headlight acting up FBM help please

[marauder410]

recently sometimes my headlights will not come on and i will have to click them on and off a couple times.

so my guess is my LCM is going up on me and a simple and easy fix and also very common on the panthers.

last week i fixed the o-rings in the EATC a common problem later and now the LCM need repaired

my MM is my daily driver so i need this fixed ASAP

so got to get in contact with FBM to send me a repaired unit and then i could send mine out of my car to him, i think that was one of the two options he gave to members here

FBM

[marauder410]

i see repaired units on ebay for 50.00 but hoping to find a cheaper route by going through FBM

[fastblackmerc]

I offer 2 options.

1. Send me your LCM, I repair it and send it back the same day I receive it. Cost - $50.00

2. Send me $250.00 via PayPal. I send you a repaired LCM. When I get your LCM back I refund $200.00 to your PayPal account.

I guaranty my repair as long as the car is running.

[marauder410]

50.00 i seen many of forums saying 25.00?:confused:

for 50.00 i can buy a repaired unit and save money since id have to pay for shipping cost to you and then wait a week to get it back. also wouldnt be able to drive the car or at least at night

pay staright 50.00 and get one to my door and dont have to wait to recive it back so i guess thats the way im gonna have to go i guess :depress:

[marauder410]

Originally Posted by Georges93LX http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=862814#post86 2814)
There is a heavy duty relay available as I have one enroute to me now. It will replace the original on the CB. It was $11.47 + shipping and I get to put it in. The original part from Mouser was on backorder for 16 weeks and another company didn't have any idea when they would have any replacement relays available. If you don't know what you're doing I suggest you send your LCM to fastblackmerc (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1670) for the $25.00 special. If your relay is not acting up be ready for it. It's not "IF" but "WHEN".

thats cool i guess i dont get the same treatment as every1 else :shake:

[Odinson]

Originally Posted by Georges93LX http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=862814#post86 2814)
There is a heavy duty relay available as I have one enroute to me now. It will replace the original on the CB. It was $11.47 + shipping and I get to put it in. The original part from Mouser was on backorder for 16 weeks and another company didn't have any idea when they would have any replacement relays available. If you don't know what you're doing I suggest you send your LCM to fastblackmerc (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1670) for the $25.00 special. If your relay is not acting up be ready for it. It's not "IF" but "WHEN".

thats cool i guess i dont get the same treatment as every1 else :shake:

Nope price was $50 a few months ago when he sent me mine. Did the $250 and he was fast with the refund.

It was preemptive. Stock headlights are significantly brighter now. :beer:

[Mebot]

Yeah same here FBM check your pms or head over to the shop talk forum & click on the starter issue thread. I have some LCM issues going on as well

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[Spectragod]

90 cent relay, you can fix it yourself if you have the ability, if not, you will be paying someone for "their" time and knowledge.

[ctrlraven]

That $50 ebay fix makes the LCM like factory which means it could and probably will fail again. FBM's repair upgrades the failing part with a heavier duty piece to withstand time and use, plus it's an upgraded piece of what the stock one is.

[SC Cheesehead]

That $50 ebay fix makes the LCM like factory which means it could and probably will fail again. FBM's repair upgrades the failing part with a heavier duty piece to withstand time and use, plus it's an upgraded piece of what the stock one is.

Yup.

Jim fixed mine a couple years back, and no issues since.

IIRC, the $50 charge for Jim's repair includes shipping, doesn't it?

[fastblackmerc]

Yup.

Jim fixed mine a couple years back, and no issues since.

IIRC, the $50 charge for Jim's repair includes shipping, doesn't it?

Yes, includes return shipping.

[fastblackmerc]

90 cent relay, you can fix it yourself if you have the ability, if not, you will be paying someone for "their" time and knowledge.

And that 90 cent relay WILL fail again.

[fastblackmerc]

That $50 ebay fix makes the LCM like factory which means it could and probably will fail again. FBM's repair upgrades the failing part with a heavier duty piece to withstand time and use, plus it's an upgraded piece of what the stock one is.

That is correct.

[fastblackmerc]

Originally Posted by Georges93LX http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=862814#post86 2814)
There is a heavy duty relay available as I have one enroute to me now. It will replace the original on the CB. It was $11.47 + shipping and I get to put it in. The original part from Mouser was on backorder for 16 weeks and another company didn't have any idea when they would have any replacement relays available. If you don't know what you're doing I suggest you send your LCM to fastblackmerc (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1670) for the $25.00 special. If your relay is not acting up be ready for it. It's not "IF" but "WHEN".

thats cool i guess i dont get the same treatment as every1 else :shake:

You are getting treated like everyone else.

I haven't done a $25.00 LCM repair for a long long time.

