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Lightningquick
01-21-2013, 03:36 PM
Im in the development stages for a new garage behind my existing shop ( for my havc equipment ) and was wondering for you guys that store your MM indoors how big is your garage? I was thinking at first of a 18x28 or 18x36 but now im thinking I want to keep my MM indoors ( when I get it ) along with the lightning. Im currently keeping the L in my hvac shop and thats the main reason for the new garage, but if im getting the MM I wont want it out in the weather either. I checked on a 22x36 with two 10x8 garage doors this afternoon and its going to run about 2k more than the smaller ones and thats just the structure NO concrete additional figured in that 2k. So im guessing another 500 to 1000 for the concrete. What size you guys have? How much room to spare with the cars in there?

Vortex
01-21-2013, 03:39 PM
My garage is 19.6 deep and I have to tap the sheetrock with the front bumper of my quadcab to be able to close the doors behind it. I would love to have a garage at least 25 feet deep so I could have a workbench but it aint gonna happen now.

TFB
01-21-2013, 03:49 PM
32'W x 40'D and it's to damn small... Currently the Marauder, '69 Fairlane Cobra and a '88 T-Bird are hangin' out in there, if I didn't have so much other stuff I could get at least two more in there...

MOTOWN
01-21-2013, 04:05 PM
22' x 21' wayyyyy too small!

bill64
01-21-2013, 04:14 PM
mine is 32'w by 28' deep. its a decent size garage for three big cars and some work space in front of them as well.

03mmmonroe
01-21-2013, 04:37 PM
Im in the development stages for a new garage behind my existing shop ( for my havc equipment ) and was wondering for you guys that store your MM indoors how big is your garage? I was thinking at first of a 18x28 or 18x36 but now im thinking I want to keep my MM indoors ( when I get it ) along with the lightning. Im currently keeping the L in my hvac shop and thats the main reason for the new garage, but if im getting the MM I wont want it out in the weather either. I checked on a 22x36 with two 10x8 garage doors this afternoon and its going to run about 2k more than the smaller ones and thats just the structure NO concrete additional figured in that 2k. So im guessing another 500 to 1000 for the concrete. What size you guys have? How much room to spare with the cars in there?

25 X 40 X 13 US steel Building.

J-MAN
01-21-2013, 04:41 PM
The climate controlled portion or all together?

justbob
01-21-2013, 04:42 PM
21x21 easily fits the Marauder, and the minivan. Plus more 😉

Plus I built an attached shed/addition to the back side with a 36" door between the two. I needed to get my tools out of the garage so I could park.. That one is 10' deep x 20' wide.

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8UWITH6
01-21-2013, 05:16 PM
Just add a lift :)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/598577_4927211178613_262181544 _n.jpg

Shaijack
01-21-2013, 05:25 PM
I am not saying but the new garage might be 40x60 or 80. I love your lifts. I want one or two in the new garage.

Curless
01-21-2013, 05:27 PM
Ours is 26 X 36... a friend told me to go the extra width over the typical 24' it makes a big difference. If I could have (septic is in the way) I would have gone longer. Two full size cars will not fit nose to tail or trucks and cars. We have 5 in there right now.

jerrym3
01-21-2013, 06:25 PM
You guys have unbelievable garages. I can only wish.

If I put a lift in my garage, if I were to raise the car, the car would come up into the master bedroom.

My town would never let me build a big garage (it would never meet property line clearances), and I'm already approaching $9,000 per year in local property taxes. Add in a big garage and watch the taxes go nuts.

And, in my area, my town's taxes are relatively low due to the amount of large shopping malls, stores, etc in the town. Neighboring town's tax rates are higher.

(In a neighboring town, they re-appraised my friend's house, and said his 16 X 16 outdoor patio is now considered "living space".)

martyo
01-21-2013, 06:36 PM
40 x 50 and it is too small!

http://legalknevil.com/gallery3/var/albums/My-Garage/Shop_at_Night.jpg?m=1306959646

Granddaddy Marq
01-21-2013, 07:08 PM
It's been my experience, in all my years of building thing, "There's No Such Thing As BIG ENOUGH!" Go big and leave room to build on.

jimlam56
01-21-2013, 07:37 PM
I'm about to build a 24 by 36 by 12 pole barn style garage.
I'd make it bigger but am constricted by a Pecan tree and a drain field.

