Quickest stock Marauder ever?

[Chad1987]

So, I was curious. In terms of 0-60 and 1/4 mile acceleration, what is the fastest stock Marauder ever?

I'd like to believe it is the 2003-04 models, but with the 425hp 427, the early '60s models must be hard to top!

[tallpaul]

The Black '03 marauders are faster. That is a well known fact.

[Vostok]

The X-100 has been known to touch mid 15s in the quarter mile....relatively close to what this car does from the factory....luckily a tune has been established that puts the 03 04 model way ahead with no bolt ons.

[Bluerauder]

So, I was curious. In terms of 0-60 and 1/4 mile acceleration, what is the fastest stock Marauder ever?

This is one that I know of .... bone stock, no tune, no gears, no CAI or K&N .....

• “the fat bastid” ('03 MM 300a) wins 1st place competition trophy in full stock MM with time of 14.738 @ 95.37 (October 2004, Mason-Dixon Dragway, MD). He ran a "perfect" dial-in to take the trophy. Temps in the low 50s.

[Vortech347]

04's are faster, better tranny and a higher stall tq converter.

My 04 was almost a full second faster in the 1/4 than my 03. 16.0 vs 15.3. Only difference between the 2 cars was the 03 had 3.73's the 04 4.10's. But before I even did the gears the stock 04 felt way more ballsy than my modded 03.

[sailsmen]

Tripple Trans Am holds the record at 14.5.

[droppointalpha]

Heat soaked and at 1500' elevation, my straight stock at the Panther Nationals drag night at Ozark Raceway ran a 15.2 on my first ever launch at a drag strip. I dragged a lot that night so E/Ts never got lower (17 passes) but my launch technique did improve, shaving a few hundredths off the 60' time. My rear end was freshly rebuilt so the clutch pack was at best condition possible and the tires were 60% worn.

The whole night, I only lost traction on launch once (think I got tank water on the wheels and held the brake a fraction too long while giving it gas). I think a bone stock at sea level in modestly cool weather and good condition should run a 15.0 flat or less in good conditions without any modifications. To guarantee a 15.0 or less time, a tune is necessary. James' tuned and intake modded 03 MM that same night ran consistent sub 15.0 times.

[kirk]

So, I was curious. In terms of 0-60 and 1/4 mile acceleration, what is the fastest stock Marauder ever?

I'd like to believe it is the 2003-04 models, but with the 425hp 427, the early '60s models must be hard to top!

These are all of the times I have documented.

[Bluerauder]

04's are faster, better tranny and a higher stall tq converter.

My 04 was almost a full second faster in the 1/4 than my 03. 16.0 vs 15.3. Only difference between the 2 cars was the 03 had 3.73's the 04 4.10's. But before I even did the gears the stock 04 felt way more ballsy than my modded 03.


Something was wrong with your '03 MM to run a 16.0. H3LL I ran a 15.557 my first time down the track -- full trunk, 3/4 tank of gas, and zero experience at all and let off the gas 200 feet before I crossed the line. My trap speed was only about 81 MPH.

I still say that the difference between stock '03 and '04 MMs is miniscule. I ran heads up against an '04 MM .... no mods on either car. The difference over the course of the 1320 was less than 18 inches of gain by the '04 MM. Certainly not a full second. Probably not even a full 0.1 second.

BTW -- 18 inches at 92 MPH trap speed is a difference of 0.0111 seconds. Pretty insignificant difference IMHO.

[SC Cheesehead]

Something was wrong with your '03 MM to run a 16.0. H3LL I ran a 15.557 my first time down the track -- full trunk, 3/4 tank of gas, and zero experience at all and let off the gas 200 feet before I crossed the line. My trap speed was only about 81 MPH.

I still say that the difference between stock '03 and '04 MMs is miniscule. I ran heads up against an '04 MM .... no mods on either car. The difference over the course of the 1320 was less than 18 inches of gain by the '04 MM. Certainly not a full second. Probably not even a full 0.1 second.

BTW -- 18 inches at 92 MPH trap speed is a difference of 0.0111 seconds. Pretty insignificant difference IMHO.

^^^^^ That's about the same ET as my first time out at MVIV, and that was a warm, humid day.

[Chad1987]

Yeah, I always thought the stock 03-04 Marauders were good for a 15.0-15.5 in the quarter, depending on driver experience, ambient temperature and weight in the trunk.

[Chad1987]

These are all of the times I have documented.

Awesome! Exactly what I was looking for. Funny how those 63-64 Marauders with the 425hp 427 weren't much quicker than the 03-04's from 0-60, but ran a 13 second quarter mile. Almost makes you question the accuracy of the '60s era test equipment.

[BlackJack]

They also ran "ringers" in the sixties. A car would be specially prepared (ie blueprinted) and dropped off at the magazine to test. Chances are excellent a 427 Marauder did not have AC and was a 4 spd car and not heavily optioned for less weight. The times could have just been stolen from a 7.1 Liter Galaxie and published for the Marauder as well.