[fastblackmerc]

50.00 i seen many of forums saying 25.00?:confused:

for 50.00 i can buy a repaired unit and save money since id have to pay for shipping cost to you and then wait a week to get it back. also wouldnt be able to drive the car or at least at night

pay staright 50.00 and get one to my door and dont have to wait to recive it back so i guess thats the way im gonna have to go i guess :depress:

You can do what you want....

What kind of warranty are you getting?

I guess you didn't read or understand the $250.00 option that would get you a repaired LCM in 2 days. :shake::shake:

[fastblackmerc]

Yeah same here FBM check your pms or head over to the shop talk forum & click on the starter issue thread. I have some LCM issues going on as well

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge

Sorry I didn't rely to your PM immediately.........

I happened to be on a flight from Atlanta to San Francisco.

PM replied to.

[RF Overlord]

marauder410, either the person you quoted was misinformed, or that was an old thread. I had FBM send me one of his modified LCMs at least a year ago and it was $50 then. Jim is a 100% stand-up guy who has helped many members here.

[Mebot]

Sorry I didn't rely to your PM immediately.........

I happened to be on a flight from Atlanta to San Francisco.

PM replied to.

No worries, I replied back! Thanks and I will tackle the removal of the LCM hopefully this weekend or sooner if possible.

[Spectragod]

And that 90 cent relay WILL fail again.

It may, in my opinion, either fix is good. My point was...... if he can't fix it, then he will have to pay someone for their knowledge and ability.

[Ozark Marauder]

No worries, I replied back! Thanks and I will tackle the removal of the LCM hopefully this weekend or sooner if possible.

A little help, in case you don't know, courtesy of fastblacmerc. I used these instructions, took 20 minutes.

LCM Removal:

The LCM is about the size of a brick and is located just to the right of the steering column, in front of the gas pedal.

There are 3 electrical connectors on the LCM.

Remove the bottom two connectors by depressing the tabs and pulling on the connectors.

Remove the 2 mounting screws with a 7mm nut driver or socket.

Push the LCM towards the gas pedal while rotating it up towards the roof. Once it’s free of the bracket, pull the back of the LCM down towards the floor.

You should now be able to release the last electrical connector.

Just reverse the steps for reinstallation.

If I installed the external relay, use one of the 7mm screws to secure the external relay to the LCM bracket, or the enclosed nylon tie.

OZ

[IwantmyMMnow!]

Jim repaired my LCM one year ago yesterday...best $50 I spent. $50 is better than what others have paid (at least 10 times that amount) to get a 'new' LCM with the same problem. You'd be hard-pressed to find a better deal, unless you did it yourself. The only thing that's working against you is distance...you're in MD, he's in NC...so having it done immediately is not a possibility. I drove to Wilmington, NC, to meet Jim to have this done; while he was on vacation visiting his daughter.

If you find a cheaper way to have this fix done with a lifetime guarantee, I imagine that by the time you find such a deal, you would've already had a repaired LCM from FBM and in your car...

[SC Cheesehead]

A little help, in case you don't know, courtesy of fastblacmerc. I used these instructions, took 20 minutes.

LCM Removal:

The LCM is about the size of a brick and is located just to the right of the steering column, in front of the gas pedal.

There are 3 electrical connectors on the LCM.

Remove the bottom two connectors by depressing the tabs and pulling on the connectors.

Remove the 2 mounting screws with a 7mm nut driver or socket.

Push the LCM towards the gas pedal while rotating it up towards the roof. Once it’s free of the bracket, pull the back of the LCM down towards the floor.

You should now be able to release the last electrical connector.

Just reverse the steps for reinstallation.

If I installed the external relay, use one of the 7mm screws to secure the external relay to the LCM bracket, or the enclosed nylon tie.

OZ


^^^^^^ If you're "super-sized" like me, add in the steps to remove and replace the driver's seat to gain under-dash access... :o

[fastblackmerc]

Just an FYI....

If you get a new LCM from the dealer you will eventually have the same problem. Dealer cost for the LCM and R & R is usually in the $500.00 - $600.00 range and the LCM WILL fail again.

If you replace the OEM relay with the same relay you will eventually have to replace it again. Yes the OEM relay is around $5.00, but you'll have to replace it again and again and again. The same goes for the "repaired" eBay LCM's and the Cardone LCM's. If you replace the crappy OEM relay with the same crappy relay...... well, you know the rest of the story.

I've repaired over 125 LCM's... with one complaint...... but he didn't want to work with me to resolve it.

Gee..... maybe I should charge $300.00 for my repaired LCM's with a lifetime of the car guarantee...... I'd make a bunch of money and you'd still get a deal if you took it to the dealer for repair.......




















Don't worry I'd never do that.

