Supercharger kits

[Gordy]

I know looking through the past threads that some kits have come and gone so im just gonna ask. I am looking into options to supercharge the Marauder and I was wondering what kits are out there now? What options does one have?

[MOTOWN]

LOL! what ever you like as long as you can gather the parts and make it work, kits arent really an option any longer unless someone sells there Trilogy kit, or you go with an eaton swap.

A centri build from scratch is just too exspensive! Trust me!!!!!!!!!!!

[SC Cheesehead]

I know looking through the past threads that some kits have come and gone so im just gonna ask. I am looking into options to supercharge the Marauder and I was wondering what kits are out there now? What options does one have?

AFAIK, no "kits" out there since Trilogy ceased selling theirs.

Options:

DIY Eaton swap (including Whipples and Kenne Bells), using '03 - '04 Mustang Cobra intake components and the corresponding blower head (i.e. OEM Cobra Eaton M112, or aftermarket Whipple or KB)

Vortech, either DR installed or DIY (contact - http://www.reinhartautomotive.com/)

DIY?? Procharger (contact - http://www.procharger.com/superchargerdealers/recommend.shtml)

Turbos- :dunno:

[Gordy]

AFAIK, no "kits" out there since Trilogy ceased selling theirs.

Options:

DIY Eaton swap (including Whipples and Kenne Bells), using '03 - '04 Mustang Cobra intake components and the corresponding blower head (i.e. OEM Cobra Eaton M112, or aftermarket Whipple or KB)

Vortech, either DR installed or DIY (contact - http://www.reinhartautomotive.com/)

DIY?? Procharger (contact - http://www.procharger.com/superchargerdealers/recommend.shtml)

Turbos- :dunno:


Ok, so i was right in my belief that Reinhart is the only one offering a turn key supercharger option.

[MOTOWN]

ok, so i was right in my belief that reinhart is the only one offering a turn key supercharger option.

i would do carefull research before you order anything!!!!!!!

[dohc324ci]

DR is the only SC (Vortech) kit for the Marauder that is available. But lately he has been having issues; long delivery time. Months (8+) for a member in NorCal. Adtr.net in SoCal has a Vortech kit for the Crown Vic's they are willing to modify for the Marauder.

[MMBLUE]

A centri build from scratch is just too exspensive! Trust me!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm working on one now and I should be all said and done 4K ish;) It takes a lot a patience and looking for good parts on the cheap. And some really good friends to help you out.

[J-MAN]

i would do carefull research before you order anything!!!!!!!


bingo!!!!!

[MOTOWN]

I'm working on one now and I should be all said and done 4K ish;) It takes a lot a patience and looking for good parts on the cheap. And some really good friends to help you out.

Your my Hero bud! my S/C alone was $3100:mad2:

[LANDY]

A centrifugal air to air kit can be put together for $5200 with a new blower and bad ass piping.

[MMBLUE]

Your my Hero bud! my S/C alone was $3100:mad2:

I'll have the final figures when it's done. Mid 4 K's. Like I said, I've had a lot of good friends and luck on some purchases.:beer:

[MOTOWN]

Heres Youtube that hepled me make my choice on a Blower! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H05FbaKj7TQ

[MOTOWN]

Just keep in mind on a centri build your going to need a stall converter and gears! where as a eaton swap these are optional not mandatory as with a centri!

[MMBLUE]

Just keep in mind on a centri build your going to need a stall converter and gears! where as a eaton swap these are optional not mandatory as with a centri!

It also depends what your end goal is. Do you want a strip MM or a fast DD on the top end.

[MOTOWN]

It also depends what your end goal is. Do you want a strip MM or a fast DD on the top end.

I want both bud!:banana2::lol:

[J-MAN]

It also depends what your end goal is. Do you want a strip MM or a fast DD on the top end.

The simple answer is YES!

[Gordy]

Ok, so options are:

1. Play scavenge hunter to piece the Eaton swap together

2. Have a custom built system and spend my life savings.

or

3. Buy a turn key from Reinhart who is a vendor who is loved by as many people as he is hated by on here.

Yall sure do not make it easy on some one lol

[BODYMAN]

Just keep in mind on a centri build your going to need a stall converter and gears! where as a eaton swap these are optional not mandatory as with a centri!

