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ali33334us
11-04-2012, 11:39 AM
I have a probelm in my whipple supercharger belt
I have belt slip
I install whipple supercharger into Mercury Marauder 2003
We also had some belt slip
we need part that come with Pulley same that you install into tiyr car CWright (http://member.php/?u=9298)
I need help stop the belt slip right now
CWright
11-04-2012, 11:56 AM
Mos speed shop fabbed that up for me. I'm sure they could make one to send you. Shoot a pm to Martyo and he can check to see how much it'd cost. They can prob draw a diagram of how it's installed as well.
justbob
11-04-2012, 01:00 PM
Thats looks sweet Chris! For some reason I thought you had the dual pulley Thump?
31910
PM-1002-90-3001 Billet Aluminum Belt Tensioner with 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Extension Arm
Patent # US D596,824 S
Fits all Ford models with a smooth tensioner pulley & fitted with Saleen supercharger - see Ford models here
Our heavy duty belt tensioner comes with a 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Gripper Plate complete with double bearing billet aluminum Idler pulley. The Gripper plate must be used in conjunction with the Thump RRR Racing Billet Tensioner P/N PM-1002-76 or PM-1002-90. This may be used on either 6 or 8 rib setups. It comes with a 76mm billet aluminum idler pulley.
Available in silver only. Read customer reviews
$555.00
http://www.thumpracing.com/index.htm#belt_tensioners
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hotford
11-04-2012, 02:24 PM
I'm gonna get one.....................
Blown3.8
11-04-2012, 04:40 PM
Put a bigger pulley on the idler arm. That will squeeze the belt around the blower pulley more.
Or you can run a bigger blower pulley and then get a bigger crank pulley to up the boost.
Spectragod
11-04-2012, 05:39 PM
Thats looks sweet Chris! For some reason I thought you had the dual pulley Thump?
31910
PM-1002-90-3001 Billet Aluminum Belt Tensioner with 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Extension Arm
Patent # US D596,824 S
Fits all Ford models with a smooth tensioner pulley & fitted with Saleen supercharger - see Ford models here
Our heavy duty belt tensioner comes with a 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Gripper Plate complete with double bearing billet aluminum Idler pulley. The Gripper plate must be used in conjunction with the Thump RRR Racing Billet Tensioner P/N PM-1002-76 or PM-1002-90. This may be used on either 6 or 8 rib setups. It comes with a 76mm billet aluminum idler pulley.
Available in silver only. Read customer reviews
$555.00
http://www.thumpracing.com/index.htm#belt_tensioners
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
^^^^^^This, got rid of my belt slip.
http://www.mercurymarauder.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=59&pictureid=1032
More current shot of said tensioner.......
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h138/rfrf5500/DTR%20%20shots/IMG_0290.jpg
CWright
11-04-2012, 05:51 PM
Thats looks sweet Chris! For some reason I thought you had the dual pulley Thump?
31910
PM-1002-90-3001 Billet Aluminum Belt Tensioner with 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Extension Arm
Patent # US D596,824 S
Fits all Ford models with a smooth tensioner pulley & fitted with Saleen supercharger - see Ford models here
Our heavy duty belt tensioner comes with a 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Gripper Plate complete with double bearing billet aluminum Idler pulley. The Gripper plate must be used in conjunction with the Thump RRR Racing Billet Tensioner P/N PM-1002-76 or PM-1002-90. This may be used on either 6 or 8 rib setups. It comes with a 76mm billet aluminum idler pulley.
Available in silver only. Read customer reviews
$555.00
http://www.thumpracing.com/index.htm#belt_tensioners
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks Bob! Brandon designed this new setup for me. I like it and it did get rid of all the slip. Our main concern in doing this way was to minimize pressure on the snout of the S/C.
martyo
11-04-2012, 06:55 PM
I have a probelm in my whipple supercharger belt
I have belt slip
I install whipple supercharger into Mercury Marauder 2003
We also had some belt slip
we need part that come with Pulley same that you install into tiyr car CWright (http://member.php/?u=9298)
I need help stop the belt slip right now
Mos speed shop fabbed that up for me. I'm sure they could make one to send you. Shoot a pm to Martyo and he can check to see how much it'd cost. They can prob draw a diagram of how it's installed as well.
As Chris said, we can make this set up for you and then ship it out to you. I will be honest, I do not have any experience shipping to your country so it will be hard for me to judge shipping charges on this.
Let me know if you are interested.
ali33334us
11-05-2012, 01:20 PM
As Chris said, we can make this set up for you and then ship it out to you. I will be honest, I do not have any experience shipping to your country so it will be hard for me to judge shipping charges on this.
Let me know if you are interested.
