Failed Illinois Emissions

[Mest30]

As the title says...

According to the test, the result was rejected. Also according to the test, the following system options were "not supported." Comprensive opponent, engine misfire, cataltic converter eff, evaporative control system, heated oxygen sensor, secondary air system, fuel system performance, a/c refrigerant, egr flow, heated catalyst, and oxygen sensor.

I had just drove the car an hour home before the test with no issues. The car has no check engine light. So what does this all mean and how do I fix the problem. Seems to me that's its more of a test malfunction than the car. The car is the marauder in my sig. Thanks for any help.

[EMAS]

It is not a test malfunction, it's that you have a tune with all the OBD II monitors turned off. You need a tune with all those parameters turned on to pass. But even with that new tune you may have some work to do. As it sits you have no codes because the computer isn't running the tests to be able to set codes for those items. So once you've had it re-flashed you'll have to run the drive cycle until all of the monitors switch from "not-ready" to completed to see if you might have codes.

[marauder21]

Do you have any mods on the car? Just asking because I took my car Like a month ago and it passed. Maybe it was a testing malfunction.?:confused:
Edit: I went to the one in Bedford Park and I have a tune but no problems here..just saying.
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[justbob]

What EMAS said...

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[nh muscle]

Just have a buddy with a somewhat stock marauder get hooked up with your registration. I heard the works if you have a ons issue!!

[RF Overlord]

What EMAS said...^what justbob said^

[Mest30]

I had a lidio tune last time I got an emissions test, back in Sept of 2009 and passed. Shortly there after, I switched to a zach tune. Guess I should call up lidio and go back. Thanks for the help, guys.

[Mest30]

Just have a buddy with a somewhat stock marauder get hooked up with your registration. I heard the works if you have a ons issue!!

Not sure if you're implying what I think you are, but you do realize they go by vin, right? And using someone else's registration is a class A misdemeanor.

[da'law]

They hooked up to my OBDII port got the same readings (I am S/C'ed), when the tech asked the boss what was going on, he said "He changed his parameters because he is modified, you will have to do a sniffer test." The tech placed the sniffers in the exhaust and ran the test. Passed with flying colors. That was at the Schaumburg facility, don't see why you can't get the same test at your facility and you won't have to reload your tune again.

[robertmee]

Mine passed weirdly recently....Had a lidio tune but car was in storage, battery dead. Yanked battery, took it across street from storage unit to a batteries plus and had them charge it. Took it back across the street put it in car and literally drove it one block to inspection station and it passed with flying colors. I always thought if you yanked battery you had to drive at least 100 miles to have sensors/codes report ready, but in my case, not so.

[EMAS]

Mine passed weirdly recently....Had a lidio tune but car was in storage, battery dead. Yanked battery, took it across street from storage unit to a batteries plus and had them charge it. Took it back across the street put it in car and literally drove it one block to inspection station and it passed with flying colors. I always thought if you yanked battery you had to drive at least 100 miles to have sensors/codes report ready, but in my case, not so.

I'm surprised they passed you that is for sure, maybe they have a high threshold of "not ready" components. It normally does not take 100 miles for it to run all of it's tests, I've done many cars in 10-15 miles, by doing the "right" driving.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

I have the same zack tune, and mine passed right away less than a month ago. I went to the tinley park emissions facility.

[Mest30]

I have the same zack tune, and mine passed right away less than a month ago. I went to the tinley park emissions facility.

Where's the tinley park one? I went to markham.

[ChiTownMaraud3r]

In between Harlem and 80th ave, on 175th. There will be signage when going from either direction on 175th.

[Ms. Denmark]

They hooked up to my OBDII port got the same readings (I am S/C'ed), when the tech asked the boss what was going on, he said "He changed his parameters because he is modified, you will have to do a sniffer test." The tech placed the sniffers in the exhaust and ran the test. Passed with flying colors. That was at the Schaumburg facility, don't see why you can't get the same test at your facility and you won't have to reload your tune again.
I have a Zack tune that failed the first time. Had the sniffer test done and passed with flying colors here in NJ.

[Mest30]

In between Harlem and 80th ave, on 175th. There will be signage when going from either direction on 175th.

Thanks bro.

I'm going to call around and see if I can get this sniffer test done at a different location. Thanks for all the input everyone. I'll keep you updated.

[DWSTANG67]

Same thing happened to me in jersey the DMV computer did not get enough input from the car due to tune

I plugged in the programer loaded my stock tune (witch i hate driving with) drove around for 2 weeks went back to DMV and passed.

After inspection pulled into the parking lot and loaded my performance tune and took off

[justbob]

VERY surprised to hear they allowed a sniffer test as the entire basis of the OBD2 VS OBD1 is the fact it can run self diagnostics and adjust if neccessary.. Federal emissions don't give a hoot if it is blowing clean at the time of testing, they want to make sure that it is always adjusting its parameters to keep it that way. If your tune has those turned off, then you fail. Period. Untill you spend an estasblished amount of money trying to get to the bottom of it.

Letting it pass off a clean sniffer test and not showing proof of reciepts for trying to fix the problem would probably get them fired for not knowing their job..

Can't you just load your stock tune for a couple days? Even with my blower mounted without the belt the stock tune worked fine once I replaced a few parts back to stock. Next time around I will have at minimal an emissions tune so I don't have to do the work again and cheat the system when I know the car would not only pass fine, but the fact I am always on top of maintenance and routinely datalog.

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[guspech750]

When my car was NA, I had Zacks tune. It failed, then gave the Merc the sniffer test and it passed.

Now that I have an Eaton swap with a tune from Tim at Mr Norms. The mighty Merc passed emmisions with no problems.

