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Panther
07-17-2012, 02:57 AM
Going to change the oil on the MM this afternoon. Wanted to know were would be the best lift points and are there any grease fitting and how many.


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fastblackmerc
07-17-2012, 03:06 AM
The information is in the owners manual.

Siege
07-17-2012, 04:04 AM
For oil changes I use Rhino Ramps. They are fast, easy to use, and safe if used on a flat surface.

When jacking up the front of the car I put the jack on the crossmember on either side. On the bottom of the crossmember behind the ledge under the lower control arm bolts is a raised area that's the perfect size for the top of a jack.

For the rear I use the center of the pumpkin being careful to avoid the bottom lip of the differential cover.

Panther
07-17-2012, 04:19 AM
For oil changes I use Rhino Ramps. They are fast, easy to use, and safe if used on a flat surface.

When jacking up the front of the car I put the jack on the crossmember on either side. On the bottom of the crossmember behind the ledge under the lower control arm bolts is a raised area that's the perfect size for the top of a jack.

For the rear I use the center of the pumpkin being careful to avoid the bottom lip of the differential cover.

Thanks i will look into this I have a set of ramps I will be using. Thanks for the info.


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RF Overlord
07-17-2012, 04:23 AM
For the rear I use the center of the pumpkin being careful to avoid the bottom lip of the differential cover.From the owner's manual, page 155:

Never use the rear differential as a jacking point.

JACK LOCATION-FRONT
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (circle) on the body near the
tire you are changing, then place the jack under the frame
of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (circle).
JACK LOCATION-REAR
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (triangle) on the body near
the tire you are changing, then place the jack under the
frame of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (triangle).

LANDY
07-17-2012, 04:31 AM
Simple question, simple answer. It's a frame car, jack it up behind the fender on the chassis.
Make sure you put a jack stand!

RoyLPita
07-17-2012, 04:55 AM
Unless the front lower and upper ball joints were changed with aftermarket parts, there are no grease fittings.

Panther
07-17-2012, 05:59 AM
Unless the front lower and upper ball joints were changed with aftermarket parts, there are no grease fittings.

Cool thanks on the info on the grease fitting.


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Panther
07-17-2012, 06:01 AM
From the owner's manual, page 155:

Never use the rear differential as a jacking point.

JACK LOCATION-FRONT
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (circle) on the body near the
tire you are changing, then place the jack under the frame
of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (circle).
JACK LOCATION-REAR
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (triangle) on the body near
the tire you are changing, then place the jack under the
frame of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (triangle).

Thank you


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babbage
07-17-2012, 07:14 AM
For oil changes I use Rhino Ramps. They are fast, easy to use, and safe if used on a flat surface.

When jacking up the front of the car I put the jack on the crossmember on either side. On the bottom of the crossmember behind the ledge under the lower control arm bolts is a raised area that's the perfect size for the top of a jack.

For the rear I use the center of the pumpkin being careful to avoid the bottom lip of the differential cover.

+1 on on the Rhino ramps. If you get (4) you have yourself a mini lift!

Mr. Man
07-17-2012, 10:59 AM
Thank you


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Not to quell your enthusiasm to change your own oil but it's so cheap to get it done at...hell even the dealer that it hardly seems worth the hassle of dealing with the waste oil.

fastblackmerc
07-17-2012, 11:15 AM
Not to quell your enthusiasm to change your own oil but it's so cheap to get it done at...hell even the dealer that it hardly seems worth the hassle of dealing with the waste oil.

When you do it yourself you know its done right.

Only takes about 30 minutes, plus you get to check out the underside of the car.

I have two 5 quart containers that are always full that I empty at the FLAPS whenever I go there.

RF Overlord
07-17-2012, 11:28 AM
When you do it yourself you know its done right.

Only takes about 30 minutes, plus you get to check out the underside of the car.^^^This.^^^

Only drawback is I had to build scaffolding for my ramps to get them high enough to slide my fat ass under the car.

Mr. Man
07-17-2012, 01:03 PM
When you do it yourself you know its done right.

Only takes about 30 minutes, plus you get to check out the underside of the car.