=1000. I had a centri kit with no stall for a very short time. Let me just say it seemed like bicycles were beating me out of the whole lol

[BODYMAN]

Ok, so options are:

1. Play scavenge hunter to piece the Eaton swap together

2. Have a custom built system and spend my life savings.

or

3. Buy a turn key from Reinhart who is a vendor who is loved by as many people as he is hated by on here.

Yall sure do not make it easy on some one lol

Eaton swap is easier then it seems. Ive done it & helped another member with parts gathering. These parts are all over the place on the diff Mustang forums. Also if you have time and youre savy you can do a basic Eaton build very reasonable.

[MOTOWN]

Ok, so options are:

1. Play scavenge hunter to piece the Eaton swap together

2. Have a custom built system and spend my life savings.

or

3. Buy a turn key from Reinhart who is a vendor who is loved by as many people as he is hated by on here.

Yall sure do not make it easy on some one lol

Ill be the first to admit the Eaton swap is the best bang for your buck and if you want a light to light stomp puller a eaton/whipple should be in order!

I built a centri build because i wanted one of the quickest (10 sec range) street driven MM around and i felt a centri was the best way for me to make that happen!

[Cheeseheadbob]

Option #3 should not even be on your radar. Also, your 50/50 love-hate ratio regarding Reinhart is rather generous...:shake:
Ok, so options are:

1. Play scavenge hunter to piece the Eaton swap together

2. Have a custom built system and spend my life savings.

or

3. Buy a turn key from Reinhart who is a vendor who is loved by as many people as he is hated by on here.

Yall sure do not make it easy on some one lol

[bigmerc'03]

try mo's speed shop here in north georgia or talk to him on here see what he says.... number 3 should be your VERY last option

[Gordy]

try mo's speed shop here in north georgia or talk to him on here see what he says.... number 3 should be your VERY last option

Ya, I have been meaning to talk to Mo's since Dallas is not that far from me. In all honesty,a root style is what I want.

[SC Cheesehead]

Ya, I have been meaning to talk to Mo's since Dallas is not that far from me. In all honesty,a root style is what I want.

If you gather up the Eaton swap parts, Mo's could do the install and that would be turnkey.

Depending on how aggressively you look for parts, and what's out there, you could prolly gather up all the needed parts inside of a month.

I took my time, waited for the right deals to come up, and it took me about 14 months to get everything needed. Actually, the parts search was a fun part of the process, and I learned a ton about both S/C and our cars as well. I'd go that route again in a heartbeat.

[guspech750]

Eaton swap FTW!!

[DOOM]

Good luck on your search. :beer:

You will love BOOST!!! :burn: :burnout:

[guspech750]

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[guspech750]

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[dohc324ci]

If I didnt live in Cali Id be doing a Whipple 2.3 SC. In other words do and Eaton swap and be done.

[Gordy]

Ya, my last car had an Eaton and I really just miss that sound. I believe with the Eaton and my other plans I can easily make my goal. I'm just wanting to see all options and I have waited so long to do this car I want it all now lol. I honestly do have the patience to put it all together for the Eaton, I just worry about ending up spending the same amount of money piecing together all used stuff that I could have bought something new that I know will last for the same price.

[CWright]

Ya, I have been meaning to talk to Mo's since Dallas is not that far from me. In all honesty,a root style is what I want.


They did mine! :D

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Whipple_2012_002.JPG (javascript:;)

[dohc324ci]

Dont worry their isnt a SC kit out there for the Marauder anymore unless you find someone willing to part with theirs. FIT Gone, Trilogy Gone, Dennis Reinhart kit....? If you do the Eaton swap you can easily upgrade to a Whipple down the line.

[hotford]

Or if your willing to piece a cobra converstion why not finish this kit off..........
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/photo-69.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/photo-70.jpg
The hard to find parts for the trilogy are all here.

[Gordy]

They did mine! :D

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Whipple_2012_002.JPG (http://javascript<b></b>:;)



That's a beautiful setup. From reading reviews for other options, this was not your first set up? Hope its not a touchy subject, but if you don't mind me asking, why the switch?

I definitely need to get in touch with this Mo you speak of lol. His work does look good.

[MOTOWN]

Or if your willing to piece a cobra converstion why not finish this kit off..........
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/photo-69.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t28/hotford/photo-70.jpg
The hard to find parts for the trilogy are all here.

This truly your best bet! if i had the extra coin i would snap this up and finish gathering the other parts!:banana:

[CWright]

That's a beautiful setup. From reading reviews for other options, this was not your first set up? Hope its not a touchy subject, but if you don't mind me asking, why the switch?