Bigdogjim
01-21-2013, 07:43 PM
How about not big enough.

Nice garage Marty!

Russ I have been in your garage (MV-VIII) and it is really a great setup. (Thanks again!)

Blk04MM
01-21-2013, 11:40 PM
40 x 50 and it is too small!

http://legalknevil.com/gallery3/var/albums/My-Garage/Shop_at_Night.jpg?m=1306959646

Heaven on earth ^^^^

martyo
01-22-2013, 06:20 AM
Heaven on earth ^^^^

That represents me and my entire life (except my wife --- in case she is reading this!!! :flamer:)

Curless
01-22-2013, 07:08 AM
I'm about to build a 24 by 36 by 12 pole barn style garage.
I'd make it bigger but am constricted by a Pecan tree and a drain field.

If you can squeeze the 26 in there you'll be very happy...I promise!

ROB502
01-22-2013, 07:53 AM
One 30x30,,two double carports and two out buildings

Motorhead350
01-22-2013, 08:25 AM
What garage? The street has more space than all of you. Muhahaha

Ozark Marauder
01-22-2013, 08:30 AM
I'm about to build a 24 by 36 by 12 pole barn style garage.
I'd make it bigger but am constricted by a Pecan tree and a drain field.


If you can squeeze the 26 in there you'll be very happy...I promise!

When I had a garage, it was the 24 by 36 by 12 pole barn style garage. It worked well, but I agree, that any extra width 26, 28 or 30, would be well worth it.

OZ

TFB
01-22-2013, 09:27 AM
The problem with adding just a couple feet additional is it will cost almost as much as adding 4ft... With 2ft you'll be cutting down 4'x8' to gain the extra, just easier to slap the complete sheet in place...

Curless
01-22-2013, 09:45 AM
The problem with adding just a couple feet additional is it will cost almost as much as adding 4ft... With 2ft you'll be cutting down 4'x8' to gain the extra, just easier to slap the complete sheet in place...

I had no choice, I was out of room with the septic being there...moving it was a hole other mess!

Davesvt2000
01-22-2013, 05:30 PM
My garage at my house is 4000 sq ft, 40 by 100, with two 9 x 9 doors in front and one 8 x 8 door down the side.

My garage for my work is 3000 sq ft, 50 x 60, with two 10 x 12 doors, and one 12 x 12 door.

Curless
01-22-2013, 05:49 PM
My garage at my house is 4000 sq ft, 40 by 100, with two 9 x 9 doors in front and one 8 x 8 door down the side.

My garage for my work is 3000 sq ft, 50 x 60, with two 10 x 12 doors, and one 12 x 12 door.


Dayum!!!!!!! Pics? :bows:

03mmmonroe
01-22-2013, 06:15 PM
I was happy to help when you were hear. Russ

Davesvt2000
01-22-2013, 06:22 PM
Dayum!!!!!!! Pics? :bows:

I don't have a pic of the one at my house. It's more of an old workshop that came with the property, I saw the potential in it and was able to save it rather than tear it down. I can fit 16 vehicles in it during the winter.

Here is a pic of my garage at work:

jimlam56
01-22-2013, 09:11 PM
The problem with adding just a couple feet additional is it will cost almost as much as adding 4ft... With 2ft you'll be cutting down 4'x8' to gain the extra, just easier to slap the complete sheet in place...
Yes, and since I am dealing with metal trusses, the next increment up would be 36 feet wide, not an option for the space I have.
The pole barn will cost about $4500, which I think is a pretty good deal.

Gryphonzus
01-22-2013, 09:27 PM
I have a two car attached garage, a two and a half car detached garage across from the attached garage. I just built a 30X60X16 steel garage behind the house with a two post lift. I can easily fit five cars and two motorcycles in it. I have been using the lift quite a bit and am glad I have it. I did the camber adjustment modification using it.

martyo
01-23-2013, 05:00 AM
I have a two car attached garage, a two and a half car detached garage across from the attached garage. I just built a 30X60X16 steel garage behind the house with a two post lift. I can easily fit five cars and two motorcycles in it. I have been using the lift quite a bit and am glad I have it. I did the camber adjustment modification using it.