Ok, I need to buy it as soon as possible
how much does it cost ?
how can I buy it?
can you send me website if you have it?
thanks
nh muscle
11-05-2012, 09:20 PM
Send me the whipple with slip and I will send you an eaton that doesn't!!! Had to sorry!
martyo
11-06-2012, 06:35 AM
Ok, I need to buy it as soon as possible
how much does it cost ?
how can I buy it?
can you send me website if you have it?
thanks
We would need Chris's car back at our shop to take the measurements.
CWright
11-06-2012, 09:14 AM
We would need Chris's car back at our shop to take the measurements.
That's not a problem. I will be gone and can drop by after Thanksgiving.
ali33334us
11-07-2012, 08:38 AM
We would need Chris's car back at our shop to take the measurements.
The Car is in Saudi Arabia, I think I can not ship it to USA
Can you tell help me?
thanks
ali33334us
11-07-2012, 08:40 AM
That's not a problem. I will be gone and can drop by after Thanksgiving.
I need to know, do I need to ship the car or not?
CWright
11-07-2012, 09:17 AM
I need to know, do I need to ship the car or not?
He can look at my car and get the measurements. Then ship the parts to you.
ali33334us
11-07-2012, 10:13 AM
We would need Chris's car back at our shop to take the measurements.
can you look at CWright car and get the measurements. Then ship the parts to Me?
martyo
11-07-2012, 08:07 PM
I need to know, do I need to ship the car or not?
If you want to ship the car to us we would be happy to work on it for you. We can also tune the car for you.
ali33334us
11-08-2012, 04:02 AM
That's not a problem. I will be gone and can drop by after Thanksgiving.
Cab you drop your car these days to get the measurements
if you can not, no problem you can drop it after Thanksgiving
Thank you for your help, and I am very hapy to talk to you
ali33334us
11-13-2012, 06:16 AM
That's not a problem. I will be gone and can drop by after Thanksgiving.
Dear CWright,
you get Boost 18 PSI.
Could you please tell me the size of pulleys ?
because I have Pulley size 3.0 Upper
and 4 lb lower pulley
and I got 13 to 14 PSI
thanks
Blown3.8
11-13-2012, 08:26 AM
Dear CWright,
you get Boost 18 PSI.
Could you please tell me the size of pulleys ?
because I have Pulley size 3.0 Upper
and 4 lb lower pulley
and I got 13 to 14 PSI
thanks
That is definatly low. We have a 4lb lower and the 3.5"(stock upper) and make 19.5psi. With the 4lb lower and 3.2 upper I saw 24psi. But it may be a little lower cause it either ran out of fuel or blew the spark out and seemed to jump up right when it fell on its face.
We have zero problems with belt slip with either of those pulley combos. With the 4lb lower and 3.5 upper we are using a 56" belt. I have to take the blower pulley off, put the belt over the pulley then bolt the pulley to the blower.
It sounds like your tensioner maybe maxed out under load. Which means it is not putting any pressure on the belt.
Is that your car in the first picture?
Here is our setup. We are just using the stock trilogy tensioner.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/15.jpg
And in this pic you can see I drilled and tapped another set of holes to clock the tensioner when we use the 3.2 pulley. So the tensioner has room to work.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u216/blown38/20120620_132746.jpg
ls1_rulz
11-13-2012, 02:26 PM
HI everyone
i think there is no problem with fuel it's 50psi at wot and 40~@ Pt
AFR 11.5 WOT 14.7 ~ 14.9 @ PT
spark 18 with pump gas 95
maf V MAX 3.8
do you think the vacuum lines make this problem ?
do you have the diagram for Whipple supercharge vacuum lines ?!
CWright
11-13-2012, 08:30 PM
Dear CWright,
you get Boost 18 PSI.
Could you please tell me the size of pulleys ?
because I have Pulley size 3.0 Upper
and 4 lb lower pulley
and I got 13 to 14 PSI
thanks
I'm running a stock size lower with a 2.75 upper. 18lbs of boost with this setup.
Blown3.8
11-14-2012, 10:57 AM
HI everyone
i think there is no problem with fuel it's 50psi at wot and 40~@ Pt
AFR 11.5 WOT 14.7 ~ 14.9 @ PT
spark 18 with pump gas 95
maf V MAX 3.8
do you think the vacuum lines make this problem ?
do you have the diagram for Whipple supercharge vacuum lines ?!
If you are making 14psi of boost you theoretically should have 54 psi of fuel pressure on a gauge with the base pressure of 40psi. If you are logging Fuel Pressure from the computer it should stay at 40psi.