I definitely need to get in touch with this Mo you speak of lol. His work does look good.


No bother at all. I will say this, I got a "WildHair" :D Here's the link to when I began and what got me started. I will say this, I BLAME IT ALL ON DOOM!!! :P
This video I shot of DOOM. It got my blood going!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaMrlgfoTrg


This thread starts my Trilogy build and then it turned loose.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76719

Then I went with the Whipple.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78545

[88LTDCV351]

DR is the only SC (Vortech) kit for the Marauder that is available. But lately he has been having issues; long delivery time. Months (8+) for a member in NorCal. Adtr.net in SoCal has a Vortech kit for the Crown Vic's they are willing to modify for the Marauder.

Actually more like 11+ months.

[Gordy]

Actually more like 11+ months.


Oh man, you have an LTD police with the 351?!?! I have been waiting to find one of those for some time. I love that car.

[Gordy]

No bother at all. I will say this, I got a "WildHair" :D Here's the link to when I began and what got me started. I will say this, I BLAME IT ALL ON DOOM!!! :P
This video I shot of DOOM. It got my blood going!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaMrlgfoTrg


This thread starts my Trilogy build and then it turned loose.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76719

Then I went with the Whipple.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78545

Oh yes, I know these videos.

Darn, I really wanted to stay away from the bottom of the motor but I just don't think it's gonna be possible. I know 450hp seems to be the general rule mentioned, but what have you guys been getting up to with these stock bottom ends without issue?

[DOOM]

I will say this, I BLAME IT ALL ON DOOM!!! :P
This video I shot of DOOM. It got my blood going!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaMrlgfoTrg



:wasntme: :hide:

[SC Cheesehead]

Oh yes, I know these videos.

Darn, I really wanted to stay away from the bottom of the motor but I just don't think it's gonna be possible. I know 450hp seems to be the general rule mentioned, but what have you guys been getting up to with these stock bottom ends without issue?

Zack was running 480+ on the Eaton swap on his Blue before it got wrecked.

There are a bunch of us in the 430 - 460 range that aren't having any issues.

The weakest link in the stock motor is the rods, and the biggest single causes of failure seem to relate to pre-detonation and fuel starvation. So, if you don't go crazy on the timing, and you give the motor plenty of (constant) fuel pressure; the stock lower ends should be good for anything approaching 500 hp.

If you want to make over 500 hp, plan on spending rising at an expotential rate, as it starts getting expensive at about that point.

[CWright]

If you want to make over 500 hp, plan on spending rising at an expotential rate, as it starts getting expensive at about that point.


You hit the nail on the head! ;)

[justbob]

466 for close to two years now.


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[LANDY]

Oh yes, I know these videos.

Darn, I really wanted to stay away from the bottom of the motor but I just don't think it's gonna be possible. I know 450hp seems to be the general rule mentioned, but what have you guys been getting up to with these stock bottom ends without issue?
On a centri blower you can run 500rwhp on the stock bottom end without a problem i know few of us who did.

[LANDY]

Just keep in mind on a centri build your going to need a stall converter and gears! where as a eaton swap these are optional not mandatory as with a centri!
The right stall will make the centri go from ok im going to holy **** this ***** its pulling!

[MMBLUE]

The right stall will make the centri go from ok im going to holy **** this ***** its pulling!

Yeah, stall and gears will be my next venture.. FTW :beer:

[CWright]

I really like both setups! They both will create plenty of power and be a lot of fun to drive. Switching for me was just a personal decision and I'm glad I did. Either way you decide to go you will enjoy and that's a promise.:beer:

[BODYMAN]

On a centri blower you can run 500rwhp on the stock bottom end without a problem i know few of us who did.

I did almost 5 years and a bunch of miles with 0 issues. I definetly would feel comfortable with a centri with a good tune at or just below 500. The nicest thing with a centri blower it isnt taxing the motor all the time just when you want it to. But like others said either way you cant go wrong both are awesome & alot of fun.:beer:

[Gordy]

Ok, thanks for all the input guys, I think I know exactly how I'm gonna do this. I really do appreciate all the information and advice. Hopefully my plan is successful lol

[dohc324ci]

Ok spill the beans? What SC you going with?

[stevengerard]

go with gears and a stall first and then see what you think.

I have 476 at the rear wheels and have had no issues (knock on wood) over 60k miles worth of fun, but I think if I had to do it again, I'd go with a stall first, gears second and no SC. But as others mentioned if you go with an Eaton then don't bother with the gears or the converter just SC it and enjoy

[Gordy]

Ok spill the beans? What SC you going with?

