board fired him because they said it sends the wrong message to students. He wasn't even the subject of the photo, just in the background.

The public outcry is that teachers should be held to higher standard than everyone else because they work with children, as if work and private life cannot be separated, ever. Yet when it comes to most of those teachers achieving that higher standard, they are told their salary and benefits are too high. :rolleyes:

I almost got in trouble once too. I was at the track racing my MM one Friday night and some of my students were there also. They decided to have a "flag girl" contest where inevitably the winner, decided by applause, flashes the most skin -- usually topless or more.

I had to leave after only a couple passes -- at the track not the girls. My students could not see me there even if it was a public place and I had no control over the actions of others. It could end my career through no fault of my own.

I say more power to this girl. IF the business is legal, there should be no reason to keep her from teaching if she does a good job.

That is straight up crazy, man.

[tbone]

I guess I better shelve my dream of becoming a teacher!!!! :depress: (Because of my porno star past)

[Haggis]

That is straight up crazy, man.

That is Big Brother.

[Cheeseheadbob]

More like a bunch of PhD pinheads sitting around the Board of Ed, reading and regurgitating a "Political Correctness for Dummies" publication...:shake: I guess you could qualify the Board of Ed as Big Brother...:shake:
That is Big Brother.

[Bluerauder]

More like a bunch of PhD pinheads sitting around the Board of Ed, reading and regurgitating a "Political Correctness for Dummies" publication...:shake:

Exactly .... either that or Iowa is more backward than I thought. :rolleyes:

[duhtroll]

It ain't just Iowa. Where is the case in question? It is there too and in some form, everywhere else.

Even if it weren't in existence, all a school board has to do is write a policy and implement it retroactively. This case is retroactive to the time before she was a teacher, after all.



Exactly .... either that or Iowa is more backward than I thought. :rolleyes:

[Bluerauder]

It ain't just Iowa. Where is the case in question? It is there too and in some form, everywhere else.

Even if it weren't in existence, all a school board has to do is write a policy and implement it retroactively. This case is retroactive to the time before she was a teacher, after all.

I don't doubt what you say. But it is very doubtful that the policy could stand up in court based on the couple examples that you provided. Now whether the individual elected not to take the case to court because of expense or other reasons, that is another story.

Simply being in a bar or being seen at a party with a drink is not illegal. Being in an old photo with a drink is not illegal either. Going to the racetrack where they might have Wet T-Shirt nite is likewise not illegal. Nor do any of these activities in and of themselves reflect on the character of the individual.

Now, dancing while drunk and nude on the bar is a different story. Being so drunk and obnoxius that requires police intervention is also a problem. So does being a participant in the nude activities at the track. That reflects directly on character. The woman in the subject of this thread elected to supplement her income. She forgot the admonition to "Choose Wisely".

It seems that this "Zero Tolerance" perspective in schools has prompted a complete and total lack of a common sense approach to situations like this.


I'm guessing too young to have found this:

You would be guessing wrong and it is happening much earlier than 6th grade .... sometimes back to 3rd grade --- 8 or 9 years old or even earlier. Its just a Google search away and information spreads like wildfire among kids.

[FF1077]

As a single parent let me tell you there is one thing you are all overlooking!

Parent Teacher Conferences.

:banana:

[duhtroll]

I don't doubt what you say. But it is very doubtful that the policy could stand up in court based on the couple examples that you provided. Now whether the individual elected not to take the case to court because of expense or other reasons, that is another story.

Court? There is no court! :laugh: School boards can fire people based upon contract restrictions they impose. If something becomes a board policy it is now post facto part of the contract. Other things like the yearly calendar can be added after the fact, too. Like when you schedule a vacation during normally non-school days and then they change the dates. Sorry, buckaroo. You take those days unpaid or show up to work.

It doesn't even matter should you prevail in court (which by the way means you have already been fired and have to find another job nearby and defend yourself for a year or three waiting for a ruling in your favor) - your career is over until you move far enough away that no one has heard of you, and with google that is much more difficult now that just a few years ago.