What fuel pump are you using? Is it a return fuel system or the stock returnless?
ls1_rulz
11-14-2012, 04:00 PM
hi again
today i work on the car and i fix the boost problem , now reading 18~19 PSI
but now the problem the AFR when i hit the gas it's reading 11.5 after after 4000 RPM 13.2 and after 5000 15.3
this the data from data-log i take it today( the files on the attachments )
it's stock fuel system + SCT3000 + gt40 pump + boost Pump + 60 injectors
update : the fuel at PT it's 42~45 PSi not 40 PSI
this the setting for the MAF
1023.984375 62.6708984375
981.5 62.6708984375
957.875 62.6708984375
898.359375 61.7177734375
844.515625 60.12890625
779.484375 45.9580078125
736.609375 36.169921875
694.828125 29.8544921875
659.9375 24.525390625
602.25 18.486328125
571.265625 15.845703125
541.0625 13.2744140625
519.09375 11.2021484375
489.796875 9.7822265625
478.5 8.4296875
470.4375 7.84765625
438.53125 6.5400390625
413.953125 5.6669921875
369.390625 3.8583984375
353.390625 3.4716796875
317.34375 2.572265625
295.953125 2.205078125
242.53125 1.4697265625
211.59375 1.0185546875
194.078125 0.9541015625
172.859375 0.7353515625
147.984375 0.55078125
136.96875 0.4775390625
26.390625 0
0 0
Base Fuel Table
BMD0 - 1
0.930 0.922 0.820 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789
0.930 0.922 0.820 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789
0.930 0.922 0.820 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789 0.789
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000 1.000
1.000 1.102 1.102 1.000 1.000 1.102 1.102 1.000 1.000 1.102
Desired Pressure Drop Across Injectors
BMD0 - 1
0.002 45.000
0.000 45.000
0.000 45.000
0.000 45.000
0.000 45.000
0.000 45.000
0.000 45.000
Fuel Injector Pressure Drop
BMD0 - 1
50.000
Fuel Rail Pressure
BMD0 - 1
4.000 55.000 ---
0.000 55.000 ---
0.000 55.000 ---
0.000 55.000 ---
0.000 55.000 ---
0.000 55.000
Injector Pressure Drop Change with ACT
BMD0 - 1 BMD0
254.000 40.000 --- 62.000
170.000 40.000 --- 62.000
160.000 40.000 --- 55.000
130.000 40.000 --- 39.000
-256.000 40.000 --- 39.000
-256.000 40.000 --- 39.000
-256.000 40.000 --- 39.000
-256.000 40.000 --- 39.000
Blown3.8
11-14-2012, 06:40 PM
You need more pump. At least 2 gt40's with BAP's
martyo
11-14-2012, 08:05 PM
You need more pump. At least 2 gt40's with BAP's
Definitely out of pump. We have has great results with aero twice stealth pumps as well.
ls1_rulz
11-15-2012, 05:45 AM
hi
what do you think keep the stock return less fuel system or change to return style ?!@
thanks
Blown3.8
11-15-2012, 08:40 AM
Where it looks like you are going with this build. I would change to return style. It shouldn't cost much more to do a full return system than to keep adding to your returnless. The return is easy to tune too.
martyo
11-15-2012, 09:39 AM
Where it looks like you are going with this build. I would change to return style. It shouldn't cost much more to do a full return system than to keep adding to your returnless. The return is easy to tune too.
I concur.
...
Loco1234
11-15-2012, 10:19 AM
I run 24+psi on a Vortec Jt-Trim Super...use 60 psi Inj & 2 GT40 fuel pumps...on returnless system...but I addeda new SS hose fuel line from pump(s) to a new fuel rail... It works great so far beyond 625rwhp... Going to get anew Dyno tune soon... I Have also upgrade my air to water intercooler system bit...
ls1_rulz
11-15-2012, 06:30 PM
Hi again
today i down the tank and i'll install another fuel pump>>
anyone have the diagram wiring dual pump With Boost pump !?
loco1234 what the size of the hose !?
hotford
11-24-2012, 04:18 PM
Thats looks sweet Chris! For some reason I thought you had the dual pulley Thump?
31910
PM-1002-90-3001 Billet Aluminum Belt Tensioner with 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Extension Arm
Patent # US D596,824 S
Fits all Ford models with a smooth tensioner pulley & fitted with Saleen supercharger - see Ford models here
Our heavy duty belt tensioner comes with a 76mm Aluminum Billet Idler Pulley & S197 Saleen Gripper Plate complete with double bearing billet aluminum Idler pulley. The Gripper plate must be used in conjunction with the Thump RRR Racing Billet Tensioner P/N PM-1002-76 or PM-1002-90. This may be used on either 6 or 8 rib setups. It comes with a 76mm billet aluminum idler pulley.
Available in silver only. Read customer reviews
$555.00
http://www.thumpracing.com/index.htm#belt_tensioners
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Mine showed up yesterday.....whoo hooo...........
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