Eaton swap, gonna drop the boost level a hint just to take some stress off. Once I get the parts together, it and my heads are going to a friend for some work :-). We are gonna sit down soon and lay everything out so he can start working on a grind for the cams too. Then just a few other treats which should be followed by alot of tire smoke :burnout:

[breeze]

I gathered %90 of parts before selling them. If I was to do it again I'd know where, how, what to start looking for. Will be easier next time around. Go Eaton!!:burnout:

[Gordy]

Ya, just wish their was a complete list with a phone number on the side and pricing listed next to each part lol

[guspech750]

Gordy should buy Hotrods Trilogy that's for sale.

Then you could avoid moving the battery if you wish.


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Eaton Swap + 4.10's = Wreeeeeeeeeedom!!

[Gordy]

Gordy should buy Hotrods Trilogy that's for sale.

Then you could avoid moving the battery if you wish.


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Eaton Swap + 4.10's = Wreeeeeeeeeedom!!

It truly is tempting to get it, and I know everyone says the rest of the stuff that is missing is interchangeable is with the Eaton swap parts but I honestly don't know enough about that system to confidently spend $1800 followed by another 2k to get all the way to one part that does not work and no one with the other 250 of them made will be willing to separate with it.

Its just alot of investment on something With nothing more than some screen names arguing if it will work.

[SC Cheesehead]

Ya, just wish their was a complete list with a phone number on the side and pricing listed next to each part lol

Phone number for parts? :confused:

Pricing is all over the map, depends on who's selling and the condition/age of the part.

PM me with you e-mail address and I can send you some stuff I put together during my Eaton swap.

[Gordy]

Phone number for parts? :confused:

Pricing is all over the map, depends on who's selling and the condition/age of the part.

PM me with you e-mail address and I can send you some stuff I put together during my Eaton swap.

Ya, a phone number to someone who sells all the parts and the pricing for it.

I'm sure the scavenger hunt will be fun, I just work 7 days a week most weeks and I really don't want to wait a year to get it all together.

[guspech750]

It truly is tempting to get it, and I know everyone says the rest of the stuff that is missing is interchangeable is with the Eaton swap parts but I honestly don't know enough about that system to confidently spend $1800 followed by another 2k to get all the way to one part that does not work and no one with the other 250 of them made will be willing to separate with it.

Its just alot of investment on something With nothing more than some screen names arguing if it will work.
You may not know alll the info. But we are here to help. I too did not know all the info and parts etc etc until I started talkting with others, Rexs nicely done emails and reading the Eaton Swap thread we have here. I learned alot about our motors now and about supercharging. And I am still learning a year after the swap.

We are here to help you if need be:beer:
Any questions anytime:beer:

[MOTOWN]

Ya, just wish their was a complete list with a phone number on the side and pricing listed next to each part lol

There used to be such a phone# it was called Trilogy motorsports! but since the "kit" is no longer an option you create your owc s/c or stay n/a those are pretty much our options!

[CWright]

Ya, a phone number to someone who sells all the parts and the pricing for it.

I'm sure the scavenger hunt will be fun, I just work 7 days a week most weeks and I really don't want to wait a year to get it all together.


Just shot you a pm.

[SC Cheesehead]

Ya, a phone number to someone who sells all the parts and the pricing for it.

I'm sure the scavenger hunt will be fun, I just work 7 days a week most weeks and I really don't want to wait a year to get it all together.

Don't know of any single source you could go to for all the parts. I gathered up mine from a variety of sources:

Websites:
svtperformance

modular mustangs

The Chicago Garage

other mustang sites

e-bay

craigslist


And finally, there's always: word of mouth.

Also, as I posted up earlier, pricing is going to vary, I'd budget between $3,500 and $4,000 for parts/fabbed stuff, another $300 - 400 for a dyno tune, and if you're going to have a third party do the installation, $750 to $1,000.

[1stMerc]

In this time line there really is no easy way. You could get lucky, but how long or you willing to wait for it. Just have to start one part at a time and have patients enough to make the good deals, thus lessening the over all cost. All that did the eaton swap didn't have all the parts drop in they're lap over night.

You can do it. Just say you will.

[JBeezy]

Subscribing....

[SC Cheesehead]

Here you go, guys!

http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/showthread.php?t=77323&page=3#post1226184