[Mr. Man]

Something was wrong with your '03 MM to run a 16.0. H3LL I ran a 15.557 my first time down the track -- full trunk, 3/4 tank of gas, and zero experience at all and let off the gas 200 feet before I crossed the line. My trap speed was only about 81 MPH.

I still say that the difference between stock '03 and '04 MMs is miniscule. I ran heads up against an '04 MM .... no mods on either car. The difference over the course of the 1320 was less than 18 inches of gain by the '04 MM. Certainly not a full second. Probably not even a full 0.1 second.

BTW -- 18 inches at 92 MPH trap speed is a difference of 0.0111 seconds. Pretty insignificant difference IMHO.I think the Crabmonster was just messin' wit you 'cause you was in a blue
:P:D

[SC Cheesehead]

Awesome! Exactly what I was looking for. Funny how those 63-64 Marauders with the 425hp 427 weren't much quicker than the 03-04's from 0-60, but ran a 13 second quarter mile. Almost makes you question the accuracy of the '60s era test equipment.

Keep in mind they were running bias ply tires and not much for suspsensions in those days, so it was pretty hard to get a stock car to hook off the line.

[sailsmen]

"Watched the Speed Channel last nite Muscle car shoot out. Legendary Motor Cars took the following vehicles as they came from the factory and here's what they did in 1/4 times;
1969 GTO Judge Stage 3 - 14.090
1970 Chevelle LS6 - 13.953
1970 Buick GS Stage 1 -13.960
AMX 390 GoPack - 14.848
1969 429 Boss Mustang - 13.743
1969 Hurst Olds - 13.828."

I drove/rode in a lot of these cars and car that ran in the 13's was very fast.

# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1997 Viper GTS 12.05@116 V10 450 six-speed 3.07 MM 8/97
2 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/65
3 1990 ZR1 Corvette 12.8@113.8 LT5 350 375 six-speed 3.45 MT 4/90
4 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 four-speed 3.36 CD 11/65
5 1969 Road Runner 12.91@111.8 440 Six BBL 390 four-speed 4.10 SS 6/69
6 1997 Hurst/Firebird 12.99@103.11 350 350 automatic 3.42 MCR 4/5 97
7 1970 Hemi Cuda 13.10@107.12 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/69
8 1992 Viper RT/10 13.1@108 488 V10 400 six-speed 3.07 CD 7/92
9 1970 Chevelle SS454 13.12@107.01 454 LS6 450 four-speed 3.55 CC 11/69
10 1969 Camaro 13.16@110.21 427 ZL1 430 four-speed 4.10 HC 6/69
11 1997 Corvette 13.20@109.3 350 LS-1 345 six-speed 3.42 MT 5/97
12 1997 SLP Camaro SS 13.20@108.8 350 LT4 330 six-speed 3.42 MT 2/97
13 1990 Pontiac Firehawk 13.20@107 350 350 six-speed 3.54 CD 6/91
14 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 four-speed 3.70 HC 5/68
15 1970 Road Runner 13.34@107.5 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
16 1970 Buick GS Stage I 13.38@105.5 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
17 1996 Camaro Z28 SS 13.46@106.48 350 LT-1 310 six-speed 3.42 MCR F/M 96
18 1969 Charger 500 13.48@109 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 4.10 HR 2/69
19 1973 Trans Am 13.54@104.29 455 SD 310 automatic 3.42 HR 6/73
20 1969 Corvette 13.56@111.1 427 L88 430 automatic 3.36 HR 4/69
21 1969 Super Bee 13.56@105.6 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 4.10 HR 8/69
22 1969 Boss 429 Mustang 13.60@106 Boss 429 375 four-speed 3.91 HC 9/69
23 1970 Challenger R/T 13.62@104.3 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 3.23 CC 11/69
24 1970 Torino Cobra 13.63@105.9 429 SCJ 370 automatic 3.91 SS 3/70
25 1968 Biscayne 13.65@105 427 L72 425 four-speed 4.56 SS 4/68
26 1995 Mustang Cobra R 13.67@102.82 351 300 five-speed 3.27 MCR A/S 95
27 1964 Polara 500 13.70@107.37 426 4V 365 four-speed 3.23 HC 2/64
28 1996 Corvette GS 13.7@105.1 350 LT-4 330 six-speed 3.45 RT 2/96
29 1969 GTX 13.70@102.8 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 MT 1/69
30 1987 Buick GNX 13.70@102 231 Turbo V6 300 automatic 3.42 HR 4/87
31 1969 Dart 440 13.71@105 440 4V 375 automatic 3.55 CC 5/69
32 1971 Road Runner 13.71@101.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CC 1/71
33 1971 Cuda 13.72@106 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 SS 4/71
34 1971 Corvette 13.72@102.04 454 LS6 450 four-speed 3.36 CL 8/71
35 1971 Super Bee 13.73@104 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 12/70
36 1968 Hurst/Olds 13.77@103.91 455 W-30 390 automatic 3.91 SS 8/68
37 1968 Firebird 13.79@106 400 HO 335 four-speed N/A HR 3/68
38 1967 Corvette 13.80@108 427 6V 435 four-speed 3.55 HR 5/67
39 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 13.80@104 Boss 351 330 four-speed 3.91 MT 1/71
40 1966 Satellite 13.81@104 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 3.54 CD 4/66
41 1969 Coronet R/T 13.83@102.27 440 4V 375 four-speed 4.10 SS 4/69
42 1968 Cyclone GT 13.86@101.69 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 8/68
43 1969 Nova SS 396 13.87@105.1 396 4V 375 automatic 3.55 HR 7/69
44 1969 Shelby GT-500 13.87@104.52 428 CJ 335 four-speed 3.91 SS 9/69
45 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 13.88@95.84 455 W-30 370 automatic 3.42 CC 11/69
46 1962 Corvette 13.89@105.14 327 FI 360 four-speed 4.10 HR 1/62
47 1969 Barracuda 13.89@103.21 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 SS 8/69
48 1969 Mustang Mach I 13.90@103.32 428 CJ 335 automatic 3.50 CL 3/69
49 1967 GTO 13.90@102.8 400 RA 360 automatic 4.33 CL 10/67
50 1970 Trans Am 13.90@102 400 RA 345 four-speed 3.91 HR 2/70
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[kirk]

