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jabird56
04-25-2012, 04:48 AM
Here we go again!...

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/04/24/are-drivers-ready-for-big-brother-car-insurance-plans/?test=latestnews

TooManyFords
04-25-2012, 04:54 AM
You really need to stop watching Fox News. :P

jabird56
04-25-2012, 05:01 AM
You really need to stop watching Fox News. :P

And GOOD Morning to you John.

Bigdogjim
04-25-2012, 07:22 AM
For me it's no big deal. They (the Company's) have software like this in bus & truck's. Some bus companys send a message to a the driver when they set off a flag in the dispatchers computer. (speeding, way off route, idle issues, even engine code's)

Ozark Marauder
04-25-2012, 07:31 AM
Big Brother Is coming, you are so correct....:help:

A bill already passed by the Senate and set to be rubber stamped by the House would make it mandatory for all new cars in the United States to be fitted with black box data recorders from 2015 onwards.

Section 31406 of Senate Bill 1813 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text) (known as MAP-21), calls for “Mandatory Event Data Recorders” to be installed in all new automobiles and legislates for civil penalties to be imposed against individuals for failing to do so

Although the text of legislation states that such data would remain the property of the owner of the vehicle, the government would have the power to access it in a number of circumstances, including by court order, if the owner consents to make it available, and pursuant to an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation.


Given the innumerable examples of both government and industry illegally using supposedly privacy-protected information to spy on individuals, this represents the slippery slope to total Big Brother surveillance of every American’s transport habits and location data.


The legislation, which has been given the Orwellian title ‘Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’, sailed through the Senate after being heavily promoted by Democrats Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer and is also expected to pass the Republican-controlled House.

The push to pressure car manufacturers to install black box tracking devices in all new cars has been ongoing for over a decade. In 2006, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration encouraged but did not require (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/12/business/12toyota.html) automobile manufacturers to install the systems.


However, in February last year NHTSA administrator David Strickland said the government was considering making the technology mandatory in the wake of recalls of millions of Toyota vehicles.


Earlier this year it was reported (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-01-20/news/30649246_1_electronic-throttle-control-systems-problems-in-toyota-vehicles-nhtsa) that the NHTSA would soon formally announce that all new cars would be mandated to have the devices fitted by law, which has now been codified into the MAP-21 bill.

OZ

MrBluGruv
04-25-2012, 07:44 AM
"He says US drivers, too, are becoming more accustomed to giving up their privacy if they can see the benefits."

This quote bothers me. It's either complete ******** made up to advance the story (totally plausible in accordance with today's journalism "ethics"), or is an indicator that we are for sure ****ed if people really feel this way (also entirely plausible, sadly).

Ozark Marauder
04-25-2012, 07:58 AM
"He says US drivers, too, are becoming more accustomed to giving up their privacy if they can see the benefits."

This quote bothers me. It's either complete ******** made up to advance the story (totally plausible in accordance with today's journalism "ethics"), or is an indicator that we are for sure ****ed if people really feel this way (also entirely plausible, sadly).

Back round on the guy who wrote that quote,

Ed Kim, Vice President, Industry Analysis: Ed is an experienced automotive industry expert. After starting his career with Hertz Corporation, he served seven years at AutoPacific as product analyst, and later as Product Analysis Manager, specializing in market research and consulting projects relating to future automotive products. Ed is also a journalist writing for various automotive publications.


In 2004, Ed joined Hyundai Motor America as Manager, Advanced Product Development and Strategy. In this role, he used expertise in social trending to increase company focus on future consumer needs-based product concept development. His broad understanding for automotive design, architecture, and ideation led to groundbreaking cross-functional work with Hyundai’s design, engineering, and marketing areas, resulting in numerous advanced and brand-extending vehicle programs. Ed holds a B.A. in Psychology from the University of California, Riverside.

OZ

Fosters
04-25-2012, 09:35 AM
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05crownsport
04-25-2012, 06:59 PM
And on a daily basis I will drive my 1981 rabbit diesel truck! Stick all that electronic watchdog BS where the sun don't shine uncle sam!