Simply being in a bar or being seen at a party with a drink is not illegal. Being in an old photo with a drink is not illegal either. Going to the racetrack where they might have Wet T-Shirt nite is likewise not illegal. Nor do any of these activities in and of themselves reflect on the character of the individual.

You are absolutely correct. And to follow that I say, "so what? They can still fire you." Legal activities for an adult and what is covered under the morality clause are different.

Lets say I want to take a part time job outside of teaching during the summer (I already have two other jobs, but they are "moral ones" I guess). I likely can't take a job as a bartender or anything involving the adult entertainment industry - even if it is video rentals sometimes including porn.


Now, dancing while drunk and nude on the bar is a different story. Being so drunk and obnoxius that requires police intervention is also a problem. So does being a participant in the nude activities at the track. That reflects directly on character. The woman in the subject of this thread elected to supplement her income. She forgot the admonition to "Choose Wisely".

I am assuming the activity she participated in was legal, so it shouldn't affect her career now, yet it does.


It seems that this "Zero Tolerance" perspective in schools has prompted a complete and total lack of a common sense approach to situations like this.

Yep. On school trips the only ones drinking are the students. ;)

I wouldn't even care about the zero tolerance since I have very little to hide in that regard, EXCEPT that is is being meted out by hypocrites. The most outspoken members of society against anything "moral" are usually the most egregious violators in private.

[Bluerauder]

Court? There is no court! :laugh: School boards can fire people based upon contract restrictions they impose.

Not all contract clauses are legal, valid and binding. Sounds like the one you are under might contain some with questionable restrictions that violate your Civil Rights as an individual. Or its the interpretation of those clauses that may be questionable. Guess that they have never been challenged in court. Regardless of what you may think ^^^^^ .... the School Board is NOT the end of the line on those decisions. JMHO.

[duhtroll]

Not all contract clauses are legal, valid and binding. Sounds like the one you are under might contain some with questionable restrictions that violate your Civil Rights as an individual. Or its the interpretation of those clauses that may be questionable. Guess that they have never been challenged in court. Regardless of what you may think ^^^^^ .... the School Board is NOT the end of the line on those decisions. JMHO.



Right, and I said as much, above. But I also stated this next part.

Any fighting in court is done after the fact.

The sequence of events is the board fires you THEN your appeal can go through and it can take up to 2-3 years for the process. *IF* you have the money to stick it out in court and win the appeal, you will get a cash settlement after the fact, but you still likely won't have the same job.

You still have this firing over your head during that appeal process, so GFL getting another teaching job to pay the bills in the interim.

When wrongful dismissal is challenged, it rarely results in things being put back the way they were and/or should be. It destroys careers even if you win.

EDIT: And this is more prevalent in the U.S than in just my contract. I bet in most places you will find an interpretation somewhere that allows a Board the latitude to dismiss teachers for otherwise legal activities.

[Bluerauder]

Right, and I said as much, above. But I also stated this next part.

Any fighting in court is done after the fact.

The sequence of events is the board fires you THEN your appeal can go through and it can take up to 2-3 years for the process. *IF* you have the money to stick it out in court and win the appeal, you will get a cash settlement after the fact, but you still likely won't have the same job.

You still have this firing over your head during that appeal process, so GFL getting another teaching job to pay the bills in the interim.

When wrongful dismissal is challenged, it rarely results in things being put back the way they were and/or should be. It destroys careers even if you win.

EDIT: And this is more prevalent in the U.S than in just my contract. I bet in most places you will find an interpretation somewhere that allows a Board the latitude to dismiss teachers for otherwise legal activities.

Agreed on all ^^^^^ points. But someone has to be FIRST to challenge a system that abuses its employees. It may not overturn YOUR case; but it quite possibly could fix it for those AFTER you. I guess that is kinda 'idealistic" on my part.