I have two 5 quart containers that are always full that I empty at the FLAPS whenever I go there.
My guy puts the car on a lift and I check out the underside while he futzes with the oil. I used to do it myself but I just don't want to deal with the used oil anymore. :)

justbob
07-17-2012, 03:18 PM
I use four points. :D
http://img.tapatalk.com/aee7840b-e4ca-b4b1.jpg

But seriously, its a full frame car.

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RF Overlord
07-17-2012, 03:28 PM
Those of you with lifts in your home garages just...well...suck. :P

Spectragod
07-17-2012, 04:42 PM
Those of you with lifts in your home garages just...well...suck. :P

Oh yeah sure...... like you don't suck?:P :D

JOEMERC
07-17-2012, 04:59 PM
Plus one on the ramps for changing oil,oh and try to drive up on 4 ramps at once your rear tires will spin trying to push up the heavy front end of car,I know tried it once. It was worth a try I quess, lol.

justbob
07-17-2012, 06:01 PM
Those of you with lifts in your home garages just...well...suck. :P

Check around Bob. They can be had on the CHEAP. I have passed up several deals around here.

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RF Overlord
07-17-2012, 06:16 PM
Problem is I don't have the ceiling height for one without major surgery, so I will continue to pout in the corner. :tongue:

MyBlackBeasts
07-17-2012, 06:25 PM
When you do it yourself you know its done right.

Only takes about 30 minutes, plus you get to check out the underside of the car.

^^^^^Like FBM says, this!!!^^^^^

Just had a client pick their car up after oil change, they had installed wrong filter, didn't leak but restricted oil flow. A few miles down the hwy & BOOM! No more engine!

Waste oil is easy, put the jug out with the garbage, recycle guy takes it away. What doesn't get used for shop heat gets sold to oil recycle company.

The day I stop doing my own car repairs is the day I stop driving & move into the nursing home... :geezer:

Siege
07-18-2012, 06:59 AM
From the owner's manual, page 155:

Never use the rear differential as a jacking point.

JACK LOCATION-FRONT
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (circle) on the body near the
tire you are changing, then place the jack under the frame
of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (circle).
JACK LOCATION-REAR
The jack location markings can be
found on the lower outer edge of
the body.
Locate the jack locator mark (triangle) on the body near
the tire you are changing, then place the jack under the
frame of the vehicle aligning it with the mark (triangle).

These instructions are for the supplied emergency scissor jack which I wouldn't use for anything but an emergency situation.

Here is the jacking diagram from the service manual:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1o9f1k.jpg

As far as jacking from the bottom of the rear differential you are correct that both the owners manual and service manual specify not to use the rear differential as a jacking point.

My guess is that enough mouthbreathers either destroyed their differential cover through improper jacking or had a car fall on them from working under a car supported only by a jack on the differential that Ford changed their tune to limit their liability.

Do whatever you feel comfortable with but I have owned 10 solid rear axle cars and have raised every one under the rear differential without issue.
:beer:

Siege
07-18-2012, 07:00 AM
Plus one on the ramps for changing oil,oh and try to drive up on 4 ramps at once your rear tires will spin trying to push up the heavy front end of car,I know tried it once. It was worth a try I quess, lol.

When I use ramps I use a rubber mallet on the ramps to drive them under the tires prior to driving up. It makes for much less drama.

Panther
07-18-2012, 07:45 AM
These instructions are for the supplied emergency scissor jack which I wouldn't use for anything but an emergency situation.

Here is the jacking diagram from the service manual:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1o9f1k.jpg

As far as jacking from the bottom of the rear differential you are correct that both the owners manual and service manual specify not to use the rear differential as a jacking point.

My guess is that enough mouthbreathers either destroyed their differential cover through improper jacking or had a car fall on them from working under a car supported only by a jack on the differential that Ford changed their tune to limit their liability.

Do whatever you feel comfortable with but I have owned 10 solid rear axle cars and have raised every one under the rear differential without issue.
:beer:

Thanks.


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Spectragod
07-18-2012, 08:48 AM
Problem is I don't have the ceiling height for one without major surgery, so I will continue to pout in the corner. :tongue:

Then you need a "mid rise" lift, 1/2 the money. :D