[tbone]

I have Zacks tune. Passed twice, no issues at all.

[Mest30]

I wouldn't be opposed to going back to the stock tune just to pass the test. But how many miles would I have to drive before the car would be ready for the test? And would the the mods in my sig, though rather mild, effect the car while while driving on a stock tune?

[EMAS]

I wouldn't be opposed to going back to the stock tune just to pass the test. But how many miles would I have to drive before the car would be ready for the test? And would the the mods in my sig, though rather mild, effect the car while while driving on a stock tune?


If you drive it right it only takes 10-15 miles for it to complete all it's tests. The only issue with the mods you have is the 4.10 gears will cause the engine to hit the rev-limiter IF you allow it to.

[justbob]

I wouldn't be opposed to going back to the stock tune just to pass the test. But how many miles would I have to drive before the car would be ready for the test? And would the the mods in my sig, though rather mild, effect the car while while driving on a stock tune?

Can't see your sig with my phone. I did not do the Ford procedure, instead I just drove it here and there and checked. The readiness tests periodically with the scanner and it took four days of simply running errands is all. Talk about SLOWer than stock! I just didn't feel like removing the blower so air flow was extremely limited. Emissions are a good thing, that's why I want to get a retune soon. My only real issue is the fact that not every city/county/and state does it. Does it help? Yeah. But why not do even better if the tree huggers really care and make everyone do it? That to me screams they needed another way to spend money is all.

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[Da Dark Jedi]

They hooked up to my OBDII port got the same readings (I am S/C'ed), when the tech asked the boss what was going on, he said "He changed his parameters because he is modified, you will have to do a sniffer test." The tech placed the sniffers in the exhaust and ran the test. Passed with flying colors. That was at the Schaumburg facility, don't see why you can't get the same test at your facility and you won't have to reload your tune again.


Same with me. The emissions test station @ 159th St off I-57 performed a sniff test on mine. Oh I'm NA with a DR tune & Zack Trans shift program.

[da'law]

Couldn't tell you why they did use the sniffer test after the boss suggested it. I do know the prior test was don't at the Elk Grove facility and they did the OBDII plug test and it passed then and I haven't changed my engine tune, just the trans tune. Maybe they were in a good mood that day and just did not want the hassle.



VERY surprised to hear they allowed a sniffer test as the entire basis of the OBD2 VS OBD1 is the fact it can run self diagnostics and adjust if neccessary.. Federal emissions don't give a hoot if it is blowing clean at the time of testing, they want to make sure that it is always adjusting its parameters to keep it that way. If your tune has those turned off, then you fail. Period. Untill you spend an estasblished amount of money trying to get to the bottom of it.

Letting it pass off a clean sniffer test and not showing proof of reciepts for trying to fix the problem would probably get them fired for not knowing their job..

Can't you just load your stock tune for a couple days? Even with my blower mounted without the belt the stock tune worked fine once I replaced a few parts back to stock. Next time around I will have at minimal an emissions tune so I don't have to do the work again and cheat the system when I know the car would not only pass fine, but the fact I am always on top of maintenance and routinely datalog.

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[Mest30]

When did you guys get your sniff tests done? I went to the one in tinley park a few weeks ago and asked for it after failing the normal and was informed they stopped doing it in February. So now I gotta load my stock tune. Does the excal2 have an on button or does it just automatically turn on when you plug it in?

[MM2004]

When did you guys get your sniff tests done? I went to the one in tinley park a few weeks ago and asked for it after failing the normal and was informed they stopped doing it in February. So now I gotta load my stock tune. Does the excal2 have an on button or does it just automatically turn on when you plug it in?

The Xcal will power up once plugged in.

Good luck!

Mike.

[1 Bad Merc]

I would load the stock tune, drive about 10-15 miles on the highway (57-80-294) do some errands and then take it for a test. This is what I did when I reset my tune and it worked. From what my cousin (Ford Tech) told me it needs to see different types of driving styles to recalibrate the settings. That is why you want it to get up to 55-60 miles an hour for some time and then do some stop and go driving. After that you should be reset and ready to go no problem. Good Luck

[Mest30]

Yeah, that's the plan since I got denied my sniff test. While driving on the highway with 4.10s and no tune, how accurate will the speedo be?

[Baaad GN]

The speedo will not be off that much, gez can't you drive easy for a few days!

[Mest30]

The speedo will not be off that much, gez can't you drive easy for a few days!

Yeah, but I don't want to be cruising at 65 on the highway and actually be going 80 considering I dont know how much of a difference it makes.

[1 Bad Merc]

It's not going to be off that much. Maybe 5 mph at most. Let us know how it turns out!

[RF Overlord]

Divide 4.10 by 3.55...your speedo will read about 15% high.

[Mest30]

Stock tune has been loaded. I will be driving the car to work tomorrow. About 25 miles one way, mixed city and highway. Am hoping to make it to the emissions testing center after work before they close bit it might have to wait until Monday.

[Mest30]

Just drove to work. My god does this thing run rough without the tune. Like a totally different car.

[Mest30]

I was able to make it today and the car passed. Thanks everyone, for the help.

[Richy04]

your answer is in your banner.. The tune will do this.. You need to upload your stock tune, wait a few days and go back.. Your state switched to the more advanced obd2 software which checks everything. I am in NJ and they started 2 years ago..

[Mest30]

your answer is in your banner.. The tune will do this.. You need to upload your stock tune, wait a few days and go back.. Your state switched to the more advanced obd2 software which checks everything. I am in NJ and they started 2 years ago..

Perhaps you missed the post just above yours stating I finally passed.