My offer still stands - If you buy anything from me and get to my house I'll install it free.... that's right no labor charge. I even charge less cause I won't have to ship it.

[Mebot]

A little help, in case you don't know, courtesy of fastblacmerc. I used these instructions, took 20 minutes.

LCM Removal:

The LCM is about the size of a brick and is located just to the right of the steering column, in front of the gas pedal.

There are 3 electrical connectors on the LCM.

Remove the bottom two connectors by depressing the tabs and pulling on the connectors.

Remove the 2 mounting screws with a 7mm nut driver or socket.

Push the LCM towards the gas pedal while rotating it up towards the roof. Once it’s free of the bracket, pull the back of the LCM down towards the floor.

You should now be able to release the last electrical connector.

Just reverse the steps for reinstallation.

If I installed the external relay, use one of the 7mm screws to secure the external relay to the LCM bracket, or the enclosed nylon tie.

OZ


Thanks for the info OZ, I appreciate it! FBM sent me instructions so I think I'm well equipped to handle the installation!

FBM, I wish i was going down to NC to take advantage of your labor-free rate. I have family in Southport. Not sure how far away that is. Unfortunately, not heading down there anytime soon. Dagger

[Mebot]

Stupid question but once I remove the lcm will I be able to use my headlights? I am just thinking of the couple days while being repaired any night driving may anticipate... Thanks

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[ctrlraven]

No LCM, no lights. Unless you borrowed someone else's for the mean while.

[Mebot]

No LCM, no lights. Unless you borrowed someone else's for the mean while.

Gotcha. Can I borrow your lcm plz:p

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[ctrlraven]

Gotcha. Can I borrow your lcm plz:p

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Sure, providing you find someone for me to borrow their's as well. lol

[Rockettman]

You can borrow mine Chris.

$200 shipping from Toronto, and you should have it in about a week.

Oh...

and I'll need it back after. (another $200 for ya) :)

[MrBluGruv]

The hardest part of the job when I did mine was getting the LCM out of the car. Good lord is that thing wedged in there funny. The solder job is relatively easy if you've had experience soldering before, but I seem to remember they used that **** solder that takes a lot more work to get flowing.

Even without being a customer of FBM, I have seen the pictures of his work, and not only have like none of his LCM repairs failed from what I've read on here, but his fix is CLEAN. I took inspiration from his work when I repaired mine, the guy just knows what he's doing. If you can park the car for a day or two while you wait for a replacement/repair (that was the reason I repaired mine myself, I couldn't), $50 total is a damn good deal for something you'll never have to worry about again, especially for such a crucial part of the vehicle's operation, unless you never drive at night, or through tunnels, or in rain.....

[fastblackmerc]

Stupid question but once I remove the lcm will I be able to use my headlights? I am just thinking of the couple days while being repaired any night driving may anticipate... Thanks

Sent from my Samsung Droid Charge

Once you disconnect the LCM you will have ONLY brake lights...... no headlights, no turn signals, no fog lights, no front or rear marker lights, no interior lights, etc.

I do offer a repaired LCM. You send me $250.00 via PayPal. I send you a repaired LCM, when I get your LCM back I refund $200.00. I used to only charge $150.00 for this option until I got burned by some guys not returning their LCM. The $200.00 core charge is what it would cost me to get another LCM.

BTW.... thanks to a couple of members that loaned me their spare LCMs.

[fastblackmerc]

The hardest part of the job when I did mine was getting the LCM out of the car. Good lord is that thing wedged in there funny. The solder job is relatively easy if you've had experience soldering before, but I seem to remember they used that **** solder that takes a lot more work to get flowing.

Even without being a customer of FBM, I have seen the pictures of his work, and not only have like none of his LCM repairs failed from what I've read on here, but his fix is CLEAN. I took inspiration from his work when I repaired mine, the guy just knows what he's doing. If you can park the car for a day or two while you wait for a replacement/repair (that was the reason I repaired mine myself, I couldn't), $50 total is a damn good deal for something you'll never have to worry about again, especially for such a crucial part of the vehicle's operation, unless you never drive at night, or through tunnels, or in rain.....

You really need to know what your doing when soldering the PCB board inside the LCM. You could ruin it. And yes the OEM relay is a BIOTCH to get out.