Awesome! Exactly what I was looking for. Funny how those 63-64 Marauders with the 425hp 427 weren't much quicker than the 03-04's from 0-60, but ran a 13 second quarter mile. Almost makes you question the accuracy of the '60s era test equipment.

I was at the track when the 1964 427 clone ran the 13.29. It was at the Pure Stock Musclecar Drags. The car had a certified stock 427 in it. It was running 70 series bias ply tires and a Detroit Locker (not exactly stock). The 4.56 gears it was running could have been had from the factory. So while it was a little quicker than true stock, 13s were certainly possible.

[SC Cheesehead]

I was at the track when the 1964 427 clone ran the 13.29. It was at the Pure Stock Musclecar Drags. The car had a certified stock 427 in it. It was running 70 series bias ply tires and a Detroit Locker (not exactly stock). The 4.56 gears it was running could have been had from the factory. So while it was a little quicker than true stock, 13s were certainly possible.

Kirk,

4.56 gears with straight 4 speed, that FE must have been cranking some revs at the end of the 1/4 mile! That was a darn quick car back then (and still nothing to sneeze at nowadays, either).

What was the advertised HP of the 427? I'm thinking it was around 425, but I always figured that was understated.

[kirk]

Kirk,

4.56 gears with straight 4 speed, that FE must have been cranking some revs at the end of the 1/4 mile! That was a darn quick car back then (and still nothing to sneeze at nowadays, either).

What was the advertised HP of the 427? I'm thinking it was around 425, but I always figured that was understated.

425 HP for the dual 4V and 410 HP for the single 4V.

[breeze]

Slowest my Car ran was a 15.7 but was humid ass shyt. That night a srt8 charger ran a 14.x so hey. Fastest was 14.3 on small tires but 14.8 or 9 on 265s.

[SC Cheesehead]

425 HP for the dual 4V and 410 HP for the single 4V.


Good stuff. Thanks.

[Joe Walsh]

Keep in mind they were running bias ply tires and not much for suspsensions in those days, so it was pretty hard to get a stock car to hook off the line.


I was at the track when the 1964 427 clone ran the 13.29. It was at the Pure Stock Musclecar Drags. The car had a certified stock 427 in it. It was running 70 series bias ply tires and a Detroit Locker (not exactly stock). The 4.56 gears it was running could have been had from the factory. So while it was a little quicker than true stock, 13s were certainly possible.

Yep,
Imagine trying to launch a heavy 4 speed car, powered by a thumping 427 FE big block, with thin bias ply tires!

Modern radials are amazing compared to old bias ply tires.

I remember when I finally 'bit the bullet' and bought new radial tires for my '65 GT Mustang. (I was a poor college student at the time and had run the old bias ply tires down to cords!)
The difference in handling & traction was incredible!


As I drove off the tire store's lot my reaction was like this....:awe:


BTW: As someone else mentioned, I recall TripleTransAm running ridiculous ETs on a bone stock Marauder.

[Chad1987]

So, short answer, the 1963-64 427 Marauders were the quickest ever.

[kirk]

So, short answer, the 1963-65 427 Marauders were the quickest ever.

Absolutely.

They did make a 427 Marauder in 1965, but none are known to exist now.

[Vortech347]

Look at my altitude, I'm in Utah. Our DA is regularly 7500+

Nothing was wrong with the 03. Ran fine. Just didn't have any balls compared to the 04 I picked up.

The higher stall TQ converter makes a dif too.

[ctrlraven]

I ran a 14.81 stock which did not last long at all. :lol:

[WhatsUpDOHC]

Absolutely.

They did make a 427 Marauder in 1965, but none are known to exist now.

This would be a shame.

Let's get Wayne Carini on it!!



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[droppointalpha]

Look at my altitude, I'm in Utah. Our DA is regularly 7500+

Nothing was wrong with the 03. Ran fine. Just didn't have any balls compared to the 04 I picked up.

The higher stall TQ converter makes a dif too.


Perhaps just a poor tune for the altitude?