This makes me happy!!!! :banana2:

martyo
01-23-2013, 05:00 AM
My garage at my house is 4000 sq ft, 40 by 100, with two 9 x 9 doors in front and one 8 x 8 door down the side.

My garage for my work is 3000 sq ft, 50 x 60, with two 10 x 12 doors, and one 12 x 12 door.

Post pictures!

I love shop porn!!!!!!

justbob
01-23-2013, 05:05 AM
This makes me happy!!!! :banana2:

Like "uncomfortable" happy or just happy? :eek:


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bigcowl-imp
01-23-2013, 05:07 AM
Post pictures!

I love shop porn!!!!!!


http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/96impalashiftercable-1.jpg

martyo
01-23-2013, 05:32 AM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/bigcowl-imp/96impalashiftercable-1.jpg

I approve!!!! :beer:

martyo
01-23-2013, 05:34 AM
Like "uncomfortable" happy or just happy? :eek:

Can you explain the difference? :help:


:P

Davesvt2000
01-23-2013, 06:22 AM
Post pictures!

I love shop porn!!!!!!

Look back one page, post 28.. :beer:

martyo
01-23-2013, 12:10 PM
Look back one page, post 28.. :beer:

I read that but wanted to see the shop anyway! Snap a picture or two!!!!

boatmangc
01-23-2013, 12:19 PM
Working on permits for a 30 X 50 Steelmaster with a 24' roof

martyo
01-23-2013, 12:33 PM
Working on permits for a 30 X 50 Steelmaster with a 24' roof

Are you doing a mezannine or a loft in there?

boatmangc
01-23-2013, 01:30 PM
Are you doing a mezannine or a loft in there?

Lift on one end
Loft in other
Doors will all be 10' high


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Davesvt2000
01-23-2013, 02:12 PM
I read that but wanted to see the shop anyway! Snap a picture or two!!!!


the right side of the building

the work bench

martyo
01-23-2013, 02:14 PM
the right side of the building

the work bench

Tidy!!! I like it. Mine's a mess!

Spectragod
01-23-2013, 06:36 PM
Tidy!!! I like it. Mine's a mess!

Yes it is, last time I was there, I almost tripped over that pile of gold bars you had in there.:D

Shaijack
01-23-2013, 06:52 PM
Darren I did trip on one and he told me to keep it because of the smudge my shoe made.

martyo
01-23-2013, 07:26 PM
Yes it is, last time I was there, I almost tripped over that pile of gold bars you had in there.:D


Darren I did trip on one and he told me to keep it because of the smudge my shoe made.

You guys got jokes!

Davesvt2000
01-23-2013, 08:44 PM
Tidy!!! I like it. Mine's a mess!

Notice the date on the pic, that was shortly after I moved in. It's a lot more packed now !! LOL

martyo
01-24-2013, 06:20 AM
Notice the date on the pic, that was shortly after I moved in. It's a lot more packed now !! LOL

I know that feeling!

I hardly recognize my shop when I look at the "early days" pictures!

The good news is Barry and Darren offered to come clean out my shop. Oh wait......

Davesvt2000
01-24-2013, 06:39 AM
I know that feeling!

I hardly recognize my shop when I look at the "early days" pictures!

The good news is Barry and Darren offered to come clean out my shop. Oh wait......


LOL exactly..

On a side note, my kid brother is down your way in Norcross. Been there for almost 20 years. Hates the cold here in Mass. and comes home about 3 times a year to visit.

RacerX
01-24-2013, 06:49 AM
0' x 0' My engine swaps are hardcore. Worst part is planning the weather and bird poop. ;)

martyo
01-24-2013, 07:06 AM
LOL exactly..

On a side note, my kid brother is down your way in Norcross. Been there for almost 20 years. Hates the cold here in Mass. and comes home about 3 times a year to visit.

That's why I left NY!!!!

Gryphonzus
01-24-2013, 12:44 PM
Here are some pictures.

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MOTOWN
01-24-2013, 12:55 PM
Sweet! That's awesome space you have there! Very nice pole barn^^^^^

martyo
01-24-2013, 01:20 PM
Here are some pictures.

