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blacksnake
02-27-2004, 11:07 PM
Okay, is there any consensus on the following drag strip setup?

Traction Control: ON or OFF? (I assume OFF)
Air Suspension: ON or OFF? (I assume it doesn't matter)
Rear Tire Pressure: Street pressure or a few pounds less? (Street tires not slicks)
Burnout: Street tires - never.
Neutral drop: Never
Torque braking at launch: 1800-2000 RPM?
Fuel level: 1/4 tank minimum?

Anything else? Please enlighten me.

SergntMac
02-28-2004, 03:58 AM
Okay, is there any consensus on the following drag strip setup?

Traction Control: ON or OFF? (I assume OFF)
Air Suspension: ON or OFF? (I assume it doesn't matter)
Rear Tire Pressure: Street pressure or a few pounds less? (Street tires not slicks)
Burnout: Street tires - never.
Neutral drop: Never
Torque braking at launch: 1800-2000 RPM?
Fuel level: 1/4 tank minimum?

Anything else? Please enlighten me.
I missed your sig on my first read, because I thought I had nothing to add to your list. However, I see you're driving Marauder S #19, speak up my man!

You're suprcharged, best to keep that gas tank more than 1/2 full. Gasoline weighs 8 pounds per gallon, don't sweat this added weight, just clean out the car. Moreover, 1800-2000 RPM launch sounds a bit stiff, you'll have to try some different approaches when launching a Marauder S. 25 PSI worked for me on the Pirelli tires.

This is why it's called "test and tune," and we'll have sevral hours of it in Marauderville II before the real racing starts.

Petrograde
02-28-2004, 08:02 AM
Burnout: Street tires - never.

really? I've never heard this. Why is that?

Tom

Smokie
02-28-2004, 08:23 AM
Okay, is there any consensus on the following drag strip setup?

Traction Control: ON or OFF? (I assume OFF)
Air Suspension: ON or OFF? (I assume it doesn't matter)
Rear Tire Pressure: Street pressure or a few pounds less? (Street tires not slicks)
Burnout: Street tires - never.
Neutral drop: Never
Torque braking at launch: 1800-2000 RPM?
Fuel level: 1/4 tank minimum?

Anything else? Please enlighten me.

You are S/C on stock tires. I would recommend a burnout without water box to get tires warmed up, nothing excessive. Tire pressure on rear about 25 PSI. I think brake torque at 1800-2000 you are going to light them up and just sit there or worse go sideways. I recommend holding at about 900-1000 rpm, that will preload your drivetrain for fast take off without sitting there spinning.
Apply Pam spray to rear fenders, removing rubber bits is a pain in the ass. Watch the people that run before you, usually one lane hooks better.....experiment....enjoy ....post results.:up:

blacksnake
02-28-2004, 11:32 AM
really? I've never heard this. Why is that?

Tom
Besides just wearing them out more quickly what I've been told is that since street tire rubber is formulated differently from a drag radial a prolonged burnout can actually cause a hard rubber glaze to form on the surface of the tire making hook up even more difficult. Other opinions out there?

blacksnake
02-28-2004, 11:37 AM
I missed your sig on my first read, because I thought I had nothing to add to your list. However, I see you're driving Marauder S #19, speak up my man!

You're suprcharged, best to keep that gas tank more than 1/2 full. Gasoline weighs 8 pounds per gallon, don't sweat this added weight, just clean out the car. Moreover, 1800-2000 RPM launch sounds a bit stiff, you'll have to try some different approaches when launching a Marauder S. 25 PSI worked for me on the Pirelli tires.

This is why it's called "test and tune," and we'll have sevral hours of it in Marauderville II before the real racing starts.
Thank you for the words of wisdom. I really look forward to hearing from you long-term 'S' owners and learning about what I've got. For instance, I would love to ride in one of the early ones with the triple-plate torque converter.

BTW, was KB's road course school at MMII cancelled due to lack of interest? Your e-mail did not elaborate. I am very disappointed.

BillyGman
02-28-2004, 11:45 AM
I think you're going to end up investing in a good set of drag radials since your car is S/Ced, cuz I'm sure anyone w/a S/C'd Marauder will tell you that you're gonna have a tough time hooking up coming off the line on street tires,and therefore your 60' times will suffer.

Smokie
02-28-2004, 11:53 AM
Besides just wearing them out more quickly what I've been told is that since street tire rubber is formulated differently from a drag radial a prolonged burnout can actually cause a hard rubber glaze to form on the surface of the tire making hook up even more difficult. Other opinions out there?
Hot rubber grips better than cold. No matter the composition.

blacksnake
02-28-2004, 11:57 AM
I think you're going to end up investing in a good set of drag radials since your car is S/Ced, cuz I'm sure anyone w/a S/C'd Marauder will tell you that you're gonna have a tough time hooking up coming off the line on street tires,and therefore your 60' times will suffer.
Your right...it's just a question of $$$$.

BillyGman
02-28-2004, 12:02 PM
from what I'm hearing, it sounds like the way to go is w/the Nitto 555's...but I'm sure that MAC can give you some insight on this. I believe that he has also experimented w/the Pirelli's. I think I'd go w/the Nitto drag radials instead, however I've never owned a set, nor is my MM S/C'd.

John F. Russo
02-28-2004, 07:18 PM
Blacksnake
"Veritas Vincit"

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I took four years of Latin many years ago.
Veritas is simple but "vincit", I' ll have to guess.

Does it mean, "Win with truth"? Where did you get the saying?

Welcome as another owner of a car of distinction by Kenny Brown.

What are the Dyno stats for your car? Boost?

______________________________ ___________________
2003 Dark Blue Pearl 300B (Canadian) w/Light Flint (reversed
traction control, mini spare, trunked 6 disc CD changer,
clock-in-the-radio, heated front seats, hood light)
-Born 12/10/02; converted new then used 2/28/03
-16,000 miles
-18.5 mpg at a steady speed of 80 mph
-Stock transmission (upgraded with Performance Automatic
clutches and band after stock tranny failed in 8,800 miles)
-Wheel locks (Ford)
-Badgeless front grille by “Zack”
-Zaino waxing; RainX
Kenny Brown: 6th “Signature Series” conversion (450 hp) Born
3/28/03 (first drove it)
-Vortech supercharger (5 to 9 psig boost)
-377 RWTQ
-4.10 gears
-Baer front brakes 14 in. two piston, vented rotors
-MMX Driveshaft
-Precision, triple disc, P/N469018-3 Precision, triple disc, P/N469018-3
-Ford Racing Stud and Girdle
-Pirelli P-Zero Asimmetrico (front 255/45ZR18 99Y; rear
255/50ZR18 102Y)
-Dead pedal
-FordChip
-3/4 of a coil from each front stock spring removed to produce
the “same” effect as an Eibach spring
-Ground clearance: 5 in.
______________________________ ___________________________
1961 Ford Galaxie, 2 dr. Club Victoria, 390CID, 375hp, 4 barrel (gone)

stumpy
02-28-2004, 09:06 PM
I do this when I run on street tires and I can get way down there, sometimes within a couple tenths of my lowest on DRs. It all depends on how much torque you have, but if you are disciplined you can do this very effectively.

BillyGman
02-28-2004, 09:19 PM
I agree w/Stumpy on that, because when I get into an occasional traffic light race on the street, that's exactly what I have to do w/my car. If I hammer down the gas pedal all at once, then I'll just sit there and spin. I have to use about half-pedal for about 1 1/2 of a car length, and then go full throttle.

Ofcourse w/a S/C'd Marauder running on the track w/street tires, that's all you can do and hope for the best. Otherwise,you'll have to spend the $$ for some good drag radials. If you spent the extra $$ for a S/C'd Marauder, then why not several hundred more for some good track rubber?

blacksnake
02-28-2004, 09:42 PM
Blacksnake
"Veritas Vincit"

Comment
I took four years of Latin many years ago.
Veritas is simple but "vincit", I' ll have to guess.

Does it mean, "Win with truth"? Where did you get the saying?

Welcome as another owner of a car of distinction by Kenny Brown.

What are the Dyno stats for your car? Boost?

Your latin is still sharp. 'Veritas Vincit' is usually interpreted as 'Truth Conquers' or 'Truth Prevails'. My last name is Keith, a very old Scottish clan. Here is the familty crest.
http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/185/185372/pages/461130/badge2(3).jpg
Will you be at MMII? I am very interested in meeting more KB owners and learning more about the car.

John F. Russo
03-02-2004, 09:00 AM
Your latin is still sharp. 'Veritas Vincit' is usually interpreted as 'Truth Conquers' or 'Truth Prevails'. My last name is Keith, a very old Scottish clan. Here is the familty crest.
http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/185/185372/pages/461130/badge2(3).jpg
Will you be at MMII? I am very interested in meeting more KB owners and learning more about the car.


I would have liked to go, but business has been very slow for the past two years. As president, I have to stay at the helm at this important time.

Haggis
03-02-2004, 09:23 AM
My last name is Keith, a very old Scottish clan. Here is the familty crest.
http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/185/185372/pages/461130/badge2(3).jpg
Will you be at MMII? I am very interested in meeting more KB owners and learning more about the car.

Don't forget to bring your Kilt. See you at Indy.