[vkirkend]

I paid the $250.00 to have mine fixed years ago and was happy to get it done. If you don't want to pay the price, then go somewhere else, don't bad mouth FBM because of limited knowledge on your part. And again the $50.00 includes shipping and a lifetime guarantee. I don't think you will find better anywhere....:shake:



Originally Posted by Georges93LX http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?p=862814#post86 2814)
There is a heavy duty relay available as I have one enroute to me now. It will replace the original on the CB. It was $11.47 + shipping and I get to put it in. The original part from Mouser was on backorder for 16 weeks and another company didn't have any idea when they would have any replacement relays available. If you don't know what you're doing I suggest you send your LCM to fastblackmerc (http://mercurymarauder.net/forums/member.php?u=1670) for the $25.00 special. If your relay is not acting up be ready for it. It's not "IF" but "WHEN".

thats cool i guess i dont get the same treatment as every1 else :shake:

[marauder410]

hey what are you talking about NO1 bad mouth FMB ive dealt with him on MANY occasions so know what your talking about when you jump info my forums buddy

[marauder410]

i got PLENTY knowledge and a soldering gun but DO NOT WANT to take the chance and acually a really good solderer but not risking reuining the whole circuit board

so im gonna let him do it for me and yes ive dealt with him on many occassions and never had any complaints over her. i corrected mysefl and it was my fault i wasent paying attention and read a 3 year old thread, it was ym mistake and opolgized to him for the misunderstanding

cant stand when people get in other business, if it dosent involve you then just stay out of it

[SC Cheesehead]

i got PLENTY knowledge and a soldering gun but DO NOT WANT to take the chance and acually a really good solderer but not risking reuining the whole circuit board

so im gonna let him do it for me and yes ive dealt with him on many occassions and never had any complaints over her. i corrected mysefl and it was my fault i wasent paying attention and read a 3 year old thread, it was ym mistake and opolgized to him for the misunderstanding

cant stand when people get in other business, if it dosent involve you then just stay out of it

Ah man, you know a couple of us are just yanking your chain a bit, no harm intended. ;)

+1 on the soldering job. The hardest part I had when I initially replaced my relay was getting the old one removed; like FBM sez, it can be tough (I even used one of those little suction thingies to remove the melted solder from the connection points on the board, and still had problems :mad2:).

Learned my lesson after the replacement relay failed and had it upgraded with a HD relay by FBM.

[ctrlraven]

hey what are you talking about NO1 bad mouth FMB ive dealt with him on MANY occasions so know what your talking about when you jump info my forums buddy
Your forums? LULZ

i got PLENTY knowledge and a soldering gun but DO NOT WANT to take the chance and acually a really good solderer but not risking reuining the whole circuit board

so im gonna let him do it for me and yes ive dealt with him on many occassions and never had any complaints over her. i corrected mysefl and it was my fault i wasent paying attention and read a 3 year old thread, it was ym mistake and opolgized to him for the misunderstanding

cant stand when people get in other business, if it dosent involve you then just stay out of it
Public forum, don't want people putting in their 2 cents, take the convo to private messaging then. I think you are getting a little defensive over nothing.

[marauder410]

people always got to put there two cents in why you think there is 2 websites now, thats my point some people just dont like geting messed with like that

[ctrlraven]

people always got to put there two cents in why you think there is 2 websites now, thats my point some people just dont like geting messed with like that
The "other site" has been around since 2005.

[IwantmyMMnow!]

people always got to put there two cents in why you think there is 2 websites now, thats my point some people just dont like geting messed with like that

Easiest fix....PM the person directly...eliminates the 'people that always have to put their two cents in'.

Most (if not all) of us are trying to help you out...there is no better/cheaper alternative to FBM's fix on the LCM (that I know of). Lifetime guarantee! If it should fail, he'll fix it for free! Over 100 repairs and I haven't heard of any of them failing yet...the man is that good...and you know this.

So much more can be said, but I'll keep my 2 cents...I need the money. Good luck with your fix, whichever route you decide to go. Just remember that we are here to help each other...even if it means tossing around a few pennies from time to time....

[screamn]

Jim:

I appreciate all the work/repair, services, and sales you've done for me. This includes the LCM and BCM you sent me.

Thank you very much for everything!!!!!

You always did whatever you could to answer my questions and concerns.

Also, answering my phone calls & PMs in a timely manner.......

You are the man!

I'll give you a 100% or A+ satisfaction guarantee.

I'M A SATISFIED CUSTOMER!!!!

[silverrauder]

I have the same issue with my Mercury Marauder what should i do

[silverrauder]

My headlights come on sometimes and sometimes they wont Please help

[silverrauder]

What is the LCM

[Mebot]

What is the LCM

Lighting Control Module. Its a big brick shaped object sits under your dash & controls lights

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[fastblackmerc]

I have the same issue with my Mercury Marauder what should i do

You should contact me via PM...

[fastblackmerc]

My headlights come on sometimes and sometimes they wont Please help

Contact me via PM. I have 3 repaired LCMs waiting to be shipped.

[fastblackmerc]

What is the LCM

LCM = Lighting Control Module, controls all the lights....

About the size of a brick and is located under the dash and to the right of the steering column.