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Man it came out great!!!!!

Now you need to clutter it up some!!!!! :D

Gryphonzus
01-24-2013, 01:34 PM
I am working on it Marty. I am planning on building a workbench in front of the lift. If I can do it it will be 19 foot long.:help:

martyo
01-24-2013, 01:42 PM
I am working on it Marty. I am planning on building a workbench in front of the lift. If I can do it it will be 19 foot long.:help:

I would have 21 feet of clutter on that 19 foot bench!

Gryphonzus
01-24-2013, 02:05 PM
Then I guess you should see my other work bench! Not much work going on there! I am sure some of that clutter will see its way to the new bench.

martyo
01-24-2013, 02:08 PM
Then I guess you should see my other work bench! Not much work going on there! I am sure some of that clutter will see its way to the new bench.

A neat work bench is teh sign of a sick mind.

justbob
01-24-2013, 04:04 PM
I would have 21 feet of clutter on that 19 foot bench!

I just tore out my 21' work bench and replaced it with 4' for that very reason!


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martyo
01-24-2013, 04:13 PM
I just tore out my 21' work bench and replaced it with 4' for that very reason!


Flat surfaces are like magnets.

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 09:17 AM
Just came across this thread. Back from the dead.

My shop building is around 2000sf with 1600sf inclosed
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/svtrichie/Home%202/driveup.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/svtrichie/media/Home%202/driveup.jpg.html)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/svtrichie/Garage/photo3.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/svtrichie/media/Garage/photo3.jpg.html)

Here is the mess now, need to get some better pics.

RubberCtyRauder
06-25-2014, 09:26 AM
Just came across this thread. Back from the dead.

My shop building is around 2000sf with 1600sf inclosed
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/svtrichie/Home%202/driveup.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/svtrichie/media/Home%202/driveup.jpg.html)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff265/svtrichie/Garage/photo3.jpg (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/svtrichie/media/Garage/photo3.jpg.html)

Here is the mess now, need to get some better pics.

Nice! Your garage is bigger than my house:depress:

Clearly I chose the wrong career path:shake:

lji372
06-25-2014, 09:35 AM
Nice! Your garage is bigger than my house:depress:

Clearly I chose the wrong career path:shake:

you have a career :confused:

RubberCtyRauder
06-25-2014, 09:42 AM
you have a career :confused:

What else would you call it? Sure I punch a timeclock, but I don't consider it just a job. I chose to do it, apprentice it, and follow what my dad's dad did. I take any opportunity I can get to learn more, technology, tricks of the trade.

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 09:51 AM
I sell tires

JBeezy
06-25-2014, 09:56 AM
My detached garage is a 1200 Sq ft. Not sure about my attached 2 car garage



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martyo
06-25-2014, 10:54 AM
Richie, what are the deets on the wagon?

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 11:02 AM
What are u asking

martyo
06-25-2014, 11:06 AM
What are u asking

deets = details

Sorry I am just a kid and sometimes I talk like one too.

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 11:22 AM
Apart on jack stands. Tubular front end coilovers fornt/rear 4 wheel disc 302 vortech t56

martyo
06-25-2014, 11:27 AM
Apart on jack stands. Tubular front end coilovers fornt/rear 4 wheel disc 302 vortech t56

I think you should lend it to me for next year's Hot Rod Power Tour.

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 11:49 AM
That is a reason why I am putting it together. Better yet I will ship u all the crap you put it together and tune it you can drive the power tour. It is just a shell now

martyo
06-25-2014, 11:53 AM
That is a reason why I am putting it together. Better yet I will ship u all the crap you put it together and tune it you can drive the power tour. It is just a shell now

Do you want me to call the truck for shipping??

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 11:55 AM
thats funny, if all of it is on your dime(you can be my sponser)!! Just need to find the time. Also will have full Bassani exhaust/longtubes and some other stuff. Have to get some better pics up.

martyo
06-25-2014, 11:58 AM
thats funny, if all of it is on your dime(you can be my sponser)!! Just need to find the time. Also will have full Bassani exhaust/longtubes and some other stuff. Have to get some better pics up.

We could knock that car out in 6 - 8 Mondays (our day off).

I would sponsor you but all of my sponsor dollars are committed to my own projects. :D

svtrichie
06-25-2014, 12:29 PM
Not hard at all, doing it by myself an hour or two at a time. Two kids under 4yrs old keep me busy. And it is 110 degrees here now, so drinking beer is the only thing getting done. Any word on the route for power tour 2015. I might try and do it with my Dad and my 4yr old.

MarauderCyclone
06-26-2014, 12:40 AM
I have a three car garage with a bench area in the back of the 1st bay. I have a second story for storage of all the things you accumulate while doing resto-modifications.

Whomever coined the phrase "Size Matters" definately knew what they were saying in regards to garage space. I feel pretty blessed to have what I do , but lifes legalities always can throw you a curve. My setback on garage width was hampered by zoning regulations. My house had a den added to it before the garage was planned and built. Rules of seperation of two independent stuctures came into play. I would have liked to have had 5 feet of clearance with any cars doors fully open , instead I had to settle for 3 feet on either side with the doors wide open. Depth was also a semi-comprimised. because of the same zoning restrictions.

My biggest regret if you want to call it that? was ceiling height. My floor level height is only 9'6" , so this precludes any notion of putting a lift in the garage.

One Blessing did take place. I have nothing but automotive stuff stored in the garage, thanks in part to having a concrete pad away from the garage and the house already in place , where at one time a Tin Utlitity building once sat. I took advantage of that pad and built a utility building from scratch that was 12'x16' with a 9 Foot ceiling. This building is wired so if I need to tinker with the lawn tractor , weedeater or what ever , I don't have to carry it to the garage to work on it. All my lawn and garden stuff has it's place there.

My favorite thing about the garage is it's finished walls and ceilings ..and hand made cabinets on the walls above car door opeing height. Everything not in use has a place to be , Clutter Free is the way to go.

I have ample lighting in the garage...cannot stress this strongly enough. My first car project was a 1988 Crown Vic Police Package a number of years back. The garage was un-finished at that time in regards to interior walls and overly adequate lighting. Lack of proper lighting and some bounce back effect of another finished surface was equivalent to working in the bottom of a well with a flash light in hindsight. I cooled my heels on doing any other car projects until the infrastructure , minus a lift was rectified.

I know that we live in a world based on immediate gratification , but some of these things have taken years to do. I was not going into debt for this , it's all been pay as you go , do it yourself to avoid paying a contractor and enlist the help of a knowledgable electrician so the whole shabang passes building code inspections and doesn't end up a pile of ashes over being cheap or worse , Stupid.

Lastly...Insure your investment. Make damn sure your home owners covers the additions you make to your property. Insure your tools and automobilia that you have too. The annual costs are nothing compared to what some unforeseen event or tragic weather issue can cost you. Anything worth owning and cheerishing is worth insuring.

sflrainmaker01
06-26-2014, 07:52 AM
Not hard at all, doing it by myself an hour or two at a time. Two kids under 4yrs old keep me busy. And it is 110 degrees here now, so drinking beer is the only thing getting done. Any word on the route for power tour 2015. I might try and do it with my Dad and my 4yr old.

I did that more than a few years ago. I added a 28x36 detached garage by myself! 3 little kids and a more than full time job! It took a little over a year. It was a real bummer in the winter. But it was really awesome when done and it was great to (literally) do the whole thing by myself! The only thing I contracted out was the roof shingles, garage door and pouring and finishing the slab. All the design, tree clearing, foundation, block work, driveway, walls, trusses, roof plywood, electric & siding was done by me.
Now, I have a mere 24x26 garage attached to the house here in Florida. However, I do have a 24,000lb boat lift behind the house which is kinda like a garage (for my boat). :P
Good luck! Sounds like a fun project and you will be happy when done! Then you will have extra room for those father/son (or daughter) car projects! :up:

svtrichie
06-26-2014, 09:37 AM
I have two boys and both into cars. My oldest is always in my fairmont playing inside when I am in the garage. He told my wife yesterday that he is going to drive daddy's black mustang when he gets older!!

martyo
06-26-2014, 10:11 AM
I have two boys and both into cars. My oldest is always in my fairmont playing inside when I am in the garage. He told my wife yesterday that he is going to drive daddy's black mustang when he gets older!!

Did he say anything about sending the Fairmont east???? :D

sflrainmaker01
06-26-2014, 10:34 AM
I have two boys and both into cars. My oldest is always in my fairmont playing inside when I am in the garage. He told my wife yesterday that he is going to drive daddy's black mustang when he gets older!!

Mine boys said the same thing, lol! Except, I bought them a white 92 4cyl Fox convertible (no V8, you know how 16yr old boys get rated on insurance :rolleyes:). We've had some fun dressing it up like a special edition vert (it's white on white). :cool: They both have driven the Marauder and love it. However, they really want to drive the 86 GT, but I am not about to teach them how to drive a stick shift with that car!:eek:

svtrichie
06-26-2014, 10:44 AM
It will be hard to not let them have a sports car for their first car. Mine was a 89 Mustang GT 5spd. My dad gave me a loan with interest and I paid the insurance. I remember being 16 very well, it was 1994, I had my mustang and my dad bought him a new Z28 and mom an Impala SS for christmas. And I was able to drive them all.

sflrainmaker01
06-26-2014, 11:33 AM
It will be hard to not let them have a sports car for their first car. Mine was a 89 Mustang GT 5spd. My dad gave me a loan with interest and I paid the insurance. I remember being 16 very well, it was 1994, I had my mustang and my dad bought him a new Z28 and mom an Impala SS for christmas. And I was able to drive them all.

That's a nice selection! But, wait until you see the insurance ratings for teenage boys! :eek: We have 2 teens and a college student now on the insurance. Cheaper the better... Can you say choking off the Eaton Swap! :rolleyes::(

massacre
06-26-2014, 02:30 PM
My garage is way too small. I can barely fit the Edge, the Mustang, and my mini-bike. I'm exaggerating a little but not much. My Merc won't even fit in it lengthwise lmao and the Exploder stays outside.

We have a couple acres of land so plenty of land to build more garages, we have at least 3 more bays planned, I'm trying to double up and try and do 6 bays (3 bays, 2 deep) lol. I also want some living space up above and a 200 amp electrical service and plumbing/drainage etc.

Davesvt2000
06-26-2014, 04:10 PM
The garage at my house is 4000 square feet, 40 x 100, with two 9x9 doors and one 8x8 door.

The garage for my work is 3000 square feet, 50 x 60, with two 10x12 doors and one 12x12 door.

joe mosely
07-12-2014, 10:17 PM
My shop at home is 24x30 (all my wife would allow as she had plans for a garden when we bought the place). I put wood stakes in to show her the footprint before I built it, and after she said ok I bumped them out a couple feet in every direction. She still thinks its 20x26.

It houses my '30 Ford sedan, my dirty homemade hardtail, my gun shop and all the other stuff I've accumulated in the 10 yrs we've lived here. My old 4Runner is no longer an issue as I sold it on Thursday (I'm gonna regret that in a couple days or so) but its busting at the seams.

I recently signed a lease on a new yard, office, and shop for work so soon I'll have a 50x80 haven for my toys. Its a work in progress, the landlord is telling me the electrical and mechanical will be done by fall. I really hope so, my home shop isn't really big enough to house much. My plan is to move all the car/bike related stuff to the new joint and keep the home shop strictly for gunsmithing.

I'm getting tired of stepping over piles of stuff to get across my shop, and the Marauder needs a roof over its head for the winter. It was parked outside all last winter and I feel shame for that as it was garage kept since new before I bought it.

maineiac
07-13-2014, 12:09 AM
What garage?

bigcowl-imp
07-13-2014, 03:05 AM
That wagon would be sweet with a LS3 or LS7 or LS9...

Spectragod
07-13-2014, 01:34 PM
Park my junk outside and cover it with a blue tarp and bungee cords....

lji372
07-13-2014, 01:49 PM
That wagon would be sweet with a LS3 or LS7 or LS9...

And black marauder bumper covers

Spectragod
07-13-2014, 04:09 PM
And black marauder bumper covers

I hear they are all the rage in the "D".....

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lji372
07-13-2014, 04:10 PM
I hear they are all the rage in the "D".....

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Lmmfao!!

